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By *orkshire bi OP   Man
over a year ago

elland

I'm sat on a sit and there's a car parked up with some kids in it. Obviously here to spoil any fun. Why do they do it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

God forbid anyone parking in a parking spot with kids how very dare they!!

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London


" I'm sat on a sit and there's a car parked up with some kids in it. Obviously here to spoil any fun. Why do they do it? "

Do you mean that the general public aren't allowed on these sites normally? I thought it was the other way around .... they have more right to be there than the diggers ...

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I'm sat on a sit and there's a car parked up with some kids in it. Obviously here to spoil any fun. Why do they do it? "

For them, it's fun.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

maybe they don't know..?

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!

Kid's?!

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By *k197Man
over a year ago

wymondham

Yes I have noticed that in this area and that then attracts the police.

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By *orkshire bi OP   Man
over a year ago

elland

As in a gang of teenagers oh yeah they'll know what goes on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you are their for a bit of the other, they are probably their for there bit of 'fun' lol

G x

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By *piritsonfabCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

I'd have thought they'd just as much right to be there as you at the moment.....?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Can't you go some place else?

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By *orkshire bi OP   Man
over a year ago

elland

Am of home

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sat on a sit and there's a car parked up with some kids in it. Obviously here to spoil any fun. Why do they do it? "

Wow.

Just wow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And the issue is? Public place = public people being there

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By *MaleMan
over a year ago


"I'm sat on a sit and there's a car parked up with some kids in it. Obviously here to spoil any fun. Why do they do it? "

Car in a car park with kids in. You've concluded it's there to spoil swingers/doggers fun lol.

Fab or swinging/dogging aint the be all, end all for all. They might not be awre swingers, doggers use it. It's always possible it's just a regular family using a car park .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

knock on the ca window and tell em you know their parents.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How very dare they. Have sex indoors massive inconvienece for you im sure

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By *o-jCouple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

I think if we use the phrase teenagers instead of kids . Then we can discuss the fact that teenagers are arseholes who enjoy spoiling things for others .

Thats what teenagers do .

Jo x

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Doggers don't own the car park. It's not like a whistle blows at 2100 and it is then doggers only.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sat on a sit and there's a car parked up with some kids in it. Obviously here to spoil any fun. Why do they do it? "

They maybe thinking the self same thing about you .....

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

its almost as if you shouldnt fuck in public places

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe

** looks in and straight back out.........

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Have they flashed their lights yet to invite you over? Maybe they don't know dogging etiquette, go and flash your willy and show them the ropes

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By *endrix30Man
over a year ago

dudley


"knock on the ca window and tell em you know their parents..... "
Lol. I like it.

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By *adyboy-DaddyCouple
over a year ago

Andover


"I'm sat on a sit and there's a car parked up with some kids in it. Obviously here to spoil any fun. Why do they do it? "

Wassup, they not letting you play with heir ball.

FFS, your in a public place and they as much right, some might say more) than you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hahaha this made me chuckle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dog walkers, joggers and those out for an evening stroll should also be shot on site after 8pm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lol,,thats hilarious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Kid's?!"

There sort of miniature adults but full of snot and whine a lot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They must be over 18 if they are in a car so just as much right as you to be there surely!!

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By *o-jCouple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts


"They must be over 18 if they are in a car so just as much right as you to be there surely!!"

The driver has to be 17 , the age of the passengers can be of any age .

Jo x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe you could ask the local council to put signs up saying 'people fuck here after 9pm' or something? That way your activities in public places won't be rudely interrupted by.... erm.... the public?!?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its unusual for young goats to be out this late

Are they wearing bells......

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By *endrix30Man
over a year ago

dudley


"I'm sat on a sit and there's a car parked up with some kids in it. Obviously here to spoil any fun. Why do they do it?

Wassup, they not letting you play with heir ball.

FFS, your in a public place and they as much right, some might say more) than you. "
That depends on what the kids are up to, if they are boy racers deliberately being a nuisance to others then they shouldn't be there, if they are youngsters minding their own business and not bothering anybody then they have every right to be there as do doggers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sat on a sit and there's a car parked up with some kids in it. Obviously here to spoil any fun. Why do they do it?

Wassup, they not letting you play with heir ball.

FFS, your in a public place and they as much right, some might say more) than you. That depends on what the kids are up to, if they are boy racers deliberately being a nuisance to others then they shouldn't be there, if they are youngsters minding their own business and not bothering anybody then they have every right to be there as do doggers."

Doggers don't have a 'right' to be there though, that's what's so funny about this thread. Once they're engaging in sexual activity in a public place they're breaking the law which is at least on par with 'deliberately causing a nuisance'

Oh shucks, now I've gone and made myself look like a prude

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn't that what teenagers do? They live with parents so go somewhere in a car for some alone time. I know I used to do that as a teenager. They may of course have heard it's a dogging spot and wanted to see what goes on there.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"I'm sat on a sit and there's a car parked up with some kids in it. Obviously here to spoil any fun. Why do they do it? "

McDonalds car park rethink required

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sat on a sit and there's a car parked up with some kids in it. Obviously here to spoil any fun. Why do they do it?

Wassup, they not letting you play with heir ball.

FFS, your in a public place and they as much right, some might say more) than you. That depends on what the kids are up to, if they are boy racers deliberately being a nuisance to others then they shouldn't be there, if they are youngsters minding their own business and not bothering anybody then they have every right to be there as do doggers.

Doggers don't have a 'right' to be there though, that's what's so funny about this thread. Once they're engaging in sexual activity in a public place they're breaking the law which is at least on par with 'deliberately causing a nuisance'

Oh shucks, now I've gone and made myself look like a prude "

Toyally agree

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By *endrix30Man
over a year ago

dudley

Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"its almost as if you shouldnt fuck in public places "

I love the implication that it was a council provided dogging site that happened to have a public car park.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone. "

Dogging is against the law is it not? So no they dont have any right to be there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

Dogging is against the law is it not? So no they dont have any right to be there"

People that are dogger have a right to be there. They just don't have the right to... dog

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

I know what you meant OP....normally when a car is full of youngsters are parked in dogging sites it isn't normally because they want to go dogging, more to gawp or to become a nuisance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know what you meant OP....normally when a car is full of youngsters are parked in dogging sites it isn't normally because they want to go dogging, more to gawp or to become a nuisance"

Do you think there are other members of the public who thinks doggers are a nuisance?

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"I know what you meant OP....normally when a car is full of youngsters are parked in dogging sites it isn't normally because they want to go dogging, more to gawp or to become a nuisance

Do you think there are other members of the public who thinks doggers are a nuisance? "

Yes, lots of people do.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

Dogging is against the law is it not? So no they dont have any right to be there"

Is it really?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

Dogging is against the law is it not? So no they dont have any right to be there

Is it really?"

I wouldnt know hence why i put ?? Im not into it in any way so havent looked up the law im just guessing a sex act in a public place is against the law

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By *endrix30Man
over a year ago

dudley

Yes doggers do have a right to be there, they are doing nothing wrong. Its the boy racers and their antics who have no right to be there.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

Are you sure it's not the doggers ruining it for the kids?

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Yes doggers do have a right to be there, they are doing nothing wrong. Its the boy racers and their antics who have no right to be there. "

Id say they all have a right to be there. It's a public place...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes doggers do have a right to be there, they are doing nothing wrong. Its the boy racers and their antics who have no right to be there. "

Presumably you have a letter from the council / police confirming your interpretation?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fucing doggers. We just want a place to park up out of town to have a mess about in our motors that we've been tinkering with all week and there's some dude in the shadows with his cock out!

Works both ways.

Sure, enjoy dogging but accept that it's public space.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

Dogging is against the law is it not? So no they dont have any right to be there

Is it really?

I wouldnt know hence why i put ?? Im not into it in any way so havent looked up the law im just guessing a sex act in a public place is against the law"

You are indeed correct, you are guessing.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Fucing doggers. We just want a place to park up out of town to have a mess about in our motors that we've been tinkering with all week and there's some dude in the shadows with his cock out!

Works both ways.

Sure, enjoy dogging but accept that it's public space. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe they are sat there waiting for you to leave so they can "Hot box"?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fucing doggers. We just want a place to park up out of town to have a mess about in our motors that we've been tinkering with all week and there's some dude in the shadows with his cock out!

Works both ways.

Sure, enjoy dogging but accept that it's public space. "

Or.... here's a radical idea... go have sex in a bed / swinging club / other location with washing facilities near by

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

Dogging is against the law is it not? So no they dont have any right to be there

Is it really?

I wouldnt know hence why i put ?? Im not into it in any way so havent looked up the law im just guessing a sex act in a public place is against the law

You are indeed correct, you are guessing."

So a sex act in public is not against the law?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fucing doggers. We just want a place to park up out of town to have a mess about in our motors that we've been tinkering with all week and there's some dude in the shadows with his cock out!

Works both ways.

Sure, enjoy dogging but accept that it's public space.

Or.... here's a radical idea... go have sex in a bed / swinging club / other location with washing facilities near by "

why? If you enjoy dogging then go dogging.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

Dogging is against the law is it not? So no they dont have any right to be there

Is it really?

I wouldnt know hence why i put ?? Im not into it in any way so havent looked up the law im just guessing a sex act in a public place is against the law

You are indeed correct, you are guessing.

So a sex act in public is not against the law?"

Look it up

You decide

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/contents

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fucing doggers. We just want a place to park up out of town to have a mess about in our motors that we've been tinkering with all week and there's some dude in the shadows with his cock out!

Works both ways.

Sure, enjoy dogging but accept that it's public space.

Or.... here's a radical idea... go have sex in a bed / swinging club / other location with washing facilities near by

why? If you enjoy dogging then go dogging. "

Hence the 'or' - if you enjoy dogging accept it's a public space (what you said)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

Dogging is against the law is it not? So no they dont have any right to be there

Is it really?

I wouldnt know hence why i put ?? Im not into it in any way so havent looked up the law im just guessing a sex act in a public place is against the law

You are indeed correct, you are guessing.

So a sex act in public is not against the law?

Look it up

You decide

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/contents

"

I did im not daft enough to get into a forum debate not knowing what im debating about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fucing doggers. We just want a place to park up out of town to have a mess about in our motors that we've been tinkering with all week and there's some dude in the shadows with his cock out!

Works both ways.

Sure, enjoy dogging but accept that it's public space.

Or.... here's a radical idea... go have sex in a bed / swinging club / other location with washing facilities near by

why? If you enjoy dogging then go dogging.

Hence the 'or' - if you enjoy dogging accept it's a public space (what you said) "

Sorry..sounded like you meant instead of dogging. My bad

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"I'm sat on a sit and there's a car parked up with some kids in it. Obviously here to spoil any fun. Why do they do it? "
I thought that kids are entitled to get where they like . What rights would doggers have to spoil recreational or public areas .

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By *endrix30Man
over a year ago

dudley


"Yes doggers do have a right to be there, they are doing nothing wrong. Its the boy racers and their antics who have no right to be there.

Presumably you have a letter from the council / police confirming your interpretation? "
I know a police officer who says so, he even joins in with the dogging.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is this an episode of Scooby Doo. "We would've gotten away with it if it hadn't been for those pesky kids".

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"I know what you meant OP....normally when a car is full of youngsters are parked in dogging sites it isn't normally because they want to go dogging, more to gawp or to become a nuisance

Do you think there are other members of the public who thinks doggers are a nuisance? "
I would think that most people do. Why dont they just go to a club like everyome else does or are rhe just cheapskates

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

Dogging is against the law is it not? So no they dont have any right to be there

Is it really?

I wouldnt know hence why i put ?? Im not into it in any way so havent looked up the law im just guessing a sex act in a public place is against the law

You are indeed correct, you are guessing.

So a sex act in public is not against the law?

Look it up

You decide

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/contents

I did im not daft enough to get into a forum debate not knowing what im debating about"

Lol, no worries

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"I know what you meant OP....normally when a car is full of youngsters are parked in dogging sites it isn't normally because they want to go dogging, more to gawp or to become a nuisance

Do you think there are other members of the public who thinks doggers are a nuisance? I would think that most people do. Why dont they just go to a club like everyome else does or are rhe just cheapskates "

Maybe they prefer dogging?

Why would they be cheapskates?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know what you meant OP....normally when a car is full of youngsters are parked in dogging sites it isn't normally because they want to go dogging, more to gawp or to become a nuisance

Do you think there are other members of the public who thinks doggers are a nuisance? I would think that most people do. Why dont they just go to a club like everyome else does or are rhe just cheapskates

Maybe they prefer dogging?

Why would they be cheapskates?"

We love dogging , and certainly aren't cheapskates .

We enjoy the outdoors , the people we meet ( not just those we play with ) , the not knowing what may happen , the spontenaity , the control we have , the ability to move around with no rules and regulations and so much more . It's so liberating .

As for washing facilities , we have all the washing equipment we could possibly need .

We can take pics , and film our fun to our hearts content .

And finally , those people we meet while dogging are not in the slightest bit up their own arses , they are non judgemental and range from travellers to barristers and everyone sees themselves as equal .

Quite a bit could be learned from the liberal attitude shown by us doggers , especially by a few on this thread .

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By *endrix30Man
over a year ago

dudley


"I know what you meant OP....normally when a car is full of youngsters are parked in dogging sites it isn't normally because they want to go dogging, more to gawp or to become a nuisance

Do you think there are other members of the public who thinks doggers are a nuisance? I would think that most people do. Why dont they just go to a club like everyome else does or are rhe just cheapskates

Maybe they prefer dogging?

Why would they be cheapskates?

We love dogging , and certainly aren't cheapskates .

We enjoy the outdoors , the people we meet ( not just those we play with ) , the not knowing what may happen , the spontenaity , the control we have , the ability to move around with no rules and regulations and so much more . It's so liberating .

As for washing facilities , we have all the washing equipment we could possibly need .

We can take pics , and film our fun to our hearts content .

And finally , those people we meet while dogging are not in the slightest bit up their own arses , they are non judgemental and range from travellers to barristers and everyone sees themselves as equal .

Quite a bit could be learned from the liberal attitude shown by us doggers , especially by a few on this thread .

"
Well said, i agree with you.

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By *adyboy-DaddyCouple
over a year ago

Andover

Sec in public is not illegal, however, dogging is dodgy clandestine activity (which I quite enjoy now and again)

So it's a bit rich to be complaining that someone else also engaged in a different kind of dodgy clandestine activity is getting in the way of yours!

And it's interesting that they weren't donutting round the car park and swearing until someone said they every right to be there.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Actually, if you're dogging you can be arrested which you are well aware of. Now ask why you can be arrested. Because you could be breaking the law.

Teenagers sitting in a car in a public place are not breaking the law.

Therefore, those who are in the wrong are the doggers.

Simple when you look at it right.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

Dogging is against the law is it not? So no they dont have any right to be there

Is it really?

I wouldnt know hence why i put ?? Im not into it in any way so havent looked up the law im just guessing a sex act in a public place is against the law

You are indeed correct, you are guessing.

So a sex act in public is not against the law?

Look it up

You decide

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/contents

"

But it wouldn't just fall under that act.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes doggers do have a right to be there, they are doing nothing wrong. Its the boy racers and their antics who have no right to be there. "

Pease say this was said tongue in cheek......

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

The teens at our local dogging site are there to take drugs...

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"Yes doggers do have a right to be there, they are doing nothing wrong. Its the boy racers and their antics who have no right to be there.

Presumably you have a letter from the council / police confirming your interpretation? I know a police officer who says so, he even joins in with the dogging."
. The only circumstances under which is might not be possible to prosecute you would be if you can prove you took sufficient steps to ensure that no one could see you . This is hardly likely to be the case at a dogging site .

A conviction for indecency and bring thought of as a peeping Tom has no appeal to me .

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"I know what you meant OP....normally when a car is full of youngsters are parked in dogging sites it isn't normally because they want to go dogging, more to gawp or to become a nuisance

Do you think there are other members of the public who thinks doggers are a nuisance? I would think that most people do. Why dont they just go to a club like everyome else does or are rhe just cheapskates "

Because that is their kink.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Are you sure it's not the doggers ruining it for the kids? "

That was my 1st thought!

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"The teens at our local dogging site are there to take drugs... "

I thought I said that earlier

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm 'wowing' at this thread.... some people's sense of entitlement is crazy!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are no,to my knowledge,official dogging sites,it's not like camp sites.

Go somewhere else,somewhere less conspicuous,away from the general public and prying eyes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is this an episode of Scooby Doo. "We would've gotten away with it if it hadn't been for those pesky kids". "

Like zoiks scoob!!

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

I think unless people have been dogging they won't know what sometimes happens when cars full of youngsters turn up. They are not there to enjoy watching or joining in with the sex between consenting adults, they are there to spoil that fun normally by making a nuisance of themselves so that consenting adults will stop doing what consenting adults do so this I think is what the OP means rather than....I want to have sex anywhere I want and other people shouldn't be there.

To be fair though, I am surprised that people have not realised this going from how the dogging activity is described....or maybe I am not so susprised as it seems to be the way of the forum lately. If it isn't what people are into, then any posts about it are twisted or shot down.

Stop the press, people have different kinks than each other

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great thread. So funny.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"There are no,to my knowledge,official dogging sites,it's not like camp sites.

Go somewhere else,somewhere less conspicuous,away from the general public and prying eyes."

Dogging sites are well away from the general public and prying eyes normally.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think unless people have been dogging they won't know what sometimes happens when cars full of youngsters turn up. They are not there to enjoy watching or joining in with the sex between consenting adults, they are there to spoil that fun normally by making a nuisance of themselves so that consenting adults will stop doing what consenting adults do so this I think is what the OP means rather than....I want to have sex anywhere I want and other people shouldn't be there.

To be fair though, I am surprised that people have not realised this going from how the dogging activity is described....or maybe I am not so susprised as it seems to be the way of the forum lately. If it isn't what people are into, then any posts about it are twisted or shot down.

Stop the press, people have different kinks than each other "

I think the point that most are trying to make is that doggers aren't entitled to be there either. For example... you're on a long journey and you pull into a car park for a cup of coffee and a bit of a rest, a load of doggers turn up and spoil your nice rest, exactly the same as kids turning up and spoiling you're dogging sesh. Public places are there to share, if you want guaranteed privacy rent a field or something

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suppose many people have personal anecdotes and should be entitled to their opinions based on their feeling towards the dogging community .....

For me the problems arise when inconsiderate doggers afford their own needs priority over the rest of society....

There is a notorious long-established dogging location not far from me which has remained active even though a horse riding school for kids was opened right in the midst of the location....

To me that now makes it an inappropriate location for dogging...

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"I think unless people have been dogging they won't know what sometimes happens when cars full of youngsters turn up. They are not there to enjoy watching or joining in with the sex between consenting adults, they are there to spoil that fun normally by making a nuisance of themselves so that consenting adults will stop doing what consenting adults do so this I think is what the OP means rather than....I want to have sex anywhere I want and other people shouldn't be there.

To be fair though, I am surprised that people have not realised this going from how the dogging activity is described....or maybe I am not so susprised as it seems to be the way of the forum lately. If it isn't what people are into, then any posts about it are twisted or shot down.

Stop the press, people have different kinks than each other

I think the point that most are trying to make is that doggers aren't entitled to be there either. For example... you're on a long journey and you pull into a car park for a cup of coffee and a bit of a rest, a load of doggers turn up and spoil your nice rest, exactly the same as kids turning up and spoiling you're dogging sesh. Public places are there to share, if you want guaranteed privacy rent a field or something"

You are missing the point and which is happening a lot on the thread. I am guessing if a man turned up wanting his cuppa would not be there just to spoil doggers fun, you would be there to have your cuppa.

As to doggers are not entitled to be there either, they are, just the same as the man with his cuppa or the kids out to spoil their fun.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"I suppose many people have personal anecdotes and should be entitled to their opinions based on their feeling towards the dogging community .....

For me the problems arise when inconsiderate doggers afford their own needs priority over the rest of society....

There is a notorious long-established dogging location not far from me which has remained active even though a horse riding school for kids was opened right in the midst of the location....

To me that now makes it an inappropriate location for dogging...

"

But not what the OP was talking about.

If it was a discussion on how dogging can sometimes spoil life for other people then my answer would have been different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I suppose many people have personal anecdotes and should be entitled to their opinions based on their feeling towards the dogging community .....

For me the problems arise when inconsiderate doggers afford their own needs priority over the rest of society....

There is a notorious long-established dogging location not far from me which has remained active even though a horse riding school for kids was opened right in the midst of the location....

To me that now makes it an inappropriate location for dogging...

But not what the OP was talking about.

If it was a discussion on how dogging can sometimes spoil life for other people then my answer would have been different. "

I'm just simply unpacking my own thoughts without intending to enter either side of any debate on the subject..

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

But you have entered the debate by posting your views on what you think about dogging, which obviously is your view and you are entitled to it and are allowed to post it ( said as my comments seem to need a disclaimer )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think unless people have been dogging they won't know what sometimes happens when cars full of youngsters turn up. They are not there to enjoy watching or joining in with the sex between consenting adults, they are there to spoil that fun normally by making a nuisance of themselves so that consenting adults will stop doing what consenting adults do so this I think is what the OP means rather than....I want to have sex anywhere I want and other people shouldn't be there.

To be fair though, I am surprised that people have not realised this going from how the dogging activity is described....or maybe I am not so susprised as it seems to be the way of the forum lately. If it isn't what people are into, then any posts about it are twisted or shot down.

Stop the press, people have different kinks than each other

I think the point that most are trying to make is that doggers aren't entitled to be there either. For example... you're on a long journey and you pull into a car park for a cup of coffee and a bit of a rest, a load of doggers turn up and spoil your nice rest, exactly the same as kids turning up and spoiling you're dogging sesh. Public places are there to share, if you want guaranteed privacy rent a field or something"

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By *adyboy-DaddyCouple
over a year ago

Andover


"I'm 'wowing' at this thread.... some people's sense of entitlement is crazy!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"But you have entered the debate by posting your views on what you think about dogging, which obviously is your view and you are entitled to it and are allowed to post it ( said as my comments seem to need a disclaimer )

"

Rugger no offence intended but I haven't posted my opinions about dogging ....

I posted my opinion about the goings on at one location.....

But I'm quite happy to leave it there.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Here's a good explanatory article regarding the legality of having sex in public and the Police approach to those who indulge. You may be surprised.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29205198

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are no,to my knowledge,official dogging sites,it's not like camp sites.

Go somewhere else,somewhere less conspicuous,away from the general public and prying eyes."

From the same article;

"Also taking a softly-softly approach to public sex is Brighton council, which recently received a number of complaints over cruising in Dukes Mount park. Officials reportedly suggested that The Greenery, a notorious gay cruising spot in the park should allow bushes to grow between 15ft and 20ft tall to afford privacy to outdoor fornicators."

Oh....and apparently they are not 'Dogging Sites'. They are Public Sex Environments or PSE's

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By *adyboy-DaddyCouple
over a year ago

Andover

I'm not sure anyone has missed the point.

Simply put, diggers and youngsters in cars are both using secluded spots to take part in an acitivity they enjoy away from prying eyes.

I do t imagine for one minute that a bunch of teenagers sit outside McDonalds and think "I know, let's go to that picnic site and get in the way if the dogging"

They're just using a public space for their own recreation during a quiet time when general members of the public will not be there.

And as such, as mentioned above, the OP is displaying quite a sense of self entitlement that he believes he has more right to be here than they do and that his activity is somehow more legitimate than theirs.

And many on the thread are simply saying "hold on, your no more entitled than they are"

No point has been missed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In the five and a half years that we have been dogging , we have never once offended anyone .

We go two or three times a week , and are as discreet as one could possibly be .

Going back to the op , the teenagers , and anyone else who chooses to to go to a public spot are just as entitled to be there . It can be frustrating when it's obvious the teens in their cars are clearly trying to wind us up . But hey ho , that's life . We normally move on for a bit and they go . And to be fair it's only a few that do this . Most are up there to have a smoke , or just hang out .

We are used to the moral majority of swingers judging us for doing what we do . What may surprise them is how many swingers we have met while dogging , and how many have added it as an interest after meeting us .

Since we can't accommodate , our car , or an outdoor spot becomes our meeting point . There aren't any clubs within an hour of our location . So we often arrange to meet fellow fab members outdoors .

Done with respect to the general public , there is no reason why dogging should be slated .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are no,to my knowledge,official dogging sites,it's not like camp sites.

Go somewhere else,somewhere less conspicuous,away from the general public and prying eyes.

Dogging sites are well away from the general public and prying eyes normally."

Not where the op is going,there's kids apparently

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not sure anyone has missed the point.

Simply put, diggers and youngsters in cars are both using secluded spots to take part in an acitivity they enjoy away from prying eyes.

I do t imagine for one minute that a bunch of teenagers sit outside McDonalds and think "I know, let's go to that picnic site and get in the way if the dogging"

They're just using a public space for their own recreation during a quiet time when general members of the public will not be there.

And as such, as mentioned above, the OP is displaying quite a sense of self entitlement that he believes he has more right to be here than they do and that his activity is somehow more legitimate than theirs.

And many on the thread are simply saying "hold on, your no more entitled than they are"

No point has been missed. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the five and a half years that we have been dogging , we have never once offended anyone .

We go two or three times a week , and are as discreet as one could possibly be .

Going back to the op , the teenagers , and anyone else who chooses to to go to a public spot are just as entitled to be there . It can be frustrating when it's obvious the teens in their cars are clearly trying to wind us up . But hey ho , that's life . We normally move on for a bit and they go . And to be fair it's only a few that do this . Most are up there to have a smoke , or just hang out .

We are used to the moral majority of swingers judging us for doing what we do . What may surprise them is how many swingers we have met while dogging , and how many have added it as an interest after meeting us .

Since we can't accommodate , our car , or an outdoor spot becomes our meeting point . There aren't any clubs within an hour of our location . So we often arrange to meet fellow fab members outdoors .

Done with respect to the general public , there is no reason why dogging should be slated . "

Well said it's surprising the variety of people you can meet while out dogging, ive been going on and off for about 15 years now.

Have encountered some bad times though with boy racers ragging it round the car park and aiming fireworks at people and cars.

Genuine doggers cause less trouble than any youths you see in cars.Thats just my experience though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the five and a half years that we have been dogging , we have never once offended anyone .

We go two or three times a week , and are as discreet as one could possibly be .

Going back to the op , the teenagers , and anyone else who chooses to to go to a public spot are just as entitled to be there . It can be frustrating when it's obvious the teens in their cars are clearly trying to wind us up . But hey ho , that's life . We normally move on for a bit and they go . And to be fair it's only a few that do this . Most are up there to have a smoke , or just hang out .

We are used to the moral majority of swingers judging us for doing what we do . What may surprise them is how many swingers we have met while dogging , and how many have added it as an interest after meeting us .

Since we can't accommodate , our car , or an outdoor spot becomes our meeting point . There aren't any clubs within an hour of our location . So we often arrange to meet fellow fab members outdoors .

Done with respect to the general public , there is no reason why dogging should be slated .

Well said it's surprising the variety of people you can meet while out dogging, ive been going on and off for about 15 years now.

Have encountered some bad times though with boy racers ragging it round the car park and aiming fireworks at people and cars.

Genuine doggers cause less trouble than any youths you see in cars.Thats just my experience though "

Not to mention the throwing of eggs , and shouting obscenities ...... And your experience is ours too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hmm,,should you really be having sex in a public space?

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"I know what you meant OP....normally when a car is full of youngsters are parked in dogging sites it isn't normally because they want to go dogging, more to gawp or to become a nuisance

Do you think there are other members of the public who thinks doggers are a nuisance? I would think that most people do. Why dont they just go to a club like everyome else does or are rhe just cheapskates

Maybe they prefer dogging?

Why would they be cheapskates?

We love dogging , and certainly aren't cheapskates .

We enjoy the outdoors , the people we meet ( not just those we play with ) , the not knowing what may happen , the spontenaity , the control we have , the ability to move around with no rules and regulations and so much more . It's so liberating .

As for washing facilities , we have all the washing equipment we could possibly need .

We can take pics , and film our fun to our hearts content .

And finally , those people we meet while dogging are not in the slightest bit up their own arses , they are non judgemental and range from travellers to barristers and everyone sees themselves as equal .

Quite a bit could be learned from the liberal attitude shown by us doggers , especially by a few on this thread .

"
Surely most people are judgmental in life . People make decisions based on status , education , looks ,personality , achievements and a wide variety of other factor .

It could be argued that you need to be judgemental in order to survive .

Is anyone really non judgemental. ?.

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By *am-RaiderMan
over a year ago

Corby

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady


"

You decide

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/contents

I did im not daft enough to get into a forum debate not knowing what im debating about"

Hopefully your example will be ignored by regular forum users. We don't want to set a precedent of posters knowing what they're talking about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know what you meant OP....normally when a car is full of youngsters are parked in dogging sites it isn't normally because they want to go dogging, more to gawp or to become a nuisance

Do you think there are other members of the public who thinks doggers are a nuisance? I would think that most people do. Why dont they just go to a club like everyome else does or are rhe just cheapskates

Maybe they prefer dogging?

Why would they be cheapskates?

We love dogging , and certainly aren't cheapskates .

We enjoy the outdoors , the people we meet ( not just those we play with ) , the not knowing what may happen , the spontenaity , the control we have , the ability to move around with no rules and regulations and so much more . It's so liberating .

As for washing facilities , we have all the washing equipment we could possibly need .

We can take pics , and film our fun to our hearts content .

And finally , those people we meet while dogging are not in the slightest bit up their own arses , they are non judgemental and range from travellers to barristers and everyone sees themselves as equal .

Quite a bit could be learned from the liberal attitude shown by us doggers , especially by a few on this thread .

Surely most people are judgmental in life . People make decisions based on status , education , looks ,personality , achievements and a wide variety of other factor .

It could be argued that you need to be judgemental in order to survive .

Is anyone really non judgemental. ?. "

Of course we all make judgements , but to publicly decry other people's choices in life is what gets to me .

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By *asokittyWoman
over a year ago

Nr Worksop


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone. "

Tell the police that.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

Tell the police that....."

The police have no issue at all with respectful doggers . We should know as we have chatted with them many times .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

Tell the police that.....

The police have no issue at all with respectful doggers . We should know as we have chatted with them many times .

"

Agreed. See my post above.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"But you have entered the debate by posting your views on what you think about dogging, which obviously is your view and you are entitled to it and are allowed to post it ( said as my comments seem to need a disclaimer )

Rugger no offence intended but I haven't posted my opinions about dogging ....

I posted my opinion about the goings on at one location.....

-)"

In which case I will rephrase and say you have entered the debate by posting your views on what you think about one dogging location and what happens in it

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"There are no,to my knowledge,official dogging sites,it's not like camp sites.

Go somewhere else,somewhere less conspicuous,away from the general public and prying eyes.

Dogging sites are well away from the general public and prying eyes normally.

Not where the op is going,there's kids apparently"

In a car driven to a dogging spot / beauty spot/ secluded spot or car park I assumed, and not kids hanging out in a playground after primary school.

Hopefully the OP will confirm which location he was at

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"

Have encountered some bad times though with boy racers ragging it round the car park and aiming fireworks at people and cars.

Not to mention the throwing of eggs , and shouting obscenities ...... And your p"

The point I was making

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are no,to my knowledge,official dogging sites,it's not like camp sites.

Go somewhere else,somewhere less conspicuous,away from the general public and prying eyes.

Dogging sites are well away from the general public and prying eyes normally.

Not where the op is going,there's kids apparently

In a car driven to a dogging spot / beauty spot/ secluded spot or car park I assumed, and not kids hanging out in a playground after primary school.

Hopefully the OP will confirm which location he was at"

That's what I'm saying,there is no such thing as official dogging spots.once any place becomes known it will attract all sorts of folk for a nosey or to disrupt.

Best to arrange dogging with like minded folk,away from places the public is likely to go,tell no one,and if it is to be repeated,choose another spot.

Going to so called known dogging areas is always going to attract undesirables.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There are no,to my knowledge,official dogging sites,it's not like camp sites.

Go somewhere else,somewhere less conspicuous,away from the general public and prying eyes.

Dogging sites are well away from the general public and prying eyes normally.

Not where the op is going,there's kids apparently

In a car driven to a dogging spot / beauty spot/ secluded spot or car park I assumed, and not kids hanging out in a playground after primary school.

Hopefully the OP will confirm which location he was at

That's what I'm saying,there is no such thing as official dogging spots.once any place becomes known it will attract all sorts of folk for a nosey or to disrupt.

Best to arrange dogging with like minded folk,away from places the public is likely to go,tell no one,and if it is to be repeated,choose another spot.

Going to so called known dogging areas is always going to attract undesirables."

But that defeats the whole object !

There are also plenty of desirables there too

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"

Best to arrange dogging with like minded folk,away from places the public is likely to go,tell no one,and if it is to be repeated,choose another spot.

"

That defeats the object and isn't what dogging is. Dogging isn't pre arranged normally.

I think I may be talking with fork tongue today so will try and clarify. Known dogging spots are not designated dogging spots.Nevertheless they are used and known to be used by doggers.

Once people find out about them they are then open to being targeted by some people. Hopefully that is better explained but if not, I give up

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

People are allowed to be in public spaces.

Are doggers? As long as they are not committing an offence.

However, having sex in public could be deemed an offence so doggers know they run that risk.

They consider the risks worth it as that's there thing.

Teenagers who turn up do so to wind the doggers up. What they are doing is not an offence.

But they do it because it's their thing.

Neither has MORE right to be there than the other as long as they stay within the law.

Doggers complaining about being caught out or annoyed by teenagers? That's the risk you run. Just be grateful it's not the police turning up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Best to arrange dogging with like minded folk,away from places the public is likely to go,tell no one,and if it is to be repeated,choose another spot.

That defeats the object and isn't what dogging is. Dogging isn't pre arranged normally.

I think I may be talking with fork tongue today so will try and clarify. Known dogging spots are not designated dogging spots.Nevertheless they are used and known to be used by doggers.

Once people find out about them they are then open to being targeted by some people. Hopefully that is better explained but if not, I give up "

True, but reading the OP he was just assuming that's what the teenagers were doing, he had no proof.

I'm sure it's most frustrating when you want sex & some pesky kids show up whether it's on purpose or not, it's the chance you take though.

And I'm sure back in the day when I was a bored teenager I would have found it quite entertaining to piss off the *perves by turning up.

*teenage viewpoint disclaimer!

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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago

in the suffolk countryside


"Have they flashed their lights yet to invite you over? Maybe they don't know dogging etiquette, go and flash your willy and show them the ropes"
dont get upset if they call you grandpa

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

Tell the police that.....

The police have no issue at all with respectful doggers . We should know as we have chatted with them many times .

"
Whilst some individual police officers may have no issue , the fact remains that it is against the law to engage in indecent acts in public areas and these officers would be expressing their own personal opinion , not that of the force concerned .

A conviction for indecent behaviour would not be particularly attractive to most people.

The risks of being prosecuted may be low , but it is still a risk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

Tell the police that.....

The police have no issue at all with respectful doggers . We should know as we have chatted with them many times .

Whilst some individual police officers may have no issue , the fact remains that it is against the law to engage in indecent acts in public areas and these officers would be expressing their own personal opinion , not that of the force concerned .

A conviction for indecent behaviour would not be particularly attractive to most people.

The risks of being prosecuted may be low , but it is still a risk. "

Offences that could be committed in a 'public sex environment'[PSE]

1. Outraging public decency contrary to common law

2. Behaviour that is likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress to other users contrary to the Public Order Act 1986

3. Offences of exposure - if the person exposes themselves to someone intending that someone will see them and be caused alarm or distress

4. Sex in a public toilet (Section 71, Sexual Offences Act, 2003)

The above applies to England and Wales although there are some similar provisions in Scotland and Northern Ireland

It's a complicated issue. Outdoor sex in the middle of a forest is clearly at the other end of the spectrum from sex on a crowded beach. But both can be interpreted as sex in public places.

The ACPO guidance focuses on those who stumble across it as well as those that indulge in it. "The Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)… is committed to making PSEs safer for both users and those who happen upon them when going about their daily business."

PSEs can be dangerous places where rape, serious sexual offences, serious assaults and robbery take place and go unreported. Sites used exclusively by men - such as public toilets - have historically been policed differently to cruising and dogging sites, aided by a different set of legal rules. Police action has often been triggered by public concern.

"PSEs are complex environments and the use of them for sexual activity is an emotive issue, which is more often than not exacerbated by negative stereotypes and prejudicial views," reads the guidance.

"It is our responsibility (with our partners) to make such places safe places for all users, and prevent and detect crimes. It is not our role to act as moral arbiters; we must enforce the law proportionately, firmly, fairly and in an even-handed way."

Chris Ashford, professor of law and society at Northumbria University is currently working on a book exploring the law's relationship with the public sex, entitled Public Sex and the Law: Silent Desire. There are, found Ashford, significant differences in the approach to policing public sex in different parts of the country.

Copywrite BBC News/Julie Bindel 2014

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"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

Tell the police that.....

The police have no issue at all with respectful doggers . We should know as we have chatted with them many times .

Whilst some individual police officers may have no issue , the fact remains that it is against the law to engage in indecent acts in public areas and these officers would be expressing their own personal opinion , not that of the force concerned .

A conviction for indecent behaviour would not be particularly attractive to most people.

The risks of being prosecuted may be low , but it is still a risk.

Offences that could be committed in a 'public sex environment'[PSE]

1. Outraging public decency contrary to common law

2. Behaviour that is likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress to other users contrary to the Public Order Act 1986

3. Offences of exposure - if the person exposes themselves to someone intending that someone will see them and be caused alarm or distress

4. Sex in a public toilet (Section 71, Sexual Offences Act, 2003)

The above applies to England and Wales although there are some similar provisions in Scotland and Northern Ireland

It's a complicated issue. Outdoor sex in the middle of a forest is clearly at the other end of the spectrum from sex on a crowded beach. But both can be interpreted as sex in public places.

The ACPO guidance focuses on those who stumble across it as well as those that indulge in it. "The Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)… is committed to making PSEs safer for both users and those who happen upon them when going about their daily business."

PSEs can be dangerous places where rape, serious sexual offences, serious assaults and robbery take place and go unreported. Sites used exclusively by men - such as public toilets - have historically been policed differently to cruising and dogging sites, aided by a different set of legal rules. Police action has often been triggered by public concern.

"PSEs are complex environments and the use of them for sexual activity is an emotive issue, which is more often than not exacerbated by negative stereotypes and prejudicial views," reads the guidance.

"It is our responsibility (with our partners) to make such places safe places for all users, and prevent and detect crimes. It is not our role to act as moral arbiters; we must enforce the law proportionately, firmly, fairly and in an even-handed way."

Chris Ashford, professor of law and society at Northumbria University is currently working on a book exploring the law's relationship with the public sex, entitled Public Sex and the Law: Silent Desire. There are, found Ashford, significant differences in the approach to policing public sex in different parts of the country.

Copywrite BBC News/Julie Bindel 2014

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Drops phone and walks away - BOOM

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Drops phone and walks away - BOOM"

Is that good???

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

Thread of the week.

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

Tell the police that.....

The police have no issue at all with respectful doggers . We should know as we have chatted with them many times .

Whilst some individual police officers may have no issue , the fact remains that it is against the law to engage in indecent acts in public areas and these officers would be expressing their own personal opinion , not that of the force concerned .

A conviction for indecent behaviour would not be particularly attractive to most people.

The risks of being prosecuted may be low , but it is still a risk.

Offences that could be committed in a 'public sex environment'[PSE]

1. Outraging public decency contrary to common law

2. Behaviour that is likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress to other users contrary to the Public Order Act 1986

3. Offences of exposure - if the person exposes themselves to someone intending that someone will see them and be caused alarm or distress

4. Sex in a public toilet (Section 71, Sexual Offences Act, 2003)

The above applies to England and Wales although there are some similar provisions in Scotland and Northern Ireland

It's a complicated issue. Outdoor sex in the middle of a forest is clearly at the other end of the spectrum from sex on a crowded beach. But both can be interpreted as sex in public places.

The ACPO guidance focuses on those who stumble across it as well as those that indulge in it. "The Metropolitan Police Service (MPS)… is committed to making PSEs safer for both users and those who happen upon them when going about their daily business."

PSEs can be dangerous places where rape, serious sexual offences, serious assaults and robbery take place and go unreported. Sites used exclusively by men - such as public toilets - have historically been policed differently to cruising and dogging sites, aided by a different set of legal rules. Police action has often been triggered by public concern.

"PSEs are complex environments and the use of them for sexual activity is an emotive issue, which is more often than not exacerbated by negative stereotypes and prejudicial views," reads the guidance.

"It is our responsibility (with our partners) to make such places safe places for all users, and prevent and detect crimes. It is not our role to act as moral arbiters; we must enforce the law proportionately, firmly, fairly and in an even-handed way."

Chris Ashford, professor of law and society at Northumbria University is currently working on a book exploring the law's relationship with the public sex, entitled Public Sex and the Law: Silent Desire. There are, found Ashford, significant differences in the approach to policing public sex in different parts of the country.

Copywrite BBC News/Julie Bindel 2014

"
An interesting post and thanks for taking the time to list the relevant information.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Is the inside of a car a public place?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Remember, it is not illegal to be present at a dogging or cruising site. The police would also be overstepping the mark if they asked you to leave.

If you take reasonable steps to ensure privacy, particularly as you're not there to outrage others, it's also not likely to be breaking the law if you have sex.

The police have been known to give out hot beverages and biscuits at cruising grounds. Thus doing the opposite of harassing and arresting people there for sex.

They are interested in deterring trouble makers though and making arrests where yobs have caused damage and harassing users. For this reason I would be wary of groups of guys who are potentially not in such spots for sex - I'm friendly with everyone but caution is sometimes needed.

Remember, sex outdoors isn't of itself an offence in UK law. Nor is being present at a site known for sex hook-ups. Even if carrying condoms. Lube etc - that's your right and not the business of the police.

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over a year ago


"Is the inside of a car a public place? "

It's a publicly viewable place.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

How about my front room? With the curtains open?

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over a year ago


"Is the inside of a car a public place? "

You could probably claim that under Article 8 of the Human Rights Act that your right to privacy had been infringed as the complainant would have had to approach the vehicle and look in to be able to see anything/something that offended them. And it would depend on other factors - time, location etc e.g. 3pm in Asda car park would probably get you a severe telling off at least from the local constabulary

But I'm only guessing

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

A publicly viewable private place?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How about my front room? With the curtains open?"

Could get done for indecent exposure maybe?

Would get those Betty netts twitching that's for sure

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Betty nets......lol ..you have made my entire evening

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How about my front room? With the curtains open?"

The LNP test would probably be applied to your actions:

Is it Legal: Yes. It is legal for consenting adults to engage in sexual intercourse.

Is it Necessary: It could be argued that it is to demonstrate love/affection/intimacy or to exercise your right to a family life [Article 8 again].

Is it Proportionate: It depends??? Location [of you in the front room and your house]

Someone would also have to lodge a complaint.

I must add that my only legal qualification is an ability to read And all this is merely my interpretation of stuff I've read today

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Peter Moore killed dogging in pensarn literally xxx

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over a year ago


"Betty nets......lol ..you have made my entire evening "

*I'm here all week*

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone. "

I bet that doesn't look creepy at all

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"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

I bet that doesn't look creepy at all "

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

We probably need more areas that are officially sanctioned clothes optional places - not all of them beaches. It's legal to be naked, as long as your intentions are good, just as it's legal to be at a dogging spot, having sex in public (if you're not intending to offend others and take reasonable steps to have privacy).

We're still a bit too prudish, a remnant from religious doctrine.

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over a year ago


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

I bet that doesn't look creepy at all "

It doesn't look creepy at all , no .

It's a group of people chatting , having a smoke , and hoping there may be some action .

No more different to a club , except there aren't lots of pissed up people doing exactly the same thing !

Ok , I get the hate brigade who think sex in a public place is wrong as innocent members of the public may see it . But if one waits till after dark , and takes care that no one who doesn't want to see is subjected to it , it's great .

Sex outside , under the stars , with an appreciative audience - we love it

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"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

I bet that doesn't look creepy at all

It doesn't look creepy at all , no .

It's a group of people chatting , having a smoke , and hoping there may be some action .

No more different to a club , except there aren't lots of pissed up people doing exactly the same thing !

Ok , I get the hate brigade who think sex in a public place is wrong as innocent members of the public may see it . But if one waits till after dark , and takes care that no one who doesn't want to see is subjected to it , it's great .

Sex outside , under the stars , with an appreciative audience - we love it "

Do you find the guys that go dogging are more respectful than club going single males?

I have to ask because, I figured if you pay to go to club you want to get your monies worth. But since dogging is free , a guys expectations are lower...

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over a year ago


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

I bet that doesn't look creepy at all

It doesn't look creepy at all , no .

It's a group of people chatting , having a smoke , and hoping there may be some action .

No more different to a club , except there aren't lots of pissed up people doing exactly the same thing !

Ok , I get the hate brigade who think sex in a public place is wrong as innocent members of the public may see it . But if one waits till after dark , and takes care that no one who doesn't want to see is subjected to it , it's great .

Sex outside , under the stars , with an appreciative audience - we love it

Do you find the guys that go dogging are more respectful than club going single males?

I have to ask because, I figured if you pay to go to club you want to get your monies worth. But since dogging is free , a guys expectations are lower..."

Guys fully respect the fact that they must wait to be invited when we go dogging . Which is often not the case from our experiences in clubs .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Doggers do have a right to be there and are not deliberately being a nuisance to others by shouting abuse or driving round the car park like a maniac. And doggers are not having sex the whole time that they are on the car park and usually go out after dark when other members of the public have gone.

I bet that doesn't look creepy at all

It doesn't look creepy at all , no .

It's a group of people chatting , having a smoke , and hoping there may be some action .

No more different to a club , except there aren't lots of pissed up people doing exactly the same thing !

Ok , I get the hate brigade who think sex in a public place is wrong as innocent members of the public may see it . But if one waits till after dark , and takes care that no one who doesn't want to see is subjected to it , it's great .

Sex outside , under the stars , with an appreciative audience - we love it

Do you find the guys that go dogging are more respectful than club going single males?

I have to ask because, I figured if you pay to go to club you want to get your monies worth. But since dogging is free , a guys expectations are lower...

Guys fully respect the fact that they must wait to be invited when we go dogging . Which is often not the case from our experiences in clubs ..... "

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Dogging is pretty much self-policing, with anyone exhibiting unwanted behaviour being turned away and made unwelcome. You can take selected acquaintances away too, if you'd like more freedom.

In club public areas you can still have the leering hopefuls tugging away, sometimes edging in to a bunfight encounter.

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