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"When those around sat on their arses upset by what was happening. He got of his and did something about it" maybe or then again all publicity is good publicity, got to keep him in the light, ensure his multi millions continue to grow  | |||
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"When those around sat on their arses upset by what was happening. He got of his and did something about it maybe or then again all publicity is good publicity, got to keep him in the light, ensure his multi millions continue to grow "i have no idea how much money he has maybe you could.find the evidence What i do know when he started live aid he was lead singer of a punk band hardly a.multimillionaire | |||
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"Geldof was worth £32million last year according to the Sunday times rich list. He made his money through Planet24 his TV production company that made the big breakfast among other programmes, he also owned an Internet travel/holiday company called deckchair which I believe he sold. I don't think he is short of a few quid" so by the sound of things he,s done it off is own bat.... so whats the problem if he helps others in need | |||
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"Geldof was worth £32million last year according to the Sunday times rich list. He made his money through Planet24 his TV production company that made the big breakfast among other programmes, he also owned an Internet travel/holiday company called deckchair which I believe he sold. I don't think he is short of a few quid so by the sound of things he,s done it off is own bat.... so whats the problem if he helps others in need " i was going to say that but it seems if your rich your a.wanker no matter what you do | |||
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"Geldof was worth £32million last year according to the Sunday times rich list. He made his money through Planet24 his TV production company that made the big breakfast among other programmes, he also owned an Internet travel/holiday company called deckchair which I believe he sold. I don't think he is short of a few quid so by the sound of things he,s done it off is own bat.... so whats the problem if he helps others in need i was going to say that but it seems if your rich your a.wanker no matter what you do" Plenty of poor wankers out there, they don't normally have such a high profile. Being outspoken will always bring you detractors. I used to like the early Boom town rats stuff. | |||
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"well he did kinda have a point in that if nigel farage had actually been to some of those common fisheries policy meetings that he was suppose to as a member on that committee... he might have a better understanding of how it worked..... protest... counter-protest and all that.... " tell me Fabio please, just how many meetings did Mr Farage attend in relation to the EU common fisheries policy on behalf of those who elected him? | |||
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"Just out of interest, think he is an Irish citizen and does hold a British KBE. But is he resident here and therefore entitled to vote in the referendum? Not saying he shouldn't chuck his two'penneth in either way just seems a bit OTT protest if he can't vote??" he used to have a town house in Chelsea and a country pile (Kent I believe) I think the £32,000,000 is on the conservative side | |||
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"Geldof was worth £32million last year according to the Sunday times rich list. He made his money through Planet24 his TV production company that made the big breakfast among other programmes, he also owned an Internet travel/holiday company called deckchair which I believe he sold. I don't think he is short of a few quid" I used to like The big breakfast with hilarious Stop the mop, Paula Yates was cool too, on The Tube wearing Geldofs slippers. X | |||
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"Geldof was worth £32million last year according to the Sunday times rich list. He made his money through Planet24 his TV production company that made the big breakfast among other programmes, he also owned an Internet travel/holiday company called deckchair which I believe he sold. I don't think he is short of a few quid" And a big house (the Priory don't you know) up the road from me ish | |||
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"Farage has once again attempted to portray this as poor fishermen, hard done by by the EU - being picked on by the rich elite. There is, though, as Captain Blackadder might have observed, only one thing wrong with this idea - it is bollocks. From The Independent: , “"A flagship of the pro-Brexit flotilla currently sailing up the Thames was involved in the UK’s largest ever frauds involving illegal catches of fish, it has emerged"”. And there is more. “"The Christina S, a 72-metre-long pelagic trawler, is one of two largest vessels taking part in the river protest organised by Scottish skippers heading to Westminster to call for the UK’s withdrawal from the EU … But in 2012, skipper of the boat Ernest Simpson, 65, and his son Allan, 43, were fined £65,000 each illegally landed mackerel and herring worth a total of £2,031,501. The pair also had to pay ‘proceeds of crime’ confiscation orders of over £360,000"”. And the boat’s current owner is worth over £100 million." under EU law  | |||
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"well he did kinda have a point in that if nigel farage had actually been to some of those common fisheries policy meetings that he was suppose to as a member on that committee... he might have a better understanding of how it worked..... protest... counter-protest and all that.... " As a former member of a local fisheries committee I can assure you that attendance is nothing more than a sop to democracy and an expenses earner, absolutely nothing more. Farage is right when he says that attendance was useless and achieved nothing. In over five years that I was a member we did nothing other than rubber stamp Brussels directives. The one time we tried to actually change something (the banning of chain matrix) we were shot down in flames by the EU (via MAFF) | |||
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"Farage has once again attempted to portray this as poor fishermen, hard done by by the EU - being picked on by the rich elite. There is, though, as Captain Blackadder might have observed, only one thing wrong with this idea - it is bollocks. From The Independent: , “"A flagship of the pro-Brexit flotilla currently sailing up the Thames was involved in the UK’s largest ever frauds involving illegal catches of fish, it has emerged"”. And there is more. “"The Christina S, a 72-metre-long pelagic trawler, is one of two largest vessels taking part in the river protest organised by Scottish skippers heading to Westminster to call for the UK’s withdrawal from the EU … But in 2012, skipper of the boat Ernest Simpson, 65, and his son Allan, 43, were fined £65,000 each illegally landed mackerel and herring worth a total of £2,031,501. The pair also had to pay ‘proceeds of crime’ confiscation orders of over £360,000"”. And the boat’s current owner is worth over £100 million. under EU law "They are criminals involved in a mukti-million pound crime as convicted in a British court. They are not "poor fisherman" | |||
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"Farage has once again attempted to portray this as poor fishermen, hard done by by the EU - being picked on by the rich elite. There is, though, as Captain Blackadder might have observed, only one thing wrong with this idea - it is bollocks. From The Independent: , “"A flagship of the pro-Brexit flotilla currently sailing up the Thames was involved in the UK’s largest ever frauds involving illegal catches of fish, it has emerged"”. And there is more. “"The Christina S, a 72-metre-long pelagic trawler, is one of two largest vessels taking part in the river protest organised by Scottish skippers heading to Westminster to call for the UK’s withdrawal from the EU … But in 2012, skipper of the boat Ernest Simpson, 65, and his son Allan, 43, were fined £65,000 each illegally landed mackerel and herring worth a total of £2,031,501. The pair also had to pay ‘proceeds of crime’ confiscation orders of over £360,000"”. And the boat’s current owner is worth over £100 million. under EU law
They are criminals involved in a mukti-million pound crime as convicted in a British court. They are not "poor fisherman""That's your opinion | |||
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"Now he is a multimillionaire and the world still needs feeding :-/" He tried. | |||
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"Farage has once again attempted to portray this as poor fishermen, hard done by by the EU - being picked on by the rich elite. There is, though, as Captain Blackadder might have observed, only one thing wrong with this idea - it is bollocks. From The Independent: , “"A flagship of the pro-Brexit flotilla currently sailing up the Thames was involved in the UK’s largest ever frauds involving illegal catches of fish, it has emerged"”. And there is more. “"The Christina S, a 72-metre-long pelagic trawler, is one of two largest vessels taking part in the river protest organised by Scottish skippers heading to Westminster to call for the UK’s withdrawal from the EU … But in 2012, skipper of the boat Ernest Simpson, 65, and his son Allan, 43, were fined £65,000 each illegally landed mackerel and herring worth a total of £2,031,501. The pair also had to pay ‘proceeds of crime’ confiscation orders of over £360,000"”. And the boat’s current owner is worth over £100 million. under EU law
They are criminals involved in a mukti-million pound crime as convicted in a British court. They are not "poor fisherman"
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"Farage has once again attempted to portray this as poor fishermen, hard done by by the EU - being picked on by the rich elite. There is, though, as Captain Blackadder might have observed, only one thing wrong with this idea - it is bollocks. From The Independent: , “"A flagship of the pro-Brexit flotilla currently sailing up the Thames was involved in the UK’s largest ever frauds involving illegal catches of fish, it has emerged"”. And there is more. “"The Christina S, a 72-metre-long pelagic trawler, is one of two largest vessels taking part in the river protest organised by Scottish skippers heading to Westminster to call for the UK’s withdrawal from the EU … But in 2012, skipper of the boat Ernest Simpson, 65, and his son Allan, 43, were fined £65,000 each illegally landed mackerel and herring worth a total of £2,031,501. The pair also had to pay ‘proceeds of crime’ confiscation orders of over £360,000"”. And the boat’s current owner is worth over £100 million." i working with a ex fisherman he had to dump fish to small back into the sea, but other eu countries landed their catch large or small in their own countries without fines. as for bob geldorf maybe he is worth millions, he raised millions for live aid in 1986, and the places it was for didnt seem to invest it in their future, a friends told me he worked at sea and would deliver cargoes to africa from charities go back 8 weeks later and the prev cargo was rummaged and left to rot, he even said they ordered stores off the agent in africa and some of the stores that came on were oxfam, so corrupt | |||
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"Farage has once again attempted to portray this as poor fishermen, hard done by by the EU - being picked on by the rich elite. There is, though, as Captain Blackadder might have observed, only one thing wrong with this idea - it is bollocks. From The Independent: , “"A flagship of the pro-Brexit flotilla currently sailing up the Thames was involved in the UK’s largest ever frauds involving illegal catches of fish, it has emerged"”. And there is more. “"The Christina S, a 72-metre-long pelagic trawler, is one of two largest vessels taking part in the river protest organised by Scottish skippers heading to Westminster to call for the UK’s withdrawal from the EU … But in 2012, skipper of the boat Ernest Simpson, 65, and his son Allan, 43, were fined £65,000 each illegally landed mackerel and herring worth a total of £2,031,501. The pair also had to pay ‘proceeds of crime’ confiscation orders of over £360,000"”. And the boat’s current owner is worth over £100 million. under EU law
They are criminals involved in a mukti-million pound crime as convicted in a British court. They are not "poor fisherman"
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Not really though, is it? It's fact."It's fact according to some people that both sir Walter Raleigh and Sir Francis Drake were pirates. I will always side with the fishermen in these cases. | |||
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"Farage has once again attempted to portray this as poor fishermen, hard done by by the EU - being picked on by the rich elite. There is, though, as Captain Blackadder might have observed, only one thing wrong with this idea - it is bollocks. From The Independent: , “"A flagship of the pro-Brexit flotilla currently sailing up the Thames was involved in the UK’s largest ever frauds involving illegal catches of fish, it has emerged"”. And there is more. “"The Christina S, a 72-metre-long pelagic trawler, is one of two largest vessels taking part in the river protest organised by Scottish skippers heading to Westminster to call for the UK’s withdrawal from the EU … But in 2012, skipper of the boat Ernest Simpson, 65, and his son Allan, 43, were fined £65,000 each illegally landed mackerel and herring worth a total of £2,031,501. The pair also had to pay ‘proceeds of crime’ confiscation orders of over £360,000"”. And the boat’s current owner is worth over £100 million. under EU law
They are criminals involved in a mukti-million pound crime as convicted in a British court. They are not "poor fisherman""One mans criminal is another mans freedom fighter. | |||
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"You can't criticise Geldof for Live Aid. The money raised was not well spent but he saved many lives and many lessons have been learned since then. He may well be rich but that is no reason to put him down. As for the Brexit/stay argument, it is emotive and he has as much right to have his voice heard as anyone else. PS. He has always come over as a bit of a wanker to me." Sums him/it up well in my opinion | |||
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"Geldof is back in publicity, will he call Bono to assist?" They are both a couple of complete dickheads with their heads stuck up their own arses. | |||
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"Geldof is back in publicity, will he call Bono to assist? They are both a couple of complete dickheads with their heads stuck up their own arses." Both guys have done a lot for charity and helped ease the suffering of people around the world.... So in my book that makes them alright, even though I wouldn't say I admire everything they do ..... But I don't like Bono sunglasses...  | |||
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"Geldof is back in publicity, will he call Bono to assist? They are both a couple of complete dickheads with their heads stuck up their own arses. Both guys have done a lot for charity and helped ease the suffering of people around the world.... So in my book that makes them alright, even though I wouldn't say I admire everything they do ..... But I don't like Bono sunglasses... "but but but Bono is a gingah!  | |||
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"Farage has once again attempted to portray this as poor fishermen, hard done by by the EU - being picked on by the rich elite. There is, though, as Captain Blackadder might have observed, only one thing wrong with this idea - it is bollocks. From The Independent: , “"A flagship of the pro-Brexit flotilla currently sailing up the Thames was involved in the UK’s largest ever frauds involving illegal catches of fish, it has emerged"”. And there is more. “"The Christina S, a 72-metre-long pelagic trawler, is one of two largest vessels taking part in the river protest organised by Scottish skippers heading to Westminster to call for the UK’s withdrawal from the EU … But in 2012, skipper of the boat Ernest Simpson, 65, and his son Allan, 43, were fined £65,000 each illegally landed mackerel and herring worth a total of £2,031,501. The pair also had to pay ‘proceeds of crime’ confiscation orders of over £360,000"”. And the boat’s current owner is worth over £100 million. under EU law
They are criminals involved in a mukti-million pound crime as convicted in a British court. They are not "poor fisherman"
One mans criminal is another mans freedom fighter."LOL. Yeah, they sound like proper modern-day Robin Hoods. | |||
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"well he did kinda have a point in that if nigel farage had actually been to some of those common fisheries policy meetings that he was suppose to as a member on that committee... he might have a better understanding of how it worked..... protest... counter-protest and all that.... tell me Fabio please, just how many meetings did Mr Farage attend in relation to the EU common fisheries policy on behalf of those who elected him? " happy to answer that......the answer would be zero, as it is UKIP policy not to attend or participate in any committee they are part of....... any this was geldofs reply.. which i think is a fair point... and what he said about farage... Geldof said: “Here are the facts about fishing. 1) Britain makes more money than any other country in Europe from fishing. 2) Britain has the second largest quota for fishing in Europe after Denmark. 3) Britain has the third largest landings. 4) you are no fisherman’s friend.” | |||
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"B-b-b-bono should ditch the shades and find a hat that fits..... He is not Keith Richards...... "He should come clean about his hair colour Probably grey now anyway | |||
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"B-b-b-bono should ditch the shades and find a hat that fits..... He is not Keith Richards......
He should come clean about his hair colour
Probably grey now anyway "I suppose he might counter that by singing.... I don't care what you think about the colour of my hair.... | |||
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"When those around sat on their arses upset by what was happening. He got of his and did something about it maybe or then again all publicity is good publicity, got to keep him in the light, ensure his multi millions continue to grow " | |||
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"Geldof is back in publicity, will he call Bono to assist?" No doubt "lining" his own pockets AGAIN. | |||
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"well he did kinda have a point in that if nigel farage had actually been to some of those common fisheries policy meetings that he was suppose to as a member on that committee... he might have a better understanding of how it worked..... protest... counter-protest and all that.... tell me Fabio please, just how many meetings did Mr Farage attend in relation to the EU common fisheries policy on behalf of those who elected him? happy to answer that......the answer would be zero, as it is UKIP policy not to attend or participate in any committee they are part of....... any this was geldofs reply.. which i think is a fair point... and what he said about farage... Geldof said: “Here are the facts about fishing. 1) Britain makes more money than any other country in Europe from fishing. 2) Britain has the second largest quota for fishing in Europe after Denmark. 3) Britain has the third largest landings. 4) you are no fisherman’s friend.”" 1) Maybe. 2) Again maybe, but a fair chunk of it is taken up by Spanish (and others) boats registering as British and taking the quota. 3) Again maybe, but a good proportion of the landings never see a British fish market. The fish are loaded straight on to trucks and whisked off to Europe (mainly Spain) 4) Ask a real fisherman if he thinks Bob Geldoff is his friend. Hopefully the Lofthouse family will sue him for breach of copyright. | |||
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"Thinked skinned Nigel blaming someone else for his hypocrisy. Shout out to Bob for making the debate entertaining "Yep, let the personalities get in the way of the real issue. All the politicians will be retired before the policy gets sorted out. Falling into the trap again. | |||
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"Geldof was worth £32million last year according to the Sunday times rich list. He made his money through Planet24 his TV production company that made the big breakfast among other programmes, he also owned an Internet travel/holiday company called deckchair which I believe he sold. I don't think he is short of a few quid so by the sound of things he,s done it off is own bat.... so whats the problem if he helps others in need " It's simple. Jealousy. It's second nature to some people to hate on others who have made something with their lives. | |||
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"Thinked skinned Nigel blaming someone else for his hypocrisy. Shout out to Bob for making the debate entertaining
Yep, let the personalities get in the way of the real issue. All the politicians will be retired before the policy gets sorted out.
Falling into the trap again. "There is a pattern when Nige gets an awkward question or challenge the UKIP fan boys start abusing the opponent rather than engaging in debate. | |||
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"Thinked skinned Nigel blaming someone else for his hypocrisy. Shout out to Bob for making the debate entertaining
Yep, let the personalities get in the way of the real issue. All the politicians will be retired before the policy gets sorted out.
Falling into the trap again.
There is a pattern when Nige gets an awkward question or challenge the UKIP fan boys start abusing the opponent rather than engaging in debate. "so it's ok for Geldof and others to abuse Farage but he's not allowed to say anything about it? The big problem today is not geldof and Farage, entertaining as it might be but the big story today is George Osborne committing political suicide by threatening an emergency budget if the country votes to leave. | |||
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"Thinked skinned Nigel blaming someone else for his hypocrisy. Shout out to Bob for making the debate entertaining
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Falling into the trap again. "Nige only exists due to the cult of personality doesn't he? | |||
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"Thinked skinned Nigel blaming someone else for his hypocrisy. Shout out to Bob for making the debate entertaining
Yep, let the personalities get in the way of the real issue. All the politicians will be retired before the policy gets sorted out.
Falling into the trap again.
There is a pattern when Nige gets an awkward question or challenge the UKIP fan boys start abusing the opponent rather than engaging in debate. so it's ok for Geldof and others to abuse Farage but he's not allowed to say anything about it?
The big problem today is not geldof and Farage, entertaining as it might be but the big story today is George Osborne committing political suicide by threatening an emergency budget if the country votes to leave. "There is a high number of threads opened when Nige wobbles. Maybe because he is an egotistical arse ? And your comment is amusing given this thread attacks Bob | |||
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" The big problem today is not geldof and Farage, entertaining as it might be but the big story today is George Osborne committing political suicide by threatening an emergency budget if the country votes to leave. " Which would never get voted through, Gideon has been thrown under the bus since his last budget | |||
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" The big problem today is not geldof and Farage, entertaining as it might be but the big story today is George Osborne committing political suicide by threatening an emergency budget if the country votes to leave. Which would never get voted through, Gideon has been thrown under the bus since his last budget " Always good seeing Tories fighting each other  | |||
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"Thinked skinned Nigel blaming someone else for his hypocrisy. Shout out to Bob for making the debate entertaining
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There is a pattern when Nige gets an awkward question or challenge the UKIP fan boys start abusing the opponent rather than engaging in debate. "what can you say... they are playing the man and not the ball so to speak.... easier to smear a person than engage the topic.... | |||
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"By what i have read...alot of remain supporters got off the boat in disgust after Geldof starting giving the wanker sign to every trawler that went past him." Just like Eddie Izzard on Question Time last week sounds like Geldof made a complete tit of himself then. | |||
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" The big problem today is not geldof and Farage, entertaining as it might be but the big story today is George Osborne committing political suicide by threatening an emergency budget if the country votes to leave. Which would never get voted through, Gideon has been thrown under the bus since his last budget " Gideon threw himself under that bus with no help from anyone else. The treasury has been issuing distorted figures into how the economy will be affected by a leave vote. Threatening to up income tax by 10% and take pensions away is farcical. This country needs a whole new cycle of politicians on both sides of the house. Hopefully a Brexit vote will hasten that event. As for Geldof, he hasn't lived in the real world since the 70's. That's assuming he ever did of course. The problem with rock stars and big name actors is that they begin to believe their own hype is real. | |||
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"Geldof is back in publicity, will he call Bono to assist?" I was meaning Bob is due to be on Question Time on the BBC, you guys have picked this up totally wrong disappointed  | |||
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"By what i have read...alot of remain supporters got off the boat in disgust after Geldof starting giving the wanker sign to every trawler that went past him. Just like Eddie Izzard on Question Time last week sounds like Geldof made a complete tit of himself then." | |||
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"Farage was on the EU Fisheries Commission and instead of trying to influence policy and assist British fisherman, he only turned up to 1 meeting out of 42. "I will re post my earlier answer to that one. "As a former member of a local fisheries committee I can assure you that attendance is nothing more than a sop to democracy and an expenses earner, absolutely nothing more. Farage is right when he says that attendance was useless and achieved nothing. In over five years that I was a member we did nothing other than rubber stamp Brussels directives. The one time we tried to actually change something (the banning of chain matrix) we were shot down in flames by the EU (via MAFF)" Farage attended many meetings but eventually gave up (as I did years ago) when he realised the futility of it. | |||
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"Farage was on the EU Fisheries Commission and instead of trying to influence policy and assist British fisherman, he only turned up to 1 meeting out of 42.
I will re post my earlier answer to that one.
"As a former member of a local fisheries committee I can assure you that attendance is nothing more than a sop to democracy and an expenses earner, absolutely nothing more.
Farage is right when he says that attendance was useless and achieved nothing.
In over five years that I was a member we did nothing other than rubber stamp Brussels directives. The one time we tried to actually change something (the banning of chain matrix) we were shot down in flames by the EU (via MAFF)"
Farage attended many meetings but eventually gave up (as I did years ago) when he realised the futility of it."so sad that our fishing industry has fallen to such a low; in your opinion what would happen to our fishing if we voted leave? | |||
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"Bob geldof couldn't give a fuck what anyone on this or any other threadthinks, he just does what he feels is right" With the emphasis on what HE thinks | |||
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"Michael hutchence once said, everyone thinks Bob Geldof is a saint but hes evil." The devil Inside | |||
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"Bob is all about Bob where as nigel is all about.............. hmmmmmmmm "a shrinking violet..?
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"Used to respect bob but to be honest he made a complete dick of himself he's just a millionaire luvy now turning up in a yacht to drown out hard working fishing men fighting for their livelihood what a complete bellend !!" Why were those fishermen in cahoots with another multimillionaire who couldn't give 2 fucks about them just getting his face on public?? If they were that intent on fighting shouldn't do it behind a fake man of the people | |||
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"Used to respect bob but to be honest he made a complete dick of himself he's just a millionaire luvy now turning up in a yacht to drown out hard working fishing men fighting for their livelihood what a complete bellend !! Why were those fishermen in cahoots with another multimillionaire who couldn't give 2 fucks about them just getting his face on public?? If they were that intent on fighting shouldn't do it behind a fake man of the people Someone else caught up in the personality trap and not the issue " I hope your referring to Farage and not myself. Since the issue is fisherman wanting more and then standing side by side with the very man who was supposed to be representing them in Europe couldn't even be bothered to attend the meetings regarding their futures, I have to presume you mean farage. | |||
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"When those around sat on their arses upset by what was happening. He got of his and did something about it maybe or then again all publicity is good publicity, got to keep him in the light, ensure his multi millions continue to grow "Silliness now, pure silliness. He appears to be a considerate open minded, compassionate individual. What have you done for the vulnerable, the poverty stricken? | |||
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"When those around sat on their arses upset by what was happening. He got of his and did something about it I used to think Jimmy savile was a nice bloke too. Would never have believed he wasn't a decent person. your making a comparison which is silly.. one was a vile and disgusting paedophile, the other depending on ones view is a bloke who used his status to try and help children dying of starvation.. one of them raised millions for children's charities and hospitals, one of them raised millions for starving children in Africa. Both of them known for having vile personalities. What point are you trying to make?" You know one and knew the other one personally then? | |||
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" Gove gave a scarily 'good' and patronising performance last night too if anyone saw it?" i think dimbleby was excellent last night.... he was quite to point out a lot of the misinformation, and he really did coax some interesting questions out of the audience... or which he did look uncomfortable at times... i think that was the first time gove (or anyone on the leave side) admitted there would be some consequences to leaving... but the frustating thing for me is that he managed to wriggle out of answering what they were that is the only complaint I had about last night... we almost inadvertly got a honest answer which may have helped people make up their minds.... | |||
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He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not. "yes it does actually I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote. I am Irish just like Bob. | |||
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"They are criminals involved in a muti-million pound crime as convicted in a British court. They are not "poor fisherman" That's your opinion" No Colgate, SandB15 are making a statement of fact. | |||
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He's what's called a westbrit"He's what's called a person with a view just like everyone else here. | |||
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"Amusing. Especially as even many UKIP supporters view farage as dodgy beyond belief. But childish. I'm not feeling sorry for him(not sure even his ma would), but I think Geldof's and Izzard's embarrassing attempts to 'bring him down' were not very well thought out. Well. Izzard had a point but went OTT on QT, and Geldof had a great series of points but undermined it via the wanker gestures. Still, if someone's racist(or pretends to be racist to gain popular support and get back into the Tory party at a higher level after forcing it to become more right wing)therey're usually beyond hope of seeing the error of their ways, so childish ridicule may not be very helpful in changing waverers' minds but hell, sure is succinct. Gove gave a scarily 'good' and patronising performance last night too if anyone saw it?" I had to take a shower after watching Gove last night. I felt dirty. | |||
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He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not. "How ignorant of you. If your ignoring the facts it's quite easy to guess which way your voting. | |||
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He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
yes it does actually
I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote.
I am Irish just like Bob."He also doesn't live or pay tax in the uk so his opinion matters not. | |||
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He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
yes it does actually
I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote.
I am Irish just like Bob.
He also doesn't live or pay tax in the uk so his opinion matters not. "You are saying that he has NEVER paid tax in this country? | |||
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He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
How ignorant of you. If your ignoring the facts it's quite easy to guess which way your voting. "How is this ignorant and what facts am I ignoring ? He is not legible to vote, he dodges paying tax here, he's non domicile. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
How ignorant of you. If your ignoring the facts it's quite easy to guess which way your voting.
How is this ignorant and what facts am I ignoring ?
He is not legible to vote, he dodges paying tax here, he's non domicile. "but HE IS allowed to vote because he has lived here for many, many years including paying tax! | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
yes it does actually
I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote.
I am Irish just like Bob.
He also doesn't live or pay tax in the uk so his opinion matters not.
You are saying that he has NEVER paid tax in this country?
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He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
yes it does actually
I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote.
I am Irish just like Bob.
He also doesn't live or pay tax in the uk so his opinion matters not. "Have you told all the ex pats who wish they could vote the same thing? | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
How ignorant of you. If your ignoring the facts it's quite easy to guess which way your voting.
How is this ignorant and what facts am I ignoring ?
He is not legible to vote, he dodges paying tax here, he's non domicile. "He's not dodging tax, in fact he was an Irish immigrant who came to the UK paid a shed load of tax then decided to move on. Bet the fact an immigrant paid tax here is also enough to blow your mind. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
yes it does actually
I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote.
I am Irish just like Bob.
He also doesn't live or pay tax in the uk so his opinion matters not.
You are saying that he has NEVER paid tax in this country?
No, I am saying he has chosen to take his citizenship elsewhere to avoid paying tax in this country so is therefore illegible to vote. "I really want to see evidence of this. Truth. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
yes it does actually
I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote.
I am Irish just like Bob.
He also doesn't live or pay tax in the uk so his opinion matters not.
You are saying that he has NEVER paid tax in this country?
No, I am saying he has chosen to take his citizenship elsewhere to avoid paying tax in this country so is therefore illegible to vote.
I really want to see evidence of this.
Truth."Your just asked a brexiter for solid evidence to back up what they saying!! Good luck with that
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
How ignorant of you. If your ignoring the facts it's quite easy to guess which way your voting.
How is this ignorant and what facts am I ignoring ?
He is not legible to vote, he dodges paying tax here, he's non domicile.
He's not dodging tax, in fact he was an Irish immigrant who came to the UK paid a shed load of tax then decided to move on.
Bet the fact an immigrant paid tax here is also enough to blow your mind. "I'm Irish , I pay tax here. I haven't moved on I can vote. He has dodged millions of pounds worth of tax. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
How ignorant of you. If your ignoring the facts it's quite easy to guess which way your voting.
How is this ignorant and what facts am I ignoring ?
He is not legible to vote, he dodges paying tax here, he's non domicile.
He's not dodging tax, in fact he was an Irish immigrant who came to the UK paid a shed load of tax then decided to move on.
Bet the fact an immigrant paid tax here is also enough to blow your mind.
I'm Irish ,
I pay tax here.
I haven't moved on
I can vote.
He has dodged millions of pounds worth of tax. "Take it up with Bob yourself. I dare you. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
yes it does actually
I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote.
I am Irish just like Bob.
He also doesn't live or pay tax in the uk so his opinion matters not.
You are saying that he has NEVER paid tax in this country?
No, I am saying he has chosen to take his citizenship elsewhere to avoid paying tax in this country so is therefore illegible to vote.
I really want to see evidence of this.
Truth.
Your just asked a brexiter for solid evidence to back up what they saying!! Good luck with that
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
How ignorant of you. If your ignoring the facts it's quite easy to guess which way your voting.
How is this ignorant and what facts am I ignoring ?
He is not legible to vote, he dodges paying tax here, he's non domicile.
He's not dodging tax, in fact he was an Irish immigrant who came to the UK paid a shed load of tax then decided to move on.
Bet the fact an immigrant paid tax here is also enough to blow your mind.
I'm Irish ,
I pay tax here.
I haven't moved on
I can vote.
He has dodged millions of pounds worth of tax.
Take it up with Bob yourself.
I dare you."The last reporter to do this was abused by St Bob so I'd rather not thanks. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
How ignorant of you. If your ignoring the facts it's quite easy to guess which way your voting.
How is this ignorant and what facts am I ignoring ?
He is not legible to vote, he dodges paying tax here, he's non domicile.
He's not dodging tax, in fact he was an Irish immigrant who came to the UK paid a shed load of tax then decided to move on.
Bet the fact an immigrant paid tax here is also enough to blow your mind.
I'm Irish ,
I pay tax here.
I haven't moved on
I can vote.
He has dodged millions of pounds worth of tax. "God give me strength. How has he?? He doesn't live here, he wasn't born here. If anyone should have a tax avoidance issue it should be the Irish kicking off at us for taking their tax not the other way around. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
yes it does actually
I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote.
I am Irish just like Bob.
He also doesn't live or pay tax in the uk so his opinion matters not.
You are saying that he has NEVER paid tax in this country?
No, I am saying he has chosen to take his citizenship elsewhere to avoid paying tax in this country so is therefore illegible to vote.
I really want to see evidence of this.
Truth.
Your just asked a brexiter for solid evidence to back up what they saying!! Good luck with that
I have given no indication of how I am voting. "You don't need too. Stereotypes sometimes ring true I'm afraid. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
How ignorant of you. If your ignoring the facts it's quite easy to guess which way your voting.
How is this ignorant and what facts am I ignoring ?
He is not legible to vote, he dodges paying tax here, he's non domicile.
He's not dodging tax, in fact he was an Irish immigrant who came to the UK paid a shed load of tax then decided to move on.
Bet the fact an immigrant paid tax here is also enough to blow your mind.
I'm Irish ,
I pay tax here.
I haven't moved on
I can vote.
He has dodged millions of pounds worth of tax.
Take it up with Bob yourself.
I dare you.
The last reporter to do this was abused by St Bob so I'd rather not thanks. "and WHY do you think that was the case? carry on with your silliness, the fact of the matter is when Bob was raising milions for starving children he was the best, now he is being berated for moving on???? | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
yes it does actually
I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote.
I am Irish just like Bob.
He also doesn't live or pay tax in the uk so his opinion matters not.
You are saying that he has NEVER paid tax in this country?
No, I am saying he has chosen to take his citizenship elsewhere to avoid paying tax in this country so is therefore illegible to vote.
I really want to see evidence of this.
Truth."I'm unsure of what links I can post so this is a quote from the Tax Research UK website. . . . BOB GELDOF lashed out at a reporter this week after he was asked about his tax arrangements, bizarrely demanding to know how many irrigation ditches her salary had built. Geldof, who was in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa for the World Economic Forum, was interviewed by Times journalist Lucy Bannerman. Their encounter appeared to go very well at first, with Geldof talking about the huge changes that have taken place in Africa since Live Aid in 1985. Then Bannerman asked him about his tax status. After confirming that he is a non-dom and can legally avoid income and capital gains tax on international earnings, Geldof laughed off the Sunday Times Rich List estimate of his worth (£32 million). When pressed on how much tax he actually paid – the justification for the question being because his big idea, aid, can come from taxes – Geldof exploded. “I pay all my taxes,” he shouted. “My time? Is that not a tax? I employ 500 people. I have created business for the UK government. I have given my ideas. I have given half my life to this.” In a bizarre, heated exchange Geldof jabbed his finger repeatedly at Bannerman and demanded to know how many irrigation ditches she had built with her salary. The tirade ended with Geldof yelling: “How dare you lecture me about morals”, before being led away by his entourage. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
yes it does actually
I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote.
I am Irish just like Bob.
He also doesn't live or pay tax in the uk so his opinion matters not.
You are saying that he has NEVER paid tax in this country?
No, I am saying he has chosen to take his citizenship elsewhere to avoid paying tax in this country so is therefore illegible to vote.
I really want to see evidence of this.
Truth.
Your just asked a brexiter for solid evidence to back up what they saying!! Good luck with that
I have given no indication of how I am voting.
You don't need too. Stereotypes sometimes ring true I'm afraid. "Which stereotype is that ? You have assumed I don't like immigrants when in fact I am one, what else are you assuming about me ? | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
How ignorant of you. If your ignoring the facts it's quite easy to guess which way your voting.
How is this ignorant and what facts am I ignoring ?
He is not legible to vote, he dodges paying tax here, he's non domicile.
He's not dodging tax, in fact he was an Irish immigrant who came to the UK paid a shed load of tax then decided to move on.
Bet the fact an immigrant paid tax here is also enough to blow your mind.
I'm Irish ,
I pay tax here.
I haven't moved on
I can vote.
He has dodged millions of pounds worth of tax.
God give me strength.
How has he?? He doesn't live here, he wasn't born here. If anyone should have a tax avoidance issue it should be the Irish kicking off at us for taking their tax not the other way around. "This is exactly what I said above and you criticised me for it. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
yes it does actually
I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote.
I am Irish just like Bob.
He also doesn't live or pay tax in the uk so his opinion matters not.
You are saying that he has NEVER paid tax in this country?
No, I am saying he has chosen to take his citizenship elsewhere to avoid paying tax in this country so is therefore illegible to vote.
I really want to see evidence of this.
Truth.
I'm unsure of what links I can post so this is a quote from the Tax Research UK website.
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BOB GELDOF lashed out at a reporter this week after he was asked about his tax arrangements, bizarrely demanding to know how many irrigation ditches her salary had built.
Geldof, who was in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa for the World Economic Forum, was interviewed by Times journalist Lucy Bannerman. Their encounter appeared to go very well at first, with Geldof talking about the huge changes that have taken place in Africa since Live Aid in 1985.
Then Bannerman asked him about his tax status. After confirming that he is a non-dom and can legally avoid income and capital gains tax on international earnings, Geldof laughed off the Sunday Times Rich List estimate of his worth (£32 million).
When pressed on how much tax he actually paid – the justification for the question being because his big idea, aid, can come from taxes – Geldof exploded.
“I pay all my taxes,” he shouted. “My time? Is that not a tax? I employ 500 people. I have created business for the UK government. I have given my ideas. I have given half my life to this.”
In a bizarre, heated exchange Geldof jabbed his finger repeatedly at Bannerman and demanded to know how many irrigation ditches she had built with her salary.
The tirade ended with Geldof yelling: “How dare you lecture me about morals”, before being led away by his entourage."I truly see nothing wrong with that. I wouldn't give a second of my time to journos! He is right, he has given years of his life to this country and to the poor. How come he is under the microscope when you have worms of politicians running this country with zero morals. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
yes it does actually
I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote.
I am Irish just like Bob.
He also doesn't live or pay tax in the uk so his opinion matters not.
You are saying that he has NEVER paid tax in this country?
No, I am saying he has chosen to take his citizenship elsewhere to avoid paying tax in this country so is therefore illegible to vote.
I really want to see evidence of this.
Truth.
Your just asked a brexiter for solid evidence to back up what they saying!! Good luck with that
I have given no indication of how I am voting.
You don't need too. Stereotypes sometimes ring true I'm afraid.
Which stereotype is that ?
You have assumed I don't like immigrants when in fact I am one, what else are you assuming about me ?"Tell me I'm wrong then? So who you voting for?? Also are you ashamed of been a tax avoider? I mean your clearly avoiding tax in Ireland. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
How ignorant of you. If your ignoring the facts it's quite easy to guess which way your voting.
How is this ignorant and what facts am I ignoring ?
He is not legible to vote, he dodges paying tax here, he's non domicile.
He's not dodging tax, in fact he was an Irish immigrant who came to the UK paid a shed load of tax then decided to move on.
Bet the fact an immigrant paid tax here is also enough to blow your mind.
I'm Irish ,
I pay tax here.
I haven't moved on
I can vote.
He has dodged millions of pounds worth of tax.
Take it up with Bob yourself.
I dare you.
The last reporter to do this was abused by St Bob so I'd rather not thanks.
and WHY do you think that was the case?
carry on with your silliness, the fact of the matter is when Bob was raising milions for starving children he was the best, now he is being berated for moving on????". . From the London business school website . . . There is also the argument that to defend one’s tax avoidance in terms of one’s other charitable commitments ignores the knock-on effect a few individuals avoiding tax has, especially when such offenders are so prominent in the public’s eye. Indeed, a celebrity who avoids tax but who “does charity work only serves to soften the moral revulsion we feel about the practise of tax avoidance. They create a compartmentalisation of one’s duties, making it appear fine to practise something entirely incongruent with their charitable endeavours. This in turn reduces our outcry in the more severe cases of multinationals avoiding tax, such as the case of ABF, whose produce we still readily buy. If Bob Geldof really wants to help the developing world, he should use his platform to lobby businesses to pay their corporation tax. Defending tax avoidance through his indifferent practice of it and his rubbishing of its criticism on live TV, is two steps backwards and one step forward for his campaign. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
yes it does actually
I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote.
I am Irish just like Bob.
He also doesn't live or pay tax in the uk so his opinion matters not.
You are saying that he has NEVER paid tax in this country?
No, I am saying he has chosen to take his citizenship elsewhere to avoid paying tax in this country so is therefore illegible to vote.
I really want to see evidence of this.
Truth.
Your just asked a brexiter for solid evidence to back up what they saying!! Good luck with that
I have given no indication of how I am voting.
You don't need too. Stereotypes sometimes ring true I'm afraid.
Which stereotype is that ?
You have assumed I don't like immigrants when in fact I am one, what else are you assuming about me ?
Tell me I'm wrong then? So who you voting for??
Also are you ashamed of been a tax avoider? I mean your clearly avoiding tax in Ireland. "See, another assumption, you have no idea of my tax affaires and don't know if I pay tax in Ireland or not. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
How ignorant of you. If your ignoring the facts it's quite easy to guess which way your voting.
How is this ignorant and what facts am I ignoring ?
He is not legible to vote, he dodges paying tax here, he's non domicile.
He's not dodging tax, in fact he was an Irish immigrant who came to the UK paid a shed load of tax then decided to move on.
Bet the fact an immigrant paid tax here is also enough to blow your mind.
I'm Irish ,
I pay tax here.
I haven't moved on
I can vote.
He has dodged millions of pounds worth of tax.
God give me strength.
How has he?? He doesn't live here, he wasn't born here. If anyone should have a tax avoidance issue it should be the Irish kicking off at us for taking their tax not the other way around.
This is exactly what I said above and you criticised me for it. "No its not. You said he was dodging tax here and he shouldn't be able to vote because of it. You find me a single glazed millionaire in this country who has paid the correct tax, they don't exist. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
How ignorant of you. If your ignoring the facts it's quite easy to guess which way your voting.
How is this ignorant and what facts am I ignoring ?
He is not legible to vote, he dodges paying tax here, he's non domicile.
He's not dodging tax, in fact he was an Irish immigrant who came to the UK paid a shed load of tax then decided to move on.
Bet the fact an immigrant paid tax here is also enough to blow your mind.
I'm Irish ,
I pay tax here.
I haven't moved on
I can vote.
He has dodged millions of pounds worth of tax.
Take it up with Bob yourself.
I dare you.
The last reporter to do this was abused by St Bob so I'd rather not thanks.
and WHY do you think that was the case?
carry on with your silliness, the fact of the matter is when Bob was raising milions for starving children he was the best, now he is being berated for moving on????
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There is also the argument that to defend one’s tax avoidance in terms of one’s other charitable commitments ignores the knock-on effect a few individuals avoiding tax has, especially when such offenders are so prominent in the public’s eye. Indeed, a celebrity who avoids tax but who “does charity work only serves to soften the moral revulsion we feel about the practise of tax avoidance. They create a compartmentalisation of one’s duties, making it appear fine to practise something entirely incongruent with their charitable endeavours. This in turn reduces our outcry in the more severe cases of multinationals avoiding tax, such as the case of ABF, whose produce we still readily buy.
If Bob Geldof really wants to help the developing world, he should use his platform to lobby businesses to pay their corporation tax. Defending tax avoidance through his indifferent practice of it and his rubbishing of its criticism on live TV, is two steps backwards and one step forward for his campaign."Did you read this before copy and pasting it? Why is it up to Bob to get the rich corps to pay their taxes? Isn't that the governments job? | |||
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"One of the latest ploys - a film-financing wheeze judged by HMRC not to be a legitimate investment opportunity but actually a way of reducing tax - disclosed an A-list of dishonour, taking in such luminaries as Bob Geldof, Gary Lineker, Ant and Dec, Wayne Rooney, Anne Robinson, Victoria Beckham ... In total about 1,000 names had signed up. They were asked to repay up to an eye-watering collective £1bn in tax relief immediately, ahead of the scheme being tested by a specialist tribunal . There is, though, more to our anger than that. We can't abide hypocrites. So when a goody-two-shoes celeb, a Bono (U2's publishing arm is resident in the Netherlands for tax purposes) or a Bob Geldof, is shown to have shielded his wealth from the tax authorities we go especially mad . These are tough times, where heavy cuts to public services are being executed and folk are losing their jobs. This is also a period of gross inequality. The sums that stars are earning, the vast bonuses paid to City bosses and bankers, have got so large they're beyond the ken of the rest of us - and, worse, some of them want even more by not paying their taxes " And this I think is the problem - people see the referendum as just another protest vote to display their discontentment. They are different matters and shouldn't be related, but even the most vocal Brexiters here can't distinguish between them. | |||
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"I'll bet Geldoffs efforts pale into insignificance when compared to all the money raised by those criticising him in this thread. I don't particularly like him but for fucks sake people, at least give some credit where it's due. " Ok. Where is the greatest famine currently in the world? I'll give you a clue, in 1985 Bob raised money for a famine in this country. Correct, its Ethiopia. Bob and his chums got us to raise millions, and in doing so they were sanctified by the world's press. They then fucked off, and left the job half done, and most of the money we raised was either paid out in bribes, stolen, or wasted. We'll done Bob. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
yes it does actually
I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote.
I am Irish just like Bob.
He also doesn't live or pay tax in the uk so his opinion matters not.
You are saying that he has NEVER paid tax in this country?
No, I am saying he has chosen to take his citizenship elsewhere to avoid paying tax in this country so is therefore illegible to vote.
I really want to see evidence of this.
Truth.
Your just asked a brexiter for solid evidence to back up what they saying!! Good luck with that
I have given no indication of how I am voting.
You don't need too. Stereotypes sometimes ring true I'm afraid.
Which stereotype is that ?
You have assumed I don't like immigrants when in fact I am one, what else are you assuming about me ?
Tell me I'm wrong then? So who you voting for??
Also are you ashamed of been a tax avoider? I mean your clearly avoiding tax in Ireland.
See, another assumption, you have no idea of my tax affaires and don't know if I pay tax in Ireland or not. "And you don't know what Geldof pays, yet that's gives you the right to judge him and not be judged yourself? | |||
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"well he did kinda have a point in that if nigel farage had actually been to some of those common fisheries policy meetings that he was suppose to as a member on that committee... he might have a better understanding of how it worked..... protest... counter-protest and all that.... As a former member of a local fisheries committee I can assure you that attendance is nothing more than a sop to democracy and an expenses earner, absolutely nothing more. Farage is right when he says that attendance was useless and achieved nothing. In over five years that I was a member we did nothing other than rubber stamp Brussels directives. The one time we tried to actually change something (the banning of chain matrix) we were shot down in flames by the EU (via MAFF)" Hotlovefun42 seems the only poster on here who actually knows what he's talking about because they were involved in the what Farage was highlighting, but gets ignored and other posters spout their own opinions as fact  | |||
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"I'll bet Geldoffs efforts pale into insignificance when compared to all the money raised by those criticising him in this thread. I don't particularly like him but for fucks sake people, at least give some credit where it's due. Ok. Where is the greatest famine currently in the world? I'll give you a clue, in 1985 Bob raised money for a famine in this country. Correct, its Ethiopia. Bob and his chums got us to raise millions, and in doing so they were sanctified by the world's press. They then fucked off, and left the job half done, and most of the money we raised was either paid out in bribes, stolen, or wasted. We'll done Bob. "GO out and fix it then. It wasn't his fault the despots stole left right and centre! | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
yes it does actually
I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote.
I am Irish just like Bob.
He also doesn't live or pay tax in the uk so his opinion matters not.
You are saying that he has NEVER paid tax in this country?
No, I am saying he has chosen to take his citizenship elsewhere to avoid paying tax in this country so is therefore illegible to vote.
I really want to see evidence of this.
Truth.
Your just asked a brexiter for solid evidence to back up what they saying!! Good luck with that
I have given no indication of how I am voting.
You don't need too. Stereotypes sometimes ring true I'm afraid.
Which stereotype is that ?
You have assumed I don't like immigrants when in fact I am one, what else are you assuming about me ?
Tell me I'm wrong then? So who you voting for??
Also are you ashamed of been a tax avoider? I mean your clearly avoiding tax in Ireland.
See, another assumption, you have no idea of my tax affaires and don't know if I pay tax in Ireland or not.
And you don't know what Geldof pays, yet that's gives you the right to judge him and not be judged yourself? "very good Mr and Mrs Polk, maybe we should put you under the same scrutiny? what if YOU are avoiding paying tax? *sharp intake of breath* | |||
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"well he did kinda have a point in that if nigel farage had actually been to some of those common fisheries policy meetings that he was suppose to as a member on that committee... he might have a better understanding of how it worked..... protest... counter-protest and all that.... As a former member of a local fisheries committee I can assure you that attendance is nothing more than a sop to democracy and an expenses earner, absolutely nothing more. Farage is right when he says that attendance was useless and achieved nothing. In over five years that I was a member we did nothing other than rubber stamp Brussels directives. The one time we tried to actually change something (the banning of chain matrix) we were shot down in flames by the EU (via MAFF) Hotlovefun42 seems the only poster on here who actually knows what he's talking about because they were involved in the what Farage was highlighting, but gets ignored and other posters spout their own opinions as fact "In your opinion. | |||
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"When his daughter peaches was alive she said her dad never went to see her, saying it was his loss." and now we are delving into his life, his personal life. I am out. This is yuck. | |||
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"well he did kinda have a point in that if nigel farage had actually been to some of those common fisheries policy meetings that he was suppose to as a member on that committee... he might have a better understanding of how it worked..... protest... counter-protest and all that.... As a former member of a local fisheries committee I can assure you that attendance is nothing more than a sop to democracy and an expenses earner, absolutely nothing more. Farage is right when he says that attendance was useless and achieved nothing. In over five years that I was a member we did nothing other than rubber stamp Brussels directives. The one time we tried to actually change something (the banning of chain matrix) we were shot down in flames by the EU (via MAFF) Hotlovefun42 seems the only poster on here who actually knows what he's talking about because they were involved in the what Farage was highlighting, but gets ignored and other posters spout their own opinions as fact "I think what passes for debate here is ridiculous. People take entrenched sides and then it's a case of who can shout loudest. Nobody ever acknowledges the other might have a point and never accepts they might be wrong. To my mind, most speak bollocks 90% of the time. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
How ignorant of you. If your ignoring the facts it's quite easy to guess which way your voting.
How is this ignorant and what facts am I ignoring ?
He is not legible to vote, he dodges paying tax here, he's non domicile.
He's not dodging tax, in fact he was an Irish immigrant who came to the UK paid a shed load of tax then decided to move on.
Bet the fact an immigrant paid tax here is also enough to blow your mind.
I'm Irish ,
I pay tax here.
I haven't moved on
I can vote.
He has dodged millions of pounds worth of tax.
Take it up with Bob yourself.
I dare you.
The last reporter to do this was abused by St Bob so I'd rather not thanks.
and WHY do you think that was the case?
carry on with your silliness, the fact of the matter is when Bob was raising milions for starving children he was the best, now he is being berated for moving on????
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From the London business school website
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There is also the argument that to defend one’s tax avoidance in terms of one’s other charitable commitments ignores the knock-on effect a few individuals avoiding tax has, especially when such offenders are so prominent in the public’s eye. Indeed, a celebrity who avoids tax but who “does charity work only serves to soften the moral revulsion we feel about the practise of tax avoidance. They create a compartmentalisation of one’s duties, making it appear fine to practise something entirely incongruent with their charitable endeavours. This in turn reduces our outcry in the more severe cases of multinationals avoiding tax, such as the case of ABF, whose produce we still readily buy.
If Bob Geldof really wants to help the developing world, he should use his platform to lobby businesses to pay their corporation tax. Defending tax avoidance through his indifferent practice of it and his rubbishing of its criticism on live TV, is two steps backwards and one step forward for his campaign.
Did you read this before copy and pasting it?
Why is it up to Bob to get the rich corps to pay their taxes?
Isn't that the governments job?
"Did you read it before replying ? It says if he wants to help the developing world he should lobby rich corps to pay the appropriate taxes, but he can't as he is head of a rich Corp that avoids paying taxes. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
How ignorant of you. If your ignoring the facts it's quite easy to guess which way your voting.
How is this ignorant and what facts am I ignoring ?
He is not legible to vote, he dodges paying tax here, he's non domicile.
He's not dodging tax, in fact he was an Irish immigrant who came to the UK paid a shed load of tax then decided to move on.
Bet the fact an immigrant paid tax here is also enough to blow your mind.
I'm Irish ,
I pay tax here.
I haven't moved on
I can vote.
He has dodged millions of pounds worth of tax.
Take it up with Bob yourself.
I dare you.
The last reporter to do this was abused by St Bob so I'd rather not thanks.
and WHY do you think that was the case?
carry on with your silliness, the fact of the matter is when Bob was raising milions for starving children he was the best, now he is being berated for moving on????
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From the London business school website
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There is also the argument that to defend one’s tax avoidance in terms of one’s other charitable commitments ignores the knock-on effect a few individuals avoiding tax has, especially when such offenders are so prominent in the public’s eye. Indeed, a celebrity who avoids tax but who “does charity work only serves to soften the moral revulsion we feel about the practise of tax avoidance. They create a compartmentalisation of one’s duties, making it appear fine to practise something entirely incongruent with their charitable endeavours. This in turn reduces our outcry in the more severe cases of multinationals avoiding tax, such as the case of ABF, whose produce we still readily buy.
If Bob Geldof really wants to help the developing world, he should use his platform to lobby businesses to pay their corporation tax. Defending tax avoidance through his indifferent practice of it and his rubbishing of its criticism on live TV, is two steps backwards and one step forward for his campaign.
Did you read this before copy and pasting it?
Why is it up to Bob to get the rich corps to pay their taxes?
Isn't that the governments job?
Did you read it before replying ?
It says if he wants to help the developing world he should lobby rich corps to pay the appropriate taxes, but he can't as he is head of a rich Corp that avoids paying taxes. "Again, fine one a single large company in this country who do not flaunt the tax rules. He doesn't avoid them he uses the rules to manipulate the amount paid, like all large corporations. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
yes it does actually
I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote.
I am Irish just like Bob.
He also doesn't live or pay tax in the uk so his opinion matters not.
You are saying that he has NEVER paid tax in this country?
No, I am saying he has chosen to take his citizenship elsewhere to avoid paying tax in this country so is therefore illegible to vote.
I really want to see evidence of this.
Truth.
Your just asked a brexiter for solid evidence to back up what they saying!! Good luck with that
I have given no indication of how I am voting.
You don't need too. Stereotypes sometimes ring true I'm afraid.
Which stereotype is that ?
You have assumed I don't like immigrants when in fact I am one, what else are you assuming about me ?
Tell me I'm wrong then? So who you voting for??
Also are you ashamed of been a tax avoider? I mean your clearly avoiding tax in Ireland.
See, another assumption, you have no idea of my tax affaires and don't know if I pay tax in Ireland or not.
And you don't know what Geldof pays, yet that's gives you the right to judge him and not be judged yourself? "But we know what Bob doesn't pay. You can judge me all you like, I care not a jot. But Bob gets very upset if you judge him. But if someone avoids their tax duties then goes on to lecture others about their lack of charity then don't you think they deserve to be judged ? | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
How ignorant of you. If your ignoring the facts it's quite easy to guess which way your voting.
How is this ignorant and what facts am I ignoring ?
He is not legible to vote, he dodges paying tax here, he's non domicile.
He's not dodging tax, in fact he was an Irish immigrant who came to the UK paid a shed load of tax then decided to move on.
Bet the fact an immigrant paid tax here is also enough to blow your mind.
I'm Irish ,
I pay tax here.
I haven't moved on
I can vote.
He has dodged millions of pounds worth of tax.
Take it up with Bob yourself.
I dare you.
The last reporter to do this was abused by St Bob so I'd rather not thanks.
and WHY do you think that was the case?
carry on with your silliness, the fact of the matter is when Bob was raising milions for starving children he was the best, now he is being berated for moving on????
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From the London business school website
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There is also the argument that to defend one’s tax avoidance in terms of one’s other charitable commitments ignores the knock-on effect a few individuals avoiding tax has, especially when such offenders are so prominent in the public’s eye. Indeed, a celebrity who avoids tax but who “does charity work only serves to soften the moral revulsion we feel about the practise of tax avoidance. They create a compartmentalisation of one’s duties, making it appear fine to practise something entirely incongruent with their charitable endeavours. This in turn reduces our outcry in the more severe cases of multinationals avoiding tax, such as the case of ABF, whose produce we still readily buy.
If Bob Geldof really wants to help the developing world, he should use his platform to lobby businesses to pay their corporation tax. Defending tax avoidance through his indifferent practice of it and his rubbishing of its criticism on live TV, is two steps backwards and one step forward for his campaign.
Did you read this before copy and pasting it?
Why is it up to Bob to get the rich corps to pay their taxes?
Isn't that the governments job?
Did you read it before replying ?
It says if he wants to help the developing world he should lobby rich corps to pay the appropriate taxes, but he can't as he is head of a rich Corp that avoids paying taxes.
Again, fine one a single large company in this country who do not flaunt the tax rules. He doesn't avoid them he uses the rules to manipulate the amount paid, like all large corporations. "Wow. A man who preaches about poverty but who avoids paying tax that would go some way to lessen that poverty is OK by you because everyone else does it ? | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
yes it does actually
I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote.
I am Irish just like Bob.
He also doesn't live or pay tax in the uk so his opinion matters not.
You are saying that he has NEVER paid tax in this country?
No, I am saying he has chosen to take his citizenship elsewhere to avoid paying tax in this country so is therefore illegible to vote.
I really want to see evidence of this.
Truth.
Your just asked a brexiter for solid evidence to back up what they saying!! Good luck with that
I have given no indication of how I am voting.
You don't need too. Stereotypes sometimes ring true I'm afraid.
Which stereotype is that ?
You have assumed I don't like immigrants when in fact I am one, what else are you assuming about me ?
Tell me I'm wrong then? So who you voting for??
Also are you ashamed of been a tax avoider? I mean your clearly avoiding tax in Ireland.
See, another assumption, you have no idea of my tax affaires and don't know if I pay tax in Ireland or not.
And you don't know what Geldof pays, yet that's gives you the right to judge him and not be judged yourself?
But we know what Bob doesn't pay.
You can judge me all you like, I care not a jot. But Bob gets very upset if you judge him.
But if someone avoids their tax duties then goes on to lecture others about their lack of charity then don't you think they deserve to be judged ?"Again he hasn't avoided tax, he has done exactly probably what your boss/owner of firm does and bends the rules to pay the minimum allowed. Go and confront the owner of your firm with this attitude and I bet he snaps too. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
How ignorant of you. If your ignoring the facts it's quite easy to guess which way your voting.
How is this ignorant and what facts am I ignoring ?
He is not legible to vote, he dodges paying tax here, he's non domicile.
He's not dodging tax, in fact he was an Irish immigrant who came to the UK paid a shed load of tax then decided to move on.
Bet the fact an immigrant paid tax here is also enough to blow your mind.
I'm Irish ,
I pay tax here.
I haven't moved on
I can vote.
He has dodged millions of pounds worth of tax.
Take it up with Bob yourself.
I dare you.
The last reporter to do this was abused by St Bob so I'd rather not thanks.
and WHY do you think that was the case?
carry on with your silliness, the fact of the matter is when Bob was raising milions for starving children he was the best, now he is being berated for moving on????
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From the London business school website
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There is also the argument that to defend one’s tax avoidance in terms of one’s other charitable commitments ignores the knock-on effect a few individuals avoiding tax has, especially when such offenders are so prominent in the public’s eye. Indeed, a celebrity who avoids tax but who “does charity work only serves to soften the moral revulsion we feel about the practise of tax avoidance. They create a compartmentalisation of one’s duties, making it appear fine to practise something entirely incongruent with their charitable endeavours. This in turn reduces our outcry in the more severe cases of multinationals avoiding tax, such as the case of ABF, whose produce we still readily buy.
If Bob Geldof really wants to help the developing world, he should use his platform to lobby businesses to pay their corporation tax. Defending tax avoidance through his indifferent practice of it and his rubbishing of its criticism on live TV, is two steps backwards and one step forward for his campaign.
Did you read this before copy and pasting it?
Why is it up to Bob to get the rich corps to pay their taxes?
Isn't that the governments job?
Did you read it before replying ?
It says if he wants to help the developing world he should lobby rich corps to pay the appropriate taxes, but he can't as he is head of a rich Corp that avoids paying taxes.
Again, fine one a single large company in this country who do not flaunt the tax rules. He doesn't avoid them he uses the rules to manipulate the amount paid, like all large corporations.
Wow.
A man who preaches about poverty but who avoids paying tax that would go some way to lessen that poverty is OK by you because everyone else does it ?
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"well he did kinda have a point in that if nigel farage had actually been to some of those common fisheries policy meetings that he was suppose to as a member on that committee... he might have a better understanding of how it worked..... protest... counter-protest and all that.... As a former member of a local fisheries committee I can assure you that attendance is nothing more than a sop to democracy and an expenses earner, absolutely nothing more. Farage is right when he says that attendance was useless and achieved nothing. In over five years that I was a member we did nothing other than rubber stamp Brussels directives. The one time we tried to actually change something (the banning of chain matrix) we were shot down in flames by the EU (via MAFF) Hotlovefun42 seems the only poster on here who actually knows what he's talking about because they were involved in the what Farage was highlighting, but gets ignored and other posters spout their own opinions as fact "True. Except if I gor elected to do a job and didn't turn up to more than 2%ish of the meetings just because I thought it was a 'waste of time' I think I'd be sacked for not fulfilling the job description, or would die of embarrassment for not representing the people who decided to vote for me to, er, represent them. A facile argument. Yeah. I'll get elected and then fuck off to my flat in Brussels and stick my fingers in my ears. ANd Farage had the audaicty to complain about bureaucrats and the gravy train...! Pot.Kettle.Black. He's obviously never heard of irony. | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
yes it does actually
I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote.
I am Irish just like Bob.
He also doesn't live or pay tax in the uk so his opinion matters not.
You are saying that he has NEVER paid tax in this country?
No, I am saying he has chosen to take his citizenship elsewhere to avoid paying tax in this country so is therefore illegible to vote.
I really want to see evidence of this.
Truth.
Your just asked a brexiter for solid evidence to back up what they saying!! Good luck with that
I have given no indication of how I am voting.
You don't need too. Stereotypes sometimes ring true I'm afraid.
Which stereotype is that ?
You have assumed I don't like immigrants when in fact I am one, what else are you assuming about me ?
Tell me I'm wrong then? So who you voting for??
Also are you ashamed of been a tax avoider? I mean your clearly avoiding tax in Ireland.
See, another assumption, you have no idea of my tax affaires and don't know if I pay tax in Ireland or not.
And you don't know what Geldof pays, yet that's gives you the right to judge him and not be judged yourself?
But we know what Bob doesn't pay.
You can judge me all you like, I care not a jot. But Bob gets very upset if you judge him.
But if someone avoids their tax duties then goes on to lecture others about their lack of charity then don't you think they deserve to be judged ?
Again he hasn't avoided tax, he has done exactly probably what your boss/owner of firm does and bends the rules to pay the minimum allowed. Go and confront the owner of your firm with this attitude and I bet he snaps too. "I do not have a boss, I do not work for a firm | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
yes it does actually
I am not from the U.K. and am allowed to vote.
I am Irish just like Bob.
He also doesn't live or pay tax in the uk so his opinion matters not.
You are saying that he has NEVER paid tax in this country?
No, I am saying he has chosen to take his citizenship elsewhere to avoid paying tax in this country so is therefore illegible to vote.
I really want to see evidence of this.
Truth.
Your just asked a brexiter for solid evidence to back up what they saying!! Good luck with that
I have given no indication of how I am voting.
You don't need too. Stereotypes sometimes ring true I'm afraid.
Which stereotype is that ?
You have assumed I don't like immigrants when in fact I am one, what else are you assuming about me ?
Tell me I'm wrong then? So who you voting for??
Also are you ashamed of been a tax avoider? I mean your clearly avoiding tax in Ireland.
See, another assumption, you have no idea of my tax affaires and don't know if I pay tax in Ireland or not.
And you don't know what Geldof pays, yet that's gives you the right to judge him and not be judged yourself?
But we know what Bob doesn't pay.
You can judge me all you like, I care not a jot. But Bob gets very upset if you judge him.
But if someone avoids their tax duties then goes on to lecture others about their lack of charity then don't you think they deserve to be judged ?
Again he hasn't avoided tax, he has done exactly probably what your boss/owner of firm does and bends the rules to pay the minimum allowed. Go and confront the owner of your firm with this attitude and I bet he snaps too.
I do not have a boss, I do not work for a firm "Self employed? | |||
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"Farage was on the EU Fisheries Commission and instead of trying to influence policy and assist British fisherman, he only turned up to 1 meeting out of 42.
I will re post my earlier answer to that one.
"As a former member of a local fisheries committee I can assure you that attendance is nothing more than a sop to democracy and an expenses earner, absolutely nothing more.
Farage is right when he says that attendance was useless and achieved nothing.
In over five years that I was a member we did nothing other than rubber stamp Brussels directives. The one time we tried to actually change something (the banning of chain matrix) we were shot down in flames by the EU (via MAFF)"
Farage attended many meetings but eventually gave up (as I did years ago) when he realised the futility of it.
so sad that our fishing industry has fallen to such a low;
in your opinion what would happen to our fishing if we voted leave?"In the short term there would be very little difference and how they would carve it up long term is anybody's guess. Politicians and fisheries just don't mix. However my wish list would be: Impose a 12 mile fishing limit around the British coast. For the pedants the bit of the channel between Dover and Calais would be split evenly. 
An end to the disgraceful quota system that forces fishermen to throw perfectly good fish back into the sea as nothing more than seagull food.
I would certainly take a hard look at seasonal closures of some fishing grounds.
The return of British fishing boats landing fish for local fish markets rather than EU boats landing their catches straight onto trucks at British ports and shipped abroad.
Oh yes and I would ban the use of chain matrix if it hasn't been already, which I doubt but I haven't looked it up for a while.
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"Give him a break he has done good ex wife died and his daughter peaches x" Give us all a break!,we have all got someone in the family who died!,but those connected with Sir Gob committed suicide!,probably trying to get away from him?. | |||
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"Give him a break he has done good ex wife died and his daughter peaches x Give us all a break!,we have all got someone in the family who died!,but those connected with Sir Gob committed suicide!,probably trying to get away from him?." Erm... | |||
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"I'm sure Geldoff would be the salt of the earth if he had been calling for leave
He's not from the UK, his opinion either way matters not.
How ignorant of you. If your ignoring the facts it's quite easy to guess which way your voting.
How is this ignorant and what facts am I ignoring ?
He is not legible to vote, he dodges paying tax here, he's non domicile.
He's not dodging tax, in fact he was an Irish immigrant who came to the UK paid a shed load of tax then decided to move on.
Bet the fact an immigrant paid tax here is also enough to blow your mind.
I'm Irish ,
I pay tax here.
I haven't moved on
I can vote.
He has dodged millions of pounds worth of tax.
Take it up with Bob yourself.
I dare you.
The last reporter to do this was abused by St Bob so I'd rather not thanks.
and WHY do you think that was the case?
carry on with your silliness, the fact of the matter is when Bob was raising milions for starving children he was the best, now he is being berated for moving on????
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There is also the argument that to defend one’s tax avoidance in terms of one’s other charitable commitments ignores the knock-on effect a few individuals avoiding tax has, especially when such offenders are so prominent in the public’s eye. Indeed, a celebrity who avoids tax but who “does charity work only serves to soften the moral revulsion we feel about the practise of tax avoidance. They create a compartmentalisation of one’s duties, making it appear fine to practise something entirely incongruent with their charitable endeavours. This in turn reduces our outcry in the more severe cases of multinationals avoiding tax, such as the case of ABF, whose produce we still readily buy.
If Bob Geldof really wants to help the developing world, he should use his platform to lobby businesses to pay their corporation tax. Defending tax avoidance through his indifferent practice of it and his rubbishing of its criticism on live TV, is two steps backwards and one step forward for his campaign.
Did you read this before copy and pasting it?
Why is it up to Bob to get the rich corps to pay their taxes?
Isn't that the governments job?
Did you read it before replying ?
It says if he wants to help the developing world he should lobby rich corps to pay the appropriate taxes, but he can't as he is head of a rich Corp that avoids paying taxes.
Again, fine one a single large company in this country who do not flaunt the tax rules. He doesn't avoid them he uses the rules to manipulate the amount paid, like all large corporations.
Wow.
A man who preaches about poverty but who avoids paying tax that would go some way to lessen that poverty is OK by you because everyone else does it ?
Are you saying if you could get away with paying less tax you wouldn't? Don't buy that at all. "You shouldn't judge anyone by your obviously low morals. By praising someone for their canniness in avoiding tax just because they can you show what kind of a person you are. I am happy to pay for the NHS , policing , fire service and other organisations from my tax. | |||
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