FabSwingers.com forum: Shoot the alligator?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

2 year old gets dragged into the water in florida theme park,think the safety measures need addressing in american zoo's

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No way ...really

Or do i just believe things to easily

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By *cottSparkMan
over a year ago

Tyldesley, Manchester

Its all over the news

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I should look at the news more instead of being in bed

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I should look at the news more instead of being in bed

Its only just broke tbh but its heartbreaking,they were sat having a picnic and it came out the water and dragged the child in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and seen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very sad, I saw that this morning too.

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By *abes in the woodWoman
over a year ago

wales

I just read it too so sad.

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By *otblondewife hornyMrCouple
over a year ago

Cambuslang

Was it from a zoo? Florida's full of them

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By *TFSeventyMan
over a year ago

Weybridge

"I should look at the news more instead of being in bed

It depends what you are doing in bed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Terrible news,cant imagine what the poor child's parents are going through.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Was it from a zoo? Florida's full of them"

Disney' grand floridian resort & spa,so not a zoo i stand corrected,my apologies

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

I don't understand why how the alligator got in there. Disney are normally shit hot on that kind of thing.

A terrible tragedy for the family

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't understand why how the alligator got in there. Disney are normally shit hot on that kind of thing.

A terrible tragedy for the family "

I agree they are normally really on this kinda of thing as they are every where.. can only think that maybe it was a babe on that got in and possibly been there years and just never been seen till now possible. Xx

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

It's Florida.

There are thousands of Alligators there; and a lot of water .

Florida; Water; Alligators. This wasn't a Zoo. It was a Hotel with a lake/ river. In parkland full of rivers .

Anyone with half a brain knows that there will be a danger from Alligators near almost any stretch of water.

You can only take limited measures to control them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's Florida.

There are thousands of Alligators there; and a lot of water .

Florida; Water; Alligators. This wasn't a Zoo. It was a Hotel with a lake/ river. In parkland full of rivers .

Anyone with half a brain knows that there will be a danger from Alligators near almost any stretch of water.

You can only take limited measures to control them.

It was bound to happen at some point

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Was it part of the theme? I'm in the usa and watching my tracks.

Mad creatures are spreading everywhere, including dangerous snakes that disgusting owners have let loose.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

It was a man made lagoon on Disney property not necessarily a place where you would find gators.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I lived in St Helens there were, briefly, Aligators in the local canal. Along with loads of tropical fish!

I kid you not...Google it if you don't believe me. The authorities had to get them out!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It was a man made lagoon on Disney property not necessarily a place where you would find gators. "

They can walk as well as swim. There would be a gator infested river close by...all rivers in Florida are full of them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It was a man made lagoon on Disney property not necessarily a place where you would find gators. "

I think they're pretty much everywhere in Florida. I've seen them in the back waters of a villa we stayed in years ago.

Some get bought as pets & flushed away down the toliet when no longer wanted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I once watched a game of golf on the TV and the golfer was playing a shot from right close to the water, the commentators were saying he better watch out as there's gators in the water, next thing this gator just popped right out of the water next to the golfer and quick as flash the golfer just whacked it on the head with his 7 iron and it fucked off back in the water, then cool as you like he carried on playing his shot!!.

Needless to say, when they interviewed the golfer afterwards he was Australian

.... Oh yeah mate, it was a bit of a scare but it was only a tiddler so I just gave it a quick whack with the club and carried on....

You got love Aussies

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

I remember reading about colonies of scorpions around London

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

"It was a man made lagoon on Disney property not necessarily a place where you would find gators. "

Very much a place you would find them.

I have been there. It's a huge park. Massive grounds. Lots of water . Several feeder streams . Other lakes nearby.

Even with the fences, grilles, and deterrents and control measures they use , you can't keep them out. They are very strong, but even the big ones can slip through the tiniest of gaps.

My freinds who live in Florida have them wander into the garden regularly .

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"2 year old gets dragged into the water in florida theme park,think the safety measures need addressing in american zoo's "

Just heard this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So extremely sad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In Florida its not uncommon to find one hanging about in your swimming pool. The place is infested with them.

When I was in Mexico you didn't hang about in the evening by the lagoons for this very reason.

Shooting it won't do any good trap it and move it deep into the Everglades.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Hang about....where are the cries of Shit parenting allowing their child to get so close to an alligator? Or is an alligator not as worthy as a gorilla?

#alligatorsmattertoo

#doublestandards

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was reported in New Scientist that there are now Nile Crocodiles in Florida, probably released from the exotic pet trade. Apparently they are far more dangerous than the alligators.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"In Florida its not uncommon to find one hanging about in your swimming pool. The place is infested with them.

When I was in Mexico you didn't hang about in the evening by the lagoons for this very reason.

Shooting it won't do any good trap it and move it deep into the Everglades.

I think you'll find its the humans that have infested the alligator's habitat.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"It was a man made lagoon on Disney property not necessarily a place where you would find gators. "

Water is water and that's where they live. Much as water birds find any man made areas alligator's do the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In Florida its not uncommon to find one hanging about in your swimming pool. The place is infested with them.

When I was in Mexico you didn't hang about in the evening by the lagoons for this very reason.

Shooting it won't do any good trap it and move it deep into the Everglades.

I think you'll find its the humans that have infested the alligator's habitat. "

Have you had a coffee yet?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Hang about....where are the cries of Shit parenting allowing their child to get so close to an alligator? Or is an alligator not as worthy as a gorilla?

#alligatorsmattertoo

#doublestandards"

Me and a workmate have just been discussing that very subject,why would anybody sit so close to water knowing alligators could be around there

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

"Hang about....where are the cries of Shit parenting allowing their child to get so close to an alligator? Or is an alligator not as worthy as a gorilla?

#alligatorsmattertoo

#doublestandards"

The Gran Floridian is Disneys flagship hotel, although you can never be 100% in Florida, I would have thought that this hotel would be one of the safer locations in the state. There are no signs warning of gators at that location but there are no bathing signs. (Probably so as not to lower the tone knowing Disney)

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"In Florida its not uncommon to find one hanging about in your swimming pool. The place is infested with them.

When I was in Mexico you didn't hang about in the evening by the lagoons for this very reason.

Shooting it won't do any good trap it and move it deep into the Everglades.

I think you'll find its the humans that have infested the alligator's habitat.

Have you had a coffee yet? "

Not really sure why I need to have a coffee? It's a valid point. Humans infest animal habitat because they want to live their then get shitty when the animal's want to still live there as well and call them the nuisance. It's like me setting up home in your living room then getting annoyed when you want to come in and use it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In Florida its not uncommon to find one hanging about in your swimming pool. The place is infested with them.

When I was in Mexico you didn't hang about in the evening by the lagoons for this very reason.

Shooting it won't do any good trap it and move it deep into the Everglades.

I think you'll find its the humans that have infested the alligator's habitat.

Have you had a coffee yet?

Not sure where you are coming from no annoyance in my post. If anything I feel for the alligator. They were only doing what comes natural at the waters edge.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"In Florida its not uncommon to find one hanging about in your swimming pool. The place is infested with them.

When I was in Mexico you didn't hang about in the evening by the lagoons for this very reason.

Shooting it won't do any good trap it and move it deep into the Everglades.

I think you'll find its the humans that have infested the alligator's habitat.

Have you had a coffee yet?

So where is the humans habitat or terratory?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whatever ...dreadful news and awful for the family.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

"Whatever ...dreadful news and awful for the family."

In man made cities

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

It seems when someone is killed by an animal the response is"she/he was in its territory" shark attack,now an alligator awhile ago it was a lion,so where is our territory?us humans have an habitat can we go nowhere now?

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Law of the jungle, survival of the fittest, the Gator was doing what gators do in being predatory and attacking a weaker animal (2year old kid) the hunters will then attack the weaker gator using their superior hunting skills, guile and rifles. 1000 years ago a similar thing would have happened in the shared habitat because every creature on earth shares its habitat, only then they would have hunted the gator with spears

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Turns out they were paddling in the water if Fox News is anything to go by. Right by the no swimming signs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hang about....where are the cries of Shit parenting allowing their child to get so close to an alligator? Or is an alligator not as worthy as a gorilla?

#alligatorsmattertoo

#doublestandards

Me and a workmate have just been discussing that very subject,why would anybody sit so close to water knowing alligators could be around there"

If you have ever visited Seven Seas Lagoon, you will know there are picnic areas and sun bathing spots right along the shoreline, it is man made and designed for scenery, picnics and boating.

You also need to know that Seven Seas Lagoon is Directly connected to Bay Lake!!!

both are stocked with fish and fishing outings are done with boat hire.

There are also islands on both lakes which could harbour alligators.

Lake Buena Vista has also had sightings of Alligators over the years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Turns out they were paddling in the water if Fox News is anything to go by. Right by the no swimming signs. "

A No Swimming sign doesn't necessarily equate the same as a Do Not Enter The Water sign.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Turns out they were paddling in the water if Fox News is anything to go by. Right by the no swimming signs.

A No Swimming sign doesn't necessarily equate the same as a Do Not Enter The Water sign.

It's not a no swimming sign they need, but a Beware of the Alligator sign

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Turns out they were paddling in the water if Fox News is anything to go by. Right by the no swimming signs.

A No Swimming sign doesn't necessarily equate the same as a Do Not Enter The Water sign.

It's not a no swimming sign they need, but a Beware of the Alligator sign

Exactly!!

I'd dip my toes where there's a no swimming sign, they're dotted along the banks of the Thames.

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By *icecouple200Couple
over a year ago

blackpool

"It was a man made lagoon on Disney property not necessarily a place where you would find gators. "

They get everywhere unfortunately. They're good climbers unbelievably.

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By *icecouple200Couple
over a year ago

blackpool

The family were sat watching a film outdoors with many other families. Alligators are amazingly good at getting to wherever they like and this one had snuck into that lagoon.

It's a shocking event and I'm so saddened by it.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

"I don't understand why how the alligator got in there. Disney are normally shit hot on that kind of thing.

A terrible tragedy for the family "

Was a crocodile and was the Peter Pan attraction

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

disney are going to be handing out a cheque with a lot of "zero's" on it for this one.....

buy saying that... the one place in florida you thought would be shit hot on any gator activity would be the disney resort...

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

"disney are going to be handing out a cheque with a lot of "zero's" on it for this one.....

buy saying that... the one place in florida you thought would be shit hot on any gator activity would be the disney resort... "

This

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By *arksMan
over a year ago

in the centre

There's likely to be gators wherever there is water in Florida , been quite a few times and seen them on golf courses in resort lakes etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My sister and family went last year (and are going back this july) there are signs near the water saying there are alligators in it and not to swim.

My parents had a villa there for their holidays a couple of years ago and came back from a day out to find 2 in the back garden. 1 laid sunbathing on a lounger, the other floating about in the pool!

Had to call someone to move them.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

"My sister and family went last year (and are going back this july) there are signs near the water saying there are alligators in it and not to swim.

My parents had a villa there for their holidays a couple of years ago and came back from a day out to find 2 in the back garden. 1 laid sunbathing on a lounger, the other floating about in the pool!

Had to call someone to move them.

xx"

No signs warning of gators at the grand Floridian just no bathing signs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"disney are going to be handing out a cheque with a lot of "zero's" on it for this one.....

buy saying that... the one place in florida you thought would be shit hot on any gator activity would be the disney resort... "

Difficult one to police, there can be many arguments around this one, would it be the same pay out for a bolt of lightening, or a thug with a gun, what about a bee sting ??

and don't laugh, a man died in Florida due to a bee sting not too long ago

it is far too early in the day for dictating what is going to happen, the full story is not even out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Been a bad couple of weeks for Florida.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

If they hadn't have shot that cuddly gorilla a couple of weeks ago it could have swung in and rescued the baby human from the nasty crocodile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tragic though this event is,,,,,

I think it would be interesting to find out how many none captive alligator attacks occur per head of population in the USA and compare it to the amount of alligator attack that occur per head of population in managed environments .....

I'm sure it would help put a perspective on the inherent risks that come with supplying the public's demand for entertainment of this kind....

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

As long as it wasn't during term time...

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

It isn't a zoo

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"It isn't a zoo"

Oh, you said that further on

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By *edheadsruleCouple
over a year ago

lancashire

A friend of mine was staying in a Disney resort this time last year...has a nice pic of an alligator up out of the water on the hotel grounds :/

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

Available statistics show 41 people killed in Florida since 2010.

No further breakdown.

Funniest being a burglar who hid from police in a river .

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incidents_at_Walt_Disney_World

"in 2004 a 38yr old employee dressed as Pluto was killed at the magic kingdom when he was run over by a Beauty and the Beast float"

"in 1977 a 4yr old drowned in the moat surrounding Cinderella's castle. Disney paid out $4m"

Seems Disney keeps a blank chequebook for deaths and the like

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very sad though no matter what

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is terrible and I can't even imagine being that child's mother

But alligator's have been around for millions of years, far longer than us, then we turn up, move further and further into their habitat, what do people expect, wild life isn't go to move for us, its their home its all they know to them we are a walking buffet just making feeding time easier and easier the closer we get

I don't think shooting the alligator will achieve anything, won't bring the child back and won't stop further attacks

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!

That's to tragic for words,how the hell do you carry on living knowing your child has died in such a horrendous way.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

"It is terrible and I can't even imagine being that child's mother

I don't think shooting the alligator will achieve anything, won't bring the child back and won't stop further attacks"
they won't want the gator getting a taste for humans

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It is terrible and I can't even imagine being that child's mother

I don't think shooting the alligator will achieve anything, won't bring the child back and won't stop further attacks"

No you cant shoot it,it was as they say just doing what an alligator does

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The big problem is that alligators are everywhere there is water in Florida but they never warn visitors to be aware of the problem whenever they are near water.

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

"It is terrible and I can't even imagine being that child's mother

I don't think shooting the alligator will achieve anything, won't bring the child back and won't stop further attacks

No you cant shoot it,it was as they say just doing what an alligator does"

Well do far according to the Glorida police and the Florida wildlife they have scooped up 3 alligators already "for examination"

" how are they examined?" He was asked"

" well they are euthanised first"......

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By *ethepeopleMan
over a year ago

Near you

"In Florida its not uncommon to find one hanging about in your swimming pool. The place is infested with them.

When I was in Mexico you didn't hang about in the evening by the lagoons for this very reason.

Shooting it won't do any good trap it and move it deep into the Everglades.

I think you'll find its the humans that have infested the alligator's habitat.

Have you had a coffee yet?

So where is the humans habitat or terratory?"
if you think about we as a species no longer add anything to this planet just take and kill , so yes where is our habitat

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is terrible and I can't even imagine being that child's mother

I don't think shooting the alligator will achieve anything, won't bring the child back and won't stop further attacks

No you cant shoot it,it was as they say just doing what an alligator does"

I can just imagine you holding back the armed policeman as the alligator drags yours screaming terrified child back into the lake where it will drown it and dismember it. "Let it go, it's nature's way".

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!

"It is terrible and I can't even imagine being that child's mother

I don't think shooting the alligator will achieve anything, won't bring the child back and won't stop further attacks

No you cant shoot it,it was as they say just doing what an alligator does

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is terrible and I can't even imagine being that child's mother

I don't think shooting the alligator will achieve anything, won't bring the child back and won't stop further attacks

No you cant shoot it,it was as they say just doing what an alligator does

You've changed the reality though.

The child's already gone along with alligator, finding the alligator now and shooting it will achieve nothing!.

Nobody had a gun when the attack happened, so your question is irrelevant

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!

"It is terrible and I can't even imagine being that child's mother

I don't think shooting the alligator will achieve anything, won't bring the child back and won't stop further attacks

No you cant shoot it,it was as they say just doing what an alligator does

You've changed the reality though.

The child's already gone along with alligator, finding the alligator now and shooting it will achieve nothing!.

Nobody had a gun when the attack happened, so your question is irrelevant"

It will achieve it not happening again

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By *piritsonfabCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

"It is terrible and I can't even imagine being that child's mother

I don't think shooting the alligator will achieve anything, won't bring the child back and won't stop further attacks

No you cant shoot it,it was as they say just doing what an alligator does

You've changed the reality though.

The child's already gone along with alligator, finding the alligator now and shooting it will achieve nothing!.

Nobody had a gun when the attack happened, so your question is irrelevant

It will achieve it not happening again"

Only to that child and by that alligator. If they ever find it.

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!

"It is terrible and I can't even imagine being that child's mother

I don't think shooting the alligator will achieve anything, won't bring the child back and won't stop further attacks

No you cant shoot it,it was as they say just doing what an alligator does

You've changed the reality though.

The child's already gone along with alligator, finding the alligator now and shooting it will achieve nothing!.

Nobody had a gun when the attack happened, so your question is irrelevant

It will achieve it not happening again

Only to that child and by that alligator. If they ever find it."

I meant by that particular alligator

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"In Florida its not uncommon to find one hanging about in your swimming pool. The place is infested with them.

When I was in Mexico you didn't hang about in the evening by the lagoons for this very reason.

Shooting it won't do any good trap it and move it deep into the Everglades.

I think you'll find its the humans that have infested the alligator's habitat.

Have you had a coffee yet?

So where is the humans habitat or terratory? if you think about we as a species no longer add anything to this planet just take and kill , so yes where is our habitat

So stop walking now so as not to step on a bug,you are in its territory...what a stupid comment you have just made

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is terrible and I can't even imagine being that child's mother

I don't think shooting the alligator will achieve anything, won't bring the child back and won't stop further attacks

No you cant shoot it,it was as they say just doing what an alligator does

That's just silly, you wouldnt need any armed police to get your child if it was alive and screaming, any parent would risk its own life for its child

But once somebody is dead how is killing the animal going to change what has happened?

It won't stop it happening again because if you kill that one animal there are hundreds more out there, should we just kill them all?

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

"It is terrible and I can't even imagine being that child's mother

I don't think shooting the alligator will achieve anything, won't bring the child back and won't stop further attacks

No you cant shoot it,it was as they say just doing what an alligator does

That's just silly, you wouldnt need any armed police to get your child if it was alive and screaming, any parent would risk its own life for its child

But once somebody is dead how is killing the animal going to change what has happened?

It won't stop it happening again because if you kill that one animal there are hundreds more out there, should we just kill them all?"

They always try and kill the one that attacked the human just in case it gets a taste for people and comes back for more. That goes for all predators and is the reason why dogs that attack people are destroyed too.

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over a year ago

It's the new ' in thing' !!! All the cool parents are doing it! I'm thinking about feeding some of my family to a hungry hippo!

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over a year ago

"It is terrible and I can't even imagine being that child's mother

I don't think shooting the alligator will achieve anything, won't bring the child back and won't stop further attacks

No you cant shoot it,it was as they say just doing what an alligator does

That's just silly, you wouldnt need any armed police to get your child if it was alive and screaming, any parent would risk its own life for its child

But once somebody is dead how is killing the animal going to change what has happened?

It won't stop it happening again because if you kill that one animal there are hundreds more out there, should we just kill them all?

I doubt an alligator is going to actively seek out a human because it had one last week, I think like most predator's it will just attract the first animal it see's next time it's hungry

Obviously I'm not expert on alligator behaviour but I'm pretty sure the next time it's hungry and different animal is in its path its not going to pass up that meal to go people searching

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hang about....where are the cries of Shit parenting allowing their child to get so close to an alligator? Or is an alligator not as worthy as a gorilla?

#alligatorsmattertoo

#doublestandards"

The story now emerging is the child was playing IN the water....despite signs warning against this. If this is true then you have a very real point!

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

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"It is terrible and I can't even imagine being that child's mother

I don't think shooting the alligator will achieve anything, won't bring the child back and won't stop further attacks

No you cant shoot it,it was as they say just doing what an alligator does

That's just silly, you wouldnt need any armed police to get your child if it was alive and screaming, any parent would risk its own life for its child

But once somebody is dead how is killing the animal going to change what has happened?

It won't stop it happening again because if you kill that one animal there are hundreds more out there, should we just kill them all?

I doubt an alligator is going to actively seek out a human because it had one last week, I think like most predator's it will just attract the first animal it see's next time it's hungry

Obviously I'm not expert on alligator behaviour but I'm pretty sure the next time it's hungry and different animal is in its path its not going to pass up that meal to go people searching "

Alligators wait where they know food will be. It could be months but they don't mind. If they have had a meal from that spot they will come back to it again.

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over a year ago

"It is terrible and I can't even imagine being that child's mother

I don't think shooting the alligator will achieve anything, won't bring the child back and won't stop further attacks

No you cant shoot it,it was as they say just doing what an alligator does

That's just silly, you wouldnt need any armed police to get your child if it was alive and screaming, any parent would risk its own life for its child

But once somebody is dead how is killing the animal going to change what has happened?

It won't stop it happening again because if you kill that one animal there are hundreds more out there, should we just kill them all?"

What do you think his parents did? Just watch? You vs 9 ft alligator. Alligator wins.

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over a year ago

Just so sad

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

"It is terrible and I can't even imagine being that child's mother

I don't think shooting the alligator will achieve anything, won't bring the child back and won't stop further attacks

No you cant shoot it,it was as they say just doing what an alligator does

That's just silly, you wouldnt need any armed police to get your child if it was alive and screaming, any parent would risk its own life for its child

But once somebody is dead how is killing the animal going to change what has happened?

It won't stop it happening again because if you kill that one animal there are hundreds more out there, should we just kill them all?

What do you think his parents did? Just watch? You vs 9 ft alligator. Alligator wins."
poor guy got injured trying to fight the gator off. I really feel for the father.

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over a year ago

"It is terrible and I can't even imagine being that child's mother

I don't think shooting the alligator will achieve anything, won't bring the child back and won't stop further attacks

No you cant shoot it,it was as they say just doing what an alligator does

That's just silly, you wouldnt need any armed police to get your child if it was alive and screaming, any parent would risk its own life for its child

But once somebody is dead how is killing the animal going to change what has happened?

It won't stop it happening again because if you kill that one animal there are hundreds more out there, should we just kill them all?

What do you think his parents did? Just watch? You vs 9 ft alligator. Alligator wins."

Of course don't think his parents just watched their child being killed, I'm sure they did everything in their power to save their child

When did I even hint as thinking they wouldn't have tried to save their child?

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over a year ago

That's just silly, you wouldnt need any armed police to get your child if it was alive and screaming, any parent would risk its own life for its child

Ok, why wouldn't you need someone with a gun?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

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"You vs 9 ft alligator. Alligator wins."

Tut tut tut, where have you spent all your life...

There are two ways to disable an alligator, Mr Bond.

One way is to take a pencil and stick it in the pressure point above its eye.

The other way is twice as simple. Just stick your hand in it's mouth and pull out all it's teeth.

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over a year ago

The child was in water where it said...do not go in the water! If it clearly says dont enter the water...why does an animal need to be killed?

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over a year ago

"The child was in water where it said...do not go in the water! If it clearly says dont enter the water...why does an animal need to be killed? "

Ask your dad.

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over a year ago

That's just silly, you wouldnt need any armed police to get your child if it was alive and screaming, any parent would risk its own life for its child

Ok, why wouldn't you need someone with a gun?"

that was just my way of saying if your child that was in danger, of any kind you'd be the first to jump in and save it

armed gun men or not you'd risk your life for your child

i didn't mean armed gun men would be no use i just men you would do your best regardless

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

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They have killed 4 alligators so far in the search for this little boy....again, where is the public outcry for the alligator's like there was for harambe?

Not saying it isn't an awfully tragic event and one I wouldn't wish on anyone but the disparity is blinding.

Florida is well known for its alligator population....it is one of the draws of the area, they even have a park where you can see captive gators being fed. Perhaps that is the problem. People become complacent and expect them to only exist in exhibits?

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over a year ago

That's just silly, you wouldnt need any armed police to get your child if it was alive and screaming, any parent would risk its own life for its child

Ok, why wouldn't you need someone with a gun?

that was just my way of saying if your child that was in danger, of any kind you'd be the first to jump in and save it

armed gun men or not you'd risk your life for your child

i didn't mean armed gun men would be no use i just men you would do your best regardless

I except your apology..

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

"The child was in water where it said...do not go in the water! If it clearly says dont enter the water...why does an animal need to be killed? "

Last time I looked, most 2 year olds don't read very well

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over a year ago

That's just silly, you wouldnt need any armed police to get your child if it was alive and screaming, any parent would risk its own life for its child

Ok, why wouldn't you need someone with a gun?

that was just my way of saying if your child that was in danger, of any kind you'd be the first to jump in and save it

armed gun men or not you'd risk your life for your child

i didn't mean armed gun men would be no use i just men you would do your best regardless

I except your apology.."

don't push your luck.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"why does an animal need to be killed?

They're trying to recover the body

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over a year ago

"why does an animal need to be killed?

They're trying to recover the body

Ok call me thick but I have been at work all day so not really heard the news or followed the story just heard people talking

When you say recover the body do you mean find the alligator and cup it open? I don't think I need go into any more details

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over a year ago

"The child was in water where it said...do not go in the water! If it clearly says dont enter the water...why does an animal need to be killed?

Last time I looked, most 2 year olds don't read very well"

Well if you saw a sign saying do not enter the water, surely you'd make sure your child did not go in the water.

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By *albec26Man
over a year ago

Great Yarmouth

"why does an animal need to be killed?

They're trying to recover the body

Ok call me thick but I have been at work all day so not really heard the news or followed the story just heard people talking

When you say recover the body do you mean find the alligator and cup it open? I don't think I need go into any more details "

They usually store food for later so I think they are searching for the body.

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over a year ago

"The child was in water where it said...do not go in the water! If it clearly says dont enter the water...why does an animal need to be killed?

Last time I looked, most 2 year olds don't read very well

Well if you saw a sign saying do not enter the water, surely you'd make sure your child did not go in the water. "

Your opening a can of worms there, don't you remember the gorilla thread

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over a year ago

"The child was in water where it said...do not go in the water! If it clearly says dont enter the water...why does an animal need to be killed?

Last time I looked, most 2 year olds don't read very well

Well if you saw a sign saying do not enter the water, surely you'd make sure your child did not go in the water.

Your opening a can of worms there, don't you remember the gorilla thread

The gorilla case may be abit different tho as you wouldnt expect to be able to get into that enclosure, were as open water?? Bit different id say but thats just my opinion. If i was walking by a main road i wouldnt let go of my child...there dosent need to be a sign telling me not to enter the road tho

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"why does an animal need to be killed?

They're trying to recover the body

Ok call me thick but I have been at work all day so not really heard the news or followed the story just heard people talking

When you say recover the body do you mean find the alligator and cup it open? I don't think I need go into any more details

They usually store food for later so I think they are searching for the body."

Now that's an image bad enough to give those poor people nightmares for the rest of their lives

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over a year ago

"why does an animal need to be killed?

They're trying to recover the body

Ok call me thick but I have been at work all day so not really heard the news or followed the story just heard people talking

When you say recover the body do you mean find the alligator and cup it open? I don't think I need go into any more details

They usually store food for later so I think they are searching for the body.

Now that's an image bad enough to give those poor people nightmares for the rest of their lives

Isn't it just

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

"The child was in water where it said...do not go in the water! If it clearly says dont enter the water...why does an animal need to be killed?

Last time I looked, most 2 year olds don't read very well

Well if you saw a sign saying do not enter the water, surely you'd make sure your child did not go in the water. "

You get no bathing signs on ornamental fountains, you don't expect to be attacked by alligators in the sterile environment of the Grand Floridian hotel in Disney World

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over a year ago

"The child was in water where it said...do not go in the water! If it clearly says dont enter the water...why does an animal need to be killed?

Last time I looked, most 2 year olds don't read very well

Well if you saw a sign saying do not enter the water, surely you'd make sure your child did not go in the water.

Your opening a can of worms there, don't you remember the gorilla thread

Did the alligator not come onto land and take the child?

As I said earlier I've been at work all day so not seen the news but I heard while at work the family was having a picnic and the alligator came on land and snatched the child dragging him into the river before the family could save him??

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over a year ago

"why does an animal need to be killed?

They're trying to recover the body

Ok call me thick but I have been at work all day so not really heard the news or followed the story just heard people talking

When you say recover the body do you mean find the alligator and cup it open? I don't think I need go into any more details

They usually store food for later so I think they are searching for the body.

Now that's an image bad enough to give those poor people nightmares for the rest of their lives

I watched a programme where the alligator rolled its victim several times until dead then they stash it somewhere for later

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Poor little boy. He must have been so scared. His poor parents too, it's a high price to pay for ignoring a sign.

I heard the father got lacerations trying to save him.

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over a year ago

"The child was in water where it said...do not go in the water! If it clearly says dont enter the water...why does an animal need to be killed?

Last time I looked, most 2 year olds don't read very well

Well if you saw a sign saying do not enter the water, surely you'd make sure your child did not go in the water.

Your opening a can of worms there, don't you remember the gorilla thread

Did the alligator not come onto land and take the child?

From what i read on the Sky News App the child was in the water when theres a sign saying do not go in the water. The resort place released a statement saying theres a sign saying do not enter the water. But i suppose the media always twist things aswell so who knows

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over a year ago

"The child was in water where it said...do not go in the water! If it clearly says dont enter the water...why does an animal need to be killed?

Last time I looked, most 2 year olds don't read very well

Well if you saw a sign saying do not enter the water, surely you'd make sure your child did not go in the water.

You get no bathing signs on ornamental fountains, you don't expect to be attacked by alligators in the sterile environment of the Grand Floridian hotel in Disney World "

Excuse me _olgate us humans dont have a territory,where ever we walk we are encroaching on another animals god given part of the planet.....we dont have any such part

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

"The child was in water where it said...do not go in the water! If it clearly says dont enter the water...why does an animal need to be killed?

Last time I looked, most 2 year olds don't read very well

Well if you saw a sign saying do not enter the water, surely you'd make sure your child did not go in the water.

You get no bathing signs on ornamental fountains, you don't expect to be attacked by alligators in the sterile environment of the Grand Floridian hotel in Disney World

Excuse me _olgate us humans dont have a territory,where ever we walk we are encroaching on another animals god given part of the planet.....we dont have any such part"

What point are you trying to make here? Don't leave the house?

Every day we go out and do a risk assessment over every step we take. The family were in a location where their own risk assessment would lead them to assume that they were safe from attack from dangerous predators. I have been to Florida and been up close and almost personal with gators, both captive and in the wild. Where this family were, they and countless others would assume that were safe.

This was not a golf course with lakes, lagoons, gators and water moccasins, it is a family resort.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The child was in water where it said...do not go in the water! If it clearly says dont enter the water...why does an animal need to be killed?

Last time I looked, most 2 year olds don't read very well

Well if you saw a sign saying do not enter the water, surely you'd make sure your child did not go in the water.

You get no bathing signs on ornamental fountains, you don't expect to be attacked by alligators in the sterile environment of the Grand Floridian hotel in Disney World

Excuse me _olgate us humans dont have a territory,where ever we walk we are encroaching on another animals god given part of the planet.....we dont have any such part

What point are you trying to make here? Don't leave the house?

This was not a golf course with lakes, lagoons, gators and water moccasins, it is a family resort. "

I was agreeing with you....it was sarcasim mr._olgate

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over a year ago

"Poor little boy. He must have been so scared. His poor parents too, it's a high price to pay for ignoring a sign.

I heard the father got lacerations trying to save him. "

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

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I missed the sarcasm Rossi

I was going to add, that gator had encroached into human territory, the consequences work both ways

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over a year ago

"I missed the sarcasm Rossi

I was going to add, that gator had encroached into human territory, the consequences work both ways "

Correct

My point was us humans do have territories and turf just like the animal we all have our place

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By *arksMan
over a year ago

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"The child was in water where it said...do not go in the water! If it clearly says dont enter the water...why does an animal need to be killed?

Last time I looked, most 2 year olds don't read very well

Well if you saw a sign saying do not enter the water, surely you'd make sure your child did not go in the water.

You get no bathing signs on ornamental fountains, you don't expect to be attacked by alligators in the sterile environment of the Grand Floridian hotel in Disney World

Excuse me _olgate us humans dont have a territory,where ever we walk we are encroaching on another animals god given part of the planet.....we dont have any such part

What point are you trying to make here? Don't leave the house?

This was not a golf course with lakes, lagoons, gators and water moccasins, it is a family resort. "

An animal expert was on Fox news saying its mating season and males will travel miles across land searching for females , while i am sure they try to keep the resort as alligator free as possible its known that any stretch of water in florida may contain alligators , pools , lakes , inlets , i have seen one in a ditch at the side of the road before.

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"I missed the sarcasm Rossi

I was going to add, that gator had encroached into human territory, the consequences work both ways

Correct

My point was us humans do have territories and turf just like the animal we all have our place"

Unless we want your turf in which case we are taking it and that's how these things happen

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

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"I missed the sarcasm Rossi

I was going to add, that gator had encroached into human territory, the consequences work both ways

Correct

My point was us humans do have territories and turf just like the animal we all have our place

Unless we want your turf in which case we are taking it and that's how these things happen

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even animals as small (and smaller) as jerbils are territorial. If you stray into another another animals territory you have to expect consequences. The gator knows not to stray into bigger gators territory, it strayed into human territory so now it has to die.

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By *arksMan
over a year ago

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"I missed the sarcasm Rossi

I was going to add, that gator had encroached into human territory, the consequences work both ways

Correct

My point was us humans do have territories and turf just like the animal we all have our place

Unless we want your turf in which case we are taking it and that's how these things happen

even animals as small (and smaller) as jerbils are territorial. If you stray into another another animals territory you have to expect consequences. The gator knows not to stray into bigger gators territory, it strayed into human territory so now it has to die. "

In all fairness , before disney ( pre 1970 ) it was most likely the alligators territory , all orlando was back then was a farming community with a mass of lakes and orange groves

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

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In that case I live in the territory of woolly mammoths and sabre tooth tigers.

Tina! I may need an insurance form?

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"I missed the sarcasm Rossi

I was going to add, that gator had encroached into human territory, the consequences work both ways

Correct

My point was us humans do have territories and turf just like the animal we all have our place

Unless we want your turf in which case we are taking it and that's how these things happen

Alligator's were probably using that area for hunting and mating hundreds of thousands of years before humans ever even evolved

As humans evolved and branched out they expanded into areas never been used before by us

But they were used by other animals, other animals have been calling these areas home for many years, building a hotel on that area does not make it our territory, alligator's do not understand that

Same as the shark last week didn't understand humans are claiming areas of water now

Animals that have been using areas for thousands of years simply do not understand .....this is ours now keep out

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over a year ago

"In that case I live in the territory of woolly mammoths and sabre tooth tigers.

Tina! I may need an insurance form?"

Jesus Christ how old are you

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By *arksMan
over a year ago

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"In that case I live in the territory of woolly mammoths and sabre tooth tigers.

Tina! I may need an insurance form?"

in that case if you ever get trampled on by a wooly mammoth while being gnawed by a sabre tooth tiger i will apologise profusely

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

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"I missed the sarcasm Rossi

I was going to add, that gator had encroached into human territory, the consequences work both ways

Correct

My point was us humans do have territories and turf just like the animal we all have our place

Unless we want your turf in which case we are taking it and that's how these things happen

Alligator's were probably using that area for hunting and mating hundreds of thousands of years before humans ever even evolved

As humans evolved and branched out they expanded into areas never been used before by us

But they were used by other animals, other animals have been calling these areas home for many years, building a hotel on that area does not make it our territory, alligator's do not understand that

Same as the shark last week didn't understand humans are claiming areas of water now

Animals that have been using areas for thousands of years simply do not understand .....this is ours now keep out"

Animals understand territory, they will always try to push their boundaries and fight for more. No different to the pecking order among chickens in a hen house

Humans are top of the food chain. The gator becomes a handbag

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"The child was in water where it said...do not go in the water! If it clearly says dont enter the water...why does an animal need to be killed?

Last time I looked, most 2 year olds don't read very well

Well if you saw a sign saying do not enter the water, surely you'd make sure your child did not go in the water.

Your opening a can of worms there, don't you remember the gorilla thread

Did the alligator not come onto land and take the child?

The signs say now swimming but warn that that is due to a steep drop off rather than a risk of alligators