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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

With the referendum coming up and the uncertainty of which way the UK will decide,

The pound and FTSE 100 falling as are many world wide shares

people selling/dumping their shares and buying up bonds

Is this a good time to buy? I think for someone wanting an entrance into the share market for long term its a fine time to buy.

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I took advantage of buying BP shares at the time of the oil spill in 2010 when shares dropped almost 50%, its the perfect time to buy if - in for the long term

any views on buying shares at this unsteady time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With the referendum coming up and the uncertainty of which way the UK will decide,

The pound and FTSE 100 falling as are many world wide shares

people selling/dumping their shares and buying up bonds

Is this a good time to buy? I think for someone wanting an entrance into the share market for long term its a fine time to buy.

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I took advantage of buying BP shares at the time of the oil spill in 2010 when shares dropped almost 50%, its the perfect time to buy if - in for the long term

any views on buying shares at this unsteady time "
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As a rule of thumb for many years, shares were bought for investment and bonds for yield, were now bizarrely looking at things the other way round.

The world financial system is fucked up, being in or out of the EU won't make the slightest bit of difference to the outcome.

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As a side note, bp shares dropped through the floor because investors were worried that they might be forced to pay "the true costs" for the environmental cost that bp,s folly caused.... Had they been, your shares would now be worthless as bp would have gone under.

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By *eccymanMan
over a year ago

Gateshead

The markets are cyclical by nature. Nothing can perpetually rise and nothing can perpetually fall. It's all about opportunity and buying shares now could go in your favour but could also go against you. You're gambling on the outcome of a referendum of which you have a 25% chance of winning. The reason I say 25% is that a) you have to pick the correct outcome which you have a 50% chance of doing and b) you have to pick the right shares of which you have a 50% chance of doing because they're either going to go up or go down on June 24th.

Bonds produce a fixed yield across the term of them and you're guaranteed to get your stake back on maturity. You can get ten year bonds but they're typically 2 or 5 year fixed yield bonds, or Gilts as they're called in the UK.

Good luck.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Again it is down to your own perception of risk and available cash that you can prepare to lose.

I still think that this can be a real good time; IF you are in for the long term

Many watch the market and when they see a dumping of shares they follow suit,

I have always considered that nothing is gained without risk and it certainly paid off with BP

the £ and FTSE 100 continue to drop this can be an advantage to some

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By *eccymanMan
over a year ago

Gateshead

A good book to read is The Madness of Crowds. You'll get a good insight as to what a contrarian investor is. Basically, buy when others are selling and sell when everyone else is buying.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

It's a global market and varies up and down. Everyone buys in a fall so prices rise, then people sell and supply and demand make the prices fall and round and round we go again.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

the 'market' and commerce does not like uncertainty, could be a tricky ride..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Although my perception to risk is fairly low I avoid investing in blue chip shares....

I enjoy the frivolity of a punt on the penny share markets which I do via a nominee account ....

Over the years I've held shares in some speculative schemes which have bordered on the wild and wacky but to date in most part this strategy has provided me with a surplus above my initial outlay

Although it's fair to say some spectacular failures have peppered my choices....

I once invested in an explorative diamond mining operation beneath the plunge pool of an extinct waterfall in South Africa ....

The mining company went bust 3 day after I bought my shares...

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Again it is down to your own perception of risk and available cash that you can prepare to lose.

I still think that this can be a real good time; IF you are in for the long term

Many watch the market and when they see a dumping of shares they follow suit,

I have always considered that nothing is gained without risk and it certainly paid off with BP

the £ and FTSE 100 continue to drop this can be an advantage to some"

The £ is higher now than it was in March and the polls have shifted more towards Brexit since then.

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By *omersetfun15Couple
over a year ago

bridgwater


"With the referendum coming up and the uncertainty of which way the UK will decide,

The pound and FTSE 100 falling as are many world wide shares

people selling/dumping their shares and buying up bonds

Is this a good time to buy? I think for someone wanting an entrance into the share market for long term its a fine time to buy.

.

I took advantage of buying BP shares at the time of the oil spill in 2010 when shares dropped almost 50%, its the perfect time to buy if - in for the long term

any views on buying shares at this unsteady time .

As a rule of thumb for many years, shares were bought for investment and bonds for yield, were now bizarrely looking at things the other way round.

The world financial system is fucked up, being in or out of the EU won't make the slightest bit of difference to the outcome.

.

.

As a side note, bp shares dropped through the floor because investors were worried that they might be forced to pay "the true costs" for the environmental cost that bp,s folly caused.... Had they been, your shares would now be worthless as bp would have gone under."

Thats the gamble you make

Weve done well buying shares at the right time.you have to be able to lock the money away for a long period though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Although my perception to risk is fairly low I avoid investing in blue chip shares....

I enjoy the frivolity of a punt on the penny share markets which I do via a nominee account ....

Over the years I've held shares in some speculative schemes which have bordered on the wild and wacky but to date in most part this strategy has provided me with a surplus above my initial outlay

Although it's fair to say some spectacular failures have peppered my choices....

I once invested in an explorative diamond mining operation beneath the plunge pool of an extinct waterfall in South Africa ....

The mining company went bust 3 day after I bought my shares...

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Lol .... Diamonds are a brilliant example of a manipulated market, there's a massive oversupply in them and has been in decades, originally hard to find they made ideal "investments" while being wanted for jewellery!.

There "true" cost should be pounds not thousands of pounds... It's exactly what happens when one giant company has huge influence in its market.

The biggest problem with small investment is exactly the problem faced by the guys who took the short on the banks in 07-08, they had all the numbers and sums correct and couldn't understand why it wasn't crashing in 2006.....

The markets are completely corrupt and have been for awhile, so you need to factor that into your thesis on a particular investment!.

Currency markets are probably the most fiddled corrupted of all, not only are they being manipulated by the big investors and banks but there also being manipulated by their own governments!.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

May I remind people we are able to invest in companies all over the world.

shares go up and down as do as do currencies. Those with interests in a particular area often move assets around to influence the markets.

As for oil it is 1 of the most played around with by those with substantial investments.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Bookies have slashed the odds again on Brexit winning the referendum, so if you are looking for a gamble the smart money would be to bet on Leave.

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By *eccymanMan
over a year ago

Gateshead

Sitting right at the top of the food chain are the market makers. These are people like Warren Buffett and George Soros who could destabilise an entire country if they so wished. There are traders who do nothing else but watch what these two do and follow suit.

Alongside them there are governments like China who buy up public debt of other governments and use it as leverage for favourable trade deals. I believe China's 'People's Investment Fund' is some $13trUSD and it exists almost exclusively for that reason.

The markets are manipulated for sure but even the power players know they have to throw a few crumbs to us mere mortals or the whole thing comes crashing down like a house of cards.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

The weak Pound (£) has triggered UK exporters best month for 13 years. Figures revealed exports rose by £2.2 billion in April, nearly 10%. Sterling wobbled because of the uncertainty caused by the referendum. It is the biggest monthly rise in exports from the UK registered by the Office for National Statistics (ONS) since January 2003. Exports to the rest of the world outside of the EU hit a record high of £14 billion in April. The UK bought a record £20 billion of EU-made goods. MP's said it made a free trade deal with the EU "more likely than ever" if Leave wins the referendum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bookies have slashed the odds again on Brexit winning the referendum, so if you are looking for a gamble the smart money would be to bet on Leave. "

Surely the smarter money would not gamble either way....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sitting right at the top of the food chain are the market makers. These are people like Warren Buffett and George Soros who could destabilise an entire country if they so wished. There are traders who do nothing else but watch what these two do and follow suit.

Alongside them there are governments like China who buy up public debt of other governments and use it as leverage for favourable trade deals. I believe China's 'People's Investment Fund' is some $13trUSD and it exists almost exclusively for that reason.

The markets are manipulated for sure but even the power players know they have to throw a few crumbs to us mere mortals or the whole thing comes crashing down like a house of cards."
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Warren buffet is an avid beliver in Einstein's famous quote!!.

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What's the most powerful thing in the universe?

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield


"With the referendum coming up and the uncertainty of which way the UK will decide,

The pound and FTSE 100 falling as are many world wide shares

people selling/dumping their shares and buying up bonds

Is this a good time to buy? I think for someone wanting an entrance into the share market for long term its a fine time to buy.

.

I took advantage of buying BP shares at the time of the oil spill in 2010 when shares dropped almost 50%, its the perfect time to buy if - in for the long term

any views on buying shares at this unsteady time "

If you think the drop in share prices has anything to do with the EU Referendum then I would suggest you keep well away from buying stocks and Shares.

The reason is far more global and has to do with the global economy such as the slowing of growth in China the staedy fall oil crude oil prices, problems in the eurozone (note eurozone not the EU) investors selling Japanese shares etc.etc.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"With the referendum coming up and the uncertainty of which way the UK will decide,

The pound and FTSE 100 falling as are many world wide shares

people selling/dumping their shares and buying up bonds

Is this a good time to buy? I think for someone wanting an entrance into the share market for long term its a fine time to buy.

.

I took advantage of buying BP shares at the time of the oil spill in 2010 when shares dropped almost 50%, its the perfect time to buy if - in for the long term

any views on buying shares at this unsteady time

If you think the drop in share prices has anything to do with the EU Referendum then I would suggest you keep well away from buying stocks and Shares.

The reason is far more global and has to do with the global economy such as the slowing of growth in China the staedy fall oil crude oil prices, problems in the eurozone (note eurozone not the EU) investors selling Japanese shares etc.etc."

I guess I have been very lucky so far with shares then Garry but thanks for your knowledge

I just wish BP or another company would have another huge spillage, its bad for greenpeace but proved a fantastic investment for me

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