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"I raised this a few weeks ago and voiced my concerns The usual human rights campaigners telling me it's their choice Unbelievable " Do you believe it's real though? And is it different to going to a pub and pulling anyone ? Really ? | |||
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"I raised this a few weeks ago and voiced my concerns The usual human rights campaigners telling me it's their choice Unbelievable Do you believe it's real though? And is it different to going to a pub and pulling anyone ? Really ? " Yeah I think it's real I also think it's very wrong A baby born from no love Would a guy really be that desperate for a shag ???? | |||
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"I raised this a few weeks ago and voiced my concerns The usual human rights campaigners telling me it's their choice Unbelievable Do you believe it's real though? And is it different to going to a pub and pulling anyone ? Really ? Yeah I think it's real I also think it's very wrong A baby born from no love Would a guy really be that desperate for a shag ????" The mother would love it? Or the couple? I'm not saying it's my thing but if you want a baby and can't have one, if it's real, well it's a lot easier than other options isn't it? | |||
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"I raised this a few weeks ago and voiced my concerns The usual human rights campaigners telling me it's their choice Unbelievable Do you believe it's real though? And is it different to going to a pub and pulling anyone ? Really ? Yeah I think it's real I also think it's very wrong A baby born from no love Would a guy really be that desperate for a shag ????" Oh good God get over yourself. Do you really believe all babies are conceived in a Disney movie? Many a baby was conceived in a quick shufty in an alley behind a pub. Doesn't mean the baby is any less loved when its born. If two consenting adults do something legal together then good luck to them. Doesn't affect me or you. | |||
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"I raised this a few weeks ago and voiced my concerns The usual human rights campaigners telling me it's their choice Unbelievable Do you believe it's real though? And is it different to going to a pub and pulling anyone ? Really ? Yeah I think it's real I also think it's very wrong A baby born from no love Would a guy really be that desperate for a shag ????" I have known a few women who really want a baby, but don't want a man in their life . Or perhaps she is married and husband is sterile? Here seems a good place to look if you don't want future contact or involvement. Very possible it's real . Equally possible it isn't . | |||
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"I raised this a few weeks ago and voiced my concerns The usual human rights campaigners telling me it's their choice Unbelievable Do you believe it's real though? And is it different to going to a pub and pulling anyone ? Really ? Yeah I think it's real I also think it's very wrong A baby born from no love Would a guy really be that desperate for a shag ???? Oh good God get over yourself. Do you really believe all babies are conceived in a Disney movie? Many a baby was conceived in a quick shufty in an alley behind a pub. Doesn't mean the baby is any less loved when its born. If two consenting adults do something legal together then good luck to them. Doesn't affect me or you. " My 'opinion' is wrong???? It's supposed to be a discussion | |||
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"I couldn't do it. Knowing there was the possibility of my flesh and blood out there and not knowing what they looked like, imparting my wisdom, missing growth goals and milestones, and growing up and seeing them turn into adults, as well as not having a choice or ability to do my fatherly duties and responsibilities would eat me up inside. Really never understood any bloke that can father a child and happily walk away from all that.." Words of wisdom | |||
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"I raised this a few weeks ago and voiced my concerns The usual human rights campaigners telling me it's their choice Unbelievable " but thats exactly what this place is all about -personal choice - | |||
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"Just read a status from a females profile saying "I want to get pregnant" The profile goes on to read she wants men to ejaculate inside her with no names needed. How, if serious, can people put themselves at risk like that?" I assume with the risk part u mean if she was serious about wanting to be pregnant is if she was the potential fathers could have any std that could affect the pregnancy and health of the baby also other health issues that could be genetic and life threatening if u don't have the medical history. That I agree with because I personally couldn't do it but if it works for her let her crack on | |||
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"Just read a status from a females profile saying "I want to get pregnant" The profile goes on to read she wants men to ejaculate inside her with no names needed. How, if serious, can people put themselves at risk like that?" Just what we like a non judgement thread! We no nothing about the circumstances of those females making such requests. They may be in a group of heterosexuals who have tried to get pregnant and cannot for whatever reason. They may be in a civil partnership or marriage but have been refused access to artificial insemination or have exceeded the number of attempts allowed. Just because a woman is open and states she wants to get pregnant does not mean she is irresponsible | |||
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"I raised this a few weeks ago and voiced my concerns The usual human rights campaigners telling me it's their choice Unbelievable Do you believe it's real though? And is it different to going to a pub and pulling anyone ? Really ? Yeah I think it's real I also think it's very wrong A baby born from no love Would a guy really be that desperate for a shag ???? Oh good God get over yourself. Do you really believe all babies are conceived in a Disney movie? Many a baby was conceived in a quick shufty in an alley behind a pub. Doesn't mean the baby is any less loved when its born. If two consenting adults do something legal together then good luck to them. Doesn't affect me or you. My 'opinion' is wrong???? It's supposed to be a discussion " It means my opinion differs from yours. That's the discussion part. Don'ttake it to heart, might agree on the next thread | |||
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"Just read a status from a females profile saying "I want to get pregnant" The profile goes on to read she wants men to ejaculate inside her with no names needed. How, if serious, can people put themselves at risk like that? Just what we like a non judgement thread! We no nothing about the circumstances of those females making such requests. They may be in a group of heterosexuals who have tried to get pregnant and cannot for whatever reason. They may be in a civil partnership or marriage but have been refused access to artificial insemination or have exceeded the number of attempts allowed. Just because a woman is open and states she wants to get pregnant does not mean she is irresponsible " So you'd father a child and walk away???? | |||
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"If two consenting adults do something legal together then good luck to them. Doesn't affect me or you. " What a sociopathic view! With a serious lack of morales. And here was me thinking humans we're the top of the intelligence chain on the planet. What you describe and seem to endorse is no more than an animalistic social morale stance. Creating life carries a huge level of responsibility. A child s completely innocent and is utterly reliant on its parents and its environment to thrive and grow. By purposefully creating a child (or not taking the necessary precautions to prevent a child being born) with a complete stranger your are still responsible for that life, wether you take responsibility or not. What if that stranger is mentally unstable? has psychological issues? Hasn't the ability, intelligence or character? Is an abuser of children? A paedophile or psychotic? Can't provide enough financially, emotionally? You have created that child and left it to that environment and subjected it to abuse! Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Your attitude is indicative as to why society is diving head first into the toilet | |||
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"I raised this a few weeks ago and voiced my concerns The usual human rights campaigners telling me it's their choice Unbelievable Do you believe it's real though? And is it different to going to a pub and pulling anyone ? Really ? Yeah I think it's real I also think it's very wrong A baby born from no love Would a guy really be that desperate for a shag ???? Oh good God get over yourself. Do you really believe all babies are conceived in a Disney movie? Many a baby was conceived in a quick shufty in an alley behind a pub. Doesn't mean the baby is any less loved when its born. If two consenting adults do something legal together then good luck to them. Doesn't affect me or you. My 'opinion' is wrong???? It's supposed to be a discussion It means my opinion differs from yours. That's the discussion part. Don'ttake it to heart, might agree on the next thread " Ohhhhhh no I won't !!!!!!! | |||
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"Just read a status from a females profile saying "I want to get pregnant" The profile goes on to read she wants men to ejaculate inside her with no names needed. How, if serious, can people put themselves at risk like that? Just what we like a non judgement thread! We no nothing about the circumstances of those females making such requests. They may be in a group of heterosexuals who have tried to get pregnant and cannot for whatever reason. They may be in a civil partnership or marriage but have been refused access to artificial insemination or have exceeded the number of attempts allowed. Just because a woman is open and states she wants to get pregnant does not mean she is irresponsible " Neither does it mean she is responsible, or able and without knowing that person well, how can you assess? | |||
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"If two consenting adults do something legal together then good luck to them. Doesn't affect me or you. What a sociopathic view! With a serious lack of morales. And here was me thinking humans we're the top of the intelligence chain on the planet. What you describe and seem to endorse is no more than an animalistic social morale stance. Creating life carries a huge level of responsibility. A child s completely innocent and is utterly reliant on its parents and its environment to thrive and grow. By purposefully creating a child (or not taking the necessary precautions to prevent a child being born) with a complete stranger your are still responsible for that life, wether you take responsibility or not. What if that stranger is mentally unstable? has psychological issues? Hasn't the ability, intelligence or character? Is an abuser of children? A paedophile or psychotic? Can't provide enough financially, emotionally? You have created that child and left it to that environment and subjected it to abuse! Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Your attitude is indicative as to why society is diving head first into the toilet" How do we know that they won't meet the person a number of times and ask lots of questions? Do we know ? No we don't. We are, as usual making massive assumptions. | |||
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"Just read a status from a females profile saying "I want to get pregnant" The profile goes on to read she wants men to ejaculate inside her with no names needed. How, if serious, can people put themselves at risk like that? Just what we like a non judgement thread! We no nothing about the circumstances of those females making such requests. They may be in a group of heterosexuals who have tried to get pregnant and cannot for whatever reason. They may be in a civil partnership or marriage but have been refused access to artificial insemination or have exceeded the number of attempts allowed. Just because a woman is open and states she wants to get pregnant does not mean she is irresponsible Neither does it mean she is responsible, or able and without knowing that person well, how can you assess? " I don't think anyone can really know the motive, however coming on the forum and vilifying said member is a little crass, no? Or has swinging entered a new age of judgement and outrage? | |||
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"I raised this a few weeks ago and voiced my concerns The usual human rights campaigners telling me it's their choice Unbelievable Do you believe it's real though? And is it different to going to a pub and pulling anyone ? Really ? Yeah I think it's real I also think it's very wrong A baby born from no love Would a guy really be that desperate for a shag ???? Oh good God get over yourself. Do you really believe all babies are conceived in a Disney movie? Many a baby was conceived in a quick shufty in an alley behind a pub. Doesn't mean the baby is any less loved when its born. If two consenting adults do something legal together then good luck to them. Doesn't affect me or you. My 'opinion' is wrong???? It's supposed to be a discussion " It's an opinion. That's what opinion is You opinion is that it's wrong Others opinion may be that it's right Others opinion is that it's none of their business. Opinions are not right or wrong ( unless they are based on incorrect facts.) None of us know the exact situation of the person. We can only surmise . | |||
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"If two consenting adults do something legal together then good luck to them. Doesn't affect me or you. What a sociopathic view! With a serious lack of morales. And here was me thinking humans we're the top of the intelligence chain on the planet. What you describe and seem to endorse is no more than an animalistic social morale stance. Creating life carries a huge level of responsibility. A child s completely innocent and is utterly reliant on its parents and its environment to thrive and grow. By purposefully creating a child (or not taking the necessary precautions to prevent a child being born) with a complete stranger your are still responsible for that life, wether you take responsibility or not. What if that stranger is mentally unstable? has psychological issues? Hasn't the ability, intelligence or character? Is an abuser of children? A paedophile or psychotic? Can't provide enough financially, emotionally? You have created that child and left it to that environment and subjected it to abuse! Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Your attitude is indicative as to why society is diving head first into the toilet" Perfect | |||
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"If two consenting adults do something legal together then good luck to them. Doesn't affect me or you. What a sociopathic view! With a serious lack of morales. And here was me thinking humans we're the top of the intelligence chain on the planet. What you describe and seem to endorse is no more than an animalistic social morale stance. Creating life carries a huge level of responsibility. A child s completely innocent and is utterly reliant on its parents and its environment to thrive and grow. By purposefully creating a child (or not taking the necessary precautions to prevent a child being born) with a complete stranger your are still responsible for that life, wether you take responsibility or not. What if that stranger is mentally unstable? has psychological issues? Hasn't the ability, intelligence or character? Is an abuser of children? A paedophile or psychotic? Can't provide enough financially, emotionally? You have created that child and left it to that environment and subjected it to abuse! Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Your attitude is indicative as to why society is diving head first into the toilet" I'm sociopathic, you're judgemental with zero knowledge of the people involved. You say potato I say potahto let's call the whole thing off. | |||
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"Seen worse. Been asked for worse. Not new, not the lowest." Really? Whats worse than the risk of being impregnated by a diseased psycopathic criminal? | |||
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"Seen worse. Been asked for worse. Not new, not the lowest. Really? Whats worse than the risk of being impregnated by a diseased psycopathic criminal?" Or inpregnating a diseased psycopathic crimal | |||
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"It's a breeding fetish, or maybe it isn't. It's their body and if they can find others to join in then that's up to them. Would I do it? Hell no! Is it my place to sit in judgement on them? Hell no! As a very wise person said to me yesterday; not my circus, not my monkeys. " Spot on. Does me no harm, up to them. At least she's being open about it. Wouldn't be the first woman to pretend to be taking the pill etc to con a man into impregnating her. | |||
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"Seen worse. Been asked for worse. Not new, not the lowest. Really? Whats worse than the risk of being impregnated by a diseased psycopathic criminal?" So that's the kind of people on this website is it? Disease ridden crimial psychpathics..... as opposed to the guys having a tu'penny upright down an alley? Fuck me this site..... | |||
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"Seen worse. Been asked for worse. Not new, not the lowest. Really? Whats worse than the risk of being impregnated by a diseased psycopathic criminal? So that's the kind of people on this website is it? Disease ridden crimial psychpathics..... as opposed to the guys having a tu'penny upright down an alley? Fuck me this site..... " Can you tell me that there aren't any? Why open yourself up to the risk? Is "being a fetish" enough justification for putting a child born with disease at risk? | |||
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"A child should not be produced from the outcome of a swinging fantasy. Castigate me for saying that but my position is clear on this and anyone who sets out to achieve conception through swinging is the absolute wrong person to be a parent. Parenting is hard enough as it is but conceiving a child without knowing the father's background or family history is fraught with danger. The father is also responsible financially for the child and what on earth do you tell that child when it grows up and circumstance happens to inform him or her that the 'dad' he or she knew wasn't daddy at all. This is a human being we're talking about here, not a puppy." Round of applause | |||
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"It means my opinion differs from yours. That's the discussion part. Don'ttake it to heart, might agree on the next thread Ohhhhhh no I won't !!!!!!! " Wow. You don't even know what the next issue is but you've decided you disagree with me on it. It's about ice cream and I think it's nice. | |||
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"So we are all happy that a woman who joins a swinging site and openly advertises the fact she wants to be made pregnant by some random guy who will gladly walk away after he's had his fuck That this lady has solid morals and is a responsible human being ??? " I am happy not judging other people....especially as I am on a swinging site having sex with people I barely know; sometimes with their husband present.... | |||
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"Seen worse. Been asked for worse. Not new, not the lowest. Really? Whats worse than the risk of being impregnated by a diseased psycopathic criminal?" This reads like a daily mail headline! Tea everywhere! If it's meant as a joke then brilliant, if not then I worry what you think of people on here | |||
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"So we are all happy that a woman who joins a swinging site and openly advertises the fact she wants to be made pregnant by some random guy who will gladly walk away after he's had his fuck That this lady has solid morals and is a responsible human being ??? " Yes, very happy; if she is genuine. Who has the say on morals? Are you the Archbishop of Canterbury? Or the Pope? Or God? There are plenty of people " out there" in the real world who would say that everyone on fab have no morals. Eh? Random shagging? NSA? Terrible. Disgusting. They should be locked away, all of them . She probably has very high morals. Just wants a child, but no partner; Perhaps she is a widow; can't imagine having another love of her life after her husband, Perhaps her partner is infertile? Perhaps she is in a same sexy relationship ( oh, of course, that's really disgustingly immoral, too, isn't it ? Perhaps she should be shot for being queer) What is irresponsible? She probably has a good income, a nice house, loving personality, and will make a fantastic mother. You are judging something when you know nothing of the real facts. To be honest, finding someone to inseminate her here is possibly safer than picking up random blokes in pubs; she can assess if the person is " right". And with artificial insemination ( or is that also "immoral"?) she gets no more than a very basic genetic idea. If she wants a tall dark handsome child, or an intelligent child then she can pick a tall dark handsome bloke or an intelligent bloke off here and have a chance at hoping his genes follow through. Get off your high horse. Or as we say over here: " Garde-toi tes onions" | |||
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"Just read a status from a females profile saying "I want to get pregnant" The profile goes on to read she wants men to ejaculate inside her with no names needed. " Did she turn you down....? | |||
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"So we are all happy that a woman who joins a swinging site and openly advertises the fact she wants to be made pregnant by some random guy who will gladly walk away after he's had his fuck That this lady has solid morals and is a responsible human being ??? Yes, very happy; if she is genuine. Who has the say on morals? Are you the Archbishop of Canterbury? Or the Pope? Or God? There are plenty of people " out there" in the real world who would say that everyone on fab have no morals. Eh? Random shagging? NSA? Terrible. Disgusting. They should be locked away, all of them . She probably has very high morals. Just wants a child, but no partner; Perhaps she is a widow; can't imagine having another love of her life after her husband, Perhaps her partner is infertile? Perhaps she is in a same sexy relationship ( oh, of course, that's really disgustingly immoral, too, isn't it ? Perhaps she should be shot for being queer) What is irresponsible? She probably has a good income, a nice house, loving personality, and will make a fantastic mother. You are judging something when you know nothing of the real facts. To be honest, finding someone to inseminate her here is possibly safer than picking up random blokes in pubs; she can assess if the person is " right". And with artificial insemination ( or is that also "immoral"?) she gets no more than a very basic genetic idea. If she wants a tall dark handsome child, or an intelligent child then she can pick a tall dark handsome bloke or an intelligent bloke off here and have a chance at hoping his genes follow through. Get off your high horse. Or as we say over here: " Garde-toi tes onions"" Indeed or people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, let he who is without sin cast the first stone... There's an awful lot of people throwing rocks... But I think you get my point | |||
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"So we are all happy that a woman who joins a swinging site and openly advertises the fact she wants to be made pregnant by some random guy who will gladly walk away after he's had his fuck That this lady has solid morals and is a responsible human being ??? Yes, very happy; if she is genuine. Who has the say on morals? Are you the Archbishop of Canterbury? Or the Pope? Or God? There are plenty of people " out there" in the real world who would say that everyone on fab have no morals. Eh? Random shagging? NSA? Terrible. Disgusting. They should be locked away, all of them . She probably has very high morals. Just wants a child, but no partner; Perhaps she is a widow; can't imagine having another love of her life after her husband, Perhaps her partner is infertile? Perhaps she is in a same sexy relationship ( oh, of course, that's really disgustingly immoral, too, isn't it ? Perhaps she should be shot for being queer) What is irresponsible? She probably has a good income, a nice house, loving personality, and will make a fantastic mother. You are judging something when you know nothing of the real facts. To be honest, finding someone to inseminate her here is possibly safer than picking up random blokes in pubs; she can assess if the person is " right". And with artificial insemination ( or is that also "immoral"?) she gets no more than a very basic genetic idea. If she wants a tall dark handsome child, or an intelligent child then she can pick a tall dark handsome bloke or an intelligent bloke off here and have a chance at hoping his genes follow through. Get off your high horse. Or as we say over here: " Garde-toi tes onions"" It is oddly fitting on this occasion that assumption is the mother of all fuck ups. | |||
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"So we are all happy that a woman who joins a swinging site and openly advertises the fact she wants to be made pregnant by some random guy who will gladly walk away after he's had his fuck That this lady has solid morals and is a responsible human being ??? Yes, very happy; if she is genuine. Who has the say on morals? Are you the Archbishop of Canterbury? Or the Pope? Or God? There are plenty of people " out there" in the real world who would say that everyone on fab have no morals. Eh? Random shagging? NSA? Terrible. Disgusting. They should be locked away, all of them . She probably has very high morals. Just wants a child, but no partner; Perhaps she is a widow; can't imagine having another love of her life after her husband, Perhaps her partner is infertile? Perhaps she is in a same sexy relationship ( oh, of course, that's really disgustingly immoral, too, isn't it ? Perhaps she should be shot for being queer) What is irresponsible? She probably has a good income, a nice house, loving personality, and will make a fantastic mother. You are judging something when you know nothing of the real facts. To be honest, finding someone to inseminate her here is possibly safer than picking up random blokes in pubs; she can assess if the person is " right". And with artificial insemination ( or is that also "immoral"?) she gets no more than a very basic genetic idea. If she wants a tall dark handsome child, or an intelligent child then she can pick a tall dark handsome bloke or an intelligent bloke off here and have a chance at hoping his genes follow through. Get off your high horse. Or as we say over here: " Garde-toi tes onions"" Do you have children ? Oh and thanks for having a really condiscending tone | |||
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"It's a breeding fetish, or maybe it isn't. It's their body and if they can find others to join in then that's up to them. Would I do it? Hell no! Is it my place to sit in judgement on them? Hell no! As a very wise person said to me yesterday; not my circus, not my monkeys. Spot on. Does me no harm, up to them. At least she's being open about it. Wouldn't be the first woman to pretend to be taking the pill etc to con a man into impregnating her." Ahh, so on that ethos Recent terrorist actions and atrocities are perfectly ok then? they've been open and honest about what they've done, and guess by that your sat typing away on this site suggests they've done YOU no harm, all is good? | |||
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"So we are all happy that a woman who joins a swinging site and openly advertises the fact she wants to be made pregnant by some random guy who will gladly walk away after he's had his fuck That this lady has solid morals and is a responsible human being ??? Yes, very happy; if she is genuine. Who has the say on morals? Are you the Archbishop of Canterbury? Or the Pope? Or God? There are plenty of people " out there" in the real world who would say that everyone on fab have no morals. Eh? Random shagging? NSA? Terrible. Disgusting. They should be locked away, all of them . She probably has very high morals. Just wants a child, but no partner; Perhaps she is a widow; can't imagine having another love of her life after her husband, Perhaps her partner is infertile? Perhaps she is in a same sexy relationship ( oh, of course, that's really disgustingly immoral, too, isn't it ? Perhaps she should be shot for being queer) What is irresponsible? She probably has a good income, a nice house, loving personality, and will make a fantastic mother. You are judging something when you know nothing of the real facts. To be honest, finding someone to inseminate her here is possibly safer than picking up random blokes in pubs; she can assess if the person is " right". And with artificial insemination ( or is that also "immoral"?) she gets no more than a very basic genetic idea. If she wants a tall dark handsome child, or an intelligent child then she can pick a tall dark handsome bloke or an intelligent bloke off here and have a chance at hoping his genes follow through. Get off your high horse. Or as we say over here: " Garde-toi tes onions"" largely agree.. although i sort of thought that the God thing would have been raised earlier by some other contributors.. | |||
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"So we are all happy that a woman who joins a swinging site and openly advertises the fact she wants to be made pregnant by some random guy who will gladly walk away after he's had his fuck That this lady has solid morals and is a responsible human being ??? Yes, very happy; if she is genuine. Who has the say on morals? Are you the Archbishop of Canterbury? Or the Pope? Or God? There are plenty of people " out there" in the real world who would say that everyone on fab have no morals. Eh? Random shagging? NSA? Terrible. Disgusting. They should be locked away, all of them . She probably has very high morals. Just wants a child, but no partner; Perhaps she is a widow; can't imagine having another love of her life after her husband, Perhaps her partner is infertile? Perhaps she is in a same sexy relationship ( oh, of course, that's really disgustingly immoral, too, isn't it ? Perhaps she should be shot for being queer) What is irresponsible? She probably has a good income, a nice house, loving personality, and will make a fantastic mother. You are judging something when you know nothing of the real facts. To be honest, finding someone to inseminate her here is possibly safer than picking up random blokes in pubs; she can assess if the person is " right". And with artificial insemination ( or is that also "immoral"?) she gets no more than a very basic genetic idea. If she wants a tall dark handsome child, or an intelligent child then she can pick a tall dark handsome bloke or an intelligent bloke off here and have a chance at hoping his genes follow through. Get off your high horse. Or as we say over here: " Garde-toi tes onions" largely agree.. although i sort of thought that the God thing would have been raised earlier by some other contributors.. " Yep agree as well. But I don't understand taking risks with your health. Surely we all want to stay safe until we know its all clean, right? | |||
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"It's a breeding fetish, or maybe it isn't. It's their body and if they can find others to join in then that's up to them. Would I do it? Hell no! Is it my place to sit in judgement on them? Hell no! As a very wise person said to me yesterday; not my circus, not my monkeys. Spot on. Does me no harm, up to them. At least she's being open about it. Wouldn't be the first woman to pretend to be taking the pill etc to con a man into impregnating her. Ahh, so on that ethos Recent terrorist actions and atrocities are perfectly ok then? they've been open and honest about what they've done, and guess by that your sat typing away on this site suggests they've done YOU no harm, all is good? " Well that's quite a leap. From a lass looking to conceive a child to mass murder.... Enter The Strawman:: Tremendously exaggerating your opponent’s position and then claiming to fight against a position they don’t hold is always a great way to dodge the issues. | |||
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"So we are all happy that a woman who joins a swinging site and openly advertises the fact she wants to be made pregnant by some random guy who will gladly walk away after he's had his fuck That this lady has solid morals and is a responsible human being ??? Yes, very happy; if she is genuine. Who has the say on morals? Are you the Archbishop of Canterbury? Or the Pope? Or God? There are plenty of people " out there" in the real world who would say that everyone on fab have no morals. Eh? Random shagging? NSA? Terrible. Disgusting. They should be locked away, all of them . She probably has very high morals. Just wants a child, but no partner; Perhaps she is a widow; can't imagine having another love of her life after her husband, Perhaps her partner is infertile? Perhaps she is in a same sexy relationship ( oh, of course, that's really disgustingly immoral, too, isn't it ? Perhaps she should be shot for being queer) What is irresponsible? She probably has a good income, a nice house, loving personality, and will make a fantastic mother. You are judging something when you know nothing of the real facts. To be honest, finding someone to inseminate her here is possibly safer than picking up random blokes in pubs; she can assess if the person is " right". And with artificial insemination ( or is that also "immoral"?) she gets no more than a very basic genetic idea. If she wants a tall dark handsome child, or an intelligent child then she can pick a tall dark handsome bloke or an intelligent bloke off here and have a chance at hoping his genes follow through. Get off your high horse. Or as we say over here: " Garde-toi tes onions" largely agree.. although i sort of thought that the God thing would have been raised earlier by some other contributors.. Yep agree as well. But I don't understand taking risks with your health. Surely we all want to stay safe until we know its all clean, right? " That's a risk assessment that individuals must make. | |||
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"It's a breeding fetish, or maybe it isn't. It's their body and if they can find others to join in then that's up to them. Would I do it? Hell no! Is it my place to sit in judgement on them? Hell no! As a very wise person said to me yesterday; not my circus, not my monkeys. Spot on. Does me no harm, up to them. At least she's being open about it. Wouldn't be the first woman to pretend to be taking the pill etc to con a man into impregnating her. Ahh, so on that ethos Recent terrorist actions and atrocities are perfectly ok then? they've been open and honest about what they've done, and guess by that your sat typing away on this site suggests they've done YOU no harm, all is good? " I don't think you can assume that because peoole are not judging the actions of this woman, which will have no consequences for ANY OF US, they we all agree with someone strapping a bomb to themselves and blowing up a load of innocents... I think the problem here is that some people are judging this woman and what she does with her body as if they have a right to do that... Some people assume that she is impoverished, a chat and that she has limited intelligence... because they watch toouch Jeremy Kyle... | |||
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"So we are all happy that a woman who joins a swinging site and openly advertises the fact she wants to be made pregnant by some random guy who will gladly walk away after he's had his fuck That this lady has solid morals and is a responsible human being ??? Yes, very happy; if she is genuine. Who has the say on morals? Are you the Archbishop of Canterbury? Or the Pope? Or God? There are plenty of people " out there" in the real world who would say that everyone on fab have no morals. Eh? Random shagging? NSA? Terrible. Disgusting. They should be locked away, all of them . She probably has very high morals. Just wants a child, but no partner; Perhaps she is a widow; can't imagine having another love of her life after her husband, Perhaps her partner is infertile? Perhaps she is in a same sexy relationship ( oh, of course, that's really disgustingly immoral, too, isn't it ? Perhaps she should be shot for being queer) What is irresponsible? She probably has a good income, a nice house, loving personality, and will make a fantastic mother. You are judging something when you know nothing of the real facts. To be honest, finding someone to inseminate her here is possibly safer than picking up random blokes in pubs; she can assess if the person is " right". And with artificial insemination ( or is that also "immoral"?) she gets no more than a very basic genetic idea. If she wants a tall dark handsome child, or an intelligent child then she can pick a tall dark handsome bloke or an intelligent bloke off here and have a chance at hoping his genes follow through. Get off your high horse. Or as we say over here: " Garde-toi tes onions" largely agree.. although i sort of thought that the God thing would have been raised earlier by some other contributors.. Yep agree as well. But I don't understand taking risks with your health. Surely we all want to stay safe until we know its all clean, right? " i think when it comes to what is for some NSA sex the only thing one can do is treat all others as if they may not be so 'clean' and look after ones own sexual health.. may sound a bit harsh but similar to if one cycles or has rode a motorbike, assume every other road user has you in their sights and ride accordingly.. | |||
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"So we are all happy that a woman who joins a swinging site and openly advertises the fact she wants to be made pregnant by some random guy who will gladly walk away after he's had his fuck That this lady has solid morals and is a responsible human being ??? Yes, very happy; if she is genuine. Who has the say on morals? Are you the Archbishop of Canterbury? Or the Pope? Or God? There are plenty of people " out there" in the real world who would say that everyone on fab have no morals. Eh? Random shagging? NSA? Terrible. Disgusting. They should be locked away, all of them . She probably has very high morals. Just wants a child, but no partner; Perhaps she is a widow; can't imagine having another love of her life after her husband, Perhaps her partner is infertile? Perhaps she is in a same sexy relationship ( oh, of course, that's really disgustingly immoral, too, isn't it ? Perhaps she should be shot for being queer) What is irresponsible? She probably has a good income, a nice house, loving personality, and will make a fantastic mother. You are judging something when you know nothing of the real facts. To be honest, finding someone to inseminate her here is possibly safer than picking up random blokes in pubs; she can assess if the person is " right". And with artificial insemination ( or is that also "immoral"?) she gets no more than a very basic genetic idea. If she wants a tall dark handsome child, or an intelligent child then she can pick a tall dark handsome bloke or an intelligent bloke off here and have a chance at hoping his genes follow through. Get off your high horse. Or as we say over here: " Garde-toi tes onions" Do you have children ? Oh and thanks for having a really condiscending tone " Glad you appreciate it. ( condescending, BTW). You earned it by your moralising tone; and by assuming that your opinion was the only one that was correct: And by moralising on something you know nothing about, nor do you know the woman's actual circumstances. And by the way, I have two single mother freinds, successful in their careers, who did exactly this, and their children have no idea who their fathers are. And who are themselves beautiful, well adjusted, successful young people. Contrasted with some divorcees, who had their children " properly", whose children have been severely damaged by the marital issues and divorces. | |||
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"It's nothing new. Ether they like bareback as already said or possibly just genuinely desperate for kids who knows. Could also be shock value I suppose " Agree with the latter comment | |||
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"I couldn't do it. Knowing there was the possibility of my flesh and blood out there and not knowing what they looked like, imparting my wisdom, missing growth goals and milestones, and growing up and seeing them turn into adults, as well as not having a choice or ability to do my fatherly duties and responsibilities would eat me up inside. Really never understood any bloke that can father a child and happily walk away from all that.." Exactly, the poor bastard would have an irresponsible father and probably a very selfish mother. Great start to life. Yes it does effect me because I'm a taxpayer and we end up paying for the bottom of society which is usually where people with traumatic childhoods end up. | |||
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"So we are all happy that a woman who joins a swinging site and openly advertises the fact she wants to be made pregnant by some random guy who will gladly walk away after he's had his fuck That this lady has solid morals and is a responsible human being ??? Yes, very happy; if she is genuine. Who has the say on morals? Are you the Archbishop of Canterbury? Or the Pope? Or God? There are plenty of people " out there" in the real world who would say that everyone on fab have no morals. Eh? Random shagging? NSA? Terrible. Disgusting. They should be locked away, all of them . She probably has very high morals. Just wants a child, but no partner; Perhaps she is a widow; can't imagine having another love of her life after her husband, Perhaps her partner is infertile? Perhaps she is in a same sexy relationship ( oh, of course, that's really disgustingly immoral, too, isn't it ? Perhaps she should be shot for being queer) What is irresponsible? She probably has a good income, a nice house, loving personality, and will make a fantastic mother. You are judging something when you know nothing of the real facts. To be honest, finding someone to inseminate her here is possibly safer than picking up random blokes in pubs; she can assess if the person is " right". And with artificial insemination ( or is that also "immoral"?) she gets no more than a very basic genetic idea. If she wants a tall dark handsome child, or an intelligent child then she can pick a tall dark handsome bloke or an intelligent bloke off here and have a chance at hoping his genes follow through. Get off your high horse. Or as we say over here: " Garde-toi tes onions" Do you have children ? Oh and thanks for having a really condiscending tone Glad you appreciate it. ( condescending, BTW). You earned it by your moralising tone; and by assuming that your opinion was the only one that was correct: And by moralising on something you know nothing about, nor do you know the woman's actual circumstances. And by the way, I have two single mother freinds, successful in their careers, who did exactly this, and their children have no idea who their fathers are. And who are themselves beautiful, well adjusted, successful young people. Contrasted with some divorcees, who had their children " properly", whose children have been severely damaged by the marital issues and divorces. " Funnily enough Through your wordy nonsense you chose not to answer my question Yes it's my opinion and my opinion is just this You have yours However there is also a moral issue here I am sure your friends have done a fabulous job raising these children But they missed out on having not a father but a 'dad' Massive difference | |||
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"A child should not be produced from the outcome of a swinging fantasy. Castigate me for saying that but my position is clear on this and anyone who sets out to achieve conception through swinging is the absolute wrong person to be a parent. Parenting is hard enough as it is but conceiving a child without knowing the father's background or family history is fraught with danger. The father is also responsible financially for the child and what on earth do you tell that child when it grows up and circumstance happens to inform him or her that the 'dad' he or she knew wasn't daddy at all. This is a human being we're talking about here, not a puppy." We do not know if those women asking to be made pregnant are indulging in a swinging fantasy as you put it. As we stated in an earlier post she could be part of a childless couple desperate for a child who the NHS have been unable to help. We do not know. The man who provides the sperm to father the child does not have to be part of the child’s life, many couples have children by artificial insemination and the child is brought up in a stable family relationship. A mother in those circumstances knows nothing about the donor’s background or family history. Many children are told daily that the 'dad' he or she knew wasn't daddy at all, it takes more that sperm to be a 'dad' to a child, the sperm donor is just that a sperm donor. When we married we had been courting long distance for about two years we actually knew very little about each other and had only spent a total of about two weeks in each others company over that time. We are still happily married 36 years later with adult children. If we had listened to your argument our children would not be here today, life is not as simple or as perfect as some here imagine. | |||
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"It's a breeding fetish, or maybe it isn't. It's their body and if they can find others to join in then that's up to them. Would I do it? Hell no! Is it my place to sit in judgement on them? Hell no! As a very wise person said to me yesterday; not my circus, not my monkeys. Spot on. Does me no harm, up to them. At least she's being open about it. Wouldn't be the first woman to pretend to be taking the pill etc to con a man into impregnating her. Ahh, so on that ethos Recent terrorist actions and atrocities are perfectly ok then? they've been open and honest about what they've done, and guess by that your sat typing away on this site suggests they've done YOU no harm, all is good? Well that's quite a leap. From a lass looking to conceive a child to mass murder.... Enter The Strawman:: Tremendously exaggerating your opponent’s position and then claiming to fight against a position they don’t hold is always a great way to dodge the issues. " Not at all, it carries the same ethos to which you are suggesting is ok. I see can't argue against the point though, just criticise the manner in which the debate is conducted against you, which is also indicative that you can't summon an intelligent retort to the contrary. | |||
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"there is a shit load of assumptions being put out about people who choose a lifestyle choice which we know fuck all about.. making further assumptions to support them are equally without foundation.. the circumstances that lead some people to go down that avenue and the circumstances that they may have taken into account for after may be all well and good for them and any child that may result, financially, emotionally etc.. we don't live in a perfect world and people are not perfect in their choices which ironically includes each and every one of us when one (and others) starts to judge other's based on ones own personal morals.." Indeed! In fact I would say for anyone to denounce someone for being open and honest about their wish to get pregnant is the real low here. OP, what would you rather the lady do, deceive those who contact her and potentially con someone into fathering her child? | |||
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"So we are all happy that a woman who joins a swinging site and openly advertises the fact she wants to be made pregnant by some random guy who will gladly walk away after he's had his fuck That this lady has solid morals and is a responsible human being ??? Yes, very happy; if she is genuine. Who has the say on morals? Are you the Archbishop of Canterbury? Or the Pope? Or God? There are plenty of people " out there" in the real world who would say that everyone on fab have no morals. Eh? Random shagging? NSA? Terrible. Disgusting. They should be locked away, all of them . She probably has very high morals. Just wants a child, but no partner; Perhaps she is a widow; can't imagine having another love of her life after her husband, Perhaps her partner is infertile? Perhaps she is in a same sexy relationship ( oh, of course, that's really disgustingly immoral, too, isn't it ? Perhaps she should be shot for being queer) What is irresponsible? She probably has a good income, a nice house, loving personality, and will make a fantastic mother. You are judging something when you know nothing of the real facts. To be honest, finding someone to inseminate her here is possibly safer than picking up random blokes in pubs; she can assess if the person is " right". And with artificial insemination ( or is that also "immoral"?) she gets no more than a very basic genetic idea. If she wants a tall dark handsome child, or an intelligent child then she can pick a tall dark handsome bloke or an intelligent bloke off here and have a chance at hoping his genes follow through. Get off your high horse. Or as we say over here: " Garde-toi tes onions" Do you have children ? Oh and thanks for having a really condiscending tone Glad you appreciate it. ( condescending, BTW). You earned it by your moralising tone; and by assuming that your opinion was the only one that was correct: And by moralising on something you know nothing about, nor do you know the woman's actual circumstances. And by the way, I have two single mother freinds, successful in their careers, who did exactly this, and their children have no idea who their fathers are. And who are themselves beautiful, well adjusted, successful young people. Contrasted with some divorcees, who had their children " properly", whose children have been severely damaged by the marital issues and divorces. Funnily enough Through your wordy nonsense you chose not to answer my question Yes it's my opinion and my opinion is just this You have yours However there is also a moral issue here I am sure your friends have done a fabulous job raising these children But they missed out on having not a father but a 'dad' Massive difference " Just to not answer your question; it is irrelevant to the debate whether I have children or not. And none of your business. Hence why I am not discussing that point. As usual, there are people making assumptions and moralising and judging a person and situation about whom and which they know nothing. And there are reasonable people who accept that there are many possible explanations;and thus a judgement cannot be made. | |||
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"there is a shit load of assumptions being put out about people who choose a lifestyle choice which we know fuck all about.. making further assumptions to support them are equally without foundation.. the circumstances that lead some people to go down that avenue and the circumstances that they may have taken into account for after may be all well and good for them and any child that may result, financially, emotionally etc.. we don't live in a perfect world and people are not perfect in their choices which ironically includes each and every one of us when one (and others) starts to judge other's based on ones own personal morals.. Indeed! In fact I would say for anyone to denounce someone for being open and honest about their wish to get pregnant is the real low here. OP, what would you rather the lady do, deceive those who contact her and potentially con someone into fathering her child?" I want to commit crimes that will affect people's lives forever It's ok I'm being open and honest So it's acceptable | |||
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"Are we not debating to your rules of debate in a way that you can't argue against our point? Awe diddums, shall we pick that dummy up for you you just threw out the pram?" Oh dear, name calling now, we really have it the bottom of the barrel haven't we? Knowing nothing about the lass, we can't judge. She's capable of having a baby another way from a one night stand at any time as all women are. She's chosen to try get to know her one night stand beforehand, which suggests pre thought and an intelligent approach, as well as informing the prospective father what the situation and circumstances are. An indication of honesty and integrity. Not for me, and not for me to judge. | |||
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"there is a shit load of assumptions being put out about people who choose a lifestyle choice which we know fuck all about.. making further assumptions to support them are equally without foundation.. the circumstances that lead some people to go down that avenue and the circumstances that they may have taken into account for after may be all well and good for them and any child that may result, financially, emotionally etc.. we don't live in a perfect world and people are not perfect in their choices which ironically includes each and every one of us when one (and others) starts to judge other's based on ones own personal morals.. Indeed! In fact I would say for anyone to denounce someone for being open and honest about their wish to get pregnant is the real low here. OP, what would you rather the lady do, deceive those who contact her and potentially con someone into fathering her child? I want to commit crimes that will affect people's lives forever It's ok I'm being open and honest So it's acceptable " So you want to commit crimes? Then that is a criminal ( thus socially immoral) act. Crime is not socially acceptable. The lady is not contemplating committing a crime. ( last time I looked, it wasn't a crime to have children) Now you are using a common tactic of conflating two different things as one. And comparing committing crime to a personal lifestyle ( and non- criminal) choice . | |||
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" there's nothing like a bareback breeding grenade tossed into the forum for maximum moral combustion " Anyone got an opinion on whether the EU/UKIP have any position on this? | |||
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" there's nothing like a bareback breeding grenade tossed into the forum for maximum moral combustion Anyone got an opinion on whether the EU/UKIP have any position on this? " Not sure But I'm starting a 'shake it all about' group | |||
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"What a crap thread "Someone doesn't live up to my moral ideals and therefore are the "lowest" form of human..... Live and let live, don't like, walk away? Don't like that other people don't judge? Walk away. Don't make a thread condemning a person that absolutely nobody knows (in this thread) and then assume that because you hold this "moral" highground, people will form a shield wall around you. We get it, you don't like someone having freedom over their own body, fine, you don't like that they are honest enough to post that in a status message, fine....... Resulting to insults a) about the woman in question and b0 about people that do not judge said woman, says a lot more about how "low" this website has become. Lets kick the people that don't wish to "defend" themselves (god knows why they would have to) and compare them to terrorists..... Theirs morals and theirs stupidity, normally by shouting about the former, one exposes the latter..." This is why we need an applause smiley. Three thumbs up will have to do. | |||
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"So we are all happy that a woman who joins a swinging site and openly advertises the fact she wants to be made pregnant by some random guy who will gladly walk away after he's had his fuck That this lady has solid morals and is a responsible human being ??? " Ecstatic! | |||
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"What a crap thread "Someone doesn't live up to my moral ideals and therefore are the "lowest" form of human..... Live and let live, don't like, walk away? Don't like that other people don't judge? Walk away. Don't make a thread condemning a person that absolutely nobody knows (in this thread) and then assume that because you hold this "moral" highground, people will form a shield wall around you. We get it, you don't like someone having freedom over their own body, fine, you don't like that they are honest enough to post that in a status message, fine....... Resulting to insults a) about the woman in question and b0 about people that do not judge said woman, says a lot more about how "low" this website has become. Lets kick the people that don't wish to "defend" themselves (god knows why they would have to) and compare them to terrorists..... Theirs morals and theirs stupidity, normally by shouting about the former, one exposes the latter... This is why we need an applause smiley. Three thumbs up will have to do. " AI spelt "there's" as "theirs" fcuk knows why, no applause for poor spelling, I am so ashamed.. | |||
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"Just read a status from a females profile saying "I want to get pregnant" The profile goes on to read she wants men to ejaculate inside her with no names needed. How, if serious, can people put themselves at risk like that?" You've clearly never been out of a Saturday night in most British cities - this sort of stuff goes on all the time and has done for years! Indeed popular Swedish pop combo 'Ace of Bass' once wrote a hit song about it | |||
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"So we are all happy that a woman who joins a swinging site and openly advertises the fact she wants to be made pregnant by some random guy who will gladly walk away after he's had his fuck That this lady has solid morals and is a responsible human being ??? Ecstatic! " I know this is controversial, but swinging site.....moral judgement.....? So....... fucking someone elses wife? thats okay is it? This place be getting all twisty...... the woman is being honest and for that, she is being slated...... I always thought honesty was the highest moral.... | |||
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"I raised this a few weeks ago and voiced my concerns The usual human rights campaigners telling me it's their choice Unbelievable " Aye, much better to tell people what they can and cannot do with their bodies. That will make everything better. Not everyone sees the world in the same way. People who disagree with you are not wrong. They are different. | |||
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"Does seem a bit grotty though, whichever way you look at it" Only to you and those who share your views. Even if they are in the majority, it doesn't mean that any other views are wrong. I would never carry out what the post in question was requesting as I don't like it. But that only means that I and she are of differing opinions. It does not mean that opinions which differ to mine are wrong or their holders are inferior. Just different. No one is getting harmed. | |||
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"I love the phrase 'No one is getting harmed' Just a fatherless child No biggy" Single mum here dad walked away x | |||
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"I raised this a few weeks ago and voiced my concerns The usual human rights campaigners telling me it's their choice Unbelievable Do you believe it's real though? And is it different to going to a pub and pulling anyone ? Really ? Yeah I think it's real I also think it's very wrong A baby born from no love Would a guy really be that desperate for a shag ????" I wasn't born out of love but I am loved. Xxx | |||
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"A child should not be produced from the outcome of a swinging fantasy. Castigate me for saying that but my position is clear on this and anyone who sets out to achieve conception through swinging is the absolute wrong person to be a parent. Parenting is hard enough as it is but conceiving a child without knowing the father's background or family history is fraught with danger. The father is also responsible financially for the child and what on earth do you tell that child when it grows up and circumstance happens to inform him or her that the 'dad' he or she knew wasn't daddy at all. This is a human being we're talking about here, not a puppy." So where does that put adopted children??? | |||
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"A child should not be produced from the outcome of a swinging fantasy. Castigate me for saying that but my position is clear on this and anyone who sets out to achieve conception through swinging is the absolute wrong person to be a parent. Parenting is hard enough as it is but conceiving a child without knowing the father's background or family history is fraught with danger. The father is also responsible financially for the child and what on earth do you tell that child when it grows up and circumstance happens to inform him or her that the 'dad' he or she knew wasn't daddy at all. This is a human being we're talking about here, not a puppy. So where does that put adopted children???" Adopted children don't appear in Utopia where ALL children are planned and conceived by two people that will stay together until the turning of the world...... The judgement in this thread, backed up by alarmist and insulting comparisons is beyond the pale... | |||
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"A child should not be produced from the outcome of a swinging fantasy. Castigate me for saying that but my position is clear on this and anyone who sets out to achieve conception through swinging is the absolute wrong person to be a parent. Parenting is hard enough as it is but conceiving a child without knowing the father's background or family history is fraught with danger. The father is also responsible financially for the child and what on earth do you tell that child when it grows up and circumstance happens to inform him or her that the 'dad' he or she knew wasn't daddy at all. This is a human being we're talking about here, not a puppy. So where does that put adopted children???" I fail to see any synergy between adopted children and what we're discussing on this thread. I'm sure the adoption service carry out background checks on the children they are placing with families where possible as well as checks on the prospective parents. | |||
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"I couldn't do it. Knowing there was the possibility of my flesh and blood out there and not knowing what they looked like, imparting my wisdom, missing growth goals and milestones, and growing up and seeing them turn into adults, as well as not having a choice or ability to do my fatherly duties and responsibilities would eat me up inside. Really never understood any bloke that can father a child and happily walk away from all that.. Exactly, the poor bastard would have an irresponsible father and probably a very selfish mother. Great start to life. Yes it does effect me because I'm a taxpayer and we end up paying for the bottom of society which is usually where people with traumatic childhoods end up. " Thanks for that insite. I assume your perfect? | |||
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"A child should not be produced from the outcome of a swinging fantasy. Castigate me for saying that but my position is clear on this and anyone who sets out to achieve conception through swinging is the absolute wrong person to be a parent. Parenting is hard enough as it is but conceiving a child without knowing the father's background or family history is fraught with danger. The father is also responsible financially for the child and what on earth do you tell that child when it grows up and circumstance happens to inform him or her that the 'dad' he or she knew wasn't daddy at all. This is a human being we're talking about here, not a puppy. So where does that put adopted children??? Adopted children don't appear in Utopia where ALL children are planned and conceived by two people that will stay together until the turning of the world...... The judgement in this thread, backed up by alarmist and insulting comparisons is beyond the pale..." xxx | |||
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"A child should not be produced from the outcome of a swinging fantasy. Castigate me for saying that but my position is clear on this and anyone who sets out to achieve conception through swinging is the absolute wrong person to be a parent. Parenting is hard enough as it is but conceiving a child without knowing the father's background or family history is fraught with danger. The father is also responsible financially for the child and what on earth do you tell that child when it grows up and circumstance happens to inform him or her that the 'dad' he or she knew wasn't daddy at all. This is a human being we're talking about here, not a puppy. So where does that put adopted children??? I fail to see any synergy between adopted children and what we're discussing on this thread. I'm sure the adoption service carry out background checks on the children they are placing with families where possible as well as checks on the prospective parents. " My point is adopted children don't know thier backgrounds either. | |||
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"So we are all happy that a woman who joins a swinging site and openly advertises the fact she wants to be made pregnant by some random guy who will gladly walk away after he's had his fuck That this lady has solid morals and is a responsible human being ??? Yes, very happy; if she is genuine. Who has the say on morals? Are you the Archbishop of Canterbury? Or the Pope? Or God? There are plenty of people " out there" in the real world who would say that everyone on fab have no morals. Eh? Random shagging? NSA? Terrible. Disgusting. They should be locked away, all of them . She probably has very high morals. Just wants a child, but no partner; Perhaps she is a widow; can't imagine having another love of her life after her husband, Perhaps her partner is infertile? Perhaps she is in a same sexy relationship ( oh, of course, that's really disgustingly immoral, too, isn't it ? Perhaps she should be shot for being queer) What is irresponsible? She probably has a good income, a nice house, loving personality, and will make a fantastic mother. You are judging something when you know nothing of the real facts. To be honest, finding someone to inseminate her here is possibly safer than picking up random blokes in pubs; she can assess if the person is " right". And with artificial insemination ( or is that also "immoral"?) she gets no more than a very basic genetic idea. If she wants a tall dark handsome child, or an intelligent child then she can pick a tall dark handsome bloke or an intelligent bloke off here and have a chance at hoping his genes follow through. Get off your high horse. Or as we say over here: " Garde-toi tes onions" Do you have children ? Oh and thanks for having a really condiscending tone Glad you appreciate it. ( condescending, BTW). You earned it by your moralising tone; and by assuming that your opinion was the only one that was correct: And by moralising on something you know nothing about, nor do you know the woman's actual circumstances. And by the way, I have two single mother freinds, successful in their careers, who did exactly this, and their children have no idea who their fathers are. And who are themselves beautiful, well adjusted, successful young people. Contrasted with some divorcees, who had their children " properly", whose children have been severely damaged by the marital issues and divorces. Funnily enough Through your wordy nonsense you chose not to answer my question Yes it's my opinion and my opinion is just this You have yours However there is also a moral issue here I am sure your friends have done a fabulous job raising these children But they missed out on having not a father but a 'dad' Massive difference " Bullshit! Dad father are just words! Names! Nothing to do with how children are brought up. Put your Clinton cards mug away! | |||
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"I raised this a few weeks ago and voiced my concerns The usual human rights campaigners telling me it's their choice Unbelievable Do you believe it's real though? And is it different to going to a pub and pulling anyone ? Really ? Yeah I think it's real I also think it's very wrong A baby born from no love Would a guy really be that desperate for a shag ???? Oh good God get over yourself. Do you really believe all babies are conceived in a Disney movie? Many a baby was conceived in a quick shufty in an alley behind a pub. Doesn't mean the baby is any less loved when its born. If two consenting adults do something legal together then good luck to them. Doesn't affect me or you. My 'opinion' is wrong???? It's supposed to be a discussion " In mine and many other peoples opinion it is. If we all agreed with your opinion there would be no discussion. You're entitled to your opinion and you're entitled to express it but equally we are entitled to ours and our opinion is that your opinion is wrong. And we are equally entitled to say so. | |||
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"So we are all happy that a woman who joins a swinging site and openly advertises the fact she wants to be made pregnant by some random guy who will gladly walk away after he's had his fuck That this lady has solid morals and is a responsible human being ??? Yes, very happy; if she is genuine. Who has the say on morals? Are you the Archbishop of Canterbury? Or the Pope? Or God? There are plenty of people " out there" in the real world who would say that everyone on fab have no morals. Eh? Random shagging? NSA? Terrible. Disgusting. They should be locked away, all of them . She probably has very high morals. Just wants a child, but no partner; Perhaps she is a widow; can't imagine having another love of her life after her husband, Perhaps her partner is infertile? Perhaps she is in a same sexy relationship ( oh, of course, that's really disgustingly immoral, too, isn't it ? Perhaps she should be shot for being queer) What is irresponsible? She probably has a good income, a nice house, loving personality, and will make a fantastic mother. You are judging something when you know nothing of the real facts. To be honest, finding someone to inseminate her here is possibly safer than picking up random blokes in pubs; she can assess if the person is " right". And with artificial insemination ( or is that also "immoral"?) she gets no more than a very basic genetic idea. If she wants a tall dark handsome child, or an intelligent child then she can pick a tall dark handsome bloke or an intelligent bloke off here and have a chance at hoping his genes follow through. Get off your high horse. Or as we say over here: " Garde-toi tes onions" Do you have children ? Oh and thanks for having a really condiscending tone Glad you appreciate it. ( condescending, BTW). You earned it by your moralising tone; and by assuming that your opinion was the only one that was correct: And by moralising on something you know nothing about, nor do you know the woman's actual circumstances. And by the way, I have two single mother freinds, successful in their careers, who did exactly this, and their children have no idea who their fathers are. And who are themselves beautiful, well adjusted, successful young people. Contrasted with some divorcees, who had their children " properly", whose children have been severely damaged by the marital issues and divorces. Funnily enough Through your wordy nonsense you chose not to answer my question Yes it's my opinion and my opinion is just this You have yours However there is also a moral issue here I am sure your friends have done a fabulous job raising these children But they missed out on having not a father but a 'dad' Massive difference Bullshit! Dad father are just words! Names! Nothing to do with how children are brought up. Put your Clinton cards mug away!" A father is the donor A dad is the man who brings his children up I'm a dad Not a father | |||
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"Are we not debating to your rules of debate in a way that you can't argue against our point? Awe diddums, shall we pick that dummy up for you you just threw out the pram? Oh dear, name calling now, we really have it the bottom of the barrel haven't we? Knowing nothing about the lass, we can't judge. She's capable of having a baby another way from a one night stand at any time as all women are. She's chosen to try get to know her one night stand beforehand, which suggests pre thought and an intelligent approach, as well as informing the prospective father what the situation and circumstances are. An indication of honesty and integrity. Not for me, and not for me to judge." Which is far more than some baby get. Xxx | |||
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"I raised this a few weeks ago and voiced my concerns The usual human rights campaigners telling me it's their choice Unbelievable So what you suggest be done then? Oh I think not using a swinging site to find a donor would be a reasonable start " why? is it any more to your preference than a pub, club etc.. some people who choose to use a 'stranger' for this may not be able to afford or wish to have their details on the public record by using some of the options you have referred to.. the issue seems to be on the act of conception and that there is not some nirvana type environment at that point and its the later stages in that child's life and how they are raised in a secure, loving environment that is what will matter most for them in their lives.. | |||
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"So we are all happy that a woman who joins a swinging site and openly advertises the fact she wants to be made pregnant by some random guy who will gladly walk away after he's had his fuck That this lady has solid morals and is a responsible human being ??? Yes, very happy; if she is genuine. Who has the say on morals? Are you the Archbishop of Canterbury? Or the Pope? Or God? There are plenty of people " out there" in the real world who would say that everyone on fab have no morals. Eh? Random shagging? NSA? Terrible. Disgusting. They should be locked away, all of them . She probably has very high morals. Just wants a child, but no partner; Perhaps she is a widow; can't imagine having another love of her life after her husband, Perhaps her partner is infertile? Perhaps she is in a same sexy relationship ( oh, of course, that's really disgustingly immoral, too, isn't it ? Perhaps she should be shot for being queer) What is irresponsible? She probably has a good income, a nice house, loving personality, and will make a fantastic mother. You are judging something when you know nothing of the real facts. To be honest, finding someone to inseminate her here is possibly safer than picking up random blokes in pubs; she can assess if the person is " right". And with artificial insemination ( or is that also "immoral"?) she gets no more than a very basic genetic idea. If she wants a tall dark handsome child, or an intelligent child then she can pick a tall dark handsome bloke or an intelligent bloke off here and have a chance at hoping his genes follow through. Get off your high horse. Or as we say over here: " Garde-toi tes onions" Do you have children ? Oh and thanks for having a really condiscending tone Glad you appreciate it. ( condescending, BTW). You earned it by your moralising tone; and by assuming that your opinion was the only one that was correct: And by moralising on something you know nothing about, nor do you know the woman's actual circumstances. And by the way, I have two single mother freinds, successful in their careers, who did exactly this, and their children have no idea who their fathers are. And who are themselves beautiful, well adjusted, successful young people. Contrasted with some divorcees, who had their children " properly", whose children have been severely damaged by the marital issues and divorces. Funnily enough Through your wordy nonsense you chose not to answer my question Yes it's my opinion and my opinion is just this You have yours However there is also a moral issue here I am sure your friends have done a fabulous job raising these children But they missed out on having not a father but a 'dad' Massive difference Bullshit! Dad father are just words! Names! Nothing to do with how children are brought up. Put your Clinton cards mug away! A father is the donor A dad is the man who brings his children up I'm a dad Not a father " Oh n btw my "sperm donor" was a rapist and pedofile! | |||
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"Seen worse. Been asked for worse. Not new, not the lowest. Really? Whats worse than the risk of being impregnated by a diseased psycopathic criminal? Or inpregnating a diseased psycopathic crimal" Being the offspring of a diseased,psychopathic criminal. "Mum,who's me da?" "Fuck knows love (drags on a roll up) I had a breeding fetish and let loads of men spunk up me 10 years ago,it's ok though,I still luv ya (grabs a can of Stella)" | |||
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"Ok Time to walk away Stupids taking over Stupid because they don't agree with you ? Oh well ..... " I rest my case | |||
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"What some of us are trying to say is that if a child can be conceived inside a loving family unit then surely that is the best environment to raise that child in. Sure, things don't work out between some couples (I have three children from two marriages) but those kids are still loved. If a man decides to walk away entirely he is still financially responsible for his offspring. To come onto a site like this to specifically get pregnant is morally irresponsible at best and I would seriously question the mental capacity of anyone involved in accomplishing it. And what about the poor child produced as a result? What if it's mother at some point in the future suffered a mental breakdown and blasted out to her child "you were the result of a swinging fantasy. I don't even know your dad's real name, Mr FunkySpunkBubble I think." (Apologies if someone actually has that username lol)" so we should instead throw insults at them until they leave? Burn the witch eh? Or perhaps we should impose our own morals on other people; like terrorists do? See what I did there? | |||
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"I know quite a lot of children who don't have a dad,or lost him somehow. Mums do the best they can but they still miss having a dad,it's natural. Which is why many go looking when they get old enough. " but sadly that doest always work out for the best. But In my experience I don't regret going looking. In fact it made me stronger knowing my background. I personally think that although it's not an ideal way to have a baby it's better then some random at a bar or club because the male can be vetted to a certain degree. Xxx | |||
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"What some of us are trying to say is that if a child can be conceived inside a loving family unit then surely that is the best environment to raise that child in. Sure, things don't work out between some couples (I have three children from two marriages) but those kids are still loved. If a man decides to walk away entirely he is still financially responsible for his offspring. To come onto a site like this to specifically get pregnant is morally irresponsible at best and I would seriously question the mental capacity of anyone involved in accomplishing it. And what about the poor child produced as a result? What if it's mother at some point in the future suffered a mental breakdown and blasted out to her child "you were the result of a swinging fantasy. I don't even know your dad's real name, Mr FunkySpunkBubble I think." (Apologies if someone actually has that username lol)" | |||
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"What some of us are trying to say is that if a child can be conceived inside a loving family unit then surely that is the best environment to raise that child in. Sure, things don't work out between some couples (I have three children from two marriages) but those kids are still loved. If a man decides to walk away entirely he is still financially responsible for his offspring. To come onto a site like this to specifically get pregnant is morally irresponsible at best and I would seriously question the mental capacity of anyone involved in accomplishing it. And what about the poor child produced as a result? What if it's mother at some point in the future suffered a mental breakdown and blasted out to her child "you were the result of a swinging fantasy. I don't even know your dad's real name, Mr FunkySpunkBubble I think." (Apologies if someone actually has that username lol)" its a fair point and well said but sadly some of the others who may share the same sentiment have presented their point of view in ways which are bound to prompt a response.. maybe that was their point.. | |||
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"Oh is the witch hunt over? Have swingers stopped judging other peoples morals and creating terrible, hideous scenarios for a random stranger based on a status message.... Okay Snog, Fuck or Avoid..... Hey,can't we be free to make our thoughts on unusual sexual practices known? Should we have to agree with everything everyone does on here,I know I don't. We can of course make our thoughts and opinions available to all; however singling out one member (and please don't say she is anonymous, anyone that knows where the OP lives can do a search and soon "discover" her) and then vilifying them on a forum is terrible... truly terrible I can't ever agree to that " She put it up there for all and sundry to see. It's hardly a secret,but I don't agree with picking out a person to have a dig at on here. | |||
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"Oh is the witch hunt over? Have swingers stopped judging other peoples morals and creating terrible, hideous scenarios for a random stranger based on a status message.... Okay Snog, Fuck or Avoid..... Hey,can't we be free to make our thoughts on unusual sexual practices known? Should we have to agree with everything everyone does on here,I know I don't. We can of course make our thoughts and opinions available to all; however singling out one member (and please don't say she is anonymous, anyone that knows where the OP lives can do a search and soon "discover" her) and then vilifying them on a forum is terrible... truly terrible I can't ever agree to that She put it up there for all and sundry to see. It's hardly a secret,but I don't agree with picking out a person to have a dig at on here. " She put it on her status, she didn't post it on the forum and invite comment. I find this thread and some of the vitriolic condemnation on it the new "low" of fab..... when will people just leave other people alone? Without imposing their own morals on them? | |||
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"Oh is the witch hunt over? Have swingers stopped judging other peoples morals and creating terrible, hideous scenarios for a random stranger based on a status message.... Okay Snog, Fuck or Avoid..... Hey,can't we be free to make our thoughts on unusual sexual practices known? Should we have to agree with everything everyone does on here,I know I don't. We can of course make our thoughts and opinions available to all; however singling out one member (and please don't say she is anonymous, anyone that knows where the OP lives can do a search and soon "discover" her) and then vilifying them on a forum is terrible... truly terrible I can't ever agree to that She put it up there for all and sundry to see. It's hardly a secret,but I don't agree with picking out a person to have a dig at on here. She put it on her status, she didn't post it on the forum and invite comment. I find this thread and some of the vitriolic condemnation on it the new "low" of fab..... when will people just leave other people alone? Without imposing their own morals on them?" True,but people like to discuss others and their sexual perversions. | |||
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"I couldn't do it. Knowing there was the possibility of my flesh and blood out there and not knowing what they looked like, imparting my wisdom, missing growth goals and milestones, and growing up and seeing them turn into adults, as well as not having a choice or ability to do my fatherly duties and responsibilities would eat me up inside. Really never understood any bloke that can father a child and happily walk away from all that.. Exactly, the poor bastard would have an irresponsible father and probably a very selfish mother. Great start to life. Yes it does effect me because I'm a taxpayer and we end up paying for the bottom of society which is usually where people with traumatic childhoods end up. Thanks for that insite. I assume your perfect?" Being perfect is not a prerequisite for being able to judge the probability that a situation is going to turn out well. | |||
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"I couldn't do it. Knowing there was the possibility of my flesh and blood out there and not knowing what they looked like, imparting my wisdom, missing growth goals and milestones, and growing up and seeing them turn into adults, as well as not having a choice or ability to do my fatherly duties and responsibilities would eat me up inside. Really never understood any bloke that can father a child and happily walk away from all that.. Exactly, the poor bastard would have an irresponsible father and probably a very selfish mother. Great start to life. Yes it does effect me because I'm a taxpayer and we end up paying for the bottom of society which is usually where people with traumatic childhoods end up. Thanks for that insite. I assume your perfect? Being perfect is not a prerequisite for being able to judge the probability that a situation is going to turn out well. " I thought that was quite good insight actually. | |||
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" Knowing nothing about the lass, we can't judge. " Have you ever heard of probability? | |||
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"Oh is the witch hunt over? Have swingers stopped judging other peoples morals and creating terrible, hideous scenarios for a random stranger based on a status message.... Okay Snog, Fuck or Avoid..... Hey,can't we be free to make our thoughts on unusual sexual practices known? Should we have to agree with everything everyone does on here,I know I don't. We can of course make our thoughts and opinions available to all; however singling out one member (and please don't say she is anonymous, anyone that knows where the OP lives can do a search and soon "discover" her) and then vilifying them on a forum is terrible... truly terrible I can't ever agree to that She put it up there for all and sundry to see. It's hardly a secret,but I don't agree with picking out a person to have a dig at on here. She put it on her status, she didn't post it on the forum and invite comment. I find this thread and some of the vitriolic condemnation on it the new "low" of fab..... when will people just leave other people alone? Without imposing their own morals on them? True,but people like to discuss others and their sexual perversions. Discuss? Or bad mouth? Insult? condemn? Hey look, a healthy debate entitled "Is seeking a sperm donor on fab acceptable?" - fine, we can all have an opinion. Directly pointing out a "profile in my area, how disgusting".. unforgiveable.... I wonder how some people would feel if their status messages were discussed on the open forum for people to condemn?" Me personally I wouldn't give a shit,especially if it was a controversial subject,because I would expect some negativity. I'm not saying it was right that the OP stated it was a status on here,but the subject matter is interesting to debate. | |||
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"Cheaper than IVF and they are cutting it down on the nhs x" very well said , its a lot cheeper than the NHS , lol cuts down on the waiting time , | |||
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"I just read a status where the male half of the couple was openly inviting people to come to his work place a well known shop on Oxford Street to "flash his colleagues and see what happens" lol that's sumit id do. xxx So what happens if one the ladies don't give a positive reaction? " I dunno I never flash ladies just builders xxx | |||
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"I couldn't do it. Knowing there was the possibility of my flesh and blood out there and not knowing what they looked like, imparting my wisdom, missing growth goals and milestones, and growing up and seeing them turn into adults, as well as not having a choice or ability to do my fatherly duties and responsibilities would eat me up inside. Really never understood any bloke that can father a child and happily walk away from all that.. Exactly, the poor bastard would have an irresponsible father and probably a very selfish mother. Great start to life. Yes it does effect me because I'm a taxpayer and we end up paying for the bottom of society which is usually where people with traumatic childhoods end up. Thanks for that insite. I assume your perfect? Being perfect is not a prerequisite for being able to judge the probability that a situation is going to turn out well. " No but not all children with absent fathers end up at the bottom of society plus not all people at the bottom of society are there out of their own means. X | |||
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" Would a guy really be that desperate for a shag ????" I'm assuming that's a rhetorical question. | |||
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"Ok Time to walk away Stupids taking over Stupid because they don't agree with you ? Oh well ..... " No think I just shocked him into shutting up. xxx | |||
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"I couldn't do it. Knowing there was the possibility of my flesh and blood out there and not knowing what they looked like, imparting my wisdom, missing growth goals and milestones, and growing up and seeing them turn into adults, as well as not having a choice or ability to do my fatherly duties and responsibilities would eat me up inside. Really never understood any bloke that can father a child and happily walk away from all that.. Exactly, the poor bastard would have an irresponsible father and probably a very selfish mother. Great start to life. Yes it does effect me because I'm a taxpayer and we end up paying for the bottom of society which is usually where people with traumatic childhoods end up. Thanks for that insite. I assume your perfect? Being perfect is not a prerequisite for being able to judge the probability that a situation is going to turn out well. No but not all children with absent fathers end up at the bottom of society plus not all people at the bottom of society are there out of their own means. X" That's why we talk about probability | |||
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"Anyone having anything nice for dinner? " Chicken and broccoli. | |||
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"Anyone having anything nice for dinner? " Liver,,,,,with fava beans and chianti. You? | |||
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"Oh is the witch hunt over? Have swingers stopped judging other peoples morals and creating terrible, hideous scenarios for a random stranger based on a status message.... Okay Snog, Fuck or Avoid..... Hey,can't we be free to make our thoughts on unusual sexual practices known? Should we have to agree with everything everyone does on here,I know I don't. We can of course make our thoughts and opinions available to all; however singling out one member (and please don't say she is anonymous, anyone that knows where the OP lives can do a search and soon "discover" her) and then vilifying them on a forum is terrible... truly terrible I can't ever agree to that She put it up there for all and sundry to see. It's hardly a secret,but I don't agree with picking out a person to have a dig at on here. She put it on her status, she didn't post it on the forum and invite comment. I find this thread and some of the vitriolic condemnation on it the new "low" of fab..... when will people just leave other people alone? Without imposing their own morals on them? True,but people like to discuss others and their sexual perversions. Discuss? Or bad mouth? Insult? condemn? Hey look, a healthy debate entitled "Is seeking a sperm donor on fab acceptable?" - fine, we can all have an opinion. Directly pointing out a "profile in my area, how disgusting".. unforgiveable.... I wonder how some people would feel if their status messages were discussed on the open forum for people to condemn? Me personally I wouldn't give a shit,especially if it was a controversial subject,because I would expect some negativity. I'm not saying it was right that the OP stated it was a status on here,but the subject matter is interesting to debate. " Nor would we give a shit ... A status is public domain . | |||
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