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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

When did "we" stop using the word actress ?

A lot of the papers now just seem to refer to male and female thespians as actors

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

We stopped using comedienne too.

We stopped using executrix so long ago many people have never heard of it!

Presumably, in a few more years, we'll start calling women 'men'. Then it'll get complicated...

Mr ddc

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley


"We stopped using comedienne too.

We stopped using executrix so long ago many people have never heard of it!

Presumably, in a few more years, we'll start calling women 'men'. Then it'll get complicated...

Mr ddc "

It's already started with the americanism guy's i.e. 'What would you guy's like to drink?' addressing two women.

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol


"We stopped using comedienne too.

We stopped using executrix so long ago many people have never heard of it!

Presumably, in a few more years, we'll start calling women 'men'. Then it'll get complicated...

Mr ddc

It's already started with the americanism guy's i.e. 'What would you guy's like to drink?' addressing two women. "

I have no issue being referred to as 'you guy's in that instance. Or using a single non-gender specific (nowadays anyway) term to define a job role. There is no need to use a different term just because I am female; it's a subtle form of sexism in my eyes by making an unnecessary distinction between sexes.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Do we no longer have dominatrix's ?

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol


"Do we no longer have dominatrix's ? "

We no longer have doctoresses. I can understand still using gender terms when it comes to sexual needs and desires since those can be linked specifically to gender. I'm more of an equalist in that respect, having played with Doms and Dommes, however.

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By *lumsy colinMan
over a year ago

basingstoke


"We stopped using comedienne too.

We stopped using executrix so long ago many people have never heard of it!

Presumably, in a few more years, we'll start calling women 'men'. Then it'll get complicated...

Mr ddc

It's already started with the americanism guy's i.e. 'What would you guy's like to drink?' addressing two women.

I have no issue being referred to as 'you guy's in that instance. Or using a single non-gender specific (nowadays anyway) term to define a job role. There is no need to use a different term just because I am female; it's a subtle form of sexism in my eyes by making an unnecessary distinction between sexes."

I have two problems with that statement one is men and women are actually different thats just a fact but also it seems wrong that the "non gender specific term" seems to actually be the old male version?

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol


"We stopped using comedienne too.

We stopped using executrix so long ago many people have never heard of it!

Presumably, in a few more years, we'll start calling women 'men'. Then it'll get complicated...

Mr ddc

It's already started with the americanism guy's i.e. 'What would you guy's like to drink?' addressing two women.

I have no issue being referred to as 'you guy's in that instance. Or using a single non-gender specific (nowadays anyway) term to define a job role. There is no need to use a different term just because I am female; it's a subtle form of sexism in my eyes by making an unnecessary distinction between sexes.

I have two problems with that statement one is men and women are actually different thats just a fact but also it seems wrong that the "non gender specific term" seems to actually be the old male version? "

In most cases it isn't apart from those professions with 'man' in (and in very old professions man meant person not male person specifically). The feminised versions only happened when women began to work in those roles, to give them a term different to that already in use. We have abandoned doctoress, lawyeress, stewardess etc. so I see no need for actress or comedienne etc. either. Plus we no longer have gender words in English so using Latin suffixes is no longer necessary from a linguistic point of view.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We stopped using comedienne too.

We stopped using executrix so long ago many people have never heard of it!

Presumably, in a few more years, we'll start calling women 'men'. Then it'll get complicated...

Mr ddc

It's already started with the americanism guy's i.e. 'What would you guy's like to drink?' addressing two women.

I have no issue being referred to as 'you guy's in that instance. Or using a single non-gender specific (nowadays anyway) term to define a job role. There is no need to use a different term just because I am female; it's a subtle form of sexism in my eyes by making an unnecessary distinction between sexes.

I have two problems with that statement one is men and women are actually different thats just a fact but also it seems wrong that the "non gender specific term" seems to actually be the old male version?

In most cases it isn't apart from those professions with 'man' in (and in very old professions man meant person not male person specifically). The feminised versions only happened when women began to work in those roles, to give them a term different to that already in use. We have abandoned doctoress, lawyeress, stewardess etc. so I see no need for actress or comedienne etc. either. Plus we no longer have gender words in English so using Latin suffixes is no longer necessary from a linguistic point of view."

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

I thought many, such as stewardess, were abandoned when equality legislation made it illegal to advertise gender-specific roles. Curiously actors and actresses don't fit that category, since, generally, one is looking for a specific gender for a role.

Perhaps equality will be measured when the first actress insists on competing in the 'Best Actor' category, or the first sportswoman insists on competing in the men's event.

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By *igeiaWoman
over a year ago

Bristol


"I thought many, such as stewardess, were abandoned when equality legislation made it illegal to advertise gender-specific roles. Curiously actors and actresses don't fit that category, since, generally, one is looking for a specific gender for a role.

Perhaps equality will be measured when the first actress insists on competing in the 'Best Actor' category, or the first sportswoman insists on competing in the men's event."

Some awards ceremonies already do that. Categories for best male and best female actor rather than best actor and best actress.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

There is no such thing as a Fireman anymore (unless your name is Sam), you have to be a Firefighter.

Why do we have Lollipop Ladies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was called a cunt twice at work today but to be honest the gender specifics didn't really enter my mind at that moment...

I guess either I don't think about such issues or I must be used to it by now

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