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"Looking at it from another perspective I never quite get it why the English seem to support other home nations but not in reverse. For example there always seems to be a lot of English support for the Republic of Ireland - er can you imagine them all in Dublin cheering on the English? It'll never happen! For me it's England or nobody. I'll take an interest in the other home nations the same as I would Iceland or Belarus - they're just another country that I'll watch in on as a neutral. Mind you, I am looking forward to England v Scotland at Wembley in November as that's always fiesty. I can't believe they expanded the Euros this year so any old 2 bob country could qualify and the Scots STILL didn't " Oii Scotland are just training and getting themselves ready for the world cup qualifiers next time round | |||
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"Oii Scotland are just training and getting themselves ready for the world cup qualifiers next time round " is this how you got your user name? | |||
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"Looking at it from another perspective I never quite get it why the English seem to support other home nations but not in reverse. For example there always seems to be a lot of English support for the Republic of Ireland - er can you imagine them all in Dublin cheering on the English? It'll never happen! For me it's England or nobody. I'll take an interest in the other home nations the same as I would Iceland or Belarus - they're just another country that I'll watch in on as a neutral. Mind you, I am looking forward to England v Scotland at Wembley in November as that's always fiesty. I can't believe they expanded the Euros this year so any old 2 bob country could qualify and the Scots STILL didn't Oii Scotland are just training and getting themselves ready for the world cup qualifiers next time round " I hope Scotland don't make it to Quatar finals. they will burn like fuck | |||
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"Looking at it from another perspective I never quite get it why the English seem to support other home nations but not in reverse. For example there always seems to be a lot of English support for the Republic of Ireland - er can you imagine them all in Dublin cheering on the English? It'll never happen! For me it's England or nobody. I'll take an interest in the other home nations the same as I would Iceland or Belarus - they're just another country that I'll watch in on as a neutral. Mind you, I am looking forward to England v Scotland at Wembley in November as that's always fiesty. I can't believe they expanded the Euros this year so any old 2 bob country could qualify and the Scots STILL didn't Oii Scotland are just training and getting themselves ready for the world cup qualifiers next time round " ah that'll be it .. Resting up for the Summer so they'll be all fresh for November | |||
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"Oii Scotland are just training and getting themselves ready for the world cup qualifiers next time round is this how you got your user name? " Quite probably, but a girl can dream | |||
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"Looking at it from another perspective I never quite get it why the English seem to support other home nations but not in reverse. For example there always seems to be a lot of English support for the Republic of Ireland - er can you imagine them all in Dublin cheering on the English? It'll never happen! For me it's England or nobody. I'll take an interest in the other home nations the same as I would Iceland or Belarus - they're just another country that I'll watch in on as a neutral. Mind you, I am looking forward to England v Scotland at Wembley in November as that's always fiesty. I can't believe they expanded the Euros this year so any old 2 bob country could qualify and the Scots STILL didn't Oii Scotland are just training and getting themselves ready for the world cup qualifiers next time round ah that'll be it .. Resting up for the Summer so they'll be all fresh for November " Exactly, as they say Practice makes perfect | |||
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"Scotland! Can you water our plants and feed our dis while we are at the euros please " do you trust them not go go rummaging through your knickers draw? | |||
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"As an England supporter who champions all the home nations I love the idea that Scotland fans choose to support England's opponents..... But I genuinely wish Scotland had qualified.... I love seeing the pride and passion of the tartan army in full voice... " This always remember Spain 86 I think half of the Scots stayed there | |||
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"As an England supporter who champions all the home nations I love the idea that Scotland fans choose to support England's opponents..... But I genuinely wish Scotland had qualified.... I love seeing the pride and passion of the tartan army in full voice... " I like it when Scotland qualify for the Euros too, brings back memories of Gazza scoring against them for England in Euro 96. | |||
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"I think a lot has to do with the media coverage of England in football tournaments . The rest of the home nations dont get much of a look in. Some times the media forget that us other nations are there and it does vex us a little " You can't say that , you don't get to many tournaments lol | |||
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"As an England supporter who champions all the home nations I love the idea that Scotland fans choose to support England's opponents..... But I genuinely wish Scotland had qualified.... I love seeing the pride and passion of the tartan army in full voice... This always remember Spain 86 I think half of the Scots stayed there " Spain was 82 Mexico was 86 (sorry for being pedantic) | |||
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"As an England supporter who champions all the home nations I love the idea that Scotland fans choose to support England's opponents..... But I genuinely wish Scotland had qualified.... I love seeing the pride and passion of the tartan army in full voice... This always remember Spain 86 I think half of the Scots stayed there " '78 was funnier when "ally's tartan army" were convinced they were going to win the world cup ..... too much booze and narcotics intervened though lol | |||
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"I think a lot has to do with the media coverage of England in football tournaments . The rest of the home nations dont get much of a look in. Some times the media forget that us other nations are there and it does vex us a little " There was a story on the news last week apparently some people in Wales complained in Marks and Spencer stores because they had cardboard cut outs of England players on display and no cardboard cut outs of any Welsh players. | |||
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"I think a lot has to do with the media coverage of England in football tournaments . The rest of the home nations dont get much of a look in. Some times the media forget that us other nations are there and it does vex us a little " You see, I've always supported England in footy, and Scotland in rugby However Wales have only played decent footy in the last four years, so they're late to the Duck supporting party | |||
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"As an England supporter who champions all the home nations I love the idea that Scotland fans choose to support England's opponents..... But I genuinely wish Scotland had qualified.... I love seeing the pride and passion of the tartan army in full voice... This always remember Spain 86 I think half of the Scots stayed there Spain was 82 Mexico was 86 (sorry for being pedantic) " Says the man who can't abide international football | |||
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"As an England supporter who champions all the home nations I love the idea that Scotland fans choose to support England's opponents..... But I genuinely wish Scotland had qualified.... I love seeing the pride and passion of the tartan army in full voice... This always remember Spain 86 I think half of the Scots stayed there Spain was 82 Mexico was 86 (sorry for being pedantic) " not a problem | |||
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"Oii Scotland are just training and getting themselves ready for the world cup qualifiers next time round is this how you got your user name? Quite probably, but a girl can dream " At least you can cheer on Andy Murray at Wimbledon. | |||
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"Oii Scotland are just training and getting themselves ready for the world cup qualifiers next time round is this how you got your user name? Quite probably, but a girl can dream At least you can cheer on Andy Murray at Wimbledon. " or don trump in 3 weeks time | |||
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"As an England supporter who champions all the home nations I love the idea that Scotland fans choose to support England's opponents..... But I genuinely wish Scotland had qualified.... I love seeing the pride and passion of the tartan army in full voice... This always remember Spain 86 I think half of the Scots stayed there Spain was 82 Mexico was 86 (sorry for being pedantic) Says the man who can't abide international football " I did like watching it as a kid and collecting panini stickers but not now. I think England beating Germany 5-1 was the last match international I watched in entirety. Now I don't watch any if I can help it. | |||
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"I'll take a keen interest in the Republic of Ireland's games as they have 3 Derby players in the squad, Richard Keogh, Jeff Hendrick & Cyrus Christie. Northern Ireland have Chris Baird and 2 ex Derby players, Steven Davis & Jamie Ward. Unfortunately we don't have any Welsh players " Bale's contract is up in 3 years | |||
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"I think a lot has to do with the media coverage of England in football tournaments . The rest of the home nations dont get much of a look in. Some times the media forget that us other nations are there and it does vex us a little There was a story on the news last week apparently some people in Wales complained in Marks and Spencer stores because they had cardboard cut outs of England players on display and no cardboard cut outs of any Welsh players. " That happens all the time though and is the cause of a lot of the anti-English stuff. It seems petty, but I imagine that if you lived in England, supported England and most of the media coverage and all the adverts were about the Welsh team, there'd be uproar. It doesn't bother me, but I admit to being a bit grumpy when Emgland knocked us out of a couple of tournaments in recent times and when the finals were on Wayne flipping Rooney was staring at you in every shopping aisle. Really, it's all to do with an imbalance in the media - it'd be far nicer for English fans if they had a media that was just for them, rather than notionally being for the whole UK (and which understandably features England more and makes the other countries feel like foreigners when playing them). They could go full-on with their support then, like we do in Wales. I'm a fan of the Union, so prefer reading the London-based press. It is hard sometimes, though. Imagine a world where Wales won the tournament (I know, I know!) and in England, that's all you heard about for weeks to come. The English would go loopy. That's what we're facing in Wales if England win it! If Wales won it (I know, I know) there'd be little fuss outside of Wales. The fact England didn't play Wales for many, many years after the end of the home internationals is the cause of lingering bad feeling too. I'll be happy to see England do well, but dreading it a tiny bit. | |||
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"I think a lot has to do with the media coverage of England in football tournaments . The rest of the home nations dont get much of a look in. Some times the media forget that us other nations are there and it does vex us a little There was a story on the news last week apparently some people in Wales complained in Marks and Spencer stores because they had cardboard cut outs of England players on display and no cardboard cut outs of any Welsh players. That happens all the time though and is the cause of a lot of the anti-English stuff. It seems petty, but I imagine that if you lived in England, supported England and most of the media coverage and all the adverts were about the Welsh team, there'd be uproar. It doesn't bother me, but I admit to being a bit grumpy when Emgland knocked us out of a couple of tournaments in recent times and when the finals were on Wayne flipping Rooney was staring at you in every shopping aisle. Really, it's all to do with an imbalance in the media - it'd be far nicer for English fans if they had a media that was just for them, rather than notionally being for the whole UK (and which understandably features England more and makes the other countries feel like foreigners when playing them). They could go full-on with their support then, like we do in Wales. I'm a fan of the Union, so prefer reading the London-based press. It is hard sometimes, though. Imagine a world where Wales won the tournament (I know, I know!) and in England, that's all you heard about for weeks to come. The English would go loopy. That's what we're facing in Wales if England win it! If Wales won it (I know, I know) there'd be little fuss outside of Wales. The fact England didn't play Wales for many, many years after the end of the home internationals is the cause of lingering bad feeling too. I'll be happy to see England do well, but dreading it a tiny bit. " alaw yn unig mewn i s4c .... di-dol | |||
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"I think a lot has to do with the media coverage of England in football tournaments . The rest of the home nations dont get much of a look in. Some times the media forget that us other nations are there and it does vex us a little You see, I've always supported England in footy, and Scotland in rugby However Wales have only played decent footy in the last four years, so they're late to the Duck supporting party " I have been waiting for this moment all my life . I have the sticker book Manics footy song Wall chart New shirt And made some.welsh footy gingerbread men to take to my nephews in York last week | |||
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"I think a lot has to do with the media coverage of England in football tournaments . The rest of the home nations dont get much of a look in. Some times the media forget that us other nations are there and it does vex us a little There was a story on the news last week apparently some people in Wales complained in Marks and Spencer stores because they had cardboard cut outs of England players on display and no cardboard cut outs of any Welsh players. That happens all the time though and is the cause of a lot of the anti-English stuff. It seems petty, but I imagine that if you lived in England, supported England and most of the media coverage and all the adverts were about the Welsh team, there'd be uproar. It doesn't bother me, but I admit to being a bit grumpy when Emgland knocked us out of a couple of tournaments in recent times and when the finals were on Wayne flipping Rooney was staring at you in every shopping aisle. Really, it's all to do with an imbalance in the media - it'd be far nicer for English fans if they had a media that was just for them, rather than notionally being for the whole UK (and which understandably features England more and makes the other countries feel like foreigners when playing them). They could go full-on with their support then, like we do in Wales. I'm a fan of the Union, so prefer reading the London-based press. It is hard sometimes, though. Imagine a world where Wales won the tournament (I know, I know!) and in England, that's all you heard about for weeks to come. The English would go loopy. That's what we're facing in Wales if England win it! If Wales won it (I know, I know) there'd be little fuss outside of Wales. The fact England didn't play Wales for many, many years after the end of the home internationals is the cause of lingering bad feeling too. I'll be happy to see England do well, but dreading it a tiny bit. " Oh god if we win I am personally changing all the road signs into wales to say " Welcome to Wales , Croseo I Cymru ,, home.of the Euro 2016 winners " | |||
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"The problem with the M&S story is that they're seeking Nike products, England kit; and not Adidas products, Wales kit. So they're hardly likely to put up any Welsh players in their stores " I am to posh for M&S lol. So good luck England, but not on the 16th lol. | |||
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""Anyone but England" is in the final today, for that reason I won't be cheering him on. I'm sure he understands the sentiment " Bit harsh given it was a silly, throwaway comment made to a journalist who'd been repeatedly poking fun at the Scotland team (not hard to do, admittedly) during the interview. Feel free to be outraged though | |||
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""Anyone but England" is in the final today, for that reason I won't be cheering him on. I'm sure he understands the sentiment " That was all out of context so it seems, he was bantering with Tim Henman over football https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqQsHBwkDgQ | |||
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""Anyone but England" is in the final today, for that reason I won't be cheering him on. I'm sure he understands the sentiment That was all out of context so it seems, he was bantering with Tim Henman over football https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqQsHBwkDgQ" It's not the only time he has said it. He changed his tune when it started costing him sponsors | |||
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"I think a lot has to do with the media coverage of England in football tournaments . The rest of the home nations dont get much of a look in. Some times the media forget that us other nations are there and it does vex us a little " You do have to get to a tournament to be able to be talked about | |||
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""Anyone but England" is in the final today, for that reason I won't be cheering him on. I'm sure he understands the sentiment That was all out of context so it seems, he was bantering with Tim Henman over football https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqQsHBwkDgQ It's not the only time he has said it. He changed his tune when it started costing him sponsors " Seriously? | |||
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""Anyone but England" is in the final today, for that reason I won't be cheering him on. I'm sure he understands the sentiment That was all out of context so it seems, he was bantering with Tim Henman over football https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqQsHBwkDgQ It's not the only time he has said it. He changed his tune when it started costing him sponsors " A lot of the anti-Scots rhetoric probably annoys him. | |||
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"I was always supporting any part of the UK in sport, then I found the internet and saw the vitrol posted against England when they were playing and it did wane a bit. Then I thought to myself if people in other parts of the UK have that much hate in their bones then maybe they need to look at themselves and why should I be as vindictive as those people so I still support ALL parts of the UK when they are playing sports. " I agree that's bad. If you think that England supporters don't dish it out too though, you're sadly mistaken. I've experienced it plenty of times myself. I even know an English guy living in Wales who was beaten senseless by England fans because they mistakenly thought he was a "Welsh c**t". The Celts have plenty to answer for on this, but it's not all one way, by any means. It's just the classic imbalanced rivalry. We desperately want to beat the big guys i.e. England and want the rivalry to matter. The English don't give a monkeys about that and are too busy hating the Germans. Classic sporting nonsense basically. | |||
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"I was always supporting any part of the UK in sport, then I found the internet and saw the vitrol posted against England when they were playing and it did wane a bit. Then I thought to myself if people in other parts of the UK have that much hate in their bones then maybe they need to look at themselves and why should I be as vindictive as those people so I still support ALL parts of the UK when they are playing sports. I agree that's bad. If you think that England supporters don't dish it out too though, you're sadly mistaken. I've experienced it plenty of times myself. I even know an English guy living in Wales who was beaten senseless by England fans because they mistakenly thought he was a "Welsh c**t". The Celts have plenty to answer for on this, but it's not all one way, by any means. It's just the classic imbalanced rivalry. We desperately want to beat the big guys i.e. England and want the rivalry to matter. The English don't give a monkeys about that and are too busy hating the Germans. Classic sporting nonsense basically." I wasn't talking about violent idiots at football matches, I am sure there are lots of them about from all teams. | |||
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"Anyhow, I hope we can get over all this and just enjoy it all. Sadly, I fear the worst for the Eng v Wales game in terms of the fans. I just can't see how it will pass off peacefully." Hmmmm well lens is not a big town either - most fans are staying in Lille and travelling in The fan park is only going to be for ticket holders only and that's 10,000 rumours are 120,000 are coming over It will be HEAVALY policed from the information I have got through official channels (and some unofficial) It will be lively don't get me wrong - but I am hoping for peaceful banter (or peaceful laughing at the Welsh) | |||
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"Anyhow, I hope we can get over all this and just enjoy it all. Sadly, I fear the worst for the Eng v Wales game in terms of the fans. I just can't see how it will pass off peacefully. Hmmmm well lens is not a big town either - most fans are staying in Lille and travelling in The fan park is only going to be for ticket holders only and that's 10,000 rumours are 120,000 are coming over It will be HEAVALY policed from the information I have got through official channels (and some unofficial) It will be lively don't get me wrong - but I am hoping for peaceful banter (or peaceful laughing at the Welsh) " Though I think a lot will depend what happens in the first game from the English point of view in Marseille. England didn't have a good time of it there back in 98 and it depends how many locals will be out for a bit of retribution. Also the Russians may want a piece of it also. I am hoping it goes of peafully just as a England fan reputation. | |||
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"I was always supporting any part of the UK in sport, then I found the internet and saw the vitrol posted against England when they were playing and it did wane a bit. Then I thought to myself if people in other parts of the UK have that much hate in their bones then maybe they need to look at themselves and why should I be as vindictive as those people so I still support ALL parts of the UK when they are playing sports. I agree that's bad. If you think that England supporters don't dish it out too though, you're sadly mistaken. I've experienced it plenty of times myself. I even know an English guy living in Wales who was beaten senseless by England fans because they mistakenly thought he was a "Welsh c**t". The Celts have plenty to answer for on this, but it's not all one way, by any means. It's just the classic imbalanced rivalry. We desperately want to beat the big guys i.e. England and want the rivalry to matter. The English don't give a monkeys about that and are too busy hating the Germans. Classic sporting nonsense basically. I wasn't talking about violent idiots at football matches, I am sure there are lots of them about from all teams. " No, fair enough. But there's plenty of deragotary, unwelcome stuff coming the other way too. Try going to Twickenham in a Welsh shirt and listen to the Barbour jacket brigade mouthing off. There's low level sneering coming back the other way too. I'm completely agreed the Celts can be bad. I just can't agree when the English are painted as Saints in all of this. Seriously, a lot of it goes back to the media. Years spent watching football focus, when there'd be endless stuff about England, then the presenter would say "the other home nations are also in action this weekend". Every time. Watch an England v Wales game on Sky and you feel like a foreigner. I actually understand it, as the media have to play to their core audience, but it does fuel a feeling of "not belonging" among many. Like I said, if you can persuade me that the population of England will be happy being deluged with about Wales's miracle championship win all day every day for a few weeks, I'll shut up. That's what we're facing if England win. | |||
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" No, fair enough. But there's plenty of deragotary, unwelcome stuff coming the other way too. " You are missing my point, the point I was making was not between rival fans at a football/ cricket match. It was the hate that is aimed at parts of the UK whether they are sports fans or not | |||
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" No, fair enough. But there's plenty of deragotary, unwelcome stuff coming the other way too. You are missing my point, the point I was making was not between rival fans at a football/ cricket match. It was the hate that is aimed at parts of the UK whether they are sports fans or not" I think often it's a case of one reaps what one sows. | |||
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" No, fair enough. But there's plenty of deragotary, unwelcome stuff coming the other way too. You are missing my point, the point I was making was not between rival fans at a football/ cricket match. It was the hate that is aimed at parts of the UK whether they are sports fans or not I think often it's a case of one reaps what one sows. " So all the hate that is spouted because Football focus doesn't mention Wales enough is a good enough reason to spout so much hate at people who have no control over that ? As I said in my first post, I think the people who have so much hate in their bones need to take a long hard look at themselves | |||
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" No, fair enough. But there's plenty of deragotary, unwelcome stuff coming the other way too. You are missing my point, the point I was making was not between rival fans at a football/ cricket match. It was the hate that is aimed at parts of the UK whether they are sports fans or not I think often it's a case of one reaps what one sows. So all the hate that is spouted because Football focus doesn't mention Wales enough is a good enough reason to spout so much hate at people who have no control over that ? As I said in my first post, I think the people who have so much hate in their bones need to take a long hard look at themselves " No, I'm thinking about a lot of the political rhetoric. Take the anti-Scots hatred being spouted by our current government and its supporters just last year at the GE. They switch it on to win votes but they don't do anything to turn it off and so there's a backlash. | |||
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"I was always supporting any part of the UK in sport, then I found the internet and saw the vitrol posted against England when they were playing and it did wane a bit. Then I thought to myself if people in other parts of the UK have that much hate in their bones then maybe they need to look at themselves and why should I be as vindictive as those people so I still support ALL parts of the UK when they are playing sports. I agree that's bad. If you think that England supporters don't dish it out too though, you're sadly mistaken. I've experienced it plenty of times myself. I even know an English guy living in Wales who was beaten senseless by England fans because they mistakenly thought he was a "Welsh c**t". The Celts have plenty to answer for on this, but it's not all one way, by any means. It's just the classic imbalanced rivalry. We desperately want to beat the big guys i.e. England and want the rivalry to matter. The English don't give a monkeys about that and are too busy hating the Germans. Classic sporting nonsense basically. I wasn't talking about violent idiots at football matches, I am sure there are lots of them about from all teams. No, fair enough. But there's plenty of deragotary, unwelcome stuff coming the other way too. Try going to Twickenham in a Welsh shirt and listen to the Barbour jacket brigade mouthing off. There's low level sneering coming back the other way too. I'm completely agreed the Celts can be bad. I just can't agree when the English are painted as Saints in all of this. Seriously, a lot of it goes back to the media. Years spent watching football focus, when there'd be endless stuff about England, then the presenter would say "the other home nations are also in action this weekend". Every time. Watch an England v Wales game on Sky and you feel like a foreigner. I actually understand it, as the media have to play to their core audience, but it does fuel a feeling of "not belonging" among many. Like I said, if you can persuade me that the population of England will be happy being deluged with about Wales's miracle championship win all day every day for a few weeks, I'll shut up. That's what we're facing if England win. " Your argument falls down though, in that the Scottish and Welsh Regional BBC channels focus on their games first You hardly get a look in at the English premiership, if you're watching in Scotland. Have you ever watched a match between Connah's Quay Nomads and Bala Town ? The same goes for any international. And quite right too | |||
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"As an England supporter who champions all the home nations I love the idea that Scotland fans choose to support England's opponents..... But I genuinely wish Scotland had qualified.... I love seeing the pride and passion of the tartan army in full voice... " I agree wholeheartedly | |||
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"As a proud Scot now residing in England, I have no problem supporting England in fact I've tipped them to win it. What drives most Scots mad is the way the English media hype the team up as the best the world has ever seen then hammer then when they get beat. " The english press are gobshites | |||
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"if you're watching in Scotland. Have you ever watched a match between Connah's Quay Nomads and Bala Town ? The same goes for any international. And quite right too " Watched it on telly I was at the game | |||
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"I wish the Scots were in, I love it when they turn up in kilts and how they sing their mational anthem " I have a Welsh kilt | |||
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"I wish the Scots were in, I love it when they turn up in kilts and how they sing their mational anthem I have a Welsh kilt " We need pics or it isn't true | |||
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"As a proud Scot now residing in England, I have no problem supporting England in fact I've tipped them to win it. What drives most Scots mad is the way the English media hype the team up as the best the world has ever seen then hammer then when they get beat. " Exactly - Even from "national" press and media outlets! Good luck to them. OP, as it happens I don't give a fuck who wins since the Mighty Scotland elected not to compete this time round | |||
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"I wish the Scots were in, I love it when they turn up in kilts and how they sing their mational anthem I have a Welsh kilt We need pics or it isn't true " just uploading them now | |||
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"I wish the Scots were in, I love it when they turn up in kilts and how they sing their mational anthem I have a Welsh kilt We need pics or it isn't true just uploading them now " Welsh kilts pfft | |||
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"I wish the Scots were in, I love it when they turn up in kilts and how they sing their mational anthem I have a Welsh kilt We need pics or it isn't true just uploading them now Welsh kilts pfft " ha ha we let you boys invent them , we Taffs just perfected them | |||
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"I wish the Scots were in, I love it when they turn up in kilts and how they sing their mational anthem I have a Welsh kilt We need pics or it isn't true just uploading them now Welsh kilts pfft ha ha we let you boys invent them , we Taffs just perfected them " Expletive Deleted | |||
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"I wish the Scots were in, I love it when they turn up in kilts and how they sing their mational anthem I have a Welsh kilt We need pics or it isn't true just uploading them now Welsh kilts pfft ha ha we let you boys invent them , we Taffs just perfected them Expletive Deleted " | |||
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"I wish the Scots were in, I love it when they turn up in kilts and how they sing their mational anthem I have a Welsh kilt We need pics or it isn't true just uploading them now " I love kilts | |||
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"I wish the Scots were in, I love it when they turn up in kilts and how they sing their mational anthem I have a Welsh kilt We need pics or it isn't true just uploading them now I love kilts " in my profile if you care to peek | |||
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