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"So, I just filed an official complaint against the TSA complaining of gender discrimination during my last trip through JFK airport. I have two questions: 1- how many government lists do you think I've just gotten myself on? 2- How long do you think I'll be detained for questions regarding "national security" during my next tip to JFK? Maybe I'll fly through Newark airport in the future " May I ask what your complaint refer_ed to. | |||
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"So, I just filed an official complaint against the TSA complaining of gender discrimination during my last trip through JFK airport. I have two questions: 1- how many government lists do you think I've just gotten myself on? 2- How long do you think I'll be detained for questions regarding "national security" during my next tip to JFK? Maybe I'll fly through Newark airport in the future " Was it because a woman security officer frisked you and you wanted to be frisked by a male one instead? | |||
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"I warned you against wearing that burkha and shouting oaths in Arabic Courtney, but would you listen? " I'll stop with a Arabic, but I'll be damned if I'm giving up my burkha! | |||
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"Are they as bad as Southpark made them seem?" They are hideous at JFK. Mildly annoying elsewhere. | |||
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"So, I just filed an official complaint against the TSA complaining of gender discrimination during my last trip through JFK airport. I have two questions: 1- how many government lists do you think I've just gotten myself on? 2- How long do you think I'll be detained for questions regarding "national security" during my next tip to JFK? Maybe I'll fly through Newark airport in the future May I ask what your complaint refer_ed to. " It's long and complicated but basically it was because I had to wait substantially longer (more than 40 minutes longer) for a pat down than my husband after refusing the body scanners. Apparently the TSA agents didn't know that unequal treatment was unconstitutional (and yes, they actually told us that). | |||
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"So, I just filed an official complaint against the TSA complaining of gender discrimination during my last trip through JFK airport. I have two questions: 1- how many government lists do you think I've just gotten myself on? 2- How long do you think I'll be detained for questions regarding "national security" during my next tip to JFK? Maybe I'll fly through Newark airport in the future May I ask what your complaint refer_ed to. It's long and complicated but basically it was because I had to wait substantially longer (more than 40 minutes longer) for a pat down than my husband after refusing the body scanners. Apparently the TSA agents didn't know that unequal treatment was unconstitutional (and yes, they actually told us that). " I was right | |||
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"Courtney out of curiosity why did you refuse the body scanner? " Do you work for the TSA? | |||
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"Courtney out of curiosity why did you refuse the body scanner? Do you work for the TSA? " Last time I checked....no | |||
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"Apparently the TSA agents didn't know that unequal treatment was unconstitutional (and yes, they actually told us that). " I don't know about constitutional rights, I think you will find your luggage has more rights in the airport than you do | |||
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"Courtney out of curiosity why did you refuse the body scanner? Do you work for the TSA? Last time I checked....no " Because, contrary to some rather arguable legal precedent, it is my contention that the body scanners constitute an illegal search and seizure by agents of the federal government. So I protest by always refusing the body scanners. | |||
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"I admit the TSA can be a pain in the but in the USA . But most of the people are not properly trained and are very rude. But please don't think Heathrow is a walk in the park for us Americans. I have had 2 unopened colognes taken from me at Heathrow... Now if you want to go through real TSA hell I suggest you take a trip to Isreal." Off to Israel in a couple of weeks. Do you suggest a _eduction in Arabic oaths? | |||
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"I admit the TSA can be a pain in the but in the USA . But most of the people are not properly trained and are very rude. But please don't think Heathrow is a walk in the park for us Americans. I have had 2 unopened colognes taken from me at Heathrow... Now if you want to go through real TSA hell I suggest you take a trip to Isreal." I hate Heathrow, too. They broke a cookie I bought for my nephew in Vienna. I've never been to Israel, but I've heard stories from Marc | |||
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"I admit the TSA can be a pain in the but in the USA . But most of the people are not properly trained and are very rude. But please don't think Heathrow is a walk in the park for us Americans. I have had 2 unopened colognes taken from me at Heathrow... Now if you want to go through real TSA hell I suggest you take a trip to Isreal. I hate Heathrow, too. They broke a cookie I bought for my nephew in Vienna. I've never been to Israel, but I've heard stories from Marc " Becky's out there now. She didn't have any problems at Natbag. | |||
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"I admit the TSA can be a pain in the but in the USA . But most of the people are not properly trained and are very rude. But please don't think Heathrow is a walk in the park for us Americans. I have had 2 unopened colognes taken from me at Heathrow... Now if you want to go through real TSA hell I suggest you take a trip to Isreal." Austria took a bottle of makers mark off me | |||
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"I admit the TSA can be a pain in the but in the USA . But most of the people are not properly trained and are very rude. But please don't think Heathrow is a walk in the park for us Americans. I have had 2 unopened colognes taken from me at Heathrow... Now if you want to go through real TSA hell I suggest you take a trip to Isreal. Off to Israel in a couple of weeks. Do you suggest a _eduction in Arabic oaths?" Yes leave your burqa and free Palestine t-shirts at home. | |||
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"Jfk asked me the last time why was I sweating You try being in New York subway with rucksack in 35 degrees in a football shirt " Hey but we did give you bigger portions when you orde_ed food | |||
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"I admit the TSA can be a pain in the but in the USA . But most of the people are not properly trained and are very rude. But please don't think Heathrow is a walk in the park for us Americans. I have had 2 unopened colognes taken from me at Heathrow... Now if you want to go through real TSA hell I suggest you take a trip to Isreal. Austria took a bottle of makers mark off me " Stockholm airport is the worst. I kid you not they almost didn't let me in the country and made me wait 4 hours to clear customs | |||
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"I had to wait substantially longer (more than 40 minutes longer) for a pat down than my husband after refusing the body scanners." If they're short staffed I don't mind taking one for the team. | |||
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"I wouldn't care what security measures they do if it keeps people safe when flying" My complaint wasn't about the pat down. It was about the way that the security was applied - which was not equal. | |||
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"I wouldn't care what security measures they do if it keeps people safe when flying" You clearly haven't seen me with my trousers around my ankles because they demanded my belt. Next time I'll remember to wear underwear... Mr.ddc | |||
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"Anyway the joke is on them because I forgot to take my liquids out of my carry on luggage when putting it in the conveyor belt, and they never noticed. " I think you are allowed liquids there. It's just places in Europe that don't I think. | |||
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"I have never had any problems through JFK but then I don't refuse any safety procedures they have put in place which are there for a very good reason." Ah, yes, the TSA is well known for its outstanding handling of security: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/05/13/us/politics/congresss-list-of-gripes-with-tsa-is-long-like-an-airport-security-line.html | |||
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"Anyway the joke is on them because I forgot to take my liquids out of my carry on luggage when putting it in the conveyor belt, and they never noticed. I think you are allowed liquids there. It's just places in Europe that don't I think." You're allowed but they have to be removed from the bag when going through the x ray machine. | |||
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"Anyway the joke is on them because I forgot to take my liquids out of my carry on luggage when putting it in the conveyor belt, and they never noticed. I think you are allowed liquids there. It's just places in Europe that don't I think. You're allowed but they have to be removed from the bag when going through the x ray machine." Oh ok, a small victory | |||
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"Anyway the joke is on them because I forgot to take my liquids out of my carry on luggage when putting it in the conveyor belt, and they never noticed. I think you are allowed liquids there. It's just places in Europe that don't I think. You're allowed but they have to be removed from the bag when going through the x ray machine. Oh ok, a small victory " I'll take what I can get | |||
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"So, I just filed an official complaint against the TSA complaining of gender discrimination during my last trip through JFK airport. I have two questions: 1- how many government lists do you think I've just gotten myself on? 2- How long do you think I'll be detained for questions regarding "national security" during my next tip to JFK? Maybe I'll fly through Newark airport in the future " You've talked to me, you're already on a government list. | |||
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"Are they as bad as Southpark made them seem?" I just gotta check ya ass-hole... | |||
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"I reckon not as many 'hotlists' you are on here on Fab " Tru' dat | |||
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"Jfk asked me the last time why was I sweating You try being in New York subway with rucksack in 35 degrees in a football shirt Hey but we did give you bigger portions when you orde_ed food " You did but like big portions anyway | |||
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"US military bases are the worse though....I thought I had breached huge security polices by forgetting my spouse ID card once " They are a nightmare aren't they | |||
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"Fly into Detroit instead, it's brilliant. Like a ghost town. " I do love Detroit airport last time I flew through there, I set off the metal detectors and they didn't even stop and search me or my bags | |||
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"Last flight I went on was to Kenya 18 years ago. xxx" Did you not fly back?? Long boat journey x | |||
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"I admit the TSA can be a pain in the but in the USA . But most of the people are not properly trained and are very rude. But please don't think Heathrow is a walk in the park for us Americans. I have had 2 unopened colognes taken from me at Heathrow... Now if you want to go through real TSA hell I suggest you take a trip to Isreal." you want hell... forget going thru JFK.... try going thru O'hare!!!! JFK is a cakewalk! | |||
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"Courtney out of curiosity why did you refuse the body scanner? Do you work for the TSA? Last time I checked....no Because, contrary to some rather arguable legal precedent, it is my contention that the body scanners constitute an illegal search and seizure by agents of the federal government. So I protest by always refusing the body scanners. " Surely National Security is a lot more important than your human rights | |||
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"Courtney out of curiosity why did you refuse the body scanner? Do you work for the TSA? Last time I checked....no Because, contrary to some rather arguable legal precedent, it is my contention that the body scanners constitute an illegal search and seizure by agents of the federal government. So I protest by always refusing the body scanners. Surely National Security is a lot more important than your human rights " | |||
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"mind you the one time i truely did almost shat myself is then i went thru moscow customs on my american passport.... i ended up getting thru 6 hrs later than the rest of my exchange trip party... its like someone was watching agent bloody cody banks and really thought a 15yr old could be some sort of CIA spy.... okay granted i was an older looking 15 but still!!! " When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line | |||
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"Courtney out of curiosity why did you refuse the body scanner? Do you work for the TSA? Last time I checked....no Because, contrary to some rather arguable legal precedent, it is my contention that the body scanners constitute an illegal search and seizure by agents of the federal government. So I protest by always refusing the body scanners. Surely National Security is a lot more important than your human rights " Seems like a slippery slope to servitude. The idea of security is to protect our human rights surely. | |||
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"Courtney out of curiosity why did you refuse the body scanner? Do you work for the TSA? Last time I checked....no Because, contrary to some rather arguable legal precedent, it is my contention that the body scanners constitute an illegal search and seizure by agents of the federal government. So I protest by always refusing the body scanners. Surely National Security is a lot more important than your human rights " Pat, I would expect no other response from you. | |||
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"Courtney out of curiosity why did you refuse the body scanner? Do you work for the TSA? Last time I checked....no Because, contrary to some rather arguable legal precedent, it is my contention that the body scanners constitute an illegal search and seizure by agents of the federal government. So I protest by always refusing the body scanners. Surely National Security is a lot more important than your human rights Seems like a slippery slope to servitude. The idea of security is to protect our human rights surely." At airports I thought that the idea was to protect us from terrorists . A difficult enough job with the travelling public also wanting to enforce their human rights , whatever these may be . | |||
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"Courtney out of curiosity why did you refuse the body scanner? Do you work for the TSA? Last time I checked....no Because, contrary to some rather arguable legal precedent, it is my contention that the body scanners constitute an illegal search and seizure by agents of the federal government. So I protest by always refusing the body scanners. Surely National Security is a lot more important than your human rights Seems like a slippery slope to servitude. The idea of security is to protect our human rights surely. At airports I thought that the idea was to protect us from terrorists . A difficult enough job with the travelling public also wanting to enforce their human rights , whatever these may be ." I thought the idea is to get us to spend more in the duty free. But then I'm not an expert in making bombs out of bottled water and mouthwash. | |||
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"Courtney out of curiosity why did you refuse the body scanner? Do you work for the TSA? Last time I checked....no Because, contrary to some rather arguable legal precedent, it is my contention that the body scanners constitute an illegal search and seizure by agents of the federal government. So I protest by always refusing the body scanners. Surely National Security is a lot more important than your human rights Seems like a slippery slope to servitude. The idea of security is to protect our human rights surely. At airports I thought that the idea was to protect us from terrorists . A difficult enough job with the travelling public also wanting to enforce their human rights , whatever these may be ." In the United States, agents of the US federal government have to operate in accordance with the Constitution. That is just fact. Even when protecting against terrorist. I will note that I didn't use the term "human rights." I did that purposely. I am arguing a point of US law, not human rights law. Its a bit of a moot point anyway. I don't like the body scanners, as many others don't, and the federal government has capitulated by agreeing to full body pat downs when a scanner is refused. I do not object to these pat downs. I never have. I object to being treated differently to my husband because I have a vagina instead of a dick. And I am protected in that objection by the US constitution along with legal precedent. Protecting against terrorism doesn't necessitate gender discrimination. They can protect in accordance with the law of the US while operating in or on behalf of the United States. | |||
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" I do not object to these pat downs. I never have" Well there's a new role play we can try... | |||
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" I do not object to these pat downs. I never have Well there's a new role play we can try... " | |||
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"Courtney out of curiosity why did you refuse the body scanner? Do you work for the TSA? Last time I checked....no Because, contrary to some rather arguable legal precedent, it is my contention that the body scanners constitute an illegal search and seizure by agents of the federal government. So I protest by always refusing the body scanners. Surely National Security is a lot more important than your human rights Seems like a slippery slope to servitude. The idea of security is to protect our human rights surely. At airports I thought that the idea was to protect us from terrorists . A difficult enough job with the travelling public also wanting to enforce their human rights , whatever these may be . In the United States, agents of the US federal government have to operate in accordance with the Constitution. That is just fact. Even when protecting against terrorist. I will note that I didn't use the term "human rights." I did that purposely. I am arguing a point of US law, not human rights law. Its a bit of a moot point anyway. I don't like the body scanners, as many others don't, and the federal government has capitulated by agreeing to full body pat downs when a scanner is refused. I do not object to these pat downs. I never have. I object to being treated differently to my husband because I have a vagina instead of a dick. And I am protected in that objection by the US constitution along with legal precedent. Protecting against terrorism doesn't necessitate gender discrimination. They can protect in accordance with the law of the US while operating in or on behalf of the United States." | |||
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" I do not object to these pat downs. I never have Well there's a new role play we can try... " Do they still have that form that asks "are you coming to the United States to commit any immoral acts?" I asked the guy to define 'imoral acts' since I was planning on jacking off during the trip and that's not something the Pope would approve of. He didn't see the funny side. | |||
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" I do not object to these pat downs. I never have Well there's a new role play we can try... Do they still have that form that asks "are you coming to the United States to commit any immoral acts?" I asked the guy to define 'imoral acts' since I was planning on jacking off during the trip and that's not something the Pope would approve of. He didn't see the funny side. " When I filled out my visa application for the UK I had to affirm that I was not a terrorist. I wonder if any terrorist ever got to that part of the visa application and decided to be honest. | |||
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"There's an awful lot of flying going on in this thread.... I'm taking names down " How do tree huggers get there - swim? | |||
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" I do not object to these pat downs. I never have Well there's a new role play we can try... Do they still have that form that asks "are you coming to the United States to commit any immoral acts?" I asked the guy to define 'imoral acts' since I was planning on jacking off during the trip and that's not something the Pope would approve of. He didn't see the funny side. When I filled out my visa application for the UK I had to affirm that I was not a terrorist. I wonder if any terrorist ever got to that part of the visa application and decided to be honest. " I always find those sort of declarations funny on the forms because they really only exist to give the state another thing to prosecute. | |||
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"There's an awful lot of flying going on in this thread.... I'm taking names down How do tree huggers get there - swim? " . Boat, it's scientifically proven that travel by sea has less climate disruption than flying, however the best advise is not to travel at all unless absolutely necessary! | |||
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"There's an awful lot of flying going on in this thread.... I'm taking names down " I try not now. | |||
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" I do not object to these pat downs. I never have Well there's a new role play we can try... Do they still have that form that asks "are you coming to the United States to commit any immoral acts?" I asked the guy to define 'imoral acts' since I was planning on jacking off during the trip and that's not something the Pope would approve of. He didn't see the funny side. When I filled out my visa application for the UK I had to affirm that I was not a terrorist. I wonder if any terrorist ever got to that part of the visa application and decided to be honest. " Actually once I got angry at one of the guys at Heathrow, not sure if he'd done something wrong or it was just the early start. I got quite shitty with him and asked him sarcastically "so how many terrorist attacks have you ever foiled by groping another man?" | |||
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" I do not object to these pat downs. I never have Well there's a new role play we can try... Do they still have that form that asks "are you coming to the United States to commit any immoral acts?" I asked the guy to define 'imoral acts' since I was planning on jacking off during the trip and that's not something the Pope would approve of. He didn't see the funny side. When I filled out my visa application for the UK I had to affirm that I was not a terrorist. I wonder if any terrorist ever got to that part of the visa application and decided to be honest. I always find those sort of declarations funny on the forms because they really only exist to give the state another thing to prosecute. " Are you insinuating that the terrorist would LIE?!? | |||
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"There's an awful lot of flying going on in this thread.... I'm taking names down How do tree huggers get there - swim? . Boat, it's scientifically proven that travel by sea has less climate disruption than flying, however the best advise is not to travel at all unless absolutely necessary!" Didn't work out well for the passenger's of titanic though. You know full well that travel is essential for economic growth. Economic growth rapes the planet but it will also develop the technology so we can find another one. Sorry we can't take the whales with us though. | |||
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"When travelling back from Amsterdam once and having lost my passport in an Amsterdam haze, I was allowed through customs on production of my Tesco Clubcard." Lol, I had a similar thing actually. Maybe my Johnny English accent helped. | |||
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"When travelling back from Amsterdam once and having lost my passport in an Amsterdam haze, I was allowed through customs on production of my Tesco Clubcard." | |||
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" When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line " . There's two people in this world, those that think the government are incompetent and those that think the government just act incompetent!. | |||
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"When travelling back from Amsterdam once and having lost my passport in an Amsterdam haze, I was allowed through customs on production of my Tesco Clubcard." | |||
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"I cant be arsed with the grief so I have 2 passports and I use the 'clean' one for the US and the one with the dodgy stamps in for everywhere else " I think you just got yourself on a few lists, too | |||
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"I wouldn't care what security measures they do if it keeps people safe when flying You clearly haven't seen me with my trousers around my ankles because they demanded my belt. Next time I'll remember to wear underwear... Mr.ddc" Buy some pants with buttons on | |||
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" When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line . There's two people in this world, those that think the government are incompetent and those that think the government just act incompetent!. " I'll let you guess which one I am | |||
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"There's an awful lot of flying going on in this thread.... I'm taking names down How do tree huggers get there - swim? . Boat, it's scientifically proven that travel by sea has less climate disruption than flying, however the best advise is not to travel at all unless absolutely necessary! Didn't work out well for the passenger's of titanic though. You know full well that travel is essential for economic growth. Economic growth rapes the planet but it will also develop the technology so we can find another one. Sorry we can't take the whales with us though. " . Travel is essential for economic growth?. Yeah that's debatable but you better get busy with that technology... You've got about 30 years going of current evidence | |||
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" When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line . There's two people in this world, those that think the government are incompetent and those that think the government just act incompetent!. I'll let you guess which one I am " . Eenie meenie miney.... . . . Hey marc is that guy in the Mac following us.. . Yep don't panic though it's that perv off fab | |||
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" When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line . There's two people in this world, those that think the government are incompetent and those that think the government just act incompetent!. I'll let you guess which one I am . Eenie meenie miney.... . . . Hey marc is that guy in the Mac following us.. . Yep don't panic though it's that perv off fab " | |||
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"My boobs have never made the machines beep in the US but they always used to over here and at European airports. " Now you have me wondering what you're hiding in there | |||
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" When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line . There's two people in this world, those that think the government are incompetent and those that think the government just act incompetent!. " They only knew that because they had an information system developed by a private company!!! | |||
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"My boobs have never made the machines beep in the US but they always used to over here and at European airports. Now you have me wondering what you're hiding in there " I think it's the upholstery rather than the boobs but it is funny when they use the handheld scanner and go round and round each boob. | |||
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"There's an awful lot of flying going on in this thread.... I'm taking names down How do tree huggers get there - swim? . Boat, it's scientifically proven that travel by sea has less climate disruption than flying, however the best advise is not to travel at all unless absolutely necessary! Didn't work out well for the passenger's of titanic though. You know full well that travel is essential for economic growth. Economic growth rapes the planet but it will also develop the technology so we can find another one. Sorry we can't take the whales with us though. . Travel is essential for economic growth?. Yeah that's debatable but you better get busy with that technology... You've got about 30 years going of current evidence" If you're going to be a negative Nancy then you can just stay in Chile when we all go off to mars | |||
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" When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line . There's two people in this world, those that think the government are incompetent and those that think the government just act incompetent!. They only knew that because they had an information system developed by a private company!!!" With research and development funded by a government grant! | |||
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" When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line . There's two people in this world, those that think the government are incompetent and those that think the government just act incompetent!. They only knew that because they had an information system developed by a private company!!! With research and development funded by a government grant!" Governments don't have any money, it's just our money they spend | |||
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"There's an awful lot of flying going on in this thread.... I'm taking names down How do tree huggers get there - swim? . Boat, it's scientifically proven that travel by sea has less climate disruption than flying, however the best advise is not to travel at all unless absolutely necessary! Didn't work out well for the passenger's of titanic though. You know full well that travel is essential for economic growth. Economic growth rapes the planet but it will also develop the technology so we can find another one. Sorry we can't take the whales with us though. . Travel is essential for economic growth?. Yeah that's debatable but you better get busy with that technology... You've got about 30 years going of current evidence If you're going to be a negative Nancy then you can just stay in Chile when we all go off to mars " . Shush with chi le info... There watching | |||
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" When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line . There's two people in this world, those that think the government are incompetent and those that think the government just act incompetent!. They only knew that because they had an information system developed by a private company!!! With research and development funded by a government grant! Governments don't have any money, it's just our money they spend" Right. Same with private companies. | |||
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" When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line . There's two people in this world, those that think the government are incompetent and those that think the government just act incompetent!. They only knew that because they had an information system developed by a private company!!! With research and development funded by a government grant! Governments don't have any money, it's just our money they spend" . Technically you don't have any money that isn't created by government | |||
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" When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line . There's two people in this world, those that think the government are incompetent and those that think the government just act incompetent!. They only knew that because they had an information system developed by a private company!!! With research and development funded by a government grant! Governments don't have any money, it's just our money they spend. Technically you don't have any money that isn't created by government " Unless you use Bitcoins...in which case you should also be on some lists. | |||
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" When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line . There's two people in this world, those that think the government are incompetent and those that think the government just act incompetent!. They only knew that because they had an information system developed by a private company!!! With research and development funded by a government grant! Governments don't have any money, it's just our money they spend Right. Same with private companies. " If you go to the balance sheet of any private company and look at the line for shareholders funds. If it's a positive number, which most are, it means the company has generated more money than it was originally bestowed with. Governments on the other hand just spend money. | |||
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" When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line . There's two people in this world, those that think the government are incompetent and those that think the government just act incompetent!. They only knew that because they had an information system developed by a private company!!! With research and development funded by a government grant! Governments don't have any money, it's just our money they spend. Technically you don't have any money that isn't created by government " Money is just an exchange mechanism. We can go back to bartering if it means we have less parasites in parliament? I offer you 2 pigs, half a horse and a bushel of corn for the land rights to 30 square meters in your Chile hippy camp? | |||
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" When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line . There's two people in this world, those that think the government are incompetent and those that think the government just act incompetent!. They only knew that because they had an information system developed by a private company!!! With research and development funded by a government grant! Governments don't have any money, it's just our money they spend. Technically you don't have any money that isn't created by government Unless you use Bitcoins...in which case you should also be on some lists. " . I've got five | |||
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" When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line . There's two people in this world, those that think the government are incompetent and those that think the government just act incompetent!. They only knew that because they had an information system developed by a private company!!! With research and development funded by a government grant! Governments don't have any money, it's just our money they spend Right. Same with private companies. If you go to the balance sheet of any private company and look at the line for shareholders funds. If it's a positive number, which most are, it means the company has generated more money than it was originally bestowed with. Governments on the other hand just spend money. " Smoke and mirrors. Money from private companies doesn't go anywhere but back into the company and back to the rich who fund/own that company. The government makes money in a literal sense, from a combination of Locke's labor theory of value and Rousseau's social contract. | |||
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" When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line . There's two people in this world, those that think the government are incompetent and those that think the government just act incompetent!. They only knew that because they had an information system developed by a private company!!! With research and development funded by a government grant! Governments don't have any money, it's just our money they spend Right. Same with private companies. If you go to the balance sheet of any private company and look at the line for shareholders funds. If it's a positive number, which most are, it means the company has generated more money than it was originally bestowed with. Governments on the other hand just spend money. Smoke and mirrors. Money from private companies doesn't go anywhere but back into the company and back to the rich who fund/own that company. The government makes money in a literal sense, from a combination of Locke's labor theory of value and Rousseau's social contract. " No shit???? And just how old is Rousseaus social contract???? | |||
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" When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line . There's two people in this world, those that think the government are incompetent and those that think the government just act incompetent!. They only knew that because they had an information system developed by a private company!!! With research and development funded by a government grant! Governments don't have any money, it's just our money they spend. Technically you don't have any money that isn't created by government Money is just an exchange mechanism. We can go back to bartering if it means we have less parasites in parliament? I offer you 2 pigs, half a horse and a bushel of corn for the land rights to 30 square meters in your Chile hippy camp? " . You need authority for it to be accepted, nobody except government could issue scrap paper for value let alone binary digits. If money had intrinsic value, you'd never have any growth but then you need belief in it being worth anything... And around and around you go. You could base it on gold if you revalued gold to about 20,000 dollars an ounce?.... Paper money will be gone within 5 years anyhow, cards within ten, just a beep on your smart watch! | |||
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" When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line . There's two people in this world, those that think the government are incompetent and those that think the government just act incompetent!. They only knew that because they had an information system developed by a private company!!! With research and development funded by a government grant! Governments don't have any money, it's just our money they spend Right. Same with private companies. If you go to the balance sheet of any private company and look at the line for shareholders funds. If it's a positive number, which most are, it means the company has generated more money than it was originally bestowed with. Governments on the other hand just spend money. Smoke and mirrors. Money from private companies doesn't go anywhere but back into the company and back to the rich who fund/own that company. The government makes money in a literal sense, from a combination of Locke's labor theory of value and Rousseau's social contract. No shit???? And just how old is Rousseaus social contract????" Well, I can give you the date he wrote his treatise, I can give you the date that Hobbes wrote about it before him, or we can talk about more modern theories of the social contract. I'm not sure why the date matters, but the theory is accurate for modern society. Or do you think we still operate in a state of nature? | |||
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" When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line . There's two people in this world, those that think the government are incompetent and those that think the government just act incompetent!. They only knew that because they had an information system developed by a private company!!! With research and development funded by a government grant! Governments don't have any money, it's just our money they spend Right. Same with private companies. If you go to the balance sheet of any private company and look at the line for shareholders funds. If it's a positive number, which most are, it means the company has generated more money than it was originally bestowed with. Governments on the other hand just spend money. Smoke and mirrors. Money from private companies doesn't go anywhere but back into the company and back to the rich who fund/own that company. The government makes money in a literal sense, from a combination of Locke's labor theory of value and Rousseau's social contract. " Re locke and rousseau - yeah it does a bit. But actually you and I own most public companies as pension funds are one of the largest investors worldwide, rich individuals are a very small percentage of institutional ownership. Whilst individuals used to own 54% of the market cap of the FTSE 100 in 1963, by 2012 that had dropped to just 4.7% making them smaller than insurance companies and pension funds. Private companies systematically lower the cost of everyday goods whilst employing people which allows you and I to buy more goods than our parents could for an average salary. That's why you guys won the cold war. | |||
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"Well, I can give you the date he wrote his treatise, I can give you the date that Hobbes wrote about it before him, or we can talk about more modern theories of the social contract. I'm not sure why the date matters, but the theory is accurate for modern society. Or do you think we still operate in a state of nature? " Actually, now that I think about it, the state of nature theory would explain my experience at JFK rather nicely | |||
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" When Marc went through the Zurich airport on transit to Moscow he was questioned in a private office by an FBI agent. Apparently a 22 year old American male who speaks Russian traveling alone to Russia is suspicious. He identified him by name in the security line . There's two people in this world, those that think the government are incompetent and those that think the government just act incompetent!. They only knew that because they had an information system developed by a private company!!! With research and development funded by a government grant! Governments don't have any money, it's just our money they spend. Technically you don't have any money that isn't created by government Money is just an exchange mechanism. We can go back to bartering if it means we have less parasites in parliament? I offer you 2 pigs, half a horse and a bushel of corn for the land rights to 30 square meters in your Chile hippy camp? . You need authority for it to be accepted, nobody except government could issue scrap paper for value let alone binary digits. If money had intrinsic value, you'd never have any growth but then you need belief in it being worth anything... And around and around you go. You could base it on gold if you revalued gold to about 20,000 dollars an ounce?.... Paper money will be gone within 5 years anyhow, cards within ten, just a beep on your smart watch!" Paper money ain't going anywhere. How exactly would be operate a black economy without it. You know there are economies in the EU where the black market is about the same size, if not bigger than the official one!! | |||
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"But none of this has to do with how my next foray into JFK airport is going to pan out " . . . Just fly to Mexico city and scale the wall. . Or Toronto and then by small boat through the lakes, finishing with a barrel ride over Niagara.. . . Failing that just wear underwear from now on and accept the scanner | |||
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" Paper money ain't going anywhere. How exactly would be operate a black economy without it. You know there are economies in the EU where the black market is about the same size, if not bigger than the official one!! " . I'm just quoting the head of the BoE who said in his last address at LSE that he'd like paper money gone within 5 years, or at least _educed to a maximum 5 pounds. It's not something new, the fed have slowly _educed there maximum note to a 100 the ecb I think is only 100 now as well, talk last month was that £50 would be slowly removed sooner rather than later | |||
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" Paper money ain't going anywhere. How exactly would be operate a black economy without it. You know there are economies in the EU where the black market is about the same size, if not bigger than the official one!! . I'm just quoting the head of the BoE who said in his last address at LSE that he'd like paper money gone within 5 years, or at least _educed to a maximum 5 pounds. It's not something new, the fed have slowly _educed there maximum note to a 100 the ecb I think is only 100 now as well, talk last month was that £50 would be slowly removed sooner rather than later" Of course he wants it gone! Doesn't mean it's in our interests though! | |||
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"They wanna go NIRP and NIRP don't work with cash, who would pay to keep money in the bank?. It would all be under beds and carpet " Fucking vampires. I think we might have hijacked another thread... | |||
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"They wanna go NIRP and NIRP don't work with cash, who would pay to keep money in the bank?. It would all be under beds and carpet Fucking vampires. I think we might have hijacked another thread... " . Hijacked!! I'm afraid I might have to pat you down | |||
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"I wouldn't care what security measures they do if it keeps people safe when flying" Agreed! !! | |||
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"They wanna go NIRP and NIRP don't work with cash, who would pay to keep money in the bank?. It would all be under beds and carpet Fucking vampires. I think we might have hijacked another thread... . Hijacked!! I'm afraid I might have to pat you down Thread terrorists! If someone told me that fab had terrorists, I'd guess you two first. Thanks, don't you think we'd have a dynamite meet if we all got together in a hot tub and verbally spa_ed before working up to fever pitch... " Nothing turns me on more than some sexy verbal sparring | |||
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"I wouldn't care what security measures they do if it keeps people safe when flying Agreed! !! . What if the security measures involved locking you up for no reason whatsoever without due process or just bumping you off with a drone Nah come to think of it, Obama's already done it" ANYTHING in the name of safety and security! Shame on you for not thinking the same. | |||
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"They wanna go NIRP and NIRP don't work with cash, who would pay to keep money in the bank?. It would all be under beds and carpet Fucking vampires. I think we might have hijacked another thread... . Hijacked!! I'm afraid I might have to pat you down Thread terrorists! If someone told me that fab had terrorists, I'd guess you two first. Thanks, don't you think we'd have a dynamite meet if we all got together in a hot tub and verbally spa_ed before working up to fever pitch... Nothing turns me on more than some sexy verbal sparring " . Aha so that was your plan with the TSA all along you harlet | |||
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"They wanna go NIRP and NIRP don't work with cash, who would pay to keep money in the bank?. It would all be under beds and carpet Fucking vampires. I think we might have hijacked another thread... . Hijacked!! I'm afraid I might have to pat you down Thread terrorists! If someone told me that fab had terrorists, I'd guess you two first. Thanks, don't you think we'd have a dynamite meet if we all got together in a hot tub and verbally spa_ed before working up to fever pitch... Nothing turns me on more than some sexy verbal sparring " There's no better combination than a hot tub, macro economics and tits. | |||
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"I wouldn't care what security measures they do if it keeps people safe when flying Agreed! !! . What if the security measures involved locking you up for no reason whatsoever without due process or just bumping you off with a drone Nah come to think of it, Obama's already done it ANYTHING in the name of safety and security! Shame on you for not thinking the same. " . Some people need to put this thread together with lone wolfs remarks about Sims on the other thread!!. Eisenhower left office with a personal address about the dangers of an unwatched military industrial complex and Carter last year said the USA is heading for oligarchy!..... Now shut up and vote Clinton | |||
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"They wanna go NIRP and NIRP don't work with cash, who would pay to keep money in the bank?. It would all be under beds and carpet Fucking vampires. I think we might have hijacked another thread... . Hijacked!! I'm afraid I might have to pat you down Thread terrorists! If someone told me that fab had terrorists, I'd guess you two first. Thanks, don't you think we'd have a dynamite meet if we all got together in a hot tub and verbally spa_ed before working up to fever pitch... Nothing turns me on more than some sexy verbal sparring " Tonight Marc and Courtney are making love when he leans in and whispers to her ear: "talk Keynes to me baby" | |||
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" There's no better combination than a hot tub, macro economics and tits. " . I object to the water being heated by non renewables.... Wait did you say tits.. Ok I'll let it go just this once | |||
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"They wanna go NIRP and NIRP don't work with cash, who would pay to keep money in the bank?. It would all be under beds and carpet Fucking vampires. I think we might have hijacked another thread... . Hijacked!! I'm afraid I might have to pat you down Thread terrorists! If someone told me that fab had terrorists, I'd guess you two first. Thanks, don't you think we'd have a dynamite meet if we all got together in a hot tub and verbally spa_ed before working up to fever pitch... Nothing turns me on more than some sexy verbal sparring Tonight Marc and Courtney are making love when he leans in and whispers to her ear: "talk Keynes to me baby" " If we make love to keynes, what do we fuck to? | |||
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" There's no better combination than a hot tub, macro economics and tits. . I object to the water being heated by non renewables.... Wait did you say tits.. Ok I'll let it go just this once " You liberals are so easy | |||
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" Tonight Marc and Courtney are making love when he leans in and whispers to her ear: "talk Keynes to me baby" " . Five will get you ten she's got him dressed in a TSA outfit as we speak | |||
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" Tonight Marc and Courtney are making love when he leans in and whispers to her ear: "talk Keynes to me baby" . Five will get you ten she's got him dressed in a TSA outfit as we speak" | |||
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" There's no better combination than a hot tub, macro economics and tits. . I object to the water being heated by non renewables.... Wait did you say tits.. Ok I'll let it go just this once You liberals are so easy " . I've been wanking on my roof all morning over my neighbour using a hosepipe. . I think you'll find I'm very hard to get | |||
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"They wanna go NIRP and NIRP don't work with cash, who would pay to keep money in the bank?. It would all be under beds and carpet Fucking vampires. I think we might have hijacked another thread... . Hijacked!! I'm afraid I might have to pat you down Thread terrorists! If someone told me that fab had terrorists, I'd guess you two first. Thanks, don't you think we'd have a dynamite meet if we all got together in a hot tub and verbally spa_ed before working up to fever pitch... Nothing turns me on more than some sexy verbal sparring Tonight Marc and Courtney are making love when he leans in and whispers to her ear: "talk Keynes to me baby" If we make love to keynes, what do we fuck to? " Tricky one because you're American and a left wing American is a centre ground Brit basically. Most lefties are atheists though so maybe a bit of Dawkins? | |||
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"They wanna go NIRP and NIRP don't work with cash, who would pay to keep money in the bank?. It would all be under beds and carpet Fucking vampires. I think we might have hijacked another thread... . Hijacked!! I'm afraid I might have to pat you down Thread terrorists! If someone told me that fab had terrorists, I'd guess you two first. Thanks, don't you think we'd have a dynamite meet if we all got together in a hot tub and verbally spa_ed before working up to fever pitch... Nothing turns me on more than some sexy verbal sparring Tonight Marc and Courtney are making love when he leans in and whispers to her ear: "talk Keynes to me baby" If we make love to keynes, what do we fuck to? Tricky one because you're American and a left wing American is a centre ground Brit basically. Most lefties are atheists though so maybe a bit of Dawkins? " Like this: https://youtu.be/qz2ljU_Lp74 | |||
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"They wanna go NIRP and NIRP don't work with cash, who would pay to keep money in the bank?. It would all be under beds and carpet Fucking vampires. I think we might have hijacked another thread... . Hijacked!! I'm afraid I might have to pat you down Thread terrorists! If someone told me that fab had terrorists, I'd guess you two first. Thanks, don't you think we'd have a dynamite meet if we all got together in a hot tub and verbally spa_ed before working up to fever pitch... Nothing turns me on more than some sexy verbal sparring Tonight Marc and Courtney are making love when he leans in and whispers to her ear: "talk Keynes to me baby" If we make love to keynes, what do we fuck to? Tricky one because you're American and a left wing American is a centre ground Brit basically. Most lefties are atheists though so maybe a bit of Dawkins? Like this: https://youtu.be/qz2ljU_Lp74" It's like you can see inside of our bedroom as we speak. But I'm pretty left for the UK, too. In the US they just call me crazy | |||
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"They wanna go NIRP and NIRP don't work with cash, who would pay to keep money in the bank?. It would all be under beds and carpet Fucking vampires. I think we might have hijacked another thread... . Hijacked!! I'm afraid I might have to pat you down Thread terrorists! If someone told me that fab had terrorists, I'd guess you two first. Thanks, don't you think we'd have a dynamite meet if we all got together in a hot tub and verbally spa_ed before working up to fever pitch... Nothing turns me on more than some sexy verbal sparring Tonight Marc and Courtney are making love when he leans in and whispers to her ear: "talk Keynes to me baby" If we make love to keynes, what do we fuck to? Tricky one because you're American and a left wing American is a centre ground Brit basically. Most lefties are atheists though so maybe a bit of Dawkins? Like this: https://youtu.be/qz2ljU_Lp74 It's like you can see inside of our bedroom as we speak. But I'm pretty left for the UK, too. In the US they just call me crazy " You're a Bernie Sanders fan not a Ron Paul one!! | |||
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"They wanna go NIRP and NIRP don't work with cash, who would pay to keep money in the bank?. It would all be under beds and carpet Fucking vampires. I think we might have hijacked another thread... . Hijacked!! I'm afraid I might have to pat you down Thread terrorists! If someone told me that fab had terrorists, I'd guess you two first. Thanks, don't you think we'd have a dynamite meet if we all got together in a hot tub and verbally spa_ed before working up to fever pitch... Nothing turns me on more than some sexy verbal sparring Tonight Marc and Courtney are making love when he leans in and whispers to her ear: "talk Keynes to me baby" If we make love to keynes, what do we fuck to? Tricky one because you're American and a left wing American is a centre ground Brit basically. Most lefties are atheists though so maybe a bit of Dawkins? Like this: https://youtu.be/qz2ljU_Lp74 It's like you can see inside of our bedroom as we speak. But I'm pretty left for the UK, too. In the US they just call me crazy You're a Bernie Sanders fan not a Ron Paul one!!" I'm actually a fan of Dennis Kucinich, but he didn't run this cycle. | |||
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"They wanna go NIRP and NIRP don't work with cash, who would pay to keep money in the bank?. It would all be under beds and carpet Fucking vampires. I think we might have hijacked another thread... . Hijacked!! I'm afraid I might have to pat you down Thread terrorists! If someone told me that fab had terrorists, I'd guess you two first. Thanks, don't you think we'd have a dynamite meet if we all got together in a hot tub and verbally spa_ed before working up to fever pitch... Nothing turns me on more than some sexy verbal sparring Tonight Marc and Courtney are making love when he leans in and whispers to her ear: "talk Keynes to me baby" If we make love to keynes, what do we fuck to? Tricky one because you're American and a left wing American is a centre ground Brit basically. Most lefties are atheists though so maybe a bit of Dawkins? Like this: https://youtu.be/qz2ljU_Lp74 It's like you can see inside of our bedroom as we speak. But I'm pretty left for the UK, too. In the US they just call me crazy You're a Bernie Sanders fan not a Ron Paul one!! I'm actually a fan of Dennis Kucinich, but he didn't run this cycle. " That's cool, he's the same height as me so there's hope yet | |||
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