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"didn't even know who he was so googled him. glad someone else sorts out these people so i don't have to. life in prison though, and not death. " Agreed, I'd never heard of him either till I read this thread, and believe life imprisonment is the best way to deal with people as sick as this. Why? Because they'll be kept well away from anyone who they may be a threat to, and also can be analysed and tested throughout their lives. Learning what makes these people so utterly depraved in the head, may prove incredibly valuable in future for understanding the paedophile mind, what it is that makes them as sick as they are, and maybe even cure it - killing them won't achieve anything. | |||
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"It's just that every now and then a case comes along that tests the will of even the strongest opponent of the death penalty. I used to be opposed but am not so sure as there are some seriously evil people out there who will always pose a threat to those around them." well i didn't like reading about him and now that fucked up shit is in my head. i do think some people really don't deserve to live but at the same time i know it's not right to take anyone elses life and i shouldn't really justify who is worthy of life and who isn't, but yes some people really test that and i usually keep this last paragraphs opinions to myself. | |||
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"Execution is wrong. [THREAD CLOSED]" Life in prison is psychological torture Thread reopened I'm anti the death penalty and would not vote for it However suggesting life incarceration is more humane would be fallacious The irony is in most cases locking a bad human away for the entirety of their life is a form of torture and many in this case might say so deserved as death would be "too good" too kind to him ? | |||
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"The irony is in most cases locking a bad human away for the entirety of their life is a form of torture and many in this case might say so deserved as death would be "too good" too kind to him ?" This. It's a horrifying thought, every event that takes place in the world, you will never be a part of. You'll barely ever see your family or loved ones, you won't be there when they might need you, as they suffer, largely due whatever it was you did that landed you there, you won't be there to ask them to forgive you, to make it right, you cut a terrible wound upon the ones who loved you most, and it's too late to make amends. You'll be surrounded by the worst of human filth all your life, ever reminding you that you're one of them. Every night, you'll sleep in that cold cell, light's out at the exact same time, you'll dream perhaps of wonderful things, then reawaken in that cold box, every morning for as long as you live. When your time finally arrives, as you feel the life, the one life you had, leave you, cold, alone and unloved, perhaps you will understand the value of the humanity you gambled, and lost. | |||
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"Execution is wrong. [THREAD CLOSED] Life in prison is psychological torture Thread reopened I'm anti the death penalty and would not vote for it However suggesting life incarceration is more humane would be fallacious The irony is in most cases locking a bad human away for the entirety of their life is a form of torture and many in this case might say so deserved as death would be "too good" too kind to him ? " Reality check - The problem with our justice system is that from time to time it gets things wrong. It's bad enough for people like Stefan Klitschko who spent 16 yrs inside for a crime he would have been hanged for but was eventually proven to be a miscarriage of justice. At least you can say sorry and let them out. If there's a death penalty - no matter how obvious the crime may be - you *have* to give the vilest of scum the same basic rights that you would demand in their position. [THREAD CLOSED] | |||
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"Execution isn't an option so why mention it? He will live out his life (however short/long that may be) in a high security prison where he belongs. " That is not entirely true he can be considered for parole at the age of 54 years (in 23 years time) He has already spent 488 days in jail, so faces more than 23 years in prison before a parole board can consider his release so what is the bloody point of 22 life sentences, this world has gone mad!!!! | |||
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"What I don't understand about this story is that he doesn't appear to be either Asian, a Muslim or an immigrant. Instead he seems to be a white Christian abusing poor foreign Asian children. Surely this can't be right? Mr ddc" Pathetic | |||
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"Execution isn't an option so why mention it? He will live out his life (however short/long that may be) in a high security prison where he belongs. That is not entirely true he can be considered for parole at the age of 54 years (in 23 years time) He has already spent 488 days in jail, so faces more than 23 years in prison before a parole board can consider his release so what is the bloody point of 22 life sentences, this world has gone mad!!!!" I used to work with the Probation Service. He has to show remorse to be considered for parole. He will never be remorseful. He intends to marry 1 of his female victims in order to carry on his abuse. I imagine he will be far older than 54 when released. If he's still alive | |||
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"Execution isn't an option so why mention it? He will live out his life (however short/long that may be) in a high security prison where he belongs. That is not entirely true he can be considered for parole at the age of 54 years (in 23 years time) He has already spent 488 days in jail, so faces more than 23 years in prison before a parole board can consider his release so what is the bloody point of 22 life sentences, this world has gone mad!!!! I used to work with the Probation Service. He has to show remorse to be considered for parole. He will never be remorseful. He intends to marry 1 of his female victims in order to carry on his abuse. I imagine he will be far older than 54 when released. If he's still alive " How do you show remorse ? | |||
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"Execution isn't an option so why mention it? He will live out his life (however short/long that may be) in a high security prison where he belongs. That is not entirely true he can be considered for parole at the age of 54 years (in 23 years time) He has already spent 488 days in jail, so faces more than 23 years in prison before a parole board can consider his release so what is the bloody point of 22 life sentences, this world has gone mad!!!! I used to work with the Probation Service. He has to show remorse to be considered for parole. He will never be remorseful. He intends to marry 1 of his female victims in order to carry on his abuse. I imagine he will be far older than 54 when released. If he's still alive " Isn't it also true that he won't start his treatment programmes until his minimum tariff is served? So even though he 'could' be considered for parole after 23 years he won't have even started any of the sex offender treatment programmes offered in prison until then. | |||
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"What I don't understand about this story is that he doesn't appear to be either Asian, a Muslim or an immigrant. Instead he seems to be a white Christian abusing poor foreign Asian children. Surely this can't be right? Mr ddc Pathetic " Tell that to Mr Farage... | |||
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"Execution isn't an option so why mention it? He will live out his life (however short/long that may be) in a high security prison where he belongs. That is not entirely true he can be considered for parole at the age of 54 years (in 23 years time) He has already spent 488 days in jail, so faces more than 23 years in prison before a parole board can consider his release so what is the bloody point of 22 life sentences, this world has gone mad!!!! I used to work with the Probation Service. He has to show remorse to be considered for parole. He will never be remorseful. He intends to marry 1 of his female victims in order to carry on his abuse. I imagine he will be far older than 54 when released. If he's still alive Isn't it also true that he won't start his treatment programmes until his minimum tariff is served? So even though he 'could' be considered for parole after 23 years he won't have even started any of the sex offender treatment programmes offered in prison until then." I'm not sure - I dealt with those who breached community or suspended orders but can ask a friend! | |||
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" Knowing the crimes he is guilty of would you keep Huckle in jail or execute him ?" Always life in prison, execution is never an option. Even if one ignores the moral issues, it is still too quick. Basic prison, bed, loo, seat, perhaps a book or two, and lots and lots of hour to suffer alone. Only exit is in a box Owl | |||
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" Knowing the crimes he is guilty of would you keep Huckle in jail or execute him ?" I don't believe in capital punishment under any circumstances as one innocent person executed is one too many. Child molesters/murderers face a lifetime of abuse in prison and I'm ok with that. | |||
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" Knowing the crimes he is guilty of would you keep Huckle in jail or execute him ? I don't believe in capital punishment under any circumstances as one innocent person executed is one too many. Child molesters/murderers face a lifetime of abuse in prison and I'm ok with that." Don't be silly! he'll be fine! Protected from other prisoners in a secure wing. And in 25 years time a free man! His debt to society repaid in full | |||
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