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By *ikeC81 OP   Man
over a year ago

harrow

After noticing on the thread about health I have decided to announce in my status that yes I had a breakdown 3 years ago, mainly caused by work but other issues as well.

I always had issues body mainly.

Yes I was on anti depressants for 3 months, yes I was off work for 2 months, I had counciling as well

Why this is a look at me thread, I just hope my openess encourages other men (but not just men), to reach out to some one gp, family, and seek help

It have it mostly under control but have my bad days and that's fine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After noticing on the thread about health I have decided to announce in my status that yes I had a breakdown 3 years ago, mainly caused by work but other issues as well.

I always had issues body mainly.

Yes I was on anti depressants for 3 months, yes I was off work for 2 months, I had counciling as well

Why this is a look at me thread, I just hope my openess encourages other men (but not just men), to reach out to some one gp, family, and seek help

It have it mostly under control but have my bad days and that's fine "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We all need a little help at times, that's nothing to be ashamed of or hide.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've not ever been as diagnosed as clinically depressed, though I know that sometimes I do get that black dog haunting me

A few years ago I had a really stressful time at work, and even asked the doc to be signed off for a couple of weeks.

In some ways I saw it as a failure to deal with the situation, not manning up and facing the problems.

But it gave me time to actually evaluate where I was at that moment and decide how I was going to go forward.

I think there is a huge amount of pressure, in particular for men to carry on regardless. You saw some of that in Grayson Perry's recent program.

But if you can take that first step them you're only going to move forwards

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Glad your ok op. X

There seems to be a sigma around mental health and men which I feel is wrong ..Their told to man up ,get on with it ,almost like it's a failure to admit they have feelings /problems and need help .

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By *ikeC81 OP   Man
over a year ago

harrow


"Glad your ok op. X

There seems to be a sigma around mental health and men which I feel is wrong ..Their told to man up ,get on with it ,almost like it's a failure to admit they have feelings /problems and need help ."

m

Agreed i saw this especially in the ptsd with the forces on the invictus games

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I applauds you for being open and honest and quite a lot of threads on mental illness but i am curious why youve put it as your status?

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By *ikeC81 OP   Man
over a year ago

harrow

Well it was the discussion on body that got me thinking hang on people need to know that even people who appear normal still struggle with mental illness

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Well it was the discussion on body that got me thinking hang on people need to know that even people who appear normal still struggle with mental illness "
does it affect you on meets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately because you can't see that there's physically anything wrong. Mental illness often can go hidden. Those of us that do suffer are very very good at hiding it too. I've become very good at putting on my mask and pretending everythings ok when it's far from it!! I'm the world's greatest bottler upperer. Part of helping overcome or easing your mental illness is learning to open up and talk. Omg!! That is the hardest thing ever. I'm getting better at it though. Although it's only taken over 20 years!! Lol. So, as BT used to say. "It's good to talk".

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By *ikeC81 OP   Man
over a year ago

harrow


"Well it was the discussion on body that got me thinking hang on people need to know that even people who appear normal still struggle with mental illness does it affect you on meets"

Ummmmm good question, never really thought about it

I would say in past yes for sure. Currently ummmm I would say no, however I wil caveat tHat by saying I only tend to meet in usual club where I know people

I find when I am not in usual club or at a hotel with new people I go introverted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a male in my office who suffers from varying degrees of depression and anxiety over what seems to be very small issues to the unaffected.

I spend quite a bit of my working week talking to him through a toilet door as he has a habit of locking himself away.

I am surprised how prevalent it is these days.

It's something I discussed with my Grandad when my Grandma died. He spent the war in a horrific prisoner of war camp without being affected but when he lost my Grandma it hit him so hard and his pride wouldn't let him deal with it.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Well it was the discussion on body that got me thinking hang on people need to know that even people who appear normal still struggle with mental illness does it affect you on meets

Ummmmm good question, never really thought about it

I would say in past yes for sure. Currently ummmm I would say no, however I wil caveat tHat by saying I only tend to meet in usual club where I know people

I find when I am not in usual club or at a hotel with new people I go introverted "

i just think that if i saw that on someones status that it was because it waa going to affect the meet especially by saying if it puts you off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its an illness like any other and no one should feel reluctant to seek help or treatment.

I am lucky to have never had tis type of problem but if I did I would ge off to the doc pronto.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well it was the discussion on body that got me thinking hang on people need to know that even people who appear normal still struggle with mental illness does it affect you on meets

Ummmmm good question, never really thought about it

I would say in past yes for sure. Currently ummmm I would say no, however I wil caveat tHat by saying I only tend to meet in usual club where I know people

I find when I am not in usual club or at a hotel with new people I go introverted i just think that if i saw that on someones status that it was because it waa going to affect the meet especially by saying if it puts you off"

I think I would too

There is no reason at all to tell anybody on here your medical history its private

So as you say to me the only reason why somebody would tell you is because it may affect the meet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After noticing on the thread about health I have decided to announce in my status that yes I had a breakdown 3 years ago, mainly caused by work but other issues as well.

I always had issues body mainly.

Yes I was on anti depressants for 3 months, yes I was off work for 2 months, I had counciling as well

Why this is a look at me thread, I just hope my openess encourages other men (but not just men), to reach out to some one gp, family, and seek help

It have it mostly under control but have my bad days and that's fine "

Good man. There should be no stigma. I myself suffer from depression and have done for around 12 years, im on fluoxitine which for the most part keeps me on the straight and narrow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a male in my office who suffers from varying degrees of depression and anxiety over what seems to be very small issues to the unaffected.

I spend quite a bit of my working week talking to him through a toilet door as he has a habit of locking himself away.

I am surprised how prevalent it is these days.

It's something I discussed with my Grandad when my Grandma died. He spent the war in a horrific prisoner of war camp without being affected but when he lost my Grandma it hit him so hard and his pride wouldn't let him deal with it. "

Unfortunately depression takes for want of a better word no prisoners. It affects people in different ways. What to you may seem like a minor thing, to someone who is in a dark spell it can be a huge deal!! You are doing the best thing by both your colleague and grandad. Talking to them! Although with your colleague maybe medical help is also needed. Grandad may just need an ear. Keep up the good listening. There's should be more people like you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Unfortunately because you can't see that there's physically anything wrong. Mental illness often can go hidden. Those of us that do suffer are very very good at hiding it too. I've become very good at putting on my mask and pretending everythings ok when it's far from it!! I'm the world's greatest bottler upperer. Part of helping overcome or easing your mental illness is learning to open up and talk. Omg!! That is the hardest thing ever. I'm getting better at it though. Although it's only taken over 20 years!! Lol. So, as BT used to say. "It's good to talk"."

I bottle things up as well and when it explodes so to speak I often relise would be better to deal with as they happen but never do .weirdly it's little things that get to me not major stuff

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its an illness like any other and no one should feel reluctant to seek help or treatment.

I am lucky to have never had tis type of problem but if I did I would ge off to the doc pronto."

Being unable to motivate yourself to do anything, including seeking help, is part and parcel of depression.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Unfortunately because you can't see that there's physically anything wrong. Mental illness often can go hidden. Those of us that do suffer are very very good at hiding it too. I've become very good at putting on my mask and pretending everythings ok when it's far from it!! I'm the world's greatest bottler upperer. Part of helping overcome or easing your mental illness is learning to open up and talk. Omg!! That is the hardest thing ever. I'm getting better at it though. Although it's only taken over 20 years!! Lol. So, as BT used to say. "It's good to talk".

I bottle things up as well and when it explodes so to speak I often relise would be better to deal with as they happen but never do .weirdly it's little things that get to me not major stuff "

Exactly! I've bought myself a book to write things down in. No matter how big or small. If i can't say it out loud. Sometimes seeing it written is just as emotional. It gives the release that's needed.

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By *yldstyleWoman
over a year ago

A world of my own

Mental health can affect anyone at anytime. I wish there was more understanding and less stigma attached to it.

I'm glad you have come out of the other side OP.

I've seen how devistating it can become and how brave people are who come out the other side

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its an illness like any other and no one should feel reluctant to seek help or treatment.

I am lucky to have never had tis type of problem but if I did I would ge off to the doc pronto.

Being unable to motivate yourself to do anything, including seeking help, is part and parcel of depression."

I fully appreciate that is an issue that many have to overcome.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

20 years ago after leaving the Army I was diagnosed with some anxiety disorder. Went on Sertraline for several months and had CBT. Worked wonders. Since then I have had no problem. My guess is that I couldn't handle the transfer from soldier to civilian. Having a good GP helped.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Unfortunately because you can't see that there's physically anything wrong. Mental illness often can go hidden. Those of us that do suffer are very very good at hiding it too. I've become very good at putting on my mask and pretending everythings ok when it's far from it!! I'm the world's greatest bottler upperer. Part of helping overcome or easing your mental illness is learning to open up and talk. Omg!! That is the hardest thing ever. I'm getting better at it though. Although it's only taken over 20 years!! Lol. So, as BT used to say. "It's good to talk".

I bottle things up as well and when it explodes so to speak I often relise would be better to deal with as they happen but never do .weirdly it's little things that get to me not major stuff

Exactly! I've bought myself a book to write things down in. No matter how big or small. If i can't say it out loud. Sometimes seeing it written is just as emotional. It gives the release that's needed. "

Did that a lot when I was first diagnosed as a child only way I could cope .really need to start it again .

Also find fish oils and bit b complex help but when it's bad just have to go with it and not fight against it

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Ex military and blue light services, saw too many outwardly ok guys take their own lives in both services..

when we as a society break down the myth that being 'a man' has to be 'strong and get on with it' whatever is going on then maybe we will have a reduction in the far too high suicide rates for men in general..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"20 years ago after leaving the Army I was diagnosed with some anxiety disorder. Went on Sertraline for several months and had CBT. Worked wonders. Since then I have had no problem. My guess is that I couldn't handle the transfer from soldier to civilian. Having a good GP helped."

I don't know the stats but I believe the number of ex forces personnel that suffer with depression or ptsd is very high. I wonder just how much help they really get? I know Prince Harry etc are championing it at the mo. How long for? I'm glad you got your help and are ok. As you can probably guess I'm quite passionate about this!! Lol

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By *rincesscaracoupleCouple
over a year ago

Saltburn

I was diagnosed with severe depression 5 years ago, again caused by work. It got to the point where I could not bring myself to go through the company gates and I remember standing outside looking in, crying (grown men don't cry right?). I took action after a lot of pressing from friends. I saw my doc and took the prescribed tablets. I left the job and things started to improve. I then met princess and things got better again. I still have bad days but I have developed coping strategies to help me cope. Men should not be scared to ask for help, and those who have never suffered a mental health issue should thank their lucky stars.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was diagnosed with severe depression 5 years ago, again caused by work. It got to the point where I could not bring myself to go through the company gates and I remember standing outside looking in, crying (grown men don't cry right?). I took action after a lot of pressing from friends. I saw my doc and took the prescribed tablets. I left the job and things started to improve. I then met princess and things got better again. I still have bad days but I have developed coping strategies to help me cope. Men should not be scared to ask for help, and those who have never suffered a mental health issue should thank their lucky stars."

I'm so glad you felt able to go and get help. I know plenty of men try to do the "macho" thing. Well it's not macho. We all need to look after our brains as well as our bodies!(ironic coming from me) lol. I'm glad you're on the mend. One day at a time!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After noticing on the thread about health I have decided to announce in my status that yes I had a breakdown 3 years ago, mainly caused by work but other issues as well.

I always had issues body mainly.

Yes I was on anti depressants for 3 months, yes I was off work for 2 months, I had counciling as well

Why this is a look at me thread, I just hope my openess encourages other men (but not just men), to reach out to some one gp, family, and seek help

It have it mostly under control but have my bad days and that's fine "

Fantastic post!

I too had a mini breakdown not so long ago due to a number of factors both past an present that accumulated to a massive weight.

I sought out a counsellor who i see every couple of weeks and who im seeing tonight and its the best thing i have ever done!

I have also listened to "The Chimp Paradox" which i found unbelievable in helping me understand how i react to situations and how i can handle them better!

I can honestly say im in the best place ive been for a long time!

Mental health shouldnt have the stigma it does. If you are having trouble with yours the beat thing you can do is accept it and seek out help from someone, it will only get better if you do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After noticing on the thread about health I have decided to announce in my status that yes I had a breakdown 3 years ago, mainly caused by work but other issues as well.

I always had issues body mainly.

Yes I was on anti depressants for 3 months, yes I was off work for 2 months, I had counciling as well

Why this is a look at me thread, I just hope my openess encourages other men (but not just men), to reach out to some one gp, family, and seek help

It have it mostly under control but have my bad days and that's fine

Fantastic post!

I too had a mini breakdown not so long ago due to a number of factors both past an present that accumulated to a massive weight.

I sought out a counsellor who i see every couple of weeks and who im seeing tonight and its the best thing i have ever done!

I have also listened to "The Chimp Paradox" which i found unbelievable in helping me understand how i react to situations and how i can handle them better!

I can honestly say im in the best place ive been for a long time!

Mental health shouldnt have the stigma it does. If you are having trouble with yours the beat thing you can do is accept it and seek out help from someone, it will only get better if you do. "

Glad your getting back on track. Counselling can be a wonderful release of emotions. I hope your road to normalilty keeps going.

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By *ikeC81 OP   Man
over a year ago

harrow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Experienced it,didnt like it,got tinnitus from the stress....blah blah

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By *rincesscaracoupleCouple
over a year ago

Saltburn


"It is interesting that 2 people have said they wouldn't meet me because of my status

I will change in a bit but I was doing to see why does effect your thoughts of me - being devils advocate

As you can see my veris clearly point out that I am a genuine flirty funny guy, but because I have put that as a staus it's an issue. Now I appreciate everyone is looking for certain types of people but why should a mental illness be treat any differently to say someone that has A curable illness"

It is very sad that people are put off by this, Mental illness has massive stigma attached. What do people think you are some kind of mad axeman? Those kind of people I would not wish to meet anyway. Keep it on your staus I say at least you will out the un educated people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is interesting that 2 people have said they wouldn't meet me because of my status

I will change in a bit but I was doing to see why does effect your thoughts of me - being devils advocate

As you can see my veris clearly point out that I am a genuine flirty funny guy, but because I have put that as a staus it's an issue. Now I appreciate everyone is looking for certain types of people but why should a mental illness be treat any differently to say someone that has A curable illness"

I hope this does not offend as its not my intention I'm just being honest

I have no issue at all with people having mental health issues, be them in the past or on going

It's not the fact they have mental health issues that puts me off it's the fact they feel the need to advertise it

No I do not feel people should be ashamed and keep it to themselves I just think that posting such a thing when there is no need to comes over as attention seeking

I have epilepsy I would not dream of putting on my status I have epilepsy if anybody has a problem with it don't have to meet me....it just seems odd to me

I tell people who need to know

And yes I am awear I've just told the whole forum but I felt I needed to in order to use my example

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After noticing on the thread about health I have decided to announce in my status that yes I had a breakdown 3 years ago, mainly caused by work but other issues as well.

I always had issues body mainly.

Yes I was on anti depressants for 3 months, yes I was off work for 2 months, I had counciling as well

Why this is a look at me thread, I just hope my openess encourages other men (but not just men), to reach out to some one gp, family, and seek help

It have it mostly under control but have my bad days and that's fine

Fantastic post!

I too had a mini breakdown not so long ago due to a number of factors both past an present that accumulated to a massive weight.

I sought out a counsellor who i see every couple of weeks and who im seeing tonight and its the best thing i have ever done!

I have also listened to "The Chimp Paradox" which i found unbelievable in helping me understand how i react to situations and how i can handle them better!

I can honestly say im in the best place ive been for a long time!

Mental health shouldnt have the stigma it does. If you are having trouble with yours the beat thing you can do is accept it and seek out help from someone, it will only get better if you do.

Glad your getting back on track. Counselling can be a wonderful release of emotions. I hope your road to normalilty keeps going. "

Thanks! Oh im on another track now to what i was, and im happy to be!

First counselling session i had was soooo draining emotionally and mentally but afterwards i felt as though a huge weight had been lifted an i could see the other side!

I noticed you often write down things you cant say, thats a good thing to do, as you say it can make you feel as though there's been a release and sometimes it can make you realise in the cold light of day that what ever it was really wasnt that bad and you can put it to bed, keep it going

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After noticing on the thread about health I have decided to announce in my status that yes I had a breakdown 3 years ago, mainly caused by work but other issues as well.

I always had issues body mainly.

Yes I was on anti depressants for 3 months, yes I was off work for 2 months, I had counciling as well

Why this is a look at me thread, I just hope my openess encourages other men (but not just men), to reach out to some one gp, family, and seek help

It have it mostly under control but have my bad days and that's fine

Fantastic post!

I too had a mini breakdown not so long ago due to a number of factors both past an present that accumulated to a massive weight.

I sought out a counsellor who i see every couple of weeks and who im seeing tonight and its the best thing i have ever done!

I have also listened to "The Chimp Paradox" which i found unbelievable in helping me understand how i react to situations and how i can handle them better!

I can honestly say im in the best place ive been for a long time!

Mental health shouldnt have the stigma it does. If you are having trouble with yours the beat thing you can do is accept it and seek out help from someone, it will only get better if you do.

Glad your getting back on track. Counselling can be a wonderful release of emotions. I hope your road to normalilty keeps going.

Thanks! Oh im on another track now to what i was, and im happy to be!

First counselling session i had was soooo draining emotionally and mentally but afterwards i felt as though a huge weight had been lifted an i could see the other side!

I noticed you often write down things you cant say, thats a good thing to do, as you say it can make you feel as though there's been a release and sometimes it can make you realise in the cold light of day that what ever it was really wasnt that bad and you can put it to bed, keep it going "

Yep. Writing things down no.matter how small can sometimes be such a huge emotional release as I said to someone earlier. I did that not so long ago. Afterwards I sat and blubbed like a baby! Seeing how I was feeling written down really brought it home! Keep going!!

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

If your refering to me as being one of the two people

Then i bloody well didnt say i wouldnt meet yo:

I would assume it would affect the meet some way.

Its.not common for people to put past illnesses up.

Now i get your point, you want to make a stand you want to get rid of the.stigma.

Ive put enough mental health threads up over the years to try and get rid of the stigma myself.

I just cannot see why anyone would put something in their status for potential meets that doesnt affect them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After noticing on the thread about health I have decided to announce in my status that yes I had a breakdown 3 years ago, mainly caused by work but other issues as well.

I always had issues body mainly.

Yes I was on anti depressants for 3 months, yes I was off work for 2 months, I had counciling as well

Why this is a look at me thread, I just hope my openess encourages other men (but not just men), to reach out to some one gp, family, and seek help

It have it mostly under control but have my bad days and that's fine

Fantastic post!

I too had a mini breakdown not so long ago due to a number of factors both past an present that accumulated to a massive weight.

I sought out a counsellor who i see every couple of weeks and who im seeing tonight and its the best thing i have ever done!

I have also listened to "The Chimp Paradox" which i found unbelievable in helping me understand how i react to situations and how i can handle them better!

I can honestly say im in the best place ive been for a long time!

Mental health shouldnt have the stigma it does. If you are having trouble with yours the beat thing you can do is accept it and seek out help from someone, it will only get better if you do.

Glad your getting back on track. Counselling can be a wonderful release of emotions. I hope your road to normalilty keeps going.

Thanks! Oh im on another track now to what i was, and im happy to be!

First counselling session i had was soooo draining emotionally and mentally but afterwards i felt as though a huge weight had been lifted an i could see the other side!

I noticed you often write down things you cant say, thats a good thing to do, as you say it can make you feel as though there's been a release and sometimes it can make you realise in the cold light of day that what ever it was really wasnt that bad and you can put it to bed, keep it going

Yep. Writing things down no.matter how small can sometimes be such a huge emotional release as I said to someone earlier. I did that not so long ago. Afterwards I sat and blubbed like a baby! Seeing how I was feeling written down really brought it home! Keep going!! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's good to see some people are starting to openly talk about mental health and the stigma behind the way males should just 'man up.' I have suffered for 13 years but finally I am starting to come out on the other side of it. I praise the likes of the invictus games for not only helping vets and family deal with physical impairments but this year raising alot of awareness around mental health. I'm glad to see previous posters are getting in to better places and I know each persons way of dealing with it is differant. All I can say to those who suffer quietly is now is the best possible time to reach out forbthe help you need to lead a more full and posative life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hit the wall a few years back.Friends around me just wanted to take me for a drink 'to cheer me up'

Finally went to the docs and got myself sorted.

It's not a weakness it's an illness.. glad your sorted OP

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had a breakdown also Christmas 14, I did some well off kilter stuff. Luckily my FWB stuck by me despite giving him some serious Shit, don't know what I would have done without him. It's good you have made this thread and that you are doing better now. XXX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Glad your ok op. X

There seems to be a sigma around mental health and men which I feel is wrong ..Their told to man up ,get on with it ,almost like it's a failure to admit they have feelings /problems and need help .m

There is definitely a stigma attached!

I too was off work with depression, took meds, saw counsellor etc. Whereas people ask how you are when you're back after a 'normal" illness, no one likes to when they know it's a mental health issue.

My counsellor said most of her clients were in my proffession!

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By *ikeC81 OP   Man
over a year ago

harrow


"If your refering to me as being one of the two people

Then i bloody well didnt say i wouldnt meet yo:

I would assume it would affect the meet some way.

Its.not common for people to put past illnesses up.

Now i get your point, you want to make a stand you want to get rid of the.stigma.

Ive put enough mental health threads up over the years to try and get rid of the stigma myself.

I just cannot see why anyone would put something in their status for potential meets that doesnt affect them"

I did read your post initially differently and have apologised for that - well I wanted to see what the outcome would be and would it have an effect on the Mike that people currently know .

A lot of swinging friends know as I am open about it, but I think mental health should be discussed more

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By *ikeC81 OP   Man
over a year ago

harrow

Wow this thread has really made me realise that at the time I was suffering in silence

It appears that the issues is more prevelant than I even guessed and that I hope this thread goes just a little way to helping people that are currently struggling or in the future

Ps if anyone is struggling and wants a ear my inbox is open

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over a year ago


"Ex military and blue light services, saw too many outwardly ok guys take their own lives in both services..

when we as a society break down the myth that being 'a man' has to be 'strong and get on with it' whatever is going on then maybe we will have a reduction in the far too high suicide rates for men in general..

"

I lost my brother, at 40, to suicide from depression and bi - polar disorder.. He kept it very much quiet, nobody, saw it coming.... He was such a proud man. apparently, at the inquest, his doctor, had advised him to keep a mood diary!! Well, that was sodding useful! Not... 8 weeks later he gassed himself. I would applauded anyone, to talk to someone.... MIND charity and support workers are wonderful...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fair play op, it's good to see you being open about it.

I've tried to be open about mine, I was broken two years ago and after struggling for some time got help. I'm still on anti depressants but I've come along way. I've been open with friends and family and have had a lot of support. I think there is an fear involved, certainly with men but when you do open up the people who really give a damn will be there for you.

Glad you're doing better op and long may it continue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ex military and blue light services, saw too many outwardly ok guys take their own lives in both services..

when we as a society break down the myth that being 'a man' has to be 'strong and get on with it' whatever is going on then maybe we will have a reduction in the far too high suicide rates for men in general..

I lost my brother, at 40, to suicide from depression and bi - polar disorder.. He kept it very much quiet, nobody, saw it coming.... He was such a proud man. apparently, at the inquest, his doctor, had advised him to keep a mood diary!! Well, that was sodding useful! Not... 8 weeks later he gassed himself. I would applauded anyone, to talk to someone.... MIND charity and support workers are wonderful... "

Sorry to hear that and hope your ok.

My Dr is at a loss what to do with me .I've been suffering with depression and general anxiety disorder for over 22years, attempted suicide at 13 years old .sent me to a counsellor who was basically rubbish and tried every anti depressant known to man .

Dr said I'm my own worse enemy as can't send me for more help as much as he'd like to as I'm not "ill"enough .went for assessment and as I hold down a job ,shower daily,etc..I can't get help .their only help me if I a tempt suicide again .

So bascily I get through it best I can taking one day at a time x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ex military and blue light services, saw too many outwardly ok guys take their own lives in both services..

when we as a society break down the myth that being 'a man' has to be 'strong and get on with it' whatever is going on then maybe we will have a reduction in the far too high suicide rates for men in general..

I lost my brother, at 40, to suicide from depression and bi - polar disorder.. He kept it very much quiet, nobody, saw it coming.... He was such a proud man. apparently, at the inquest, his doctor, had advised him to keep a mood diary!! Well, that was sodding useful! Not... 8 weeks later he gassed himself. I would applauded anyone, to talk to someone.... MIND charity and support workers are wonderful... "

I'm truly sorry for your loss. It's never easy. I had a cousin who committed suicide in April this year. He was 25 and he too had depression. His demons had been at their worse over the last 3 years. Everyone thought he was getting better. Again, it's that mask!!! He was getting loads of help as not in this country. I just wish people would be more receptive and open to mental health issues. The so called professionals too!

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By *ikeC81 OP   Man
over a year ago

harrow

Also they should be more open on the side effects of anti depressant drugs

It took about 4 weeks to feel any better at all

But then

mr floopy decided to visit big time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ex military and blue light services, saw too many outwardly ok guys take their own lives in both services..

when we as a society break down the myth that being 'a man' has to be 'strong and get on with it' whatever is going on then maybe we will have a reduction in the far too high suicide rates for men in general..

I lost my brother, at 40, to suicide from depression and bi - polar disorder.. He kept it very much quiet, nobody, saw it coming.... He was such a proud man. apparently, at the inquest, his doctor, had advised him to keep a mood diary!! Well, that was sodding useful! Not... 8 weeks later he gassed himself. I would applauded anyone, to talk to someone.... MIND charity and support workers are wonderful...

Sorry to hear that and hope your ok.

My Dr is at a loss what to do with me .I've been suffering with depression and general anxiety disorder for over 22years, attempted suicide at 13 years old .sent me to a counsellor who was basically rubbish and tried every anti depressant known to man .

Dr said I'm my own worse enemy as can't send me for more help as much as he'd like to as I'm not "ill"enough .went for assessment and as I hold down a job ,shower daily,etc..I can't get help .their only help me if I a tempt suicide again .

So bascily I get through it best I can taking one day at a time x"

I'm so sorry you're struggling. I think your docs attitude is awful. Is it at all possible that you could see someone else for another opinion? I too had a really crap doc. Just kept increasing my meds until I was wandering round like a zombie! Early this year I changed gp. Omg! Why I hadn't done it sooner. I'm a totally different person!! It's made so much difference. It may be worth trying. My inbox is open uf y want a chat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ex military and blue light services, saw too many outwardly ok guys take their own lives in both services..

when we as a society break down the myth that being 'a man' has to be 'strong and get on with it' whatever is going on then maybe we will have a reduction in the far too high suicide rates for men in general..

I lost my brother, at 40, to suicide from depression and bi - polar disorder.. He kept it very much quiet, nobody, saw it coming.... He was such a proud man. apparently, at the inquest, his doctor, had advised him to keep a mood diary!! Well, that was sodding useful! Not... 8 weeks later he gassed himself. I would applauded anyone, to talk to someone.... MIND charity and support workers are wonderful...

Sorry to hear that and hope your ok.

My Dr is at a loss what to do with me .I've been suffering with depression and general anxiety disorder for over 22years, attempted suicide at 13 years old .sent me to a counsellor who was basically rubbish and tried every anti depressant known to man .

Dr said I'm my own worse enemy as can't send me for more help as much as he'd like to as I'm not "ill"enough .went for assessment and as I hold down a job ,shower daily,etc..I can't get help .their only help me if I a tempt suicide again .

So bascily I get through it best I can taking one day at a time x

I'm so sorry you're struggling. I think your docs attitude is awful. Is it at all possible that you could see someone else for another opinion? I too had a really crap doc. Just kept increasing my meds until I was wandering round like a zombie! Early this year I changed gp. Omg! Why I hadn't done it sooner. I'm a totally different person!! It's made so much difference. It may be worth trying. My inbox is open uf y want a chat. "

Thank you ..trying every natural remedies /treatment/vitamin going x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ex military and blue light services, saw too many outwardly ok guys take their own lives in both services..

when we as a society break down the myth that being 'a man' has to be 'strong and get on with it' whatever is going on then maybe we will have a reduction in the far too high suicide rates for men in general..

I lost my brother, at 40, to suicide from depression and bi - polar disorder.. He kept it very much quiet, nobody, saw it coming.... He was such a proud man. apparently, at the inquest, his doctor, had advised him to keep a mood diary!! Well, that was sodding useful! Not... 8 weeks later he gassed himself. I would applauded anyone, to talk to someone.... MIND charity and support workers are wonderful...

Sorry to hear that and hope your ok.

My Dr is at a loss what to do with me .I've been suffering with depression and general anxiety disorder for over 22years, attempted suicide at 13 years old .sent me to a counsellor who was basically rubbish and tried every anti depressant known to man .

Dr said I'm my own worse enemy as can't send me for more help as much as he'd like to as I'm not "ill"enough .went for assessment and as I hold down a job ,shower daily,etc..I can't get help .their only help me if I a tempt suicide again .

So bascily I get through it best I can taking one day at a time x

I'm so sorry you're struggling. I think your docs attitude is awful. Is it at all possible that you could see someone else for another opinion? I too had a really crap doc. Just kept increasing my meds until I was wandering round like a zombie! Early this year I changed gp. Omg! Why I hadn't done it sooner. I'm a totally different person!! It's made so much difference. It may be worth trying. My inbox is open uf y want a chat.

Thank you ..trying every natural remedies /treatment/vitamin going x"

Are you on meds?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Was on meds but made the anxiety worse had a load of panic attacks .so now with Dr's agreement I've gone herbal route .tablets I get from Holland and barett don't solve it but keep the anxiety on a even level so I can cope x

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

Hi OP,

I have my own black dog, so my heart goes out to you.

I won't offer advice or opinion.

Just a snuggle.

Lisa xx

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over a year ago


"Was on meds but made the anxiety worse had a load of panic attacks .so now with Dr's agreement I've gone herbal route .tablets I get from Holland and barett don't solve it but keep the anxiety on a even level so I can cope x"

Hhhmmm really? I'd try a diff doc. You're obviously struggling. Sometimes although we don't want to take meds. I don't particularly. They're the only thing that help. I get that they may play havoc with anxiety. There must be some that can work. It's just a case of trial and error surely. Personally I'd try a new doc, but that's just me. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had a complete break down at the end of last year. It led me to being taken to a secure unit for my safety. It's been a long 6 months but I'm well on the road to recovery. Chin up and we'll done for talking about it.

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over a year ago


"I had a complete break down at the end of last year. It led me to being taken to a secure unit for my safety. It's been a long 6 months but I'm well on the road to recovery. Chin up and we'll done for talking about it. "

Well done for coming out the other side!! It's a long process but one day at a time. Baby steps as I say. Keep going. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Was on meds but made the anxiety worse had a load of panic attacks .so now with Dr's agreement I've gone herbal route .tablets I get from Holland and barett don't solve it but keep the anxiety on a even level so I can cope x

Hhhmmm really? I'd try a diff doc. You're obviously struggling. Sometimes although we don't want to take meds. I don't particularly. They're the only thing that help. I get that they may play havoc with anxiety. There must be some that can work. It's just a case of trial and error surely. Personally I'd try a new doc, but that's just me. X"

Will try if ever manage to get an appointment at the surgery x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I had a complete break down at the end of last year. It led me to being taken to a secure unit for my safety. It's been a long 6 months but I'm well on the road to recovery. Chin up and we'll done for talking about it.

Well done for coming out the other side!! It's a long process but one day at a time. Baby steps as I say. Keep going. X"

Thanks X

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over a year ago


"I had a complete break down at the end of last year. It led me to being taken to a secure unit for my safety. It's been a long 6 months but I'm well on the road to recovery. Chin up and we'll done for talking about it. "

You okay now ??x

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over a year ago


"Was on meds but made the anxiety worse had a load of panic attacks .so now with Dr's agreement I've gone herbal route .tablets I get from Holland and barett don't solve it but keep the anxiety on a even level so I can cope x

Hhhmmm really? I'd try a diff doc. You're obviously struggling. Sometimes although we don't want to take meds. I don't particularly. They're the only thing that help. I get that they may play havoc with anxiety. There must be some that can work. It's just a case of trial and error surely. Personally I'd try a new doc, but that's just me. X

Will try if ever manage to get an appointment at the surgery x"

That's a step in the right direction. Remember you're never alone. Like I said. My inbox is open. Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I had a complete break down at the end of last year. It led me to being taken to a secure unit for my safety. It's been a long 6 months but I'm well on the road to recovery. Chin up and we'll done for talking about it.

You okay now ??x"

I'm getting there. Feel good about my future.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Was on meds but made the anxiety worse had a load of panic attacks .so now with Dr's agreement I've gone herbal route .tablets I get from Holland and barett don't solve it but keep the anxiety on a even level so I can cope x

Hhhmmm really? I'd try a diff doc. You're obviously struggling. Sometimes although we don't want to take meds. I don't particularly. They're the only thing that help. I get that they may play havoc with anxiety. There must be some that can work. It's just a case of trial and error surely. Personally I'd try a new doc, but that's just me. X

Will try if ever manage to get an appointment at the surgery x

That's a step in the right direction. Remember you're never alone. Like I said. My inbox is open. Xx"

Thank you x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I had a complete break down at the end of last year. It led me to being taken to a secure unit for my safety. It's been a long 6 months but I'm well on the road to recovery. Chin up and we'll done for talking about it.

You okay now ??x

I'm getting there. Feel good about my future. "

Good x

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over a year ago


"Was on meds but made the anxiety worse had a load of panic attacks .so now with Dr's agreement I've gone herbal route .tablets I get from Holland and barett don't solve it but keep the anxiety on a even level so I can cope x

Hhhmmm really? I'd try a diff doc. You're obviously struggling. Sometimes although we don't want to take meds. I don't particularly. They're the only thing that help. I get that they may play havoc with anxiety. There must be some that can work. It's just a case of trial and error surely. Personally I'd try a new doc, but that's just me. X

Will try if ever manage to get an appointment at the surgery x

That's a step in the right direction. Remember you're never alone. Like I said. My inbox is open. Xx

Thank you x"

Is this Mr or ms I'm chatting to? Lol. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Was on meds but made the anxiety worse had a load of panic attacks .so now with Dr's agreement I've gone herbal route .tablets I get from Holland and barett don't solve it but keep the anxiety on a even level so I can cope x

Hhhmmm really? I'd try a diff doc. You're obviously struggling. Sometimes although we don't want to take meds. I don't particularly. They're the only thing that help. I get that they may play havoc with anxiety. There must be some that can work. It's just a case of trial and error surely. Personally I'd try a new doc, but that's just me. X

Will try if ever manage to get an appointment at the surgery x

That's a step in the right direction. Remember you're never alone. Like I said. My inbox is open. Xx

Thank you x

Is this Mr or ms I'm chatting to? Lol. X"

Miss ....I'm debx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Was on meds but made the anxiety worse had a load of panic attacks .so now with Dr's agreement I've gone herbal route .tablets I get from Holland and barett don't solve it but keep the anxiety on a even level so I can cope x

Hhhmmm really? I'd try a diff doc. You're obviously struggling. Sometimes although we don't want to take meds. I don't particularly. They're the only thing that help. I get that they may play havoc with anxiety. There must be some that can work. It's just a case of trial and error surely. Personally I'd try a new doc, but that's just me. X

Will try if ever manage to get an appointment at the surgery x

That's a step in the right direction. Remember you're never alone. Like I said. My inbox is open. Xx

Thank you x

Is this Mr or ms I'm chatting to? Lol. X

Miss ....I'm debx"

Hi deb. You spoken to Mr about how you feel? Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah but he's got enough on with his own health and family problems .

So used to dealing with stuff on own I just get on with it xx

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over a year ago


"Yeah but he's got enough on with his own health and family problems .

So used to dealing with stuff on own I just get on with it xx"

That's not good. I still think try and see doc about meds.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ex military and blue light services, saw too many outwardly ok guys take their own lives in both services..

when we as a society break down the myth that being 'a man' has to be 'strong and get on with it' whatever is going on then maybe we will have a reduction in the far too high suicide rates for men in general..

I lost my brother, at 40, to suicide from depression and bi - polar disorder.. He kept it very much quiet, nobody, saw it coming.... He was such a proud man. apparently, at the inquest, his doctor, had advised him to keep a mood diary!! Well, that was sodding useful! Not... 8 weeks later he gassed himself. I would applauded anyone, to talk to someone.... MIND charity and support workers are wonderful...

Sorry to hear that and hope your ok.

My Dr is at a loss what to do with me .I've been suffering with depression and general anxiety disorder for over 22years, attempted suicide at 13 years old .sent me to a counsellor who was basically rubbish and tried every anti depressant known to man .

Dr said I'm my own worse enemy as can't send me for more help as much as he'd like to as I'm not "ill"enough .went for assessment and as I hold down a job ,shower daily,etc..I can't get help .their only help me if I a tempt suicide again .

So bascily I get through it best I can taking one day at a time x"

Thanks.. It was 3 years ago... So, it's not, raw. all I can do is always support and be here, for anybody that is going through, been though or with someone that is suffering. That sounds crazy, advice, from a GP?? Suicide, isn't always a call, for help... it's the end. Jesus, my Bro, cancelled direct debits,sold furniture and put a sign up, on his bedroom door, for the fire fighters, because of the gas! If that isn't planning, hell knows what is...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm so sorry to hear that ,his bloody dr wants slapping for not seeing the signs and offering proper help .

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