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By *iddyandher OP   Couple
over a year ago

Benidorm

I could do with help from our fab freinds if possible. I've got a problem with my honda cbf 600. it went in for a mot and brake pads last week.went to collect it and it wouldn't start.battery flat.now fully charged.but will not start.anyone help.?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did you disconnect battery to charge ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I could do with help from our fab freinds if possible. I've got a problem with my honda cbf 600. it went in for a mot and brake pads last week.went to collect it and it wouldn't start.battery flat.now fully charged.but will not start.anyone help.?"

Only issue I've ever had is the terminals aren't properly tightened on a car though. Nothing worked though, completely dead, no ignition noise or lights when the key was inserted.

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

Is it turning over but just not starting or is it dead ?

Pop the spark plug out and see what condition it's in as a starting place

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What exactly is happening when you try to start? Lights off if possible or high beams off.

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By *alll88Man
over a year ago

Bangkok, Thailand

Without being a prick, check the engine kill-switch.

Other than that, if you did the basic checks it might be the main fuse which is very easy to replace.

But could well be other reasons

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By *iddyandher OP   Couple
over a year ago

Benidorm

thanks for the reply.I've charged the battery whilst on the bike. (I've always had it on trickle charge )I've not had a look at the spark plugs as I don't know how to get at them . I take it to bike garage usually, but as it won't start I can't get it there.I the bike turns over but just won't fire up.the headlight comes on auto.so no main beam on .I've looked at Google on a forum and someone thinks it may be the side stand causing the problem as there's a auto shut off on it ????but I'm now bike expert .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"thanks for the reply.I've charged the battery whilst on the bike. (I've always had it on trickle charge )I've not had a look at the spark plugs as I don't know how to get at them . I take it to bike garage usually, but as it won't start I can't get it there.I the bike turns over but just won't fire up.the headlight comes on auto.so no main beam on .I've looked at Google on a forum and someone thinks it may be the side stand causing the problem as there's a auto shut off on it ????but I'm now bike expert ."

Phone the aa.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He's a very nice man....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Try with the side stand up and pull the clutch in. Also hold the horn for about 5 seconds to see if it weakens. If it does its a battery issue. But hold it down for a few seconds

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By *ouble_The_DelightCouple
over a year ago

Wakefield

Not the stand if the bike is turning over.

Check the obvious first - petrol in and kill switch off. If it is turning over, is it spinning good and fast? If not, then the battery is the most likely culprit as not giving enough juice to spin it over.

Try those first, then get back to me if no joy. Fingers crossed.

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By *iddyandher OP   Couple
over a year ago

Benidorm

yes I've tried that .all to no avail. bike is in neutral, but when I tried to start it it goes forward as in gear ?????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not in neutral then!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Clutch out, ignition off.

Gear lever down until it moves freely

Then up one until the bike rolls - that way you KNOW it's in neutral

Then try again

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By *ibbleyanutsMan
over a year ago

Eastwood /Leigh on sea

Check main and ignition fuses..clutch lever and side stand switch wires for loose connections..engine kill switch.

Hope you find it.

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By *iddyandher OP   Couple
over a year ago

Benidorm

Green light on neutral. but still pulls forward ever so slightly.????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The battery may be dead. As in it won't hold enough charge to start the motor, regardless of how long you charge it. Check with voltmeter or try replacing the battery.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I used to strip down every bike I ever had (over 20) to its last nut & bolt, but electrics aren't my strong point unfortunately, I used to get ma mate to sort out any issues in that department

*courtesy of the useless information department*

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

But of a stupid one, is the fuel tap open and not closed.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Will it start with a bump?

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By *iddyandher OP   Couple
over a year ago

Benidorm

had a multimeter on and it's got 12v before starting up.but I've orde_ed a new one so I'll have to wait for that to arrive.but like I say it's got 12v when charged. ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Will you phone the fucking AA before you hurt yourself?

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

I'd be talking to the place that did the mot. It's a bit suspicious that it was running properly ? And then when you went to collect the bike it wouldn't run ?

Did you ride it there and it was ok ?

It has got fuel in it hasn't it ?

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By *kin BohnerMan
over a year ago

derby

Not petrol

Not in gear

Not side stand down

Not kill switch

Clutch in

Turning over ok

My limited knowledge would have me checking the plugs and if that fails then I'm calling the garage.

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By *iddyandher OP   Couple
over a year ago

Benidorm

thankyou all.will check plugs .and then hopefully new battery will be in place .so hopefully I can eliminate these and it may start.keep you all posted. thsnks again .

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By *arkstaffsMan
over a year ago

Rugeley

If it's spinning over ok I doubt it's the battery. My money would be on a faulty kill switch or the wiring to it. It can't be much if it was running ok beforehand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I could do with help from our fab freinds if possible. I've got a problem with my honda cbf 600. it went in for a mot and brake pads last week.went to collect it and it wouldn't start.battery flat.now fully charged.but will not start.anyone help.?"

Kill switch.

Or has its an older honda reg rec may be dead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"had a multimeter on and it's got 12v before starting up.but I've orde_ed a new one so I'll have to wait for that to arrive.but like I say it's got 12v when charged. ???"

What does it show when reved to 5krpm

It should read between 13-15v when the engine is being revd.

If not the rec is dead

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By *iddyandher OP   Couple
over a year ago

Benidorm

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By *iddyandher OP   Couple
over a year ago

Benidorm

yes was ok before it went to collect it.lucky for me I can see the garage from my house .so know it was running .just the battery was flat when I went to collect it.not fi_ed since.going to put a new battery on and just in the process of YouTubeing how to get the spark plugs out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Green light on neutral. but still pulls forward ever so slightly.????"

Your in a ghost neutral put in gear then take out again

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"yes was ok before it went to collect it.lucky for me I czn see the garage from my house .so know it was running .just the battery was flat when I went to collect it.not fi_ed since.going to put a new battery bonus and just in the process of YouTubeing how to get the spark plugs out."

Good luck, look at your college as sometimes they do basic bike maintenance courses in the evening although modern bikes are pretty reliable.

Try to get a Haynes manual

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Green light on neutral. but still pulls forward ever so slightly.????

Your in a ghost neutral put in gear then take out again "

Beat me to it..false neutral.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Green light on neutral. but still pulls forward ever so slightly.????

Your in a ghost neutral put in gear then take out again

Beat me to it..false neutral."

Told him that 58mins ago FFS!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"yes was ok before it went to collect it.lucky for me I can see the garage from my house .so know it was running .just the battery was flat when I went to collect it.not fi_ed since.going to put a new battery on and just in the process of YouTubeing how to get the spark plugs out."

Plug access under fuel tank

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Green light on neutral. but still pulls forward ever so slightly.????

Your in a ghost neutral put in gear then take out again

Beat me to it..false neutral.

Told him that 58mins ago FFS!"

Oops..so you did.

As the bike got a immobiliser on? Think they can be dodgy when the battery goes flat.

It's a bit technical for me..only ride old japs with kickstarts.

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

Has it got a spyball fitted (alarm)

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"Will you phone the fucking AA before you hurt yourself?"

Might well be sound advice

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By *iddyandher OP   Couple
over a year ago

Benidorm

thanks guys .will try all mentioned.just looking at how to remove the tank to access the plugs.going to try and check them first. while I wait for the battery.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll bet its a fuse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doesn't matter WHAT it actually is.

If it went in running - it COMES BACK running!

Get them to sort it and at no cost either.

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By *iddyandher OP   Couple
over a year ago

Benidorm

been a week now .no excuses but I think I ve left it to late now .thinking it was only a flat battery. (my own fault )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Doesn't matter WHAT it actually is.

If it went in running - it COMES BACK running!

Get them to sort it and at no cost either."

If it went in running and you have a reg/rec failure on the way in it may not fail before you get to the place but it may not work when you come to get it home, same with spark plugs or many other items which can instantly fail, you can't expect a garage to front the cost if something goes wrong that isn't their fault just because it is in their possession.

On another note, not sure where you are from OP but if we are close maybe we can lend a hand, we are both pretty good with bikes. P and M x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If he can see the garage from his house then there's something other than just a flat battery wrong and the garage should sort it.

There is no way any of my bikes would some back not running and the workshop not correcting it.

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By *iddyandher OP   Couple
over a year ago

Benidorm

you can't alway blame someone else .the issue now is how to repair my bike.?I'm going to look at the plugs.

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By *ubbykittenWoman
over a year ago

Kent

Sorry to interrupt gentleman. .. but this is all FASCINATING watching a group of guys trying to problem solve!

Sorry.... as you were! Naked this time though !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would give great odds that there is nothing wrong with the plugs.

was the engine flying over when you pressed start but just not starting, or was it struggling to turn over?

Green light does not mean nutural! it means the green light is on. if you can freely roll the bike backwards and forwards with the clutch out, then it is either in nutural or the chain has fallen off. From your comment that the bike lurch forward when you press start, it is in gear.

not trying to be rude, but if you are inept ASA bike mechanic DON'T take the tank off... there are more connections and breather tubes than you may think under there, I once bought a Triumph 900 for £2000 under market value as the previous owner had put the petrol pipe back on the wrong way round and kinked it. £20 for a new one and 30 minutes work and I sold it at a great profit!

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"Sorry to interrupt gentleman. .. but this is all FASCINATING watching a group of guys trying to problem solve!

Sorry.... as you were! Naked this time though ! "

I'm giving up bike fixing and I'm now going to stare at your breasts for no apparent reason

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry to interrupt gentleman. .. but this is all FASCINATING watching a group of guys trying to problem solve!

Sorry.... as you were! Naked this time though ! "

Given my advice, can I get dressed again now? the Asda staff are giving me funny looks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"you can't alway blame someone else .the issue now is how to repair my bike.?I'm going to look at the plugs. "

It's not about "blaming someone else" however you ride the bike in running and got it back dead.

Unless something has decided to fall off or melt then it's something they have done whilst in their possession.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why is there no "beating your head against a brick wall" emoticon?

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By *iquidatorMan
over a year ago

london

They probably knocked something while doing the MOT. Pretty weird the reg/rec and or spark plugs have gone at the same time, although possible.

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By *lutandhubbyCouple
over a year ago

west midlands

check if there is a spark on the plugs. if yes, its down to fuel. if no, maybe crank censer common problem on Chinese bikes. xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As the garage is in sight can't you get them to give you a diagnosis if you are Un mechanical (sounds like you are if you can't check the plugs)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi not read the full set of posts, but have you checked the kick stand some have a switch that cuts the engine if the stand is down some if stand is down and it's in gear. The dead man switch are a common fault too

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By *iddyandher OP   Couple
over a year ago

Benidorm

all post are welcome.I'm not a mechanic .I saw my bike start up and was rode inside the garage at my request after it was Moted. as it was starting to rain,and I was on my way to a job.and I didn't have time to take across the road to my home.the next day I collected my machine but the battery was dead.that at the time was not a problem as the battery was not 100% but as always been on trickle. I don't get mad are angry as this doesn't solve a problem. and I don't blame the garage,but the last post was a senseable question as all on here has been. to ask the garage for there help..once again I thank all for there imput

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

Have you tried buying a Yamaha?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No ones getting angry - just frustrated.

You've gone round in circles when the only direction you should've gone is straight over the road. To the garage. Who gave you it back not running!

Their issue - not yours as they've obviously left something on.

Keeping it on trickle doesn't mean the battery is duff -

We all do that as a precaution.

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By *ay BrowerMan
over a year ago

Oldham

If it's an old Honda it could have a reserve tank and if it's switched to reserve, the reserve tank could be empty so needs switching back to main tank

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By *ee340Man
over a year ago

Wallington


"If it's an old Honda it could have a reserve tank and if it's switched to reserve, the reserve tank could be empty so needs switching back to main tank "

If the reserve tank is empty , that means he's got no fuel ? And even if the bike was on reserve with a full tank it would not make a difference..... it will still supply fuel to the engine .

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By *ay BrowerMan
over a year ago

Oldham


"If it's an old Honda it could have a reserve tank and if it's switched to reserve, the reserve tank could be empty so needs switching back to main tank

If the reserve tank is empty , that means he's got no fuel ? And even if the bike was on reserve with a full tank it would not make a difference..... it will still supply fuel to the engine . "

Ok I'm no expert

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By *ee340Man
over a year ago

Wallington


"check if there is a spark on the plugs. if yes, its down to fuel. if no, maybe crank censer common problem on Chinese bikes. xxx "

How is a Honda a Chinese bike . Get your facts right ...

Honda's are the most reliable bikes on the market . Nuff said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it's an old Honda it could have a reserve tank and if it's switched to reserve, the reserve tank could be empty so needs switching back to main tank

If the reserve tank is empty , that means he's got no fuel ? And even if the bike was on reserve with a full tank it would not make a difference..... it will still supply fuel to the engine .

Ok I'm no expert "

Then why comment?

It's a CBF600 so there is no reserve tap - it's too new for a start.

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By *ee340Man
over a year ago

Wallington

If the bike turns over its not the regulator rectifier . What year is your bike is it carb or injection and you don't need to take the tank off to change plugs

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By *ee340Man
over a year ago

Wallington


"If it's an old Honda it could have a reserve tank and if it's switched to reserve, the reserve tank could be empty so needs switching back to main tank

If the reserve tank is empty , that means he's got no fuel ? And even if the bike was on reserve with a full tank it would not make a difference..... it will still supply fuel to the engine .

Ok I'm no expert

Then why comment?

It's a CBF600 so there is no reserve tap - it's too new for a start."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The bike should be carb if pre 2008, injection from 2008.

If its carb, it will have a choke leaver, you should not need to use it at current temperature, but if you do be careful not to flood the engine. Apparently they have a problem with flooding.

I still would put odds on your sparkplugs being fine, no answer from you about the speed your battery is turning the engine over, So sensible answers are hard to give.

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By *ay BrowerMan
over a year ago

Oldham


"If it's an old Honda it could have a reserve tank and if it's switched to reserve, the reserve tank could be empty so needs switching back to main tank

If the reserve tank is empty , that means he's got no fuel ? And even if the bike was on reserve with a full tank it would not make a difference..... it will still supply fuel to the engine .

Ok I'm no expert

Then why comment?

It's a CBF600 so there is no reserve tap - it's too new for a start."

Because that's what happened to mine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it's an old Honda it could have a reserve tank and if it's switched to reserve, the reserve tank could be empty so needs switching back to main tank

If the reserve tank is empty , that means he's got no fuel ? And even if the bike was on reserve with a full tank it would not make a difference..... it will still supply fuel to the engine .

Ok I'm no expert

Then why comment?

It's a CBF600 so there is no reserve tap - it's too new for a start.

Because that's what happened to mine "

Motorcycles do not have 2 seperate fuel tanks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it's an old Honda it could have a reserve tank and if it's switched to reserve, the reserve tank could be empty so needs switching back to main tank

If the reserve tank is empty , that means he's got no fuel ? And even if the bike was on reserve with a full tank it would not make a difference..... it will still supply fuel to the engine .

Ok I'm no expert

Then why comment?

It's a CBF600 so there is no reserve tap - it's too new for a start.

Because that's what happened to mine

Motorcycles do not have 2 seperate fuel tanks."

As Clem said - they don't have two tanks.

You may be a little confused over the age and model of the OP's bike...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I say again.


"Why is there no "beating your head against a brick wall" emoticon?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If the bike turns over its not the regulator rectifier . What year is your bike is it carb or injection and you don't need to take the tank off to change plugs "

Bike will turn over fine even with a fucked reg/rec as its only running off the battery at that point.

R/R is for turning the AC from the generator to DC and keeping the voltage in the right range to charge the battery.

Bike can even limp for a while with the rec dead as while the voltage can be too high or low for the battery it's still enough to keep the engine firing.

When mine went it was annoying as it killed the battery.

Sitting at junctions keeping the revs above 5k to avoid the bike cutting out drew some awkward stares lol

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By *ay BrowerMan
over a year ago

Oldham


"If it's an old Honda it could have a reserve tank and if it's switched to reserve, the reserve tank could be empty so needs switching back to main tank

If the reserve tank is empty , that means he's got no fuel ? And even if the bike was on reserve with a full tank it would not make a difference..... it will still supply fuel to the engine .

Ok I'm no expert

Then why comment?

It's a CBF600 so there is no reserve tap - it's too new for a start.

Because that's what happened to mine

Motorcycles do not have 2 seperate fuel tanks."

My CBR600 (pictu_ed) has a reserve tank.

It has no fuel warning light. It cuts out when then main tank is empty and there's a switch to engage the reserve tank. You get 30-40 miles on the reserve tank.

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By *ay BrowerMan
over a year ago

Oldham

http://www.bestbeginnermotorcycles.com/motorcycle-reserve-fuel-switch-guide

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lots of bikes have a fuel reserve tap, it's 2 inlet holes at different heights on one tube from one tank, So in reserve position it will use the petrol at the bottom of the tank. but there is not normally a sepperate fuel tank for reserve.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

FFS - perhaps go away and use your GoogleFu to get the right info.

They DO NOT have TWO tanks.

"Reserve" is gained by simply having one pick up pipe shorter.

The longer one is "main"

The shorter one is "reserve"

It's ONE tank/reservoir/whatever

When the fuel drops below the long pipe you "run out" and twist the knob to "reserve" which is just letting the rest flow through the shorter pipe.

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By *ay BrowerMan
over a year ago

Oldham


"FFS - perhaps go away and use your GoogleFu to get the right info.

They DO NOT have TWO tanks.

"Reserve" is gained by simply having one pick up pipe shorter.

The longer one is "main"

The shorter one is "reserve"

It's ONE tank/reservoir/whatever

When the fuel drops below the long pipe you "run out" and twist the knob to "reserve" which is just letting the rest flow through the shorter pipe."

Thanks for that. Like I've said. I'm no expert

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Point is a CBF doesn't have a fuel tap so it's a mute point.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll bet 50p it's the immobiliser if it's got one on..some immobilisers don't like flat batteries.

Code needed,or key re-chipped.

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By *all and ChainWoman
over a year ago

Truro


"

Motorcycles do not have 2 seperate fuel tanks."

Try telling that to anyone who has owned a shovel / pan / knuck....

True enough a honda 600 won't have, but just clarifying a point.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"Motorcycles do not have 2 seperate fuel tanks."

Harley pan heads have 2 tanks.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"

Motorcycles do not have 2 seperate fuel tanks.

Try telling that to anyone who has owned a shovel / pan / knuck....

True enough a honda 600 won't have, but just clarifying a point."

Ooo you beat me to it! Had not read this far down the thread. LoL

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

regardless of battery condition; have you tried bump starting the bike?

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By *kin BohnerMan
over a year ago

derby


"I'll bet 50p it's the immobiliser if it's got one on..some immobilisers don't like flat batteries.

Code needed,or key re-chipped."

Any news OP?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Motorcycles do not have 2 seperate fuel tanks.

Harley pan heads have 2 tanks. "

Which is why I said
"but there is not normally a sepperate fuel tank for reserve."
I suspect there are a number of pre 1980 bikes as well as the old HD's that used similar systems, although not 2 actual tanks the old XS1100 had 2 fuel taps, due in part to the 4 thirsty carbs, but also to the sides of the tank folding over the frame.

But none of that is helpful to the OP.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"yes I've tried that .all to no avail. bike is in neutral, but when I tried to start it it goes forward as in gear ?????"

Keep ign on, clutch in, push it down a hill and let the clutch out!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Motorcycles do not have 2 seperate fuel tanks.

Try telling that to anyone who has owned a shovel / pan / knuck....

True enough a honda 600 won't have, but just clarifying a point."

Thats a tractor though.

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By *iddyandher OP   Couple
over a year ago

Benidorm

hi to all.too late tonight and to ti_ed after a late work day.just read all of the later comment's. so just to clarify. it's a 2004 honda cbf600sa. it's got a full tank of fuel.as I always fill it up after use.I've tried bump starting.all to no avail. so I'm back at square 1.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Take it back to the bloody garage that broke it FFS!

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By *edonistsatplayCouple
over a year ago

Portsmouth, North Brittany, France

If it has an immobiliser/alarm, then these systems put a drain on the battery which over time, if you are not riding the bike on a regular basis hard enough to replace the 'lost' voltage then you need to get a 'trickle' charger and plug it in when the bike is not in use.

If you can get to a single spark plug, unscrew it (leftyloosey) and take it out. Connect it back into the plug cap and rest it on the clyinder head. Hit the starter and see if you have a nice fat blue spark.

If nothing is happening, then you have an electrical problem..(plugs, battery, ECU, connections, switches, fuses, etc) if is sparking like Blackpool prom then it's a fueling problem. Put the plug back it (don't over tighten) and hit the starter again.

If still nothing happens, take the plug out again and smell it, is it wet? does it smell of fuel?? That would point that the fuel is getting in there and something is breaking down under the load of turning the engine and providing enough ummmph for the sparks.

A process of ellimination I'm afraid, but you could always try a really big hammer.. it won't actually fix it, but you'll feel so much better!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Take it back to the bloody garage that broke it FFS!"

He wont you know. Or ask the AA....

"What's that? Trouble with your motorbike? Always consult a swingers site forum whenever you have complex electrical issues and no idea how to fix them "

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

You lot are so unhelpful.

Op there is a simple test that should fix it for good, take off the petrol cap and light a match.

I want you to use the light from the match to see if there is any fuel in the tank and if there is drop the match in and run.

#sorted

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By *iddyandher OP   Couple
over a year ago

Benidorm

I put my faith in you trusted lot...by the way if I drop my LED matches into the tank will it start.

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"I put my faith in you trusted lot...by the way if I drop my LED matches into the tank will it start."

?? it should do

Ps trusting this lot was a mistake ??

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By *iddyandher OP   Couple
over a year ago

Benidorm

mmmmm. seem there's a lot of what I'm lacking on here 'no not penis size' but AA number .

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

You still haven't said if the engine turns over briskly on the battery, or if it's a bit lazy, though if you've tried a bump start with enough speed and it didn't fire, then it's not the battery. Just to make sure, you could always try jump starting it off a car (you'll need small clips to fit the lugs on a bike battery though).

It could be a number of things, but the side stand switch and kill switch, usually stop the engine turning over as well as giving no spark, so I doubt it's those (though I don't know the 600, so it might be different).

I'd try connecting it to a car battery, it will also save the juice in the bike battery while you check things. Again, I don't know the 600, but never had to take a tank off to change the spark plugs - I think I'd avoid any bike where that was the case.

If you're getting no spark, then best bet is to wheel it back across the road to the garage.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"mmmmm. seem there's a lot of what I'm lacking on here 'no not penis size' but AA number ."

At last! Progress

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By *edMan
over a year ago

cambridgeshire

Without accusing garage of anything at all, I'd do as plenty have said and just talk it over with them. They wouldn't charge for a bit of advice, and they should want to look after you as a customer.

The summon won't be as good looking as in here, but it'll save you electrocuting or blowing yourself.

You never said if you did anything with the kill switch. Even if it's set to run, it's worth clicking it on and off a few times. The engine will turn over but not fire if it's set to off, and I've seen it in the past that the switch is just a bit 'dicky' and needs to be exercised. A bit of switch lubricant (that's perked a few ppl up...), is needed.

Bike maintenance is easy. If it moves and shouldn't, use duck tape.. if it doesn't move and should, use WD40...

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By *edMan
over a year ago

cambridgeshire


"Without accusing garage of anything at all, I'd do as plenty have said and just talk it over with them. They wouldn't charge for a bit of advice, and they should want to look after you as a customer.

The summon won't be as good looking as in here, but it'll save you electrocuting or blowing yourself.

You never said if you did anything with the kill switch. Even if it's set to run, it's worth clicking it on and off a few times. The engine will turn over but not fire if it's set to off, and I've seen it in the past that the switch is just a bit 'dicky' and needs to be exercised. A bit of switch lubricant (that's perked a few ppl up...), is needed.

Bike maintenance is easy. If it moves and shouldn't, use duck tape.. if it doesn't move and should, use WD40... "

Change summon to women.. lol

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By *edMan
over a year ago

cambridgeshire

Could the OP let us all know he is still alive?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Could the OP let us all know he is still alive? "

Yes please, don't want another sleepless night.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oi...OP...is it running yet.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

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By *iddyandher OP   Couple
over a year ago

Benidorm

bike running !!! .located the 4 spark plugs.hidden from access by the fuel tank.thank you all for your very helpful comments in helping me (not) to find out how I can locate them. anyone who is having trouble with there honda cbf 600sa please dont ask in the forum .by the way yes you have to remove the fuel tank .then access is limited.,but achieveable.my problem was clogged up spark plugs, ( which was not caused by the garage as some said.)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It would've been caused by you turning it over constantly without it firing!

There was obviously something odd between it going in and you picking g it up

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By *iddyandher OP   Couple
over a year ago

Benidorm

by the way as I've wrote this that must mean I didn't do as someone suggested,that was to have a look at the full tank of fuel with a match.

p.s I didn't know that all of you have bicycles .because you maintenance skills are out of date.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"by the way as I've wrote this that must mean I didn't do as someone suggested,that was to have a look at the full tank of fuel with a match.

p.s I didn't know that all of you have bicycles .because you maintenance skills are out of date."

Well who'd have thought. Asking for advice about motorcycle maintenance on a swinging website didn't produce results...... Should have asked the fucking AA!

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

pointless when you're not a member of the fucking AA as the op pointed out earlier

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"bike running !!! .located the 4 spark plugs.hidden from access by the fuel tank.thank you all for your very helpful comments in helping me (not) to find out how I can locate them. anyone who is having trouble with there honda cbf 600sa please dont ask in the forum .by the way yes you have to remove the fuel tank .then access is limited.,but achieveable.my problem was clogged up spark plugs, ( which was not caused by the garage as some said.) "

At least it's up n running now..have fun on it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"pointless when you're not a member of the fucking AA as the op pointed out earlier "

Seriously, i don't go to honda internet forums and ask why single guys have trouble swinging, then spit my dummy when they can't help.

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By *erdita Von TeaseWoman
over a year ago

nottingham


"by the way as I've wrote this that must mean I didn't do as someone suggested,that was to have a look at the full tank of fuel with a match.

p.s I didn't know that all of you have bicycles .because you maintenance skills are out of date."

As are your charm skills

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By *iddyandher OP   Couple
over a year ago

Benidorm

yes rang alcohol annomous they only do wagons' (that's people who's fell of them )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So were the plugs d up?

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago


"pointless when you're not a member of the fucking AA as the op pointed out earlier

Seriously, i don't go to honda internet forums and ask why single guys have trouble swinging, then spit my dummy when they can't help."

no, you spit your dummy on an open forum on a swingers site when you suggest calling the AA even though the OP isn't a member .... anyhow, he got it sorted himself with advice on here which wasn't of the piss taking variety so you can relax again .... that vein on your temple is begining to twitch

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"pointless when you're not a member of the fucking AA as the op pointed out earlier

Seriously, i don't go to honda internet forums and ask why single guys have trouble swinging, then spit my dummy when they can't help.

no, you spit your dummy on an open forum on a swingers site when you suggest calling the AA even though the OP isn't a member .... anyhow, he got it sorted himself with advice on here which wasn't of the piss taking variety so you can relax again .... that vein on your temple is begining to twitch"

Telling someone who clearly knows nothing to consult someone who knows something seemed the correct way forward. Spark plugs under the the fuel tank eh.....who knew? However i am fascinated how a modern bike fouls it's plugs.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago


"pointless when you're not a member of the fucking AA as the op pointed out earlier

Seriously, i don't go to honda internet forums and ask why single guys have trouble swinging, then spit my dummy when they can't help.

no, you spit your dummy on an open forum on a swingers site when you suggest calling the AA even though the OP isn't a member .... anyhow, he got it sorted himself with advice on here which wasn't of the piss taking variety so you can relax again .... that vein on your temple is begining to twitch

Telling someone who clearly knows nothing to consult someone who knows something seemed the correct way forward. Spark plugs under the the fuel tank eh.....who knew? However i am fascinated how a modern bike fouls it's plugs."

over fuelling, timing out, shit petrol, sticking choke etc ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"pointless when you're not a member of the fucking AA as the op pointed out earlier

Seriously, i don't go to honda internet forums and ask why single guys have trouble swinging, then spit my dummy when they can't help.

no, you spit your dummy on an open forum on a swingers site when you suggest calling the AA even though the OP isn't a member .... anyhow, he got it sorted himself with advice on here which wasn't of the piss taking variety so you can relax again .... that vein on your temple is begining to twitch

Telling someone who clearly knows nothing to consult someone who knows something seemed the correct way forward. Spark plugs under the the fuel tank eh.....who knew? However i am fascinated how a modern bike fouls it's plugs.

over fuelling, timing out, shit petrol, sticking choke etc .... "

It's injected isn't it?

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

if it's post 2008 yes .... carb if it's pre 2008 i think ..... but i don't remember which version being mentioned in the thread and i can't be bothe_ed looking .... but the principle of the causes are still the same for both

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

valve stem oil seals weeping, slightly worn rings, sco_ed barrel etc ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if it's post 2008 yes .... carb if it's pre 2008 i think ..... but i don't remember which version being mentioned in the thread and i can't be bothe_ed looking .... but the principle of the causes are still the same for both"

Apart from 2-strokes never had any plug trouble on my bikes. I prescribe more riding, longer distances.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"valve stem oil seals weeping, slightly worn rings, sco_ed barrel etc ... "

If it is carb, do you think he knows how to use his choke?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"by the way as I've wrote this that must mean I didn't do as someone suggested,that was to have a look at the full tank of fuel with a match.

p.s I didn't know that all of you have bicycles .because you maintenance skills are out of date."

I gave up trying to help when you refused to answer my question, remote diagnostics is hard enough but when you don't get information it's a pointless exercise.

I agree with Clem, a modern bike with a good ecu will not foul the plugs. one of my bikes has 67,000 on its original plugs and they are still perfect, plan to keep using them as long as possible. I suspect the engine will be out for a cam chain change before the plugs burn out.

But pleased to hear it is fixed, did you also use the new battery you orde_ed?

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By *iddyandher OP   Couple
over a year ago

Benidorm

thankyou all for intreast.can I say all points that was asked was given in previous post.you should go back up the list and you can check .on more than one occasion I explained that it is a 2004 model. I was asking advice how to locate the the spark plugs as being a woman and not being technical minded I am surprised I sorted it out without male logic as that is in your pants.!!!!so thanks to all the senseable points of advice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"thankyou all for intreast.can I say all points that was asked was given in previous post.you should go back up the list and you can check .on more than one occasion I explained that it is a 2004 model. I was asking advice how to locate the the spark plugs as being a woman and not being technical minded I am surprised I sorted it out without male logic as that is in your pants.!!!!so thanks to all the senseable points of advice."

Time to ride it hard! The whether is purrrfect

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

Several people including myself, said to check for a spark at your plugs. It wasn't apparent that the main issue was you not being able to access the plugs - a quick internet search would have revealed how to get access - never having had to do a cbr 600 plugs, I did say I wouldn't know if the tank has to come off to get at them - not usually a big job, but a pain if you have to do it to change/check plugs, then it's a bike I'll avoid owning.

Once removed, it's pretty obvious from the appearance of the plugs if they're choked up and whilst out, always worth gapping them - if you put new in, gap them first as they won't necessarily have the optimum gap for your engine.

As others have said, if your plugs are getting clogged, then it suggests over fuelling or oil burning. Over use of the choke and not opening it again soon enough, with lots of short journeys can do that, always open the choke fully as soon as the bike will idle steadily without it.

But glad it's fixed - ride safe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Several people including myself, said to check for a spark at your plugs. It wasn't apparent that the main issue was you not being able to access the plugs - a quick internet search would have revealed how to get access - never having had to do a cbr 600 plugs, I did say I wouldn't know if the tank has to come off to get at them - not usually a big job, but a pain if you have to do it to change/check plugs, then it's a bike I'll avoid owning.

Once removed, it's pretty obvious from the appearance of the plugs if they're choked up and whilst out, always worth gapping them - if you put new in, gap them first as they won't necessarily have the optimum gap for your engine.

As others have said, if your plugs are getting clogged, then it suggests over fuelling or oil burning. Over use of the choke and not opening it again soon enough, with lots of short journeys can do that, always open the choke fully as soon as the bike will idle steadily without it.

But glad it's fixed - ride safe

"

Norally its the front 2 bolts then theres a hinge at the back of the tank on hondas.

2 bolts lift tank prop up with the suspension C spanner

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"bike running !!! .located the 4 spark plugs.hidden from access by the fuel tank.thank you all for your very helpful comments in helping me (not) to find out how I can locate them. anyone who is having trouble with there honda cbf 600sa please dont ask in the forum .by the way yes you have to remove the fuel tank .then access is limited.,but achieveable.my problem was clogged up spark plugs, ( which was not caused by the garage as some said.) "

Haynes manual is what you want

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh but looking st the honda owners manual for the 04 cbf600sa you dont remove the tank to get to the plugs.

Youre meant to just drop the radiator to get access.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seriously sexond result on google is a pdf of your owenrs manual.

Why dont you have the owners manual anyway?

Its covers all basic servicing like plugs etc should be under your seet

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