FabSwingers.com forum: Petrol Price Slash

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just got this on Facebook ....

Petrol price slash..........make the joke on them!!!!!

Lets force the government to lower the taxation on fuel at fill up stations. in theory to lower their prices, please just make sure you don't visit a fuel station on April the 1st, just simply you ensure that you have fuel in your car on that day so you do not have to fill/top up. this will create a massive back log and loss of profit for just one day will make them think that if we threaten to do this often we can make a difference PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND MAKE THE JOKE (APRIL 1ST) ON THEM! NEWS HAS JUST REPORTED PETROL COULD GO UP TO AS MUCH AS £2 PER LITRE CAN ANYONE AFFORD THAT???................. PLEASE HELP!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Sorry but it won't make a jot of difference. One day is nothing in the world of.petrol sales!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This was going round a couple of yrs ago and one day of people not fillung up or topping up isnt going to make any differance,people are going to need to buy fuel sooner or later x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if you fill up "before" 1st April - then they already have your money !!.....you will in effect save them money on electric at the pumps

.....dont see any logic in the idea at all - sorry

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By *ouple1234Couple
over a year ago

BELFAST UK

if everyone was to fill up and not pay now that would be a good joke the police anol couldnt cope that would make the goverment look twice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can't afford not to top up with petrol I need to go to work sadly

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"if you fill up "before" 1st April - then they already have your money !!.....you will in effect save them money on electric at the pumps

.....dont see any logic in the idea at all - sorry"

,lol true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The bigger problem is the cost of the raw product (oil), which is used in a wide range of industrial applications (fertiliser, plastics etc etc). So unless you go into stasis and not consume anything you are pretty much buggered.

A more effective thing to do would be to say

"On April the 1st stick it to the government and lower demand for oil and so the cost to all of us. To do this murder at least one citizen over 16 on April 1st."

(I kid of course!)

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

i'm doing it,it may not make a difference,but it is some form of protest.better than none.

we whinge,and moan,at work,at the supermarket,in our houses,anywhere anyone will listen.

then we listen to them whinge,and moan,back at us about the same things.

then as soon as anybody,suggests any kind of minor protest.

we whinge,and moan,it wont work.they dont care,it wont make a difference.

us brits really are,a bunch of spineless,apathetic gits.

who deserve all the shit they heap on us.

prepare for more.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

So boycotting petrol stations on one day of the year.....but happy to fill up the next day and every other day of the year.....punishes the government or sends them a message how?

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"i'm doing it,it may not make a difference,but it is some form of protest."

It would only get noticed as a protest if you went in every day/week at the same time and then didn't on one of those periods! The attendant would likely know you hadn't been, but you would have to tell him it was a protest!

Besides, why hurt the petrol station? They make pennies per litre and that is why most of them are attached to other businesses. If you want to hurt a store of some kind, make it one of the big supermarkets who could drop their prices for everyone who shops with them, but they don't...

Nah, protesting just will not work unless we all sign away our rights to the things that taxation buys.

Like the £1 per litre thing on Facebook..Loads seem to be signing up to it, but... Sorry, those days have gone.... Whoosh...

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By *rumalexMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

"i'm doing it,it may not make a difference,but it is some form of protest.better than none.

we whinge,and moan,at work,at the supermarket,in our houses,anywhere anyone will listen.

then we listen to them whinge,and moan,back at us about the same things.

then as soon as anybody,suggests any kind of minor protest.

we whinge,and moan,it wont work.they dont care,it wont make a difference.

us brits really are,a bunch of spineless,apathetic gits.

who deserve all the shit they heap on us.

prepare for more.

the only protest that would hurt is to stop buying fuel full stop until it hits the govrnments pocket, how many people will agree to do that?... not many i would imagine

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

"So boycotting petrol stations on one day of the year.....but happy to fill up the next day and every other day of the year.....punishes the government or sends them a message how?"

it doesnt punish anybody,it just lets them know,you'r a wee bit upset,

but you're probably right jane.

lets do absolutely nothing again.

it'll probably go away.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

The French protest all the time about fuel prices.....last week Unleaded in Brittany was 1.60 Euros (£1.38) average.

Or put simply more expensive than the UK last week.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So boycotting petrol stations on one day of the year.....but happy to fill up the next day and every other day of the year.....punishes the government or sends them a message how?

it doesnt punish anybody,it just lets them know,you'r a wee bit upset,

but you're probably right jane.

lets do absolutely nothing again.

it'll probably go away."

It wont let them know anything at all,your personal petrol buying habits are of no concern to anyone but yourself.If you really want to make a difference get rid of your car and walk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll ask again.

If fuel is to be cheaper, something else has to be dearer.

What will people pay more for in order to get cheaper petrol?

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

"The French protest all the time about fuel prices.....last week Unleaded in Brittany was 1.60 Euros (£1.38) average.

Or put simply more expensive than the UK last week.

yep the french protest,about a lot of things.

you'll know better than me,but i believe they win,as many as they lose.

as you say,you can buy you'r petrol,the day before,or the day after.

so what harm will it do,not to buy it on april the 1st.???

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"The French protest all the time about fuel prices.....last week Unleaded in Brittany was 1.60 Euros (£1.38) average.

Or put simply more expensive than the UK last week.

yep the french protest,about a lot of things.

you'll know better than me,but i believe they win,as many as they lose.

as you say,you can buy you'r petrol,the day before,or the day after.

so what harm will it do,not to buy it on april the 1st.???"

But what message will it send to the government?

That we are sheep.....and we don't understand it will make no difference?

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"I'll ask again.

If fuel is to be cheaper, something else has to be dearer.

What will people pay more for in order to get cheaper petrol?"

Exactly.....a penny lost on fuel duty means a fortune slashed off of another government department budget

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

"I'll ask again.

If fuel is to be cheaper, something else has to be dearer.

What will people pay more for in order to get cheaper petrol?"

gold,it doesnt get me to work,and people will still buy it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

End of the day...

if every petrol forecourt in the country made no sales on one day such as suggested they would indeed recoup the following day.

These huge companies don't work on daily profit, they work on end of year figures... by the end of the financial year one day would make absolutly no difference whatsoever... because those who avoid on one day will fill up in the following days.

Shame there isn;t a simple solition to this, but unfortunatly for those of us who do drive are at the mercy of pump prices.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

"I'll ask again.

If fuel is to be cheaper, something else has to be dearer.

What will people pay more for in order to get cheaper petrol?

Exactly.....a penny lost on fuel duty means a fortune slashed off of another government department budget"

i wish i could say,i was shocked by this attitude,but i'm not.

it's why they shit on us,because they can.

unless someone predicted,the rapid rise in oil prices.the extra tax raised,is an unexpected bonus.

not included in the governments sums.so if it's unexpected bonus.why would they have to cut expenditure elsewhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe we could try not to rely so much on cars,

Most people need a car to get to work,but then travel alone or in pairs but there are usually 4 seats in a car,

Try car pooling and split the cost between you,

How many car drivers drive to the local shop when it's only a 5 minute walk?

Yes there are certain times when we need to use a car but i bet every single one of us could use it less than we are doing at the moment.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

There is only one thing this government understands, it is the thing the Tories despise and equally fear the most.

People, angry people, taking to the streets.

It can't be hidden away or hushed up, like a pointless petrol forcourt one day boycott will be, it will make all the news programmes and front pages of the papers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

fuck it - stick some polish plates on with laccy bands and drive off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is only one thing this government understands, it is the thing the Tories despise and equally fear the most.

People, angry people, taking to the streets.

It can't be hidden away or hushed up, like a pointless petrol forcourt one day boycott will be, it will make all the news programmes and front pages of the papers."

Tell that to the students,they took to the streets and got nothing for their efforts.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

"There is only one thing this government understands, it is the thing the Tories despise and equally fear the most.

People, angry people, taking to the streets.

It can't be hidden away or hushed up, like a pointless petrol forcourt one day boycott will be, it will make all the news programmes and front pages of the papers."

try it for one day jane.

ffs who's not going to listen to you.

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"There is only one thing this government understands, it is the thing the Tories despise and equally fear the most.

People, angry people, taking to the streets.

It can't be hidden away or hushed up, like a pointless petrol forcourt one day boycott will be, it will make all the news programmes and front pages of the papers.

try it for one day jane.

ffs who's not going to listen to you.

Tell ya what, I'll do it tomorrow! (filled up today!

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But again I ask, why harm the garage owners???

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

While I don't always agree with state policy/rules/regulations/taxation etc. etc. its all very well moaning but could any of us do any better?

This country needs money like never before... you are in charge of the purse, its empty but the price of a barrel of oil has gone up. This means you will get a major influx of extra cash via taxation. Will you take the money or not?

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By *Young123Man
over a year ago

Crewe

"But what message will it send to the government?

I'd say none as it's unlikely that they get the duty/money sent in daily from all the garages, it'll probably be done as a lump sum either monthly or quarterly. So if you buy your fuel the next day it'll still be in the same payment and thus the same overall amount in their pocket and on the spreadsheets.

Just my 2p worth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I say "sod " the petrol and buy a horse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" While I don't always agree with state policy/rules/regulations/taxation etc. etc. its all very well moaning but could any of us do any better?"

Than Osborne & Co? Sure. No problem.

"This country needs money like never before... you are in charge of the purse, its empty but the price of a barrel of oil has gone up. This means you will get a major influx of extra cash via taxation. Will you take the money or not? "

That's predicated on a belief in the BIG TORY LIE.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

we need the money,but those paying the most.were responsible the least.

those paying the least,were most responsible.

its only one day,why does it matter,give it a go.

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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

The money has to be raised and if it isn't coming from Mr Diamond who got a 6.5 million bonus (and his pals) then the gov should be honest and tax everyone. Bashing the motorist does not tax on the ability to pay, it hits everyone and often the poorest hurt the most as all good and services go up!

The best the UK can do is for all of us to give up our cars till the costs come down. Britain PLC would stop overnight as we wouldn't be able to all get to work, tax revenues stop and the world would be a happier place

Of course car use for swinging meets would be allowed

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

"There is only one thing this government understands, it is the thing the Tories despise and equally fear the most.

People, angry people, taking to the streets.

It can't be hidden away or hushed up, like a pointless petrol forcourt one day boycott will be, it will make all the news programmes and front pages of the papers.

Tell that to the students,they took to the streets and got nothing for their efforts."

oh i wouldnt say that ,its not the stuff you see its the stuff underneath that counts ,they got quite a few consessions but it has made the lib mps irritable ,call it using up one of the coalition lives ,it may have sowed the seeds of rebellion for the summer,especially when they lose the AV vote..

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"There is only one thing this government understands, it is the thing the Tories despise and equally fear the most.

People, angry people, taking to the streets.

It can't be hidden away or hushed up, like a pointless petrol forcourt one day boycott will be, it will make all the news programmes and front pages of the papers.

Tell that to the students,they took to the streets and got nothing for their efforts."

Three demonstrations by students, already concessions planned for students from poorer families....today sees a demonstration from students....bolstered by trade union members in Sheffield.

The Tories have never handled demonstrations very well, the Lib Dems (at grass root level) are panicking so much that Nick Clegg has had to publically call on the party to hold it's nerve....after less than a year in power.

I would suggest that as regards street demonstrations this government hasn't seen anything yet.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

"I'll ask again.

If fuel is to be cheaper, something else has to be dearer.

What will people pay more for in order to get cheaper petrol?

Exactly.....a penny lost on fuel duty means a fortune slashed off of another government department budget

i wish i could say,i was shocked by this attitude,but i'm not.

it's why they shit on us,because they can.

unless someone predicted,the rapid rise in oil prices.the extra tax raised,is an unexpected bonus.

not included in the governments sums.so if it's unexpected bonus.why would they have to cut expenditure elsewhere.

still waiting on an answer,to this one.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"I'll ask again.

If fuel is to be cheaper, something else has to be dearer.

What will people pay more for in order to get cheaper petrol?

Exactly.....a penny lost on fuel duty means a fortune slashed off of another government department budget

i wish i could say,i was shocked by this attitude,but i'm not.

it's why they shit on us,because they can.

unless someone predicted,the rapid rise in oil prices.the extra tax raised,is an unexpected bonus.

not included in the governments sums.so if it's unexpected bonus.why would they have to cut expenditure elsewhere.

still waiting on an answer,to this one."

Because they are making the most of the deficit, there was an unexpected boost to tax income in January according to the Treasury....seen any evidence of that being used to reduce planned cuts?

The recession and deficit played right into the Tories hands, not a day goes by when you don't hear a Tory or a Lib Dem going on about the mess they inherited....they will continue to use that excuse all the time they are selling off the family silver that Thatcher never got around to flogging.

"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hasn't it occured to anyone that the real reason prices are going up and up may be because we are being actively discouraged from filling up and using petrol (oil), and that's because the Earth's oil reserves are not as plentiful as we're led to believe.

Couple that with a lack of a reliable alternative and it doesn't take a genius to work out that pretty soon only those in desperate need for oil-based products will be allowed to buy it.

Saudi Arabia are suspected of inflating their true reserve levels and that the oil fields of the M. East are well past the 'half empty' stage.

It takes millions of years for the Earth to produce oil, yet we've managed to deplete the oil lakes this planet has in just over 100 years by such a degree that it makes one wonder what now fills the vacuum of space that they once filled just a few miles below our feet.

A nice lot of space for the Earth's tectonic plates to move into perhaps?

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By *leasureDomeMan
over a year ago

all over the place

"I'll ask again.

If fuel is to be cheaper, something else has to be dearer.

What will people pay more for in order to get cheaper petrol?

Exactly.....a penny lost on fuel duty means a fortune slashed off of another government department budget

i wish i could say,i was shocked by this attitude,but i'm not.

it's why they shit on us,because they can.

unless someone predicted,the rapid rise in oil prices.the extra tax raised,is an unexpected bonus.

not included in the governments sums.so if it's unexpected bonus.why would they have to cut expenditure elsewhere.

still waiting on an answer,to this one."

i agree with you ,also its time for another round of windfall taxes on the petro industry i reckon that along with a SENSIBLE policy with the banks ,cancelling tridents 100 billion quid bill (over 10 years) should begin to get us back to our normal level of borrowing given the 650 billion overdraft we have and have always had in relative terms ,factor in the 200 billion in capital assets we now have in the banks and actually compared to others despite what the govt says we are not in too bad shape given the world wide finacial meltdown caused by the greedy banks .

if we were worse off our capital bond charges would be higher than the 3.7% they are at the moment.One question i have is given the 100 billion quid less borrowing than expected after labours demise why is there still a need to throw 500,000 people on the dole and reduce public services to the vunerable .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" While I don't always agree with state policy/rules/regulations/taxation etc. etc. its all very well moaning but could any of us do any better?

Than Osborne & Co? Sure. No problem.

That's predicated on a belief in the BIG TORY LIE."

It would be nice if you once admitted that petrol prices rose under Labour too.

It would also be nice if you admitted - just once - that Labour's plans to spend, spend, and keep spending was fundamentally flawed.

I won't hold my breath though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'll ask again.

If fuel is to be cheaper, something else has to be dearer.

What will people pay more for in order to get cheaper petrol?

Exactly.....a penny lost on fuel duty means a fortune slashed off of another government department budget

i wish i could say,i was shocked by this attitude,but i'm not.

it's why they shit on us,because they can.

unless someone predicted,the rapid rise in oil prices.the extra tax raised,is an unexpected bonus.

not included in the governments sums.so if it's unexpected bonus.why would they have to cut expenditure elsewhere.

still waiting on an answer,to this one."

You expect an answer on a Friday night? Friday, as WoS doggers know, is ******* and all bets are off - even in a light flurry of snow.

Why would Osborne cut spending in other departments in the face of an unexpected increase in Fuel Duty (I take it you mean Fuel Duty and not Petroleum Revenue Tax?).

At it's simplest, thats what Osborne does - cut, cut and then cut some more. It's in his DNA. It's been at the core of his utterances every time he opens his mouth.

He absolutely hates the idea of ordinary people have a few extra coppers in their pocket and will do whatever he can to avoid that situation arising.

So - sorry for the delay but first things first, eh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" While I don't always agree with state policy/rules/regulations/taxation etc. etc. its all very well moaning but could any of us do any better?

Than Osborne & Co? Sure. No problem.

That's predicated on a belief in the BIG TORY LIE.

It would be nice if you once admitted that petrol prices rose under Labour too. "

I don't recall ever suggesting that it hasn't. I can only recall a very few occasions when fuel prices have gone down - mostly they go up REGARDLESS of the complexion of the government.

What the Tories did which hiked fuel prices was to increase the VAT element of the price at the pump.

" It would also be nice if you admitted - just once - that Labour's plans to spend, spend, and keep spending was fundamentally flawed.

I won't hold my breath though.

Labour's natural instinct is to spend more than the Tories - nobody has ever made an secret of that. That's all about the kind of society you wish to live in and see around you.

Given the world financial situation it's clear that increased expenditure in some areas simply isn't going to be possible.

The argument has never been about cuts versus no cuts; it's about the depth of the cuts and the speed at which they'll be applied.

The Tories have front-loaded the cuts in the hope they'll be out of the way and forgotten by 2015. The people won't forget.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hasn't it occured to anyone that the real reason prices are going up and up may be because we are being actively discouraged from filling up and using petrol (oil), and that's because the Earth's oil reserves are not as plentiful as we're led to believe.

Couple that with a lack of a reliable alternative and it doesn't take a genius to work out that pretty soon only those in desperate need for oil-based products will be allowed to buy it.

Saudi Arabia are suspected of inflating their true reserve levels and that the oil fields of the M. East are well past the 'half empty' stage.

A nice lot of space for the Earth's tectonic plates to move into perhaps?"

I have a friend who works in the oil industry and you are right about a few things. The estimated reserves the Saudis give are thought to be 60-80% over estimates. Also the oil out of Saudi Arabia is not "sweet", it has a lot of sulphur in it and takes a lot of processing.

The oil extracted doesn't really leave massive voids, but does reduce how easily rocks move against each other down below. But no one really knows the long term impact.

Oil will *never* run out. It will however become cost ineffective. If it cost 95% of a barrel of oil to get 1 barrel out. You have a problem. We are not that far along yet but moving towards it. (Hence why Shale oil is viable now, the cost of oil per barrel is high enough to match the high cost of extraction)

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