FabSwingers.com forum: Do you ever go out without id?

By *oe_Steve_NWest OP Couple
over a year ago

Bolton

Seen a few police programmes and there are loads who get pulled up without ANY form of id - they are always dodgy i think, i always have something with me to prove who i am. I just have stuff with me, what about you guys? Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I take me old social health badge...

Great when coppers ask and even better to show it to any would be muggers.

scares the shite out of um

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope, certainly not, never have done unless going somewhere where I know it will be required, and do not see any reason why I should have to.

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By *oe_Steve_NWest OP Couple
over a year ago

Bolton

"I take me old social health badge...

Great when coppers ask and even better to show it to any would be muggers.

scares the shite out of um

i think i love you - Z

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I think it is bred into americans to take some sort of id around with us wherever...

actually the UK is the only place that doesn't really, because you weren't brought up with ID cards and you are so fiercly against them

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By *oe_Steve_NWest OP Couple
over a year ago

Bolton

The thingis that even just popping down to the shops or going out on a night out where you take the minimum, most people would be able to prove who they were and I can't see why you wouldn't want to be able to do that. Z

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By *oe_Steve_NWest OP Couple
over a year ago

Bolton

"I think it is bred into americans to take some sort of id around with us wherever...

actually the UK is the only place that doesn't really, because you weren't brought up with ID cards and you are so fiercly against them"

I think any form of id is a good thing - i endorse the id card - Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am completely against the idea of having to carry ID. If someone is doing wrong, arrest em, leave the rest of us alone to live our lives.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont think I go out with anything on me that says who I am.. unless going shopping.

Katie. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I sometimes go out without any form of id at all, although that's not very often.

But I don't actually have any proper photo id anyway - passport is expired, paper driving licence, nothing else with a photo. Several times I've been refused beer in asda due to not having acceptable id. Even though I'm paying by credit card.

Maybe I'm dodgy then??

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By *oe_Steve_NWest OP Couple
over a year ago

Bolton

"I am completely against the idea of having to carry ID. If someone is doing wrong, arrest em, leave the rest of us alone to live our lives."

i agree to an extent but in order to make that kind of decision a form of id would be helpful -you have an N I number - a passport etc that you don't mind showing when expected to, whats the difference with an id card? Z

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By *oe_Steve_NWest OP Couple
over a year ago

Bolton

"I sometimes go out without any form of id at all, although that's not very often.

Maybe I'm dodgy then??

Yeah, def dodgy, however, if you're not on any 'naughty' databases you should be ok! Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am completely against the idea of having to carry ID. If someone is doing wrong, arrest em, leave the rest of us alone to live our lives.

It's the idea of having to carry it that I don't like. Somehow makes me think of control states and Nazis. Reduced to a number, not nice.

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By *oe_Steve_NWest OP Couple
over a year ago

Bolton

"I am completely against the idea of having to carry ID. If someone is doing wrong, arrest em, leave the rest of us alone to live our lives.

It's the idea of having to carry it that I don't like. Somehow makes me think of control states and Nazis. Reduced to a number, not nice."

Well I hate to tell you this but you are already a number in the system - not a lot to do with Hitler just a sensible way of looking after the population! Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am completely against the idea of having to carry ID. If someone is doing wrong, arrest em, leave the rest of us alone to live our lives.

It's the idea of having to carry it that I don't like. Somehow makes me think of control states and Nazis. Reduced to a number, not nice.

Well I hate to tell you this but you are already a number in the system - not a lot to do with Hitler just a sensible way of looking after the population! Z"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

never needed to so dnt carry any only my debit card in case i need dosh lol

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By *DD1EMan
over a year ago

sea

I always carry my warrant card around with me, never had to use it yet.

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By *oe_Steve_NWest OP Couple
over a year ago

Bolton

"I am completely against the idea of having to carry ID. If someone is doing wrong, arrest em, leave the rest of us alone to live our lives.

It's the idea of having to carry it that I don't like. Somehow makes me think of control states and Nazis. Reduced to a number, not nice.

Well I hate to tell you this but you are already a number in the system - not a lot to do with Hitler just a sensible way of looking after the population! Z

Oh sorry, can you not understand that? Well, you have an NI number - that's National Insurance - and there will be - oh sod it - you know this anyway - paye etc etc Z

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am completely against the idea of having to carry ID. If someone is doing wrong, arrest em, leave the rest of us alone to live our lives.

It's the idea of having to carry it that I don't like. Somehow makes me think of control states and Nazis. Reduced to a number, not nice."

Few of us HAVE to carry ID and I'd resist any moves to make it universally compulsory but there's no doubt there are times when it makes life a bit easier.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I cheered with delight when Dame Stella Rimmington, the former head of MI5..spoke out against ID cards...the biometric eye scans..national data base etc..

She reconized the dangers..function creep et al..police state (her words)..

I almost never carry anything unless I know its required..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah, def dodgy, however, if you're not on any 'naughty' databases you should be ok! Z"

Only naughty database I'm on is the membership list to fab! AFAIK anyway.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

It's the idea of having to carry it that I don't like. Somehow makes me think of control states and Nazis. Reduced to a number, not nice."

see and this is the thing I find fascinating.... the UK is an Exception when it comes to ID cards.... if you go to most other places in the world, they have them and don't quibble about them at all...

it just in the UK where ID cards is like a "3rd rail" topic... one you don't touch at all costs...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I cheered with delight when Dame Stella Rimmington, the former head of MI5..spoke out against ID cards...the biometric eye scans..national data base etc..

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That's a bit rich from someone who, as a director of M&S, can't wait to throw credit and loyalty cards at people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And the UK is the worlds most prolific user of cctv...

A long cool look at the national database and the 50 items of information it could carry on you ...were enough that alot of people rightly had the fear that it could be used inappropriatly..function creep..like terror laws...

It would fundamentally change the relationship between citizens and the police ..as is evidenced by some forces adopting para military uniforms ..and looking unlike a community copper..which is all most people want) boobbies you know on the beat..preventing crime) ...not tazers..batons ..submachine guns and a whole arsenal of weapons in their flak jackets ..

Thank god the Tories dumped it ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I cheered with delight when Dame Stella Rimmington, the former head of MI5..spoke out against ID cards...the biometric eye scans..national data base etc..

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That's a bit rich from someone who, as a director of M&S, can't wait to throw credit and loyalty cards at people."

A national database its not lol

But a point I grant you ..her point was still well made tho ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I cheered with delight when Dame Stella Rimmington, the former head of MI5..spoke out against ID cards...the biometric eye scans..national data base etc..

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That's a bit rich from someone who, as a director of M&S, can't wait to throw credit and loyalty cards at people.

A national database its not lol

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Give them time. I'm sure, deep in their heart of hearts, M&S would love to have the entire nation on their loyalty card scheme.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I cheered with delight when Dame Stella Rimmington, the former head of MI5..spoke out against ID cards...the biometric eye scans..national data base etc..

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That's a bit rich from someone who, as a director of M&S, can't wait to throw credit and loyalty cards at people.

A national database its not lol

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Give them time. I'm sure, deep in their heart of hearts, M&S would love to have the entire nation on their loyalty card scheme."

hahaha its every sodding corporations isn`t it ...

I don`t have one loyalty card..just an aversion and see little profit in having one to be honest..shrugs..

They have enough on me already I guess ...make that know ..well excluding iris and facial scan..DNA profile..sod that eh ?..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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I don`t have one loyalty card..just an aversion and see little profit in having one to be honest..shrugs..

They have enough on me already I guess ...make that know ..well excluding iris and facial scan..DNA profile..sod that eh ?.."

I don't have any loyalty cards but when you get the bulk of your monthly shop delivered it's hard to stop ASDA knowing most of what you're buying and how often.

Beyond the usual debit cards, library card, driving licence etc the only other thing I'm never without is a home made laminated card with my CHI (Community Health Index) number on it.

Any NHS facility in Scotland can access my medical history from that number and that might just be a life saver at some point.

Could it be misused? Probably.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always have ID as I don't leave home without my purse and it contains my driving license. My youngest always carries ID as she's 19 but looks 12. She had a bad headache struggled to the shop across from where she lives to buy some Ibofrofen only to be denied as she looked too young.

Although I always have ID it's my choice, being contrary I would not be happy if I HAD to!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I never have I.D. on me,

never needed to have it on me.

Wonder what these people are doing to need to have it on them.

I know a guy who used to live in Tenerife,where I.D. cards were compulsary.

One day he was knocked down by a man on a motorcycle and was seriously injured.He was taken to hospital but wasn't allowed to enter,because he didn't have his I.D.

He was left on a stretcher outside the hospital,bleeding and dieing with a serious head injury,while his wife had to get a taxi home,pick up his I.D. and then taxi back to the hospital.

Only then would they let him in and begin treating him.

If thats what I.D. cards will bring to this country then i'm against them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

oooh how good would it make me feel to get id'd

but alas i have no use for it when i go out.

when young we want to look older, when old we want to look younger

i guess i just need to look less perverted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always have my driving license with me even though its the old paper one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i always carry id as its not only says how old u are but proves who u are i nearly got taken to police station once because i looked like sumone the police where looking and they wanted to prove my identity, lucky my driving licence proved otherwise and i went on my way.

if you have nothing to hide theres no problem in an id card all the data on it is accecable anyway so dont have to worry about fraud or id theft as people can do that anyway

ry x

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By *he tactile technicianMan
over a year ago

the good lands, the bad lands, the any where you may want me lands

why don't they just rfd tag us all and be done with it!

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By *inktherapyCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

I'd be more than happy with ID cards (and a national dna database) However, I don't carry id with me very often. I never carry my (plastic) driving licence. I only take purse with cards in if I need them. If I'm out at a club, for instance, I have cash only on me, so no id whatsoever.

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

Being an occasional axe murderer who appears on Britain's top 200 most wanted list, I always carry a false identity to throw any police who might stop me.

At present I am Mistress Xanthia, an Anglo-Brazilian madame, belly-dancer and ferret breeder with a specialist doctorate in fungal infections of the Peruvian pygmy marmoset.

Works a treat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I sometimes go out with no id where im going

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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago

Livingston

I take my fingerprints and retinas with me sometimes.... does that count???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I often go out without mine just some cash in my pocket n nowt else

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

My driving licence is in my purse. I never go anywhere without my purse.

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

The only thing I am sure to have on me are my keys... actually sometimes I hide those in next door's garden, but in those situations I'll have money on me and that's about it... owww may be a lip gloss.

I carry as little as possible when I am not working.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have my name labels stitched in my underpants and vest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Day to day I always have id on me, various things in my purse to prove who I am.

On a night out I never take my purse with me, I only take cash.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i dont even have any id so all the time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have my name labels stitched in my underpants and vest."

Never a truer word spoken in jest..

One of New Labours propositions was to have all department store purchases uploaded to the National Identity Register a database linked to the National Police database ...tracking your daily movements..hour by hour..chilling in Iceland !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At 27 I still have to carry ID everywhere, and as my driving license photo is not fit for Halloween, I still take my passport in my purse and it's with me all the time.

Tesco's buying Champagne a few weeks ago with a Tesco credit card and was asked for ID - the logic tells you that if i was going to get d*unk in a local park I wouldn't be after champagne, and wouldnt be paying with a credit card.

Equally in a large department store i was purchasing a £200+ cuttlery canteen and was challenged for ID as it contained knives - of course, i'd buy a full Viners set just for a butter knive so i could go out and feel cool/hard/safe/cock of the hood (delete as applicable)

I have no issue carrying ID or with ID cards, just wish logic would prevail in certain places without the one rule for all method.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have me name and address on labels one clothes does that count xx

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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago

near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack!

In my wallet there`s four trade qualification/identity picture cards including my approved police contracter pass plus my works ID in the document box of the tractor. I`ve no problem in producing any of them when requiered. I`m CRB checked too but as far as the CRB is concerned, it just means that I haven`t been rumbled yet!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't carry id and see absolutely no reason why I do. If I'm not up to no good then there's no reason the powers that be need to know my identity.

What next, id chips buried under our skin, the need to travel documents to move around the city, checkpoints. Total police state.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ive learnt my lesson and will always carry ID just incase i need to buy cutlery

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

Very rarely do

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

I always carry ID because I have nothing to hide and if it makes my life a little bit more easy then that's good with me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Seen a few police programmes and there are loads who get pulled up without ANY form of id - they are always dodgy i think, i always have something with me to prove who i am. I just have stuff with me, what about you guys? Z"

I was asked if i had a Police record the other day..............said i have "Walking on the moon"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have my name labels stitched in my underpants and vest.

Never a truer word spoken in jest..

That's just untrue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have my name labels stitched in my underpants and vest.

Never a truer word spoken in jest..

That's just untrue."

Haven`t much time AV...morning btw...

Just what part ain`t true ?..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't carry id and see absolutely no reason why I do. If I'm not up to no good then there's no reason the powers that be need to know my identity.

What next, id chips buried under our skin, the need to travel documents to move around the city, checkpoints. Total police state."

Now thats an idea for the present government..

Chip babies at birth and then no problems ...get lost, run the scanner over them and if in trouble it will save the coppers some time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" ......

That's just untrue.

Haven`t much time AV...morning btw...

Just what part ain`t true ?.."

That having all department store purchases uploaded to the National Identity Register a database linked to the National Police database in order to track your daily movements..hour by hour..chilling in Iceland was ever one of New Labour's propositions.

I wouldn't be in the least surprised if some Tory funded red top published that allegation as if it were Gospel and had come straight from the No 10 policy unit - but it simply isn't so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" ......

That's just untrue.

Haven`t much time AV...morning btw...

Just what part ain`t true ?..

I wouldn't be in the least surprised if some Tory funded red top published that allegation as if it were Gospel and had come straight from the No 10 policy unit - but it simply isn't so.

Did you follow the route of the Act of Parliament thru the 2 houses ..

You surprise me ?..most businesses were going to be supplied an ID card reader ..checking yer identity ....this info obviously was linked to the NIR...its not disputable that the NIR and Police`s database were to be linked ...its all in the public domain ...citable references etc ..

It was my main problem with successive Labour Home sectetaries ..Blunketts RIPA act? folowed by Clarke..Johnson ..Smith ...

Really astonished me that they put policing powers above prsonal rights to liberty ...

Especially Blunkett ...he passed more draconian powers than any by Tory Home Secs ...the automatic trial by jury being one ..

You should know by now ..I don`t get my opinions from newspapers as I don`t read them ...esp red tops as most are Murdoch owned ...and I`m a natural lefty ..albeit with strong civil libertarian opinions ..wonder where Benn stands on this issue ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" ......

That's just untrue.

Haven`t much time AV...morning btw...

Just what part ain`t true ?..

I wouldn't be in the least surprised if some Tory funded red top published that allegation as if it were Gospel and had come straight from the No 10 policy unit - but it simply isn't so.

Did you follow the route of the Act of Parliament thru the 2 houses ..

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Which Act of Parliament?

I'd be delighted to see the references you claim to be able to cite.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" ......

That's just untrue.

Haven`t much time AV...morning btw...

Just what part ain`t true ?..

I wouldn't be in the least surprised if some Tory funded red top published that allegation as if it were Gospel and had come straight from the No 10 policy unit - but it simply isn't so.

Did you follow the route of the Act of Parliament thru the 2 houses ..

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Which Act of Parliament?

I'd be delighted to see the references you claim to be able to cite."

I ain`t running out on yer..catch up later ...

The ID card Act of Parliament 2006 !

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By *eaboMan
over a year ago

marden

never carry id, i don't have a photo driving licence, i value my privacy. BUT everytime you text. Make a mobile call, use yer credit or debit card yer position and time are logged. This info is available to the police. There is also a website that for a very small fee will track any mobile phone you want. How free are we?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"never carry id, i don't have a photo driving licence, i value my privacy. BUT everytime you text. Make a mobile call, use yer credit or debit card yer position and time are logged. This info is available to the police. There is also a website that for a very small fee will track any mobile phone you want. How free are we?"

Really must go ...I`m in so much trouble

Google" Master the Internet" fer a heads up !

The ID card Act 2006 was scrapped in the 2010 Identity Act 2010 ...with a little digging around !

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

I was under the Impression that the 2006 Identity Card Act covered the distribution of said ID cards....but made no reference to electronic reading of cards?

I must have missed the part where the government said that businesses in the UK would be required to have machinery installed to read ID cards......

Can you point me out to any government proposal on this?

No conspiracy websites....government one's will do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I never carry ID. Why would I need to?

In this world where the likes of Comedy Dave sends us on excursions fighting for democracy why can't I as a law-abiding citizen wander the country without someone asking to see "my papers"?

Let's enjoy the freedom.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Every one needs an id like i got altho out of date.

The pic looks like,a reject off prisoner cell block h and can scare kids, old people and coppers ...oh and next doors dog .

Was done curtesy of max speilman or whatever the name is and after a ten hour night shift.

I was suppose to show it folk but i found i couldnt be that cruel

I kid you not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was under the Impression that the 2006 Identity Card Act covered the distribution of said ID cards....but made no reference to electronic reading of cards?

I must have missed the part where the government said that businesses in the UK would be required to have machinery installed to read ID cards......

Can you point me out to any government proposal on this?

No conspiracy websites....government one's will do."

Grow up ...conspiracy websites!!!...reading tea leaves again!!

The various bills and transcripts of select commitees are in the public domain ..central to ID cards was the NIR ..themost contentious part of the proposed Act ...amended under duress after being challenged in the European courts !!

I deal in facts you deal in barbed insults!!

Childish ..its the last time I`ll reconize you !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was under the Impression that the 2006 Identity Card Act covered the distribution of said ID cards....but made no reference to electronic reading of cards?

I must have missed the part where the government said that businesses in the UK would be required to have machinery installed to read ID cards......

Can you point me out to any government proposal on this?

No conspiracy websites....government one's will do."

I've only had a quick look but the only place I can find any suggestion of linked card readers in stores is on David Icke's website - so I suppose it must be true

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By *ashful BazMan
over a year ago

poole dorset

I never carry any ID myself, no need for it.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"I was under the Impression that the 2006 Identity Card Act covered the distribution of said ID cards....but made no reference to electronic reading of cards?

I must have missed the part where the government said that businesses in the UK would be required to have machinery installed to read ID cards......

Can you point me out to any government proposal on this?

No conspiracy websites....government one's will do.

Grow up ...conspiracy websites!!!...reading tea leaves again!!

I deal in facts you deal in barbed insults!!

Childish ..its the last time I`ll reconize you !"

Insults?

That's the second time you have accused me of insulting you...WHERE?

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By *ouple1234Couple
over a year ago

BELFAST UK

never carry ID unless going out to a club

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was under the Impression that the 2006 Identity Card Act covered the distribution of said ID cards....but made no reference to electronic reading of cards?

I must have missed the part where the government said that businesses in the UK would be required to have machinery installed to read ID cards......

Can you point me out to any government proposal on this?

No conspiracy websites....government one's will do.

I've only had a quick look but the only place I can find any suggestion of linked card readers in stores is on David Icke's website - so I suppose it must be true

Given you didn`t reconize there was even an a

Act AV I`m hardly surprised ...

You looked at David Ickes website really ...not that I`m given to educating people on how to access info how government works or how to scrutinise their workings ..why not try ...

Publications Parliament

www.parliament

Hansard

Office of Public Sector Information

And request info via the Freedom of Information Act

And countless other ways ...

I`ve had a quick dig around ...trying to access all the info takes time ..its years since I looked at this shit ...however ..

In 2006 Brown asked a division of the Treasury ...Public and Private Forum to look at ways to open up and dramitically increase the usage of the ID cards into the private sector ...He appointed Crosby to produce a report ..called the Crosby report ...it pissed all over Browns ambitions ..the main distinction being data assurance and data management ..

The IPS also enquired into private and commercial involvement ..Ruth Kelly and Jacqui Smith headed the investigation ...part of which an be found in Identity Act ..first section 37 report to parliament ...

Look at Home Affairs Comittee Identity Card 4th report sesssion 2003/4 volume II...

Loads of stuff out there ..to be honest I can`t be fucked to look ...there were over 250 amendments to the Bill as it went thru its winding route thru the legalistive process ...trawling thru it all to get the juicy bits takes committement ..I can`t be bothered..

The Home Affairs Select Committees minutes are rich pickings ..as is the Joint Committee on Human Rights ...The Information Commissioner ...

I`m bored writing about it ...anyone interested do it yerself ..

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over a year ago

" .............

I`m bored writing about it ...anyone interested do it yerself .."

Relax........... if you can't find anything you can't find anything.

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over a year ago

" .............

I`m bored writing about it ...anyone interested do it yerself ..

Relax........... if you can't find anything you can't find anything."

hahaha ..I`m still in a rush ...gotta go ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I usually have a debit/credit card on me.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

A simple link to any government article that advocates the use of businesses to collate information via an ID card will do....

Just a link and we can read it for ourselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

id is in my wallet but not new ;always my old one as its a provisional license

ano need 2 renew it but with cost going up just have to wait

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over a year ago

"A simple link to any government article that advocates the use of businesses to collate information via an ID card will do....

Just a link and we can read it for ourselves.

Ah widnae haud yer breath

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why not just have done with it and have one card that does everything,

I.D.

age,

address,

Driving licence,

Passport,

Criminal record,

Dental record,

Medical history,

Family history,

N.I. number,

Tax band,

credit rating,

Credit/Debit/Money,

Computer thingymebob,

Breath tester,

Drug tester,

T.V./Sky/Set top box e.t.c Remote,

Mini pocket tool kit(With torch),

Door key,

Games machine controller,

Hand warmer,

Penis/Breast size,

Vibrator.

Any more suggestions?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i always carry id as its not only says how old u are but proves who u are i nearly got taken to police station once because i looked like sumone the police where looking and they wanted to prove my identity, lucky my driving licence proved otherwise and i went on my way.

if you have nothing to hide theres no problem in an id card all the data on it is accecable anyway so dont have to worry about fraud or id theft as people can do that anyway

ry x"

is that a gun in your avatar?

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over a year ago

It is a nightmare I dont have any id except birth certificate, nhs card and national insurance. I dont drive, dont have a bank account or passport. And I cant get on waiting list for a house because I cant prove that im english even though I have been a tennant for 13 years.

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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

"Why not just have done with it and have one card that does everything,

I.D.

age,

address,

Driving licence,

Passport,

Criminal record,

Dental record,

Medical history,

Family history,

N.I. number,

Tax band,

credit rating,

Credit/Debit/Money,

Computer thingymebob,

Breath tester,

Drug tester,

T.V./Sky/Set top box e.t.c Remote,

Mini pocket tool kit(With torch),

Door key,

Games machine controller,

Hand warmer,

Penis/Breast size,

Vibrator.

Any more suggestions?"

Just bar code everyone at birth and be done with it, will save on having to carry loyalty cards too

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

"And the UK is the worlds most prolific user of cctv...

Thank god the Tories dumped it .."

Police forces have had submachine guns since the 50s - they went from Thompsons to Stirlings to the MP5's that are ubiquitous now.

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

I can't wait to see this website that will track my mobile phone for a small fee. In fact I'll go further; I'll guarantee that such a site is either

a) a complete scam, or

b) so illegal the ICO would go into meltdown...

Why?

Location info is personal data - there is no reason for it to be passe dbeyond the telco to a third party, especially for commercial purposes. Plod require an order to get it from the telcos...

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By *andKCouple
over a year ago

Norfolk

I have to show id a minimum of 3 times before I can even get in to my office so it has become a kind of habbit to carry it at all times now - I never get asked for it in oubs and clubs though, even if I beg

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

BTW, there is a good reason to go out without personal ID.

My wallet has ID cards, credit cards, lots of personal data. If it turned up in, say, a swingers club or a venue it would be very hard to explain to some interested parties what I was doing there (work related issues, shall we say...)

So there have been times when if I know I'm out to play I'll take money and a beer phone - nothing more.

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

if you have nothing to hide theres no problem in an id card all the data on it is accecable anyway so dont have to worry about fraud or id theft as people can do that anyway

ry x

is that a gun in your avatar?

I think he's just pleased to see you...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If Mr's Red is with me there is always something in her handbag which would identify us both.

If I was out alone, I very much doubt that I could prove who I was. I have an awful habit of losing things such as driving licences, credit cards etc etc, so they all stay with Mrs R. for safe keeping.

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By *ouplefunukCouple
over a year ago

North Bristol

I have no choice. I don't have a driving licence and I'm sure as hell not carrying my passport with me in case my bag gets stolen. They're bloody expensive to replace!

So no, I don't carry ID and i've never been asked for any either

(even when I was 17, going to an over 25's nightclub)

*Her*

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

never go out without my wallet and inside there is my DL.

so no.. never

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...........And I cant get on waiting list for a house because I cant prove that im english even though I have been a tennant for 13 years. "

I can't quite fathom out how having been a tenant for 13 years proves you're English.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

Why would you need to prove you are English to get on a housing waiting list?.....makes no sense to me either

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over a year ago

Because I need a passport for id I have a short standard birth certificate but thats not good enough they want the full length long one. Makes no sense to me either.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I usually have id, my son carries id all the while seeings he only looks about 15. But now he has his provitional license much easier

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I often go out and about without ID.....mind I often go out without knickers either................. I'm sure one way or another I'll be recognised.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"Because I need a passport for id I have a short standard birth certificate but thats not good enough they want the full length long one. Makes no sense to me either."

So were you born in the UK to British parents?, if so can't you just apply to the County Council where you were born for a standard birth certificate?

Have you got a passport?

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

i thought this was a thread for the Jungians....

Oh well ill go play with my anima

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over a year ago

"Because I need a passport for id I have a short standard birth certificate but thats not good enough they want the full length long one. Makes no sense to me either."

Nick Griffin and his pals would have us believe it's easier to get a tenancy if you don't have a UK passport.

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over a year ago

"Because I need a passport for id I have a short standard birth certificate but thats not good enough they want the full length long one. Makes no sense to me either.

Nick Griffin and his pals would have us believe it's easier to get a tenancy if you don't have a UK passport."

From a family friends personal experience, it is!!

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over a year ago

"Because I need a passport for id I have a short standard birth certificate but thats not good enough they want the full length long one. Makes no sense to me either.

So were you born in the UK to British parents?, if so can't you just apply to the County Council where you were born for a standard birth certificate?

I dont have a passport and yes I am english but you need so much id for the council its unreal.

Have you got a passport?"

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

"i thought this was a thread for the Jungians....

Oh well ill go play with my anima

PMSL...

Jung hearts run free, as Candi Staton would have it...

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over a year ago

newcastle

"Because I need a passport for id I have a short standard birth certificate but thats not good enough they want the full length long one. Makes no sense to me either.

Nick Griffin and his pals would have us believe it's easier to get a tenancy if you don't have a UK passport.

From a family friends personal experience, it is!!"

So both parties had equivalent housing needs did they?

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over a year ago

"Because I need a passport for id I have a short standard birth certificate but thats not good enough they want the full length long one. Makes no sense to me either.

Nick Griffin and his pals would have us believe it's easier to get a tenancy if you don't have a UK passport.

From a family friends personal experience, it is!!

So both parties had equivalent housing needs did they?"

Nope, one was born n bred in England, the other born n bred and still lived in Greece.

Long story short....

English female Marries Greek male, he proves to be rather abusive, so after a few year of living in Greece and still paying her stamp/duty, she makes her way back here, after explaining the situation asks for housing help, they say there's not a lot they can do, but then ask if her Greek husband is in England and will he be living with her, No she replies, explains again how he beat her, oh they said, only, if he was then we would have to house you straight away and give him £76 (or about that much, can't remember exact amount).

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I have been against the concept of ID cards being introduced into the UK, for a large no of reasons since it was implemented by the last government, with cross party support: largely due to abuse potential, followed by the huge cost of implementation and maintenance. It solved a non-existent problem.

Most people have some items that will identify them, should this be necessary, carried upon their person at most times. This helps people be identified in emergencies, and the police are able to do checks, should - for example - an arrestable offence be committed.

There is nothing inherently dodgy about anyone who carries no ID: there is no legal requirement to do so here and, in good weather, when dressing in skimpy clothes is preferable, discarding anything but essentials is helpful. OK, I like being in skimpy clothes at all times, but it's especially nice for people not to have a whole clutter of stuff that they may lose, such as mobile phones, cash, bank cards, keys etc. That's the most I like to carry with me at many points.

The other consideration is that as financial institutions become ever less eager to thrust credit cards upon us, and whilst our population becomes progressively poorer, due to job losses, pay freezes, assets earning interest below the rate of inflation etc, then this does create an ever larger volume of people who won't necessarily have bank/credit cards either carried on them, or owned by them at all.

So - dodgy to have no ID : in the UK, absolutely not for citizens. Visitors, depending on their nationality, may need to carry passports, visas, ID cards, car insurance documents if driving etc.

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

"Because I need a passport for id I have a short standard birth certificate but thats not good enough they want the full length long one. Makes no sense to me either.

Nick Griffin and his pals would have us believe it's easier to get a tenancy if you don't have a UK passport.

From a family friends personal experience, it is!!

So both parties had equivalent housing needs did they?

Nope, one was born n bred in England, the other born n bred and still lived in Greece.

Long story short....

I'd say that the housing advice recounted there is absolutely wrong, and so badly explained as to be worthless.

However, anyone from outside the UK (and if you've been living outside the UK that's you, irrespective of citizenship) presenting to a UK housing authority as potentially homeless when there may be a family home elsewhere is going to be a very low priority. So it is possible that anhousing officer might take the _iew that a whole family (i.e. with husband) that has nowhere to go is a higher priority than a family which might have a home to go back to, depending on the Greek legal system.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"i thought this was a thread for the Jungians....

Oh well ill go play with my anima

PMSL...

Jung hearts run free, as Candi Staton would have it..."

At least one person got my joke...unsurprised at who it was tho

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over a year ago

I carry a mirror

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By *hi-John69Man
over a year ago

chichester

you be careful granny you might frighten your self

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