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By *yrdwoman OP Woman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

On Horizon now. Prepare for absolutely no conclusive proof either way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They shut Ali up so its a yes from me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On Horizon now. Prepare for absolutely no conclusive proof either way.

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By *yrdwoman OP Woman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"They shut Ali up so its a yes from me

I would be Godzilla in a bad mood without mine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I quit using them so they are a miracle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm looking into them now funny enough

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By *yrdwoman OP Woman
over a year ago

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Soooo, healthier than cigs then.

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By *r and mrs sanddancerCouple
over a year ago

BOLDON COLLIERY

Been on them for 4 yrs now feel better than I have for ages .breathing better and bedroom staminer far better don't get out of breath mid shag now

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By *uthTVDerbysTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

That guy isn't even a proper Doctor. Go figure. Yes efags ain't safe. And neither is masturbating too much. But people will do both by convincing themselves with their best excuse they can find.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That guy isn't even a proper Doctor. Go figure. Yes efags ain't safe. And neither is masturbating too much. But people will do both by convincing themselves with their best excuse they can find. "

Actually the Royal College of Doctors and the British Medical Council have said they're no more dangerous than drinking a cup of tea and have called for doctors to start prescribing them over other methods of smoking cessation.

Just in time for the ridiculous article 20 of the TPD. How vaping has been roped in with tobacco products is beyond me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

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By *ngandnickCouple
over a year ago

Haverhill

We have been using them for the past 16 months and wouldn't go back to smoking. We certainly don't miss the awful smell of cigarettes or the cough every morning--- so for us they have been a miracle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs. "

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off."

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx"

There are also concerns of a condition called popcorn lung.

I suspect it will be many years before potential health risks are fully recognised

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx"

With the greatest of respect, your nurse friend is talking out of her arse. Statements from the British Medical Council and Royal College of Doctors are on their respective websites (can't post the links here). As for fake liquids... I've never heard of them. They contain vegetable glycerine, propelyne glycol, nicotine and food flavourings - what is there to fake? Maybe she was referring to cloned recipes or people (like me) who mix their own.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It would take quite a bit for them to be worse than cigarettes, but I still feel like there's more to come out about them that will settle the debate.

A lot of investment and agendas for both sides, health professionals seem mixed about e-cigs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx

There are also concerns of a condition called popcorn lung.

I suspect it will be many years before potential health risks are fully recognised "

Again, another none-story. The concerns over popcorn lung were because some of the food flavourings used in eliquids contain dycetyl which can cause a cough with high exposure. Cigarettes contain several hundred times more dycetyl than those eliquids did and the vape industry were very quick to remove any liquids that may have contained it.

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By *hats_in_a_usernameMan
over a year ago

Southampton

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx

There are also concerns of a condition called popcorn lung.

I suspect it will be many years before potential health risks are fully recognised

Nice to see an informed post

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx

Shes not my friend shes a nurse. Im not saying shes right cquse it does go against popular opinion. But then shes a and im not so i have more faith in her opinion than ypurs.

She said other things have been added to the liquids.i dont know the details...

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By *yrdwoman OP Woman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

They tested liquids too. Interestingly menthol damaged cell tissue more than pineapple flavour

The main conclusion of the show was, whatever the damage they cause, they are still immeasurably better than cigs, and people should not be dissuaded from using them to give up smoking. The concern was with non-smokers who started using them, and long term vapers like me, who have no intention of stopping vaping.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I surpose if they are used as a tool for quiting,they are good.

But are they designed to be a replacement for long term use,like some, I know people who have been on them for years.Maybe this is where the problems could arise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx

Shes not my friend shes a nurse. Im not saying shes right cquse it does go against popular opinion. But then shes a and im not so i have more faith in her opinion than ypurs.

She said other things have been added to the liquids.i dont know the details..."

Mine isn't an opinion, I've given you checkable facts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A few highlights taken from the recent research by Regulatory Toxicology and Pharmacology.

The e-cigarettes contained and delivered mostly glycerin and/or PG and water.

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Aerosol nicotine content was 85% lower than the cigarette smoke nicotine.

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The levels of HPHCs in aerosol were consistent with the air blanks (2 µg/puff).

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Mainstream cigarette smoke HPHCs (~3000 µg/puff) were 1500 times higher than e-cigarette HPHCs.

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No significant contribution of tested HPHC classes was found for the e-cigarettes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx

Shes not my friend shes a nurse. Im not saying shes right cquse it does go against popular opinion. But then shes a and im not so i have more faith in her opinion than ypurs.

She said other things have been added to the liquids.i dont know the details...

Mine isn't an opinion, I've given you checkable facts."

Wow. Certainly didn't mean to start an argument here. Although from discussions with those in the industry I recognise that not all liquids have been fully tested, especially some of the stuff being imported from the far east. I pay the little bit extra for liquid that I have managed to verify the content of.

I do thank you all for the additional information on here and am impressed once again by the wide variety of knowledge within this community. ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx

Shes not my friend shes a nurse. Im not saying shes right cquse it does go against popular opinion. But then shes a and im not so i have more faith in her opinion than ypurs.

She said other things have been added to the liquids.i dont know the details...

Mine isn't an opinion, I've given you checkable facts."

She gave me details to check at the time too. Always two sides to everything.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On Horizon now. Prepare for absolutely no conclusive proof either way.

Look to b th way.

I think the main issue are the ingredients of each liquid as some do contain bad chemicals to enhance flavour and vapour. Nicotine content can be a problem too as in its concentrated form it is poisonous and very easy to get an overdose when vaping.

Otherwise no problem! Just vegetable glycerine and natural flavours.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dislike them because they produce a far heavier haze than ciggarettes. And the flavour of whatever someone is smoking lingers and its not very nice. I find that vapours and e-cig smokers are also more likely to attempt to smoke indoors. When I used to work in a pub, I would often get them smoking inside and reply with "but its not a ciggarette butt!" when asked to take it outside as it was the landlords rules

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By *ulfilthmentMan
over a year ago

Here

"Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids .."

/\ This /\

A friend of mine changed to e-cigs and the chemicals in the cheap liquid he started buying have been blamed for permanent damage to his sense of taste and smell.

If you must use them; don't by the liquid at rock bottom prices from a random bloke on the Internet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surly they have not been out long enough to see the long term effects , my theory is its not natural so surly there will be some adverse effect your still messing with chemicals we are not designed to smoke anything .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx

Shes not my friend shes a nurse. Im not saying shes right cquse it does go against popular opinion. But then shes a and im not so i have more faith in her opinion than ypurs.

She said other things have been added to the liquids.i dont know the details...

Mine isn't an opinion, I've given you checkable facts.

She gave me details to check at the time too. Always two sides to everything. "

Let me guess the details were tests done by the big pharmaceutical companies. The ones loosing billions to the vape industry and the bones behind the rigged tests that even the tobacco companies have debugged.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I use one but think the shit will hit the fan in about 5 years time,after all we are designed to breath oxygen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the concerns with the e-liquids come primarily from two things - that many manufacturers use both flavourings and colourings which shouldn't be ingested in such a way. It's a valid point imo.

I felt way better from using mine for a few months over smoking but it's not something I'd want to do long term.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx

Shes not my friend shes a nurse. Im not saying shes right cquse it does go against popular opinion. But then shes a and im not so i have more faith in her opinion than ypurs.

She said other things have been added to the liquids.i dont know the details..."

But the liquids are basicsly the cheapest of cheap ingredients.

Theres nothing to add for making a quick buck.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx

Shes not my friend shes a nurse. Im not saying shes right cquse it does go against popular opinion. But then shes a and im not so i have more faith in her opinion than ypurs.

She said other things have been added to the liquids.i dont know the details...

But the liquids are basicsly the cheapest of cheap ingredients.

Theres nothing to add for making a quick buck.

Well, with the new TPD and requirement for batch testing for every manufacturer that myth will now be debunked too. The ingredients are cheap because they're very common - propylene glycol (used in wattage things like asthma inhalers), vegetable glycerine (used extensively in ah e food and medical industry), food flavourings and nicotine.

I mix my own using all pharmaceutical grade ingredients and a litre costs me less than £10 to make.

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By *yrdwoman OP Woman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"I use one but think the shit will hit the fan in about 5 years time,after all we are designed to breath oxygen"

Well, not just oxygen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx

Shes not my friend shes a nurse. Im not saying shes right cquse it does go against popular opinion. But then shes a and im not so i have more faith in her opinion than ypurs.

She said other things have been added to the liquids.i dont know the details...

Mine isn't an opinion, I've given you checkable facts.

She gave me details to check at the time too. Always two sides to everything.

Nope by the goverment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx

Shes not my friend shes a nurse. Im not saying shes right cquse it does go against popular opinion. But then shes a and im not so i have more faith in her opinion than ypurs.

She said other things have been added to the liquids.i dont know the details...

But the liquids are basicsly the cheapest of cheap ingredients.

Theres nothing to add for making a quick buck.

I dont know the whys or hows im just given an alternqtive view that was given to me by a medical professional.

I have bought an e cig and im not completely against them.

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By *imon and saffyCouple
over a year ago

southampton

Shame they used two cloud chasers in the control room to measure particles in the air.

A large number of us don't produce anywhere near the amount of vapour they did.

I'd still dear clear of cheap imported liquids as you don't know whether any corners have been cut. Massively cheaper than cigarettes, seems to be massively safer too.

Probably far more problems with long term exposure to traffic pollutants than ecig vapour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx

Shes not my friend shes a nurse. Im not saying shes right cquse it does go against popular opinion. But then shes a and im not so i have more faith in her opinion than ypurs.

She said other things have been added to the liquids.i dont know the details...

Mine isn't an opinion, I've given you checkable facts.

She gave me details to check at the time too. Always two sides to everything.

Nope by the goverment"

All the UK medical approved studies have been in favour of widespread prescribing of ecigs over other forms of smoking cessation. The only negative ones have been funded by the likes of Glaxco, Johnson and Johnson and Phyzer.

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By *erryhallMan
over a year ago

birmingham

I used to smoke 30 to 40 cigs a day i went on to vaping 3 years ago and wouldnt look back

I make my own mixes so that i know what goes into them and sometimes i dont even put the nicotine in i enjoy vaping as i used to enjoy smoking but if they keep putting all these restrictions into vaping then i will just go back to the fags and if you notice i call it vaping not smoking these are not cigs but we are treated as though they are by certain people and once again we will be made to feel like social lepers and the govt will want to make loads of money off us by taxing it to make up for the people giving up smoking and tell us that its in our health interests

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx

Shes not my friend shes a nurse. Im not saying shes right cquse it does go against popular opinion. But then shes a and im not so i have more faith in her opinion than ypurs.

She said other things have been added to the liquids.i dont know the details...

Mine isn't an opinion, I've given you checkable facts.

She gave me details to check at the time too. Always two sides to everything.

Nope by the goverment

And as i said its not in the public arena yet...

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By *GHertsCouple
over a year ago

North Herts

Early days yet but smoked my last Lambert & Butler on Friday (20th May) bought a vape starter pack Saturday afternoon and started using it that evening. So far not a single craving for a ciggie and no compunction to smoke one either (whereas usually by this stage when I've quit before, including with various nicotine replacement therapies, I've been climbing walls).

Early days as I said, but so far so good!!

Mr G

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx

Shes not my friend shes a nurse. Im not saying shes right cquse it does go against popular opinion. But then shes a and im not so i have more faith in her opinion than ypurs.

She said other things have been added to the liquids.i dont know the details...

Mine isn't an opinion, I've given you checkable facts.

She gave me details to check at the time too. Always two sides to everything.

Nope by the goverment

And as i said its not in the public arena yet...

So you're giving me information that can't be checked?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx

Shes not my friend shes a nurse. Im not saying shes right cquse it does go against popular opinion. But then shes a and im not so i have more faith in her opinion than ypurs.

She said other things have been added to the liquids.i dont know the details...

Mine isn't an opinion, I've given you checkable facts.

She gave me details to check at the time too. Always two sides to everything.

Nope by the goverment

And as i said its not in the public arena yet...

So you're giving me information that can't be checked?"

I mentioned it cause it was relevant for heavens sake

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

our daily job is to collect hazardous waste for disposal

one of our regular jobs is to collect from manc unis chemistry dept where they test and invent these blends .

ALL the liquid waste we receive from this location is highly toxic and more often than not corrosive

make of that what you will

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By *imon and saffyCouple
over a year ago

southampton

"They tested liquids too. Interestingly menthol damaged cell tissue more than pineapple flavour

Depends where you buy your liquid from.

Those that have been shown to be contaminated have been those cheap ones imported from China and the like.

Buy good quality liquid from reputable companies and they're as good as you'll get.

E cigs stopped us both smoking. Never felt (or smelled!) better!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I quit on 7th may this year with an e-cig. I had 2 fags in the first two days just to compare and found I enjoy the e-cig better so have been completely fag free for 2 weeks now and enjoying it. No more trying to roll up in wind and rain.. no more having to have the car window down when it's bad weather.. no more rancid morning breath.. no more ashtray smell.. and many more things.

Having said all that I am not anti smoking now.. if people wanna smoke near me I have no probs.. in fact the smell reinforces me not to have one.

Happy vaping!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx

There are also concerns of a condition called popcorn lung.

I suspect it will be many years before potential health risks are fully recognised "

Im with u x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"our daily job is to collect hazardous waste for disposal

one of our regular jobs is to collect from manc unis chemistry dept where they test and invent these blends .

ALL the liquid waste we receive from this location is highly toxic and more often than not corrosive

make of that what you will "

That, I don't believe.

I have bottles of the raw ingredients sat on a shelf at home. Each one is harmless in its raw state with the exception of the nicotine and even that's diluted to a point where it's virtually harmless.

What are you collecting that's hazardous and corrosive?

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By *illdeeCouple
over a year ago

nr Edinburgh

"I use one but think the shit will hit the fan in about 5 years time,after all we are designed to breath oxygen"

Nope, nitrogen's the way forward!

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"our daily job is to collect hazardous waste for disposal

one of our regular jobs is to collect from manc unis chemistry dept where they test and invent these blends .

ALL the liquid waste we receive from this location is highly toxic and more often than not corrosive

make of that what you will

That, I don't believe.

What are you collecting that's hazardous and corrosive?"
ok so manc uviversity are paying us lots of money to take away waste that they can just pour down the drian ?as i said we collect the waste from differnt trial blends

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By *ittie4UCouple
over a year ago

Watford

"That guy isn't even a proper Doctor. Go figure. Yes efags ain't safe. And neither is masturbating too much. But people will do both by convincing themselves with their best excuse they can find. "

Why do people on here think it's OK to lie? Ignorance or laziness. Or both?

Dr Michael Moseley trained and qualified as a Doctor at the Royal Free in London.

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By *ittie4UCouple
over a year ago

Watford

"That guy isn't even a proper Doctor. Go figure. Yes efags ain't safe. And neither is masturbating too much. But people will do both by convincing themselves with their best excuse they can find.

Just in time for the ridiculous article 20 of the TPD. How vaping has been roped in with tobacco products is beyond me."

WOW. Is this the Royal College of Doctors of Canada or Australia? Or is it the Royal College of Surgeons or the Royal College of Physicians you are referring to - and you just can't even get your most basic facts right??

Is that the British Medical Council that deals with the registration of doctors and professional misconduct complaints? Or is it the British Medical Association - and you can't even get your most basic facts right?

Ignorance or laziness? Or both?

And is that advice from the BMA the same advice that called for e-cigarettes to be better regulated? The same regulation that was added, very sensibly, to the TPD?

Ignorance on your part, or just laziness! Or both?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Neither....just a bit of clever science!

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By *ittie4UCouple
over a year ago

Watford

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off."

Or maybe irresponsible manufacturers and retailers selling products that are potentially very dangerous.

Sounds like a market that needs some sensible regulation....oh, look, there is now! Good.

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over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Or maybe irresponsible manufacturers and retailers selling products that are potentially very dangerous.

Sounds like a market that needs some sensible regulation....oh, look, there is now! Good."

Just avoid anything with "madi in China" on it......guaranteed fake or unsafe!

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By *ittie4UCouple
over a year ago

Watford

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx

With all due respect, it's you that are communicating out of your arse. Quite frequently too. Have you been eating too many beans?

You can't even be bothered to get the names of the organisations right. Though obviously with your years of medical training and expertise, we should all listen to your opinion over the top of the medical profession.

It's not an issue of 'fake' liquids, it's an issue of ensuring, 100% of the time, that the liquids used are free from harmful contamination and are 100% safe for human use.

It's really not rocket science!

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over a year ago

"That guy isn't even a proper Doctor. Go figure. Yes efags ain't safe. And neither is masturbating too much. But people will do both by convincing themselves with their best excuse they can find.

Just in time for the ridiculous article 20 of the TPD. How vaping has been roped in with tobacco products is beyond me.

Ignorance or laziness? Or both?

And is that advice from the BMA the same advice that called for e-cigarettes to be better regulated? The same regulation that was added, very sensibly, to the TPD?

Ignorance on your part, or just laziness! Or both?"

It was actually a slight error on my part, neither ignorance nor laziness - no need for the attitude.

It was The Royal College of Physicians, the BMA and Public Health England.

I can't post links but their statements are available on their websites and full reports are available for download.

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over a year ago

"Certainly working for me. After smoking for over 30 years I changed to e-cigs and I can honestly say I have never felt better.

Yes there does need to be some regulation with the content of the liquids and the safety of the electrical coils. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with e-cigs.

Content of the liquids? There's 4 ingredients, sometimes 3.

The coils aren't an issue either, it's idiots using the wrong batteries or winding super low ohm coils on mechanical mods and then blowing their hand off.

Actually a nurse told me not to switch to an ecig because of the number of fake liquids on the sheleves. She said there has been a massive increase in throat cancer becaude of these liquids.

She also said there was a report due out on it this year. No sign of anything yet though... xx

With all due respect, it's you that are communicating out of your arse. Quite frequently too. Have you been eating too many beans?

It's not an issue of 'fake' liquids, it's an issue of ensuring, 100% of the time, that the liquids used are free from harmful contamination and are 100% safe for human use.

It's really not rocket science!

I wasn't the one who mentioned fake liquids because there's no such thing. I'm totally for batch testing and making sure they're safe but limiting bottles to 10ml and tank sizes to 2ml is ludicrous.

E-liquid is not a tobacco product and shouldn't be treated like one.

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