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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So the US has kicked off the controversial "toilet gate" when it comes to transgender kids and which toilets they can use.

Where do you stand with this? Should kids use the toilet of the se they were born? Or the one they identify with??

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

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By *litheroevoyeurMan
over a year ago

Clitheroe

I couldn't give a hoot which loo they use, we all have to go. With regard to adult transgende_ed people, the company my wife works for uses genetalia as the deciding factor. So if a transgende_ed guy is pretty op then "he" has to use male toilets.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Use any...a toilet is toilet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Use any...a toilet is toilet."

And they are going to use a cubicle so what does it matter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So the US has kicked off the controversial "toilet gate" when it comes to transgender kids and which toilets they can use.

Where do you stand with this? Should kids use the toilet of the se they were born? Or the one they identify with??"

A bearded looking fellow in the ladies toilet? A lady in the gentlemans? Wouldn't that cause more of an issue?

(And even the police have said that they really have no idea how they will enforce it).

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

You are thinking about adults. The ruling was based around schools like changing rooms toilets. So same applies what are your thoughts for this in your kids schools

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Unisex toilets all the way. Might teach boys how to use them properly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unless you are squeamish about seeing someone squat over the urinals I can't see what all the fuss is about .....

I mean so long as your careful and don't allow your skirt too dangle onto the pube traps there is nothing gross about it at all......

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

I don't get why we have separate toilets when we are out. We don't at home. I often go in the men's if there is someone in the ladies.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

At some point I suspect schools here will have to adopt these measures.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You are thinking about adults. The ruling was based around schools like changing rooms toilets. So same applies what are your thoughts for this in your kids schools"

The US ruling was about adults. Well, about toilets.

Here, we tend to go with what the person thinks. Children should be allowed to piss and poop in whatever toilet they feel most comfortable in. Not exactly going to turn the world upside down.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A campsite I go to only as one toilet block..guess what..everybody uses them with no problems at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Identified gender, because unless there is a gender inspection on my he door then how are you gonna know, and just because someone is born in the wrong my body, is that reason for anyone to treat them with less respect, it's a toilet, what do you think is going to happen? Are there people who still think they have so much sex appeal, that they are going to get jumped on?

Watch this and get edumacated

https://youtu.be/PxJIGvb_EUM

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i use the mens if i can't hold it in because the queues are shorter, nobody says anything.

not sure why toilets are separated by gender anyway? does anyone know why they did that?

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Just have toilets and let people use them.

I've been to lots of places where this is the case and no problems.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Identified gender, because unless there is a gender inspection on my he door then how are you gonna know, and just because someone is born in the wrong my body, is that reason for anyone to treat them with less respect, it's a toilet, what do you think is going to happen? Are there people who still think they have so much sex appeal, that they are going to get jumped on?

Watch this and get edumacated

https://youtu.be/PxJIGvb_EUM

"

Wind your neck in I asked your opinion on the matter I didn't pass judgement on it.

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By *edMan
over a year ago

cambridgeshire


"i use the mens if i can't hold it in because the queues are shorter, nobody says anything.

not sure why toilets are separated by gender anyway? does anyone know why they did that?"

There is a basic difference...

In the men's loos all the seats are up and in the women's they are down

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"You are thinking about adults. The ruling was based around schools like changing rooms toilets. So same applies what are your thoughts for this in your kids schools

The US ruling was about adults. Well, about toilets.

Here, we tend to go with what the person thinks. Children should be allowed to piss and poop in whatever toilet they feel most comfortable in. Not exactly going to turn the world upside down."

And yes the ruling was made for schools

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"i use the mens if i can't hold it in because the queues are shorter, nobody says anything.

not sure why toilets are separated by gender anyway? does anyone know why they did that?

There is a basic difference...

In the men's loos all the seats are up and in the women's they are down "

Have to say that is not true in my experience....just a myth perpetuated by the media

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They used to have separate swimming baths back in the Victorian times. Probably stemmed from that line of thinking.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Political correctness is an empty right-wing smear designed only to elevate the user.

imo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Identified gender, because unless there is a gender inspection on my he door then how are you gonna know, and just because someone is born in the wrong my body, is that reason for anyone to treat them with less respect, it's a toilet, what do you think is going to happen? Are there people who still think they have so much sex appeal, that they are going to get jumped on?

Watch this and get edumacated

https://youtu.be/PxJIGvb_EUM

Wind your neck in I asked your opinion on the matter I didn't pass judgement on it."

I never said you did, and don't tell me to wind my neck in, you asked for my opinion I gave my opinion, no need to be so fucking rude about it

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"i use the mens if i can't hold it in because the queues are shorter, nobody says anything.

not sure why toilets are separated by gender anyway? does anyone know why they did that?"

I see your point but out on the town late at night probably on your own would you feel comfortable walking in the gents?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They used to have separate swimming baths back in the Victorian times. Probably stemmed from that line of thinking. "

thanks. gonna have a google about victorian baths and segregation.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Identified gender, because unless there is a gender inspection on my he door then how are you gonna know, and just because someone is born in the wrong my body, is that reason for anyone to treat them with less respect, it's a toilet, what do you think is going to happen? Are there people who still think they have so much sex appeal, that they are going to get jumped on?

Watch this and get edumacated

https://youtu.be/PxJIGvb_EUM

Wind your neck in I asked your opinion on the matter I didn't pass judgement on it.

I never said you did, and don't tell me to wind my neck in, you asked for my opinion I gave my opinion, no need to be so fucking rude about it"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i use the mens if i can't hold it in because the queues are shorter, nobody says anything.

not sure why toilets are separated by gender anyway? does anyone know why they did that?

I see your point but out on the town late at night probably on your own would you feel comfortable walking in the gents? "

maybe. although i'd forgotten about glory holes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This whole law is just cosying up to the Christian right wing in the states.

It's about time we took the extremely religious to one side and said... Listen if it offends you... Tuff fucking luck

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"i use the mens if i can't hold it in because the queues are shorter, nobody says anything.

not sure why toilets are separated by gender anyway? does anyone know why they did that?

I see your point but out on the town late at night probably on your own would you feel comfortable walking in the gents?

maybe. although i'd forgotten about glory holes. "

Yep that thing coming through the wall might not be a toilet roll holder

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"i use the mens if i can't hold it in because the queues are shorter, nobody says anything.

not sure why toilets are separated by gender anyway? does anyone know why they did that?

I see your point but out on the town late at night probably on your own would you feel comfortable walking in the gents? "

Yep. Done it at twickers with about ten men standing at the urinals, done it at the train station afterwards cos the women's was across a bridge, done it all over the place and I always go to the toilet on my own

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

In my opinion maybe give them the option to use an "open "toilet /changing room. But by doing this is that discrimination?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i use the mens if i can't hold it in because the queues are shorter, nobody says anything.

not sure why toilets are separated by gender anyway? does anyone know why they did that?

I see your point but out on the town late at night probably on your own would you feel comfortable walking in the gents?

maybe. although i'd forgotten about glory holes.

Yep that thing coming through the wall might not be a toilet roll holder "

am sure most toilets don't have one really haha.

anyway wikipedia have a whole section on the history of toilet segregation. it's pretty interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urinary_segregation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Identified gender is I assume what happens with adults so it clearly should be the same for children.

I'm bot sure where political correctness comes in to that

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By *iSTARessWoman
over a year ago

London

Unisex lavs are the way forward

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it was an article I read about the history of the aberdeen bath house at the beach. It may have been on a plaque at the facility or may have been a news paper article. People used to go there to wash. Women one entrance and men the other.

So the women weren't caught in a state of undress heaven forbid the men saw a stockinged ankle.

My line of thought is separate bathrooms came from that.

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

My self and a group of ladies made a guy stand outside the mens toilets at a football match once ( no guys in there)

We were all desperate .....when u gotta go u gotta go ..... the ladies loos were rammed ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Unisex lavs are the way forward "

They have them in France

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Unisex lavs are the way forward "

disabled toilets are already unisex too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are they factoring in the amount of time it takes for women to use a toilet,wash her hands (men don't bother),and touch up hair and makeup?

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By *otblondewife hornyMrCouple
over a year ago

Cambuslang

Wonder if all these women that use men's toilets would be happy with a guy stoatin into the women's toilets?

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Queue jumpers

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

As long as it's at the back of the line that's fine. Not fair to jump to the front of the line

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This whole law is just cosying up to the Christian right wing in the states.

It's about time we took the extremely religious to one side and said... Listen if it offends you... Tuff fucking luck"

I agree with you here. And for anyone who doesn't think this is all about religion in the US, they should try having some of the conversations I've had since I landed in nyc. They would soon see the reality of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wonder if all these women that use men's toilets would be happy with a guy stoatin into the women's toilets?"
I wouldnt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whichever one they want too, but probably the one they identify with

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Identified gender, because unless there is a gender inspection on my he door then how are you gonna know, and just because someone is born in the wrong my body, is that reason for anyone to treat them with less respect, it's a toilet, what do you think is going to happen? Are there people who still think they have so much sex appeal, that they are going to get jumped on?

Watch this and get edumacated

https://youtu.be/PxJIGvb_EUM

"

Nobody is born in the wrong body. It's their body

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As long as it's at the back of the line that's fine. Not fair to jump to the front of the line"

Well done, this is the most English post I have ever seen, "I don't care if your male, female, or transgender, but we que in this country

I'm not having a go, it just reads like we English will accept any one as long as they don't que jump or put the milk in before the hot water lol

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"As long as it's at the back of the line that's fine. Not fair to jump to the front of the line

Well done, this is the most English post I have ever seen, "I don't care if your male, female, or transgender, but we que in this country

I'm not having a go, it just reads like we English will accept any one as long as they don't que jump or put the milk in before the hot water lol "

Thank you. Queue jumping is unforgivable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As long as it's at the back of the line that's fine. Not fair to jump to the front of the line

Well done, this is the most English post I have ever seen, "I don't care if your male, female, or transgender, but we que in this country

I'm not having a go, it just reads like we English will accept any one as long as they don't que jump or put the milk in before the hot water lol

Thank you. Queue jumping is unforgivable "

You might want to have a word with the old people of Birmingham then, I expected better from them

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

All this guidance is great but the girls I work with say they would feel uncomfortable with a TV or TS in their toilets

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By *longshottMan
over a year ago

Limerick


"All this guidance is great but the girls I work with say they would feel uncomfortable with a TV or TS in their toilets "

I would think so too that women in general would. I laugh a bit when women say they use the gents when ladies busy. Would they feel OK with men using the ladies too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All this guidance is great but the girls I work with say they would feel uncomfortable with a TV or TS in their toilets

I would think so too that women in general would. I laugh a bit when women say they use the gents when ladies busy. Would they feel OK with men using the ladies too."

so long as he's not taking an hour to have a shit.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular


"Unisex toilets all the way. Might teach boys how to use them properly."

Do you enjoy sitting on wet seats?

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By *woOfaKindCouple
over a year ago

Lancaster area

I certainly do not speak for the entire USA, so please take my opinion with a grain of salt.

I think that a lot of people over here still believe that any gay male or female is also a sexual deviant and pedofile. So you can only imagine what they think about transgende_ed people, cross dressers, or even bi-sexuals.

What I am trying to say is that anything other than a moderately religious heterosexual makes a lot of Americans nervous. They just don't know how to handle it, and in their minds, this whole bathroom thing is like having twisted freaks who are prone to commit sexual assaults in the same bathroom they are in....and they don't like it.

Again, that is not all Yanks opinions, or even most. But many people cannot fathom anything other than what they consider 'normal', so something like this causes uproar.

-JD

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I LOVE that the toilets in VA is for men and women, and whoever else!

It's just refreshing and a nice change. Same with Pink Punters too.

The only problem I have is when you want to disappear off to talk about a guy you like with a mate, you can't chat in the toilets any more because they might walk in! Doh.

Lots of women use chatting in the toilets to deal with emotional crises, and they don't want the guys to see it so I can see why people would oppose totally mixed toilets. But fuck 'em, it would solve the entire issue!

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