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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I was at a junction yesterday.when a girl cycling on the pavement came towards me ,head phones on and mobile phone in one hand,bang hit straight into me,i asked if she was ok ,and said ,why dont you use the cycle path on the other side of the road ,i got a load of abuse,she rode off,and when i got home my passenger door was all scratched,so inconsiderate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You're lucky you don't live in London.

I once saw a cyclist bang into someone's car and when the driver got out to confront the guy, who was riding a BMX, the biker kicked off his wing mirror.

Some are just pricks, I have no idea why.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With the finer weather they are all coming out to play, some ride two abreast on roads around us with lots of twisty corners

If you are overtaking cyclists two abreast and a car or lorry comes round the corner in other direction it sure can be dodgy for the cyclists, sure they have entitlement to cycle their bikes but common sense says single file on twisty roads

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With the finer weather they are all coming out to play, some ride two abreast on roads around us with lots of twisty corners

If you are overtaking cyclists two abreast and a car or lorry comes round the corner in other direction it sure can be dodgy for the cyclists, sure they have entitlement to cycle their bikes but common sense says single file on twisty roads"

Common sense would also say don't overtake on a corner, you use the same rules for overtaking cyclists as you would cars, why would you overtake them on a bend?

And yes SOME cyclist are giant cocks just as SOME car drivers, wagon drivers, motorcyclists take your pick are, it's not the mode of transport it's the person

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"With the finer weather they are all coming out to play, some ride two abreast on roads around us with lots of twisty corners

If you are overtaking cyclists two abreast and a car or lorry comes round the corner in other direction it sure can be dodgy for the cyclists, sure they have entitlement to cycle their bikes but common sense says single file on twisty roads"

Actually common sense is two a breast on twisty Roads to make them more visible to drivers. Same with horses, although once seen they should then move into single file to allow traffic to move round them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With the finer weather they are all coming out to play, some ride two abreast on roads around us with lots of twisty corners

If you are overtaking cyclists two abreast and a car or lorry comes round the corner in other direction it sure can be dodgy for the cyclists, sure they have entitlement to cycle their bikes but common sense says single file on twisty roads

Common sense would also say don't overtake on a corner, you use the same rules for overtaking cyclists as you would cars, why would you overtake them on a bend?

And yes SOME cyclist are giant cocks just as SOME car drivers, wagon drivers, motorcyclists take your pick are, it's not the mode of transport it's the person"

Well said I drive 50,000 miles a year and ride a bike 8,000 miles, and i see shocking behaviour by both on a near daily basis !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Two abreast is totally legal regardless of where they do it.

For years I thought you had to ride single file, then I looked it up and it's fine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm an avid cyclist and see people riding who should have their bike thrown in a skip. Large groups of cyclists who ride 2-3 abreast in one large pack and cyclists who filter through traffic without thinking about what vehicles may do are the 2 that get my back up

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Some are, some aren't...same as any group of people connected by one common interest.

There's a bloke in this area with a helmet cam who cycles up and down the seafront cutting motorists up, swerving in front of them etc and then when they stop subjecting them to a tirade of personal abuse. He did it to us and we've seen him do it to others including one very fit, very big young man who remained steadfastly polite in the face of extreme provocation (I would say the cyclist was goading him to hit him) and on being told he was being filmed and the police would be shown told the cyclist to do what he wanted because he'd be shown up for the fool he actually is.

The problem is its this chap we remember not all the ones who cycle within the highway code and cause no problems just like I remember the old fool who pulled out in front of me on the roundabout last night rather than all the other cars I encountered on my way home.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah, just like some car drivers are inconsiderate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm an avid cyclist and see people riding who should have their bike thrown in a skip. Large groups of cyclists who ride 2-3 abreast in one large pack and cyclists who filter through traffic without thinking about what vehicles may do are the 2 that get my back up"

Riding two or three abreast is how cyclists as supposed to ride. You should treat the group as a large vehicle like a bus. It means motorists don't squeeze past one or two at a time potentially splitting the group up and causing accidents when they either overtake or pull into the middle of the group.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With the finer weather they are all coming out to play, some ride two abreast on roads around us with lots of twisty corners

If you are overtaking cyclists two abreast and a car or lorry comes round the corner in other direction it sure can be dodgy for the cyclists, sure they have entitlement to cycle their bikes but common sense says single file on twisty roads"

You're a dangerous driver.

You should slow down and wait behind them until it is safe to pass. They sit two abreast to stop people like you passing them dangerously.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yeah, just like some car drivers are inconsiderate."

But at least car drivers when they crash into you have insurnace you can claim off.

Cyclists will generaly just ride off.

I do think there should be number plates for cyclists, as they become a larger part of our ever busier road network there needs to be more oversight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Common sense would also say don't overtake on a corner, you use the same rules for overtaking cyclists as you would cars, why would you overtake them on a bend?

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Come on son, on twisty roads you wait for a straight and take advantage of that small straight part of the road, but as you do that and ahead you see a truck or car come round the corner you are inclined to pull in

if it came to hitting a car, truck or cyclist, what would you prefer to hit if no option

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With the finer weather they are all coming out to play, some ride two abreast on roads around us with lots of twisty corners

If you are overtaking cyclists two abreast and a car or lorry comes round the corner in other direction it sure can be dodgy for the cyclists, sure they have entitlement to cycle their bikes but common sense says single file on twisty roads"

Don't overtake on blind corners then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone who listens to music whilst cycling is an utter idiot. The mr is a mad keen cyclist (did 400k in one day a couple of weeks ago!) and is often annoyed by the idiots who give cyclists a bad name...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Yeah, just like some car drivers are inconsiderate.

But at least car drivers when they crash into you have insurnace you can claim off.

Cyclists will generaly just ride off.

I do think there should be number plates for cyclists, as they become a larger part of our ever busier road network there needs to be more oversight "

Not all car drivers have insurance and the number that don't is going up as insurance premiums rise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Common sense would also say don't overtake on a corner, you use the same rules for overtaking cyclists as you would cars, why would you overtake them on a bend?

Come on son, on twisty roads you wait for a straight and take advantage of that small straight part of the road, but as you do that and ahead you see a truck or car come round the corner you are inclined to pull in

if it came to hitting a car, truck or cyclist, what would you prefer to hit if no option"

If you can't over take a cyclist on a straight without running out of room, either get a faster car or quit driving cause you suck at it.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


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Common sense would also say don't overtake on a corner, you use the same rules for overtaking cyclists as you would cars, why would you overtake them on a bend?

Come on son, on twisty roads you wait for a straight and take advantage of that small straight part of the road, but as you do that and ahead you see a truck or car come round the corner you are inclined to pull in

if it came to hitting a car, truck or cyclist, what would you prefer to hit if no option"

You can back off and pull back behind the cyclists then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Common sense would also say don't overtake on a corner, you use the same rules for overtaking cyclists as you would cars, why would you overtake them on a bend?

Come on son, on twisty roads you wait for a straight and take advantage of that small straight part of the road, but as you do that and ahead you see a truck or car come round the corner you are inclined to pull in

if it came to hitting a car, truck or cyclist, what would you prefer to hit if no option"

I'm increasingly of the opinion that some people shouldn't be allowed a driving license.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yeah, just like some car drivers are inconsiderate.

But at least car drivers when they crash into you have insurnace you can claim off.

Cyclists will generaly just ride off.

I do think there should be number plates for cyclists, as they become a larger part of our ever busier road network there needs to be more oversight

Not all car drivers have insurance and the number that don't is going up as insurance premiums rise. "

Yes but that would be a criminal offense and if caught they get thier car turned into a pretty little cube.

But also notice i didnt actually day bikes should have insurnace simply identity plates.

So that my insurnace company can happily pursue a personal claim against them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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I'm increasingly of the opinion that some people shouldn't be allowed a driving license."

Opinions are like ass holes, we all have one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Common sense would also say don't overtake on a corner, you use the same rules for overtaking cyclists as you would cars, why would you overtake them on a bend?

Come on son, on twisty roads you wait for a straight and take advantage of that small straight part of the road, but as you do that and ahead you see a truck or car come round the corner you are inclined to pull in

if it came to hitting a car, truck or cyclist, what would you prefer to hit if no option

I'm increasingly of the opinion that some people shouldn't be allowed a driving license."

Im thinking i might have to take back my spacial awarenes quip...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What bugs me is that can just ride on the roads.

No licence,road tax or insurance needed.

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By *atcoupleCouple
over a year ago

Suffolk - East Anglia

Cyclists fall into different groups, some serious road cyclists, some off roaders and some urban commuters. To generalise them all is like making generalised comments about all taxi drivers, lorry drivers, BMW drivers etc. There is good and bad in all.

To put the OP's incident into a cyclist group is not right, yes some are rude, inconsiderate or down right dangerous but you could also categorise the cyclist into an age group, person from that locality group, or sex group.

I do sympathise with the OP over her incident, the cyclist needs finding (probably impossible now) and prosecuting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Common sense would also say don't overtake on a corner, you use the same rules for overtaking cyclists as you would cars, why would you overtake them on a bend?

Come on son, on twisty roads you wait for a straight and take advantage of that small straight part of the road, but as you do that and ahead you see a truck or car come round the corner you are inclined to pull in

if it came to hitting a car, truck or cyclist, what would you prefer to hit if no option"

Firstly I'm not your son, how condescending can you be?

Secondly have a look at all the replies below mine they all say the same thing, you are a dangerous driver and now admitting to choosing to hit cyclist, if you wouldn't overtake a vehicle in that situation DO NOT overtake cyclists

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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If you can't over take a cyclist on a straight without running out of room, either get a faster car or quit driving cause you suck at it.

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You ever driven on a twisty road, oh wait you think the North is Chester lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What bugs me is that can just ride on the roads.

No licence,road tax or insurance needed."

A driving license is mostly to make sure you are safe in charge of a ton of vehicle traveling at 70mph.

And bikes don't damage the roads like one ton lumps of metal do.

And largely it's not the cyclists that need insurance to claim against (some very frequent cyclists do hold insurance).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Firstly I'm not your son, how condescending can you be?

Secondly have a look at all the replies below mine they all say the same thing, you are a dangerous driver and now admitting to choosing to hit cyclist, if you wouldn't overtake a vehicle in that situation DO NOT overtake cyclists"

listen son

I guess its too early for you this morning, but the fish sure are bitine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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If you can't over take a cyclist on a straight without running out of room, either get a faster car or quit driving cause you suck at it.

You ever driven on a twisty road, oh wait you think the North is Chester lol "

Yeah i live in north wales...

but then i ride a motorbike so have personaly never had a problem with not being able to get the speed to over take cyclists.

I find the concept bewildering if I'm honest.

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue

I've been cycling most of my life and I have to say in recent years there's a lot of twats with no road sense at all that seem to have taken to two wheels.and as for the red light jumpers at road junctions ..don't even get me started on them. .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What bugs me is that can just ride on the roads.

No licence,road tax or insurance needed.

A driving license is mostly to make sure you are safe in charge of a ton of vehicle traveling at 70mph.

And bikes don't damage the roads like one ton lumps of metal do.

And largely it's not the cyclists that need insurance to claim against (some very frequent cyclists do hold insurance)."

do you need a different license if you are driving a Hilux? (3+ ton)

sorry couldn't resist, just feel like a piss take this morning

have you replied to college fees yet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Yeah i live in north wales...

but then i ride a motorbike so have personaly never had a problem with not being able to get the speed to over take cyclists.

I find the concept bewildering if I'm honest.

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have to ask?

what bike you have

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By *inkyandperky555Couple
over a year ago

swansea

They seam to have real attitude on the roads and are a pain we pay a lot of money to use the roads they should pay have some sort of number plate and deffonety have road insurance

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


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And yes SOME cyclist are giant cocks just as SOME car drivers, wagon drivers, motorcyclists take your pick are, it's not the mode of transport it's the person"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I cycle to work all year round and the amount of times cars put me in danger overtaking on bends, not giving enough room when they pass me, cutting me up, pulling out on me is ridiculous.

There are good and bad cyclists and the same with car drivers.

If everyone just showed a bit more consideration for each other

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a cyclist and just a pitty I can't put vidio coments up here to show cars pulling out on me mainly taxis though are the worst but I tend to be more careful on the road as I also drive and can see it from both sides and dome cyclists are just so dangerous but some drivers are to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They seam to have real attitude on the roads and are a pain we pay a lot of money to use the roads they should pay have some sort of number plate and deffonety have road insurance "

I have insurance on my bike????? and dont have an attitude I just ride my bike, far more inconsiderate car drivers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not all cyclists are idiots but there are extreme idiots amongst them. No different to the majority of road user groups.

I have been saying for years cyclists over 16 should have a proficiency licence, pay a minimal tax towards all their cycle lanes, have insurance and each bike ahould have an annual version of the MOT.

However, all London bus drivers are pricks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not all cyclists are idiots but there are extreme idiots amongst them. ."

TRUE

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I forgot to add. Cyclists with cameras on their heads, dicks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What bugs me is that can just ride on the roads.

No licence,road tax or insurance needed.

A driving license is mostly to make sure you are safe in charge of a ton of vehicle traveling at 70mph.

And bikes don't damage the roads like one ton lumps of metal do.

And largely it's not the cyclists that need insurance to claim against (some very frequent cyclists do hold insurance).

do you need a different license if you are driving a Hilux? (3+ ton)

sorry couldn't resist, just feel like a piss take this morning

have you replied to college fees yet "

Missed that one ...

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France


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Common sense would also say don't overtake on a corner, you use the same rules for overtaking cyclists as you would cars, why would you overtake them on a bend?

Come on son, on twisty roads you wait for a straight and take advantage of that small straight part of the road, but as you do that and ahead you see a truck or car come round the corner you are inclined to pull in

if it came to hitting a car, truck or cyclist, what would you prefer to hit if no option"

Which proves that you are a dangerous driver.

You don't perform the overtake unless you know you can complete it safely within the distance that you can see.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a runner and get so frustrated having to run in the road because cyclists use the pavement!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The majority of cyclist are fine but it's the minority that give them a bad name I think, same as people who ride motorbikes. Most days when driving to work I regularly see them going through red lights, these are adults that probably also drive cars so God knows why they think it's ok to do so as they wouldn't dream of doing it in a car.....

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't read the whole thread. But sone people are dicks. Their mode of transport neither defines nor influences it. Idiot cyclists are also idiot motorists and probably pretty shit at being a pedestrian too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Adolescent boys on bikes are the biggest danger to us and themselves around my way. They think they are invincible and that we can quickly dodge them as they hurtle across a road. In general,the cyclists I've seen have been quite road aware. I remember one summer,3 boys being hit by cars because they weren't looking,one died and one was seriously injured.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also while I could give hundreds of examples of shit motorists, that in no way negates examples of bad cycling I've seen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Also while I could give hundreds of examples of shit motorists, that in no way negates examples of bad cycling I've seen"

I see it every day,as more and more traffic uses the roads. Being a pedestrian is sometimes a harrowing experience.

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By *rnortholtMan
over a year ago

Waveney Valley

I'm a cyclist and a car driver so I see numpties on both sides.

Some organised bike groups though, do take the piss.

The other day, I found myself driving behind a non competitive group through the Oxfordshire countryside. They were well organised with motorcycle marshals etc.

The only problem was they ended up spread out over a quarter of a mile or more of road and effectively became a rolling road-block for about five miles until our routes diverged.

It's all about respect for others. When I'm on four wheels, I give cyclists and horse riders the space they need rather than the space they physically occupy. On two wheels, I'm aware I'm sharing the space with others and while I have a right to the road it's not mine alone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Traffic lights at junctions is where I have seen the worse behaviour by both cyclists and drivers,and most accidents.

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area


"I cycle to work all year round and the amount of times cars put me in danger overtaking on bends, not giving enough room when they pass me, cutting me up, pulling out on me is ridiculous.

There are good and bad cyclists and the same with car drivers.

If everyone just showed a bit more consideration for each other"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Yeah i live in north wales...

but then i ride a motorbike so have personaly never had a problem with not being able to get the speed to over take cyclists.

I find the concept bewildering if I'm honest.

have to ask?

what bike you have"

Honda blackbird

Previous were cbr600, r6, vfr800

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes there are idiots for both sets of people, I see drivers doing some of the stupidest things ever.

But since I started working in central London I have seen some crazy cyclists. Near enough daily I see 2 maybe 3 cyclists just go straight through red lights or across a zebra crossing regardless of who is crossing. (Not that long ago a thread appeared about rude drivers doing the same). Just yesterday as I crossed the road outside st Pancras station a cyclist couldn't be bothered to wait for the lights to change so went straight on the pavement nearly running into me. Why is it OK for this to happen imagine if a car done the same thing?

I have no issues with cyclists as such many are great and look out for other road users and pedestrians. I do have issues with pricks who think they can do what they want, like the kids who wheelie down the road in front of buses or cars.

The problem I see on threads like this is too many people think it's one group or the other, most drivers blame cyclists but fail to see what other drivers do. And cyclists blame car drivers but never see the idiots who do the stupid things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Cyclists fall into different groups, some serious road cyclists, some off roaders and some urban commuters. To generalise them all is like making generalised comments about all taxi drivers, lorry drivers, BMW drivers etc. There is good and bad in all.

To put the OP's incident into a cyclist group is not right, yes some are rude, inconsiderate or down right dangerous but you could also categorise the cyclist into an age group, person from that locality group, or sex group.

I do sympathise with the OP over her incident, the cyclist needs finding (probably impossible now) and prosecuting."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People keep saying about road fund liecence (car tax) do you know where this money goes try looking into it before you use it agenst cyclists the couch tax we pay goes towards road repairs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You're lucky you don't live in London.

I once saw a cyclist bang into someone's car and when the driver got out to confront the guy, who was riding a BMX, the biker kicked off his wing mirror.

Some are just pricks, I have no idea why."
I agree cyclists in London are rude aggressive and ignore red lights and the last Mayor spent a lot of money on try to segregate the blighters and they still ride on the pavement .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Bristol is just as bad ,we have a cycle path right opposite my house,and what do they do,cycle along the pavement outside the house ,my mum who is ,89 has been abused many times by them,shouting at her to move out of the way,so bloody disrespectful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The solution, not an easy one, is to keep cyclists and cars/wagons apart.

If we had space or stated with a clean sheet, there should be cycle lanes that are physically separated from motorised forms of transport.

There would be many more people who would cycle rather than use the car, congestion, pollution and obesity would fall and the nations overall health would rise.

A big task, but not an impossible one.

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By *otblondewife hornyMrCouple
over a year ago

Cambuslang

Like drivers some are ok and some are wankers, I've had a few run ins with cyclists that really do believe the world revolves around them. Quite a lot of them are arrogant pompous arseholes and more should be done to ensure they are following the rules.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Like drivers some are ok and some are wankers, I've had a few run ins with cyclists that really do believe the world revolves around them. Quite a lot of them are arrogant pompous arseholes and more should be done to ensure they are following the rules."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They seam to have real attitude on the roads and are a pain we pay a lot of money to use the roads they should pay have some sort of number plate and deffonety have road insurance "

What money do you pay to use the roads? Up keep of the roads come out of your council tax, cyclists pay that, car tax is no.your fuel consumption you don't want to pay that buy a smaller car, i have a pushbike and 2 cars so pay just as much as the next person, i do however agree with insurance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not all cyclists are idiots but there are extreme idiots amongst them. No different to the majority of road user groups.

I have been saying for years cyclists over 16 should have a proficiency licence, pay a minimal tax towards all their cycle lanes, have insurance and each bike ahould have an annual version of the MOT.

However, all London bus drivers are pricks."

Wh agree with the mot and insurance, but I am off the opinion any new driver should have to do 10 hours accompanied cycling before they are even allowed behind a wheel, just so they know the dangers a cyclists faces

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Today I witnessed a cyclist on a mountain bike stop at a red traffic signal.

I'm still in shock.....

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"Traffic lights at junctions is where I have seen the worse behaviour by both cyclists and drivers,and most accidents. "

Motorised vehicles that speed up to get through lights before they change and end up going through on red well above the speed limit should be jailed. It is not just about going through on red but what would then subsequently happen in a high speed collision with a pedestrian, cyclist or motorcyclist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are bad cyclists the same as bad drivers. I do understand why cyclists don't always use cycle paths are some are so badly maintained.

I wish more wore helmets though !

Sarah

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By *amesB66Man
over a year ago

St Peter Port

I own a car, ride a bike and walk on pavements. I enjoy all 3. Happy Tuesday everyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some cyclist are a fecking pain, cycling in this morning, a women in front of me went through a red light! Dodging traffic just to get across the junction, I follow the Highway Code when cycling, you're on the road, you have to obide by the rules, seems some cyclists think they're immortal though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And Mr G will tell you, a fit road cyclist in all the kit - will always get my attention.

Sarah

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The solution, not an easy one, is to keep cyclists and cars/wagons apart.

If we had space or stated with a clean sheet, there should be cycle lanes that are physically separated from motorised forms of transport.

There would be many more people who would cycle rather than use the car, congestion, pollution and obesity would fall and the nations overall health would rise.

A big task, but not an impossible one. "

A lot of the problems come down to infrastructure.

It doesn't help when you get something like the new Bradford/Leeds cycle path which is pretty much a waste of 18 million pounds as it's laughably bad in places

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By *llen n SebbCouple
over a year ago

Walkinstown


"With the finer weather they are all coming out to play, some ride two abreast on roads around us with lots of twisty corners

If you are overtaking cyclists two abreast and a car or lorry comes round the corner in other direction it sure can be dodgy for the cyclists, sure they have entitlement to cycle their bikes but common sense says single file on twisty roads"

What's the issue with passing 2abreast cyclists ?

Same as passing a car.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The solution, not an easy one, is to keep cyclists and cars/wagons apart.

If we had space or stated with a clean sheet, there should be cycle lanes that are physically separated from motorised forms of transport.

There would be many more people who would cycle rather than use the car, congestion, pollution and obesity would fall and the nations overall health would rise.

A big task, but not an impossible one.

A lot of the problems come down to infrastructure.

It doesn't help when you get something like the new Bradford/Leeds cycle path which is pretty much a waste of 18 million pounds as it's laughably bad in places"

There is a cycle lane in Halifax which just finishes and you have to jump off the pavement in to a 50Mph duel carriageway, it is bloody dangerous,and a waste of money

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some cyclist are a fecking pain, cycling in this morning, a women in front of me went through a red light! Dodging traffic just to get across the junction, I follow the Highway Code when cycling, you're on the road, you have to obide by the rules, seems some cyclists think they're immortal though "

To me there are two types of people who ride bikes

Cyclists and knob heads

Cyclists tend to stay on the road and follow the high way code, knob heads are the ones who just use a bike to get to where they are going and will jump lights ,flit between road and pathway to suit themselves and generally just not watch what they are doing

Saying that no matter how well you ride a bike some car drivers are just inconsiderate, I've lost count of the amount of times I've had car doors open on me when I have past them, cars over taking me coming upto a left turn and them just cutting right infront of me to take the turn, only last week I was knocked off my bike over taking a parked car the car behind be didn't leave me room so as I pulled out to over take the car he ran straight into me, then had the nerve to get out and shout abuse at me while I was still on the floor, it was only when an onlooker came over and told him it was his fault not mine he got in his car and drove off

Sometimes you can be as carefully as possible it don't mean your safe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

50 points for each cyclist run down. See who has the most points by the end of the day

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By *llen n SebbCouple
over a year ago

Walkinstown


"50 points for each cyclist run down. See who has the most points by the end of the day "

I play a similar game with wing mirrors.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"50 points for each cyclist run down. See who has the most points by the end of the day "

That's not even close to being funny. Or in anyway appropriate. Your attitude towards other road users sucks

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS
over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford

yes well there's stupid rude cyclists and stupid rude drivers ,tho the latter are far more dangerous .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"50 points for each cyclist run down. See who has the most points by the end of the day "

There's always one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"50 points for each cyclist run down. See who has the most points by the end of the day

That's not even close to being funny. Or in anyway appropriate. Your attitude towards other road users sucks"

Did you think it was a serious suggestion?

Really?

Come on now.........

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By *otblondewife hornyMrCouple
over a year ago

Cambuslang

There are a lot more cars than bikes, never been hit by a car, have been hit by a couple of bikes. The cyclist came off worse though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"50 points for each cyclist run down. See who has the most points by the end of the day

That's not even close to being funny. Or in anyway appropriate. Your attitude towards other road users sucks

Did you think it was a serious suggestion?

Really?

Come on now........."

I thought it was a moronic attempt at humour. But it undoubtedly reveals a lot about how the poster views cyclists

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some cyclists give others a bad rep, same as some drivers give others a bad rep.

If all stick to the highway code and ride , drive responsibly, then I can't see how they could be a problem.

All depends on the individuals, whether in a car or on a bike.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"50 points for each cyclist run down. See who has the most points by the end of the day

That's not even close to being funny. Or in anyway appropriate. Your attitude towards other road users sucks

Did you think it was a serious suggestion?

Really?

Come on now.........

I thought it was a moronic attempt at humour. But it undoubtedly reveals a lot about how the poster views cyclists "

It also reveals a lot about the people who get wound up by it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Back to cyclists.

The young lady in her slightly see through cycle shorts I was fortunate enough to have to follow across Clapham Common on my way to work was a credit to all cyclists

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"50 points for each cyclist run down. See who has the most points by the end of the day

That's not even close to being funny. Or in anyway appropriate. Your attitude towards other road users sucks

Did you think it was a serious suggestion?

Really?

Come on now.........

I thought it was a moronic attempt at humour. But it undoubtedly reveals a lot about how the poster views cyclists

It also reveals a lot about the people who get wound up by it "

Obviously

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Drivers are just as bad in my opinion. I had a guy overtake me and then took a left turn immediately. If I didn't break I would end up ramming straight into the back of his car.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"50 points for each cyclist run down. See who has the most points by the end of the day

That's not even close to being funny. Or in anyway appropriate. Your attitude towards other road users sucks

Did you think it was a serious suggestion?

Really?

Come on now.........

I thought it was a moronic attempt at humour. But it undoubtedly reveals a lot about how the poster views cyclists

It also reveals a lot about the people who get wound up by it "

I'm not wound up by it. But having been hit by motorists and having friends that have been killed by motorists I don't see the humour in that sort of comment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drivers are just as bad in my opinion. I had a guy overtake me and then took a left turn immediately. If I didn't break I would end up ramming straight into the back of his car."

I have that almost on a daily basis

It you was in a car they would hold back while you pass the turn then turn off but because your on a bike your just in the way so they over take and cut you up

It's the biggest thing that pisses me off and its amazing how many drivers do it

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)


"The solution, not an easy one, is to keep cyclists and cars/wagons apart.

If we had space or stated with a clean sheet, there should be cycle lanes that are physically separated from motorised forms of transport.

There would be many more people who would cycle rather than use the car, congestion, pollution and obesity would fall and the nations overall health would rise.

A big task, but not an impossible one.

A lot of the problems come down to infrastructure.

It doesn't help when you get something like the new Bradford/Leeds cycle path which is pretty much a waste of 18 million pounds as it's laughably bad in places"

The total cost of the first phase is 30million, 18 from central government and the remainder from the local councils.. phase two is planned and costedat about the same price and yep it's as bad as phase 1

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drivers are just as bad in my opinion. I had a guy overtake me and then took a left turn immediately. If I didn't break I would end up ramming straight into the back of his car.

I have that almost on a daily basis

It you was in a car they would hold back while you pass the turn then turn off but because your on a bike your just in the way so they over take and cut you up

It's the biggest thing that pisses me off and its amazing how many drivers do it "

Also very dangerous. Other thing being, overtaking halfway then pushing you to the kerb when the street gets narrow for a few feet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drivers are just as bad in my opinion. I had a guy overtake me and then took a left turn immediately. If I didn't break I would end up ramming straight into the back of his car.

I have that almost on a daily basis

It you was in a car they would hold back while you pass the turn then turn off but because your on a bike your just in the way so they over take and cut you up

It's the biggest thing that pisses me off and its amazing how many drivers do it "

I always anticipate this kind of behaviour, happened this morning, a Mitsubishi pulled into a petrol station and he hadn't even fully overtaken me, forcing me to turn into the bloody thing myself, i just shook my head and carried on, pointless confronting knob jockies like that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drivers are just as bad in my opinion. I had a guy overtake me and then took a left turn immediately. If I didn't break I would end up ramming straight into the back of his car.

I have that almost on a daily basis

It you was in a car they would hold back while you pass the turn then turn off but because your on a bike your just in the way so they over take and cut you up

It's the biggest thing that pisses me off and its amazing how many drivers do it

Also very dangerous. Other thing being, overtaking halfway then pushing you to the kerb when the street gets narrow for a few feet."

Another thing that pisses me off it when on coming cars don't give you the right of way because the blockages is on their side they just over take the parked cars and force you into the pavement because their isnt enough room for the two of you

I like this game

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I normally fight to cyclist corner but recently it isn't worth it.

I have been in Brighton for about3 years, in that short space of time I have seen so many idiots.

Red light jumpers, when you nearly hit them they give you a mouthful of abuse.

People at night with no lights on, riding on the road some even riding into on coming traffic. Same reaction when you say something.

Cyclists going round the outside of you in traffic, then mouthing off when you pull away. I try to point out that it is the responsibility of the person doing the overtaking to ensure it is safe to do so.

As for cycling more than single file, it appears they can ride 4 abreast. I did film them and refer to their club rules when I posted it on Facebook.

As someone said earlier, sadly there are assholes everywhere. It seems to me that mutual respect has well and truly over.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drivers are just as bad in my opinion. I had a guy overtake me and then took a left turn immediately. If I didn't break I would end up ramming straight into the back of his car.

I have that almost on a daily basis

It you was in a car they would hold back while you pass the turn then turn off but because your on a bike your just in the way so they over take and cut you up

It's the biggest thing that pisses me off and its amazing how many drivers do it

Also very dangerous. Other thing being, overtaking halfway then pushing you to the kerb when the street gets narrow for a few feet.

Another thing that pisses me off it when on coming cars don't give you the right of way because the blockages is on their side they just over take the parked cars and force you into the pavement because their isnt enough room for the two of you

I like this game "

Haha, yeah they treat you like a bug only because they're a big bad car which is so superior to any bike...

Though nothing compares to bus drivers, they will overtake you and stop 10 feet in front to pick up people from the bus stop. You can't usually overtake them either if there is no cycle path!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people are inconsiderate no matter how the travel about. in the OP's case, next time you get hit by a cyclist the their name and address, they may not have insurance but are still legally liable for damages to you or your car. So you could have had the damage repaired.

If more people pursued legit claims against cyclists then that may make more of them more aware that they live in a society and are liable for their actions.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

well it seems most folks have a opinion based on self interest dependent on their prefered mode of transport, but what is the practcal solution to all of this bickering of bits of tarmac?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"well it seems most folks have a opinion based on self interest dependent on their prefered mode of transport, but what is the practcal solution to all of this bickering of bits of tarmac?"

Really? Most posts seem to acknowledge there are hood and bad cyclists just like there are good and bad motorists

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago


"well it seems most folks have a opinion based on self interest dependent on their prefered mode of transport, but what is the practcal solution to all of this bickering of bits of tarmac?

Really? Most posts seem to acknowledge there are hood and bad cyclists just like there are good and bad motorists "

and your thoughts on a practical solution?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"well it seems most folks have a opinion based on self interest dependent on their prefered mode of transport, but what is the practcal solution to all of this bickering of bits of tarmac?"

The answer is common courtesy, cyclist are allowed to ride 2 abreast but if they just pulled to single file when safe to let cars passed it would ease their anger, and if cars just hung on for a couple of minutes until it was safe to pass, the world would be a better place

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people are inconsiderate no matter how the travel about."

Yeah!!

Let's discuss those fuckers on the back seat of the bus playing music out loud!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was once riding on a country lane full of tight bends, a car came up behind me stayed a safe distance back didn't try to force his way round, i got to to bend could see round and up the road, i waved the car driver passed he passed me safely gave me a little toot on his horn I gave him a wave, everyone safe and probably cost him 30 seconds, how cycling and cars should work together

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"well it seems most folks have a opinion based on self interest dependent on their prefered mode of transport, but what is the practcal solution to all of this bickering of bits of tarmac?"

Read the highway code?! Maybe if more people understood what each other was doing and why. Most probably haven't read it since they had their tests.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago


"well it seems most folks have a opinion based on self interest dependent on their prefered mode of transport, but what is the practcal solution to all of this bickering of bits of tarmac?

The answer is common courtesy, cyclist are allowed to ride 2 abreast but if they just pulled to single file when safe to let cars passed it would ease their anger, and if cars just hung on for a couple of minutes until it was safe to pass, the world would be a better place"

yep, good ..... any other ideas?

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago


"well it seems most folks have a opinion based on self interest dependent on their prefered mode of transport, but what is the practcal solution to all of this bickering of bits of tarmac?

Read the highway code?! Maybe if more people understood what each other was doing and why. Most probably haven't read it since they had their tests. "

yep ..... keep them comming

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"50 points for each cyclist run down. See who has the most points by the end of the day

That's not even close to being funny. Or in anyway appropriate. Your attitude towards other road users sucks

Did you think it was a serious suggestion?

Really?

Come on now.........

I thought it was a moronic attempt at humour. But it undoubtedly reveals a lot about how the poster views cyclists "

I thought your reply was funnier to be honest.

But I do appreciate why you took that posture. Nuff said.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

As a car user,if i go through a traffic light,i get a fine,if i speed i get a fine,if i get caught on a mobile ,i get a fine,if i have no lights ,a fine,so why if youre a cyclist you can you go through a red light,use a mobile,have no lights ,the number of times ive been driving at night and ive nearly hit a cyclist with no lights at all,its dangerous.I am only saying this about the minority,not the majority .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a car user,if i go through a traffic light,i get a fine,if i speed i get a fine,if i get caught on a mobile ,i get a fine,if i have no lights ,a fine,so why if youre a cyclist you can you go through a red light,use a mobile,have no lights ,the number of times ive been driving at night and ive nearly hit a cyclist with no lights at all,its dangerous.I am only saying this about the minority,not the majority ."

Saying that I was going home a few nights ago when a young 20+ guy was cycling fast on the pavement, right behind me was a police van, they done fuck all but followed me. If the police won't do anything why would a cyclist change their attitude.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i stick to pavements on my fixie 90% of the time

ive never hit anyone yet but had plenty telling me to fck off

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By *otblondewife hornyMrCouple
over a year ago

Cambuslang


"i stick to pavements on my fixie 90% of the time

ive never hit anyone yet but had plenty telling me to fck off "
in such circumstances I find that an outstretched arm about cyclist throat height tends to do the trick.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a car user,if i go through a traffic light,i get a fine,if i speed i get a fine,if i get caught on a mobile ,i get a fine,if i have no lights ,a fine,so why if youre a cyclist you can you go through a red light,use a mobile,have no lights ,the number of times ive been driving at night and ive nearly hit a cyclist with no lights at all,its dangerous.I am only saying this about the minority,not the majority ."

All them things are still illegal on a bike, except using your mobile which for some reason is legal,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i stick to pavements on my fixie 90% of the time

ive never hit anyone yet but had plenty telling me to fck off in such circumstances I find that an outstretched arm about cyclist throat height tends to do the trick."

i wouldnt advise that to anyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a car user,if i go through a traffic light,i get a fine,if i speed i get a fine,if i get caught on a mobile ,i get a fine,if i have no lights ,a fine,so why if youre a cyclist you can you go through a red light,use a mobile,have no lights ,the number of times ive been driving at night and ive nearly hit a cyclist with no lights at all,its dangerous.I am only saying this about the minority,not the majority .

All them things are still illegal on a bike, except using your mobile which for some reason is legal,"

And there are examples of people being fined for all of them just like there are examples of motorists getting away with the same misdemeanours

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i stick to pavements on my fixie 90% of the time

ive never hit anyone yet but had plenty telling me to fck off in such circumstances I find that an outstretched arm about cyclist throat height tends to do the trick.

i wouldnt advise that to anyone "

In fairness I wouldn't wait for advice.

Had a cyclist on a busy pavement at the weekend while I had my 5 year old with me. The cyclist had an unfortunate collison with a wall.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i stick to pavements on my fixie 90% of the time

ive never hit anyone yet but had plenty telling me to fck off in such circumstances I find that an outstretched arm about cyclist throat height tends to do the trick.

i wouldnt advise that to anyone

In fairness I wouldn't wait for advice.

Had a cyclist on a busy pavement at the weekend while I had my 5 year old with me. The cyclist had an unfortunate collison with a wall."

if they were speeding along recklessly then fair shout

the roads are for speed i just cruise on pavements

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i stick to pavements on my fixie 90% of the time

ive never hit anyone yet but had plenty telling me to fck off in such circumstances I find that an outstretched arm about cyclist throat height tends to do the trick."

Oh really and I bet I know who the law would be more intrested in talking to you or the cyclist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i stick to pavements on my fixie 90% of the time

ive never hit anyone yet but had plenty telling me to fck off in such circumstances I find that an outstretched arm about cyclist throat height tends to do the trick.

i wouldnt advise that to anyone

In fairness I wouldn't wait for advice.

Had a cyclist on a busy pavement at the weekend while I had my 5 year old with me. The cyclist had an unfortunate collison with a wall.

if they were speeding along recklessly then fair shout

the roads are for speed i just cruise on pavements

"

It is illegal to ride on the pavement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i stick to pavements on my fixie 90% of the time

ive never hit anyone yet but had plenty telling me to fck off in such circumstances I find that an outstretched arm about cyclist throat height tends to do the trick.

i wouldnt advise that to anyone

In fairness I wouldn't wait for advice.

Had a cyclist on a busy pavement at the weekend while I had my 5 year old with me. The cyclist had an unfortunate collison with a wall.

if they were speeding along recklessly then fair shout

the roads are for speed i just cruise on pavements

It is illegal to ride on the pavement"

the police have never stopped me and ive ridden by plenty on the pavement

when they see you are riding at near enough walking speeds they dont hassle you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The solution, not an easy one, is to keep cyclists and cars/wagons apart.

If we had space or stated with a clean sheet, there should be cycle lanes that are physically separated from motorised forms of transport.

There would be many more people who would cycle rather than use the car, congestion, pollution and obesity would fall and the nations overall health would rise.

A big task, but not an impossible one. "

Where i live there are cycle paths that are physically seperated from motorised forms of traffic ... 90% of cyclists still use the road rather than the cycle path !!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We want more cyclists though don't we, as they create less pollution? I prefer a bad cyclist to those 4 X 4 drivers who create lots of pollution for a 10 minute drive. Most don't even live where they need to use the fact it's a 4 x 4!

Sarah

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The solution, not an easy one, is to keep cyclists and cars/wagons apart.

If we had space or stated with a clean sheet, there should be cycle lanes that are physically separated from motorised forms of transport.

There would be many more people who would cycle rather than use the car, congestion, pollution and obesity would fall and the nations overall health would rise.

A big task, but not an impossible one.

Where i live there are cycle paths that are physically seperated from motorised forms of traffic ... 90% of cyclists still use the road rather than the cycle path !!!!"

See my earlier post about the Leeds/Bradford cycle path, it's no good putting shit infrastructure in place as it won't get used.

My commute is 14 miles and I use cycle paths for some of it but there are others I ignore as they aren't safe or practical.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In some respects cycle paths are much like public transport in that if it's not fit for purpose people simply will use other options

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

I lived at Elephant & Castle for 17 yrs, 6 floors up above the roundabout.

I appreciate that everyone believes the laws of the road don't apply to them but the number of accidents or near-accidents I witnessed between bikes and cars, bikes and buses, bikes and lorries, bikes and pedestrians and bikes and bikes...

Bicyclists are the worst road offenders, imo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In some respects cycle paths are much like public transport in that if it's not fit for purpose people simply will use other options "

When cyclists pay road tax on each bike they can moan, until they do no one gives a shit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In some respects cycle paths are much like public transport in that if it's not fit for purpose people simply will use other options

When cyclists pay road tax on each bike they can moan, until they do no one gives a shit."

You clearly do give a shit You were moaning about pavement cyclists a handful of posts ago

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

I see so many cyclists without crash helmets...why??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I lived at Elephant & Castle for 17 yrs, 6 floors up above the roundabout.

I appreciate that everyone believes the laws of the road don't apply to them but the number of accidents or near-accidents I witnessed between bikes and cars, bikes and buses, bikes and lorries, bikes and pedestrians and bikes and bikes...

Bicyclists are the worst road offenders, imo"

But that junction is notorious for how dangerous it is so probably not the most objective place to make such an assessment. I hated riding round it and avoided it whenever possiblr and i know many cyclists that do the same

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"well it seems most folks have a opinion based on self interest dependent on their prefered mode of transport, but what is the practcal solution to all of this bickering of bits of tarmac?"

Quite simple really, it's my bit of road everyone else is trespasing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In some respects cycle paths are much like public transport in that if it's not fit for purpose people simply will use other options

When cyclists pay road tax on each bike they can moan, until they do no one gives a shit.

You clearly do give a shit You were moaning about pavement cyclists a handful of posts ago "

He should use the road.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"well it seems most folks have a opinion based on self interest dependent on their prefered mode of transport, but what is the practcal solution to all of this bickering of bits of tarmac?

Quite simple really, it's my bit of road everyone else is trespasing "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In some respects cycle paths are much like public transport in that if it's not fit for purpose people simply will use other options

When cyclists pay road tax on each bike they can moan, until they do no one gives a shit."

Again read above, nobody pays road tax, roads are maintain through council tax,

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"I lived at Elephant & Castle for 17 yrs, 6 floors up above the roundabout.

I appreciate that everyone believes the laws of the road don't apply to them but the number of accidents or near-accidents I witnessed between bikes and cars, bikes and buses, bikes and lorries, bikes and pedestrians and bikes and bikes...

Bicyclists are the worst road offenders, imo

But that junction is notorious for how dangerous it is so probably not the most objective place to make such an assessment. I hated riding round it and avoided it whenever possiblr and i know many cyclists that do the same "

It is extremely dangerous and the rejigging of it is wall to wall fuckery...

But - over 17 years I had a lot of time to watch the traffic. My assertion stands.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I lived at Elephant & Castle for 17 yrs, 6 floors up above the roundabout.

I appreciate that everyone believes the laws of the road don't apply to them but the number of accidents or near-accidents I witnessed between bikes and cars, bikes and buses, bikes and lorries, bikes and pedestrians and bikes and bikes...

Bicyclists are the worst road offenders, imo

But that junction is notorious for how dangerous it is so probably not the most objective place to make such an assessment. I hated riding round it and avoided it whenever possiblr and i know many cyclists that do the same "

It's even worse now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In some respects cycle paths are much like public transport in that if it's not fit for purpose people simply will use other options

When cyclists pay road tax on each bike they can moan, until they do no one gives a shit.

Again read above, nobody pays road tax, roads are maintain through council tax, "

I pay road tax. It's that road tax thingy car, van and lorry owners pay. The name of it escapes me at the moment...... oh, yeah ROAD TAX (also known as vehicle tax)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In some respects cycle paths are much like public transport in that if it's not fit for purpose people simply will use other options

When cyclists pay road tax on each bike they can moan, until they do no one gives a shit.

Again read above, nobody pays road tax, roads are maintain through council tax,

I pay road tax. It's that road tax thingy car, van and lorry owners pay. The name of it escapes me at the moment...... oh, yeah ROAD TAX (also known as vehicle tax) "

Just because you call it road tax doesn't make it road tax, it is vehicle emissions tax, if you drive a car with low emissions you don't pay the tax, i contribute to up keep of the roads with my council tax

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"I'm a runner and get so frustrated having to run in the road because cyclists use the pavement!! "

Many pavements are shared cycle lanes and for pedestrians too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not cyclists, or motorists or truck drivers or bikers that are a problem. Humans all fall into a bell curve where the median point is normal and considerate, but the outliers are just ignorant and/or assholes.

Take theory and apply to absolutely everything to find truth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a runner and get so frustrated having to run in the road because cyclists use the pavement!!

"

Come to London and use the new cycle super highway. It's the biggest running track in Europe. I've never seen a cyclist in it but plenty of joggers use it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In some respects cycle paths are much like public transport in that if it's not fit for purpose people simply will use other options

When cyclists pay road tax on each bike they can moan, until they do no one gives a shit.

Again read above, nobody pays road tax, roads are maintain through council tax,

I pay road tax. It's that road tax thingy car, van and lorry owners pay. The name of it escapes me at the moment...... oh, yeah ROAD TAX (also known as vehicle tax) "

It's not also known as. It IS vehicle tax. Just because you call it grad tax doesn't make. It a tax on the road. It is a tax on a vehicle, you even acknowledged that when you suggested cyclists should pay a tax on each of their bikes

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge


"In some respects cycle paths are much like public transport in that if it's not fit for purpose people simply will use other options

When cyclists pay road tax on each bike they can moan, until they do no one gives a shit.

Again read above, nobody pays road tax, roads are maintain through council tax,

I pay road tax. It's that road tax thingy car, van and lorry owners pay. The name of it escapes me at the moment...... oh, yeah ROAD TAX (also known as vehicle tax)

It's not also known as. It IS vehicle tax. Just because you call it grad tax doesn't make. It a tax on the road. It is a tax on a vehicle, you even acknowledged that when you suggested cyclists should pay a tax on each of their bikes"

But low emission vehicles don't pay it, so should they not be allowed to use the roads? Should they drive on the pavement? Vehicles used by disabled people dont pay road tax, nor do disabled passenger vehicles. Vehicles made before 1976 dont pay tax either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Again, pointless argument. Paying tax or not is irrelevant, plenty of drivers pay tax and still cut people up and drive like douchebags. People are the problem: accept that some are knobs and your life will get better!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In some respects cycle paths are much like public transport in that if it's not fit for purpose people simply will use other options

When cyclists pay road tax on each bike they can moan, until they do no one gives a shit.

Again read above, nobody pays road tax, roads are maintain through council tax,

I pay road tax. It's that road tax thingy car, van and lorry owners pay. The name of it escapes me at the moment...... oh, yeah ROAD TAX (also known as vehicle tax)

It's not also known as. It IS vehicle tax. Just because you call it grad tax doesn't make. It a tax on the road. It is a tax on a vehicle, you even acknowledged that when you suggested cyclists should pay a tax on each of their bikes

But low emission vehicles don't pay it, so should they not be allowed to use the roads? Should they drive on the pavement? Vehicles used by disabled people dont pay road tax, nor do disabled passenger vehicles. Vehicles made before 1976 dont pay tax either."

Shhhh you'll confuse him with facts!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Someone's been on Wikipedia

A large chunk of vehicle tax (road tax) goes towards the highways infrastructure (roads to the dim witted). Some time in the next 3-4 years all revenue from road tax will be dedicated to roads.

So lets agree to scrap cycle lanes as no one likes them, that all cyclists should use the road and abide by The Highway Code the same as any motorist should. Any road user not abiding by The Highway Code gets hung naked, upside down, from the nearest lamp post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You could just make it legal to crash into people who get in your way. Would eventually eliminate the problem!

While you're at it, remove seat belts and fit a spike in the centre of the steering wheel of every vehicle. Speeding problem resolved also!

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.


"In some respects cycle paths are much like public transport in that if it's not fit for purpose people simply will use other options

When cyclists pay road tax on each bike they can moan, until they do no one gives a shit.

Again read above, nobody pays road tax, roads are maintain through council tax,

I pay road tax. It's that road tax thingy car, van and lorry owners pay. The name of it escapes me at the moment...... oh, yeah ROAD TAX (also known as vehicle tax)

Just because you call it road tax doesn't make it road tax, it is vehicle emissions tax, if you drive a car with low emissions you don't pay the tax, i contribute to up keep of the roads with my council tax"

Realistically you don't. Less than a 3rd of taxes raised directly by motoring goes towards the up keep of roads. 2/3rds go to topping up things your council and other taxes can't cover...

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By *ubicinchMan
over a year ago

Gwynedd

Always interests me that the people who get so pissed off and shouty about a few cyclists getting in their way and slowing them down for a few minutes don't ever rant about horse riders doing the same! There is a totally different psychological perception. And what about farmers who chug along at 20 mph for miles with a queue of irate drivers stuck behind them?

Pricks are pricks no matter whether they are walking, running, riding or driving, we have to be vigilant, and ultimately respect that the road doesn't automatically belong to us just because we drive a car and pay tax and insurance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

http://ipayroadtax.com

Seems a few people need this website.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes drives me nuts when they think there doing the Tour de France!! In the double yellows okay anymore over in the hedge they go

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By *otblondewife hornyMrCouple
over a year ago

Cambuslang


"It's not cyclists, or motorists or truck drivers or bikers that are a problem. Humans all fall into a bell curve where the median point is normal and considerate, but the outliers are just ignorant and/or assholes.

Take theory and apply to absolutely everything to find truth."
. You need to take the logic of a person into consideration. in my view cyclists are like referees, yes there are some decent ones out there but generally if you choose to be one then you're a fud!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We want more cyclists though don't we, as they create less pollution? I prefer a bad cyclist to those 4 X 4 drivers who create lots of pollution for a 10 minute drive. Most don't even live where they need to use the fact it's a 4 x 4!

Sarah "
keeping up with the jonsies and wanna be wags! Lazy women drivers that's the issue with 4x4s and none of them can park for shit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeses! Yeeeees!

Let the hatred flow through you....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We want more cyclists though don't we, as they create less pollution? I prefer a bad cyclist to those 4 X 4 drivers who create lots of pollution for a 10 minute drive. Most don't even live where they need to use the fact it's a 4 x 4!

Sarah keeping up with the jonsies and wanna be wags! Lazy women drivers that's the issue with 4x4s and none of them can park for shit "

Mine is LPG and recently had the local MOT guy spitting out his coffee about the emission readings. Apparently it was the lowest he'd ever seen, so much so that he checked the probe on another car after to be sure!

Do I NEED a 4x4? Absolutely not. Could totally do what I do in a fiesta. I do like it though. I may no be the one your talking about though as I use my indicators and always reverse-park into an appropriate bay.

What gets me is the "I'll just be a minute" folks who shove their hazards on and abandon their cars in the middle of a busy road to go do whatever they need to do in the shop. But as I previously said: all of the issues talked about in this thread are to do with people being crap rather than any specific group.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"http://ipayroadtax.com

Seems a few people need this website. "

Must be true, it's on a cyclist propaganda website

Bunch of self righteous, arrogant *****

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh and don't get me started on the people who think to themselves;

"Ah, national speed limit here: think I'll do 45 the whole way."

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.


"We want more cyclists though don't we, as they create less pollution? I prefer a bad cyclist to those 4 X 4 drivers who create lots of pollution for a 10 minute drive. Most don't even live where they need to use the fact it's a 4 x 4!

Sarah keeping up with the jonsies and wanna be wags! Lazy women drivers that's the issue with 4x4s and none of them can park for shit "

The funny thing is both of us can park our 4x4s in a parking space no problem. Yet the Micra's, Ka's, C1's etc are nearly always badly parked. It seems the smaller the car, the less likely the driver is able to park it...But I know it's not all small car drivers, just enough to give the rest a bad name...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We want more cyclists though don't we, as they create less pollution? I prefer a bad cyclist to those 4 X 4 drivers who create lots of pollution for a 10 minute drive. Most don't even live where they need to use the fact it's a 4 x 4!

Sarah keeping up with the jonsies and wanna be wags! Lazy women drivers that's the issue with 4x4s and none of them can park for shit

The funny thing is both of us can park our 4x4s in a parking space no problem. Yet the Micra's, Ka's, C1's etc are nearly always badly parked. It seems the smaller the car, the less likely the driver is able to park it...But I know it's not all small car drivers, just enough to give the rest a bad name..."

You're doing it wrong! You need to make sweeping statements that offend people!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Does undue care and attention apply to cyclists ? Nooooooooo its like a bloody race track outside my house ,its a wonder a cyclist hasn't gone in the river,but I'm watching and waiting,cus its going to happen.hope it dosent cus if they go in there they wont come out in a hurry

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.


"Does undue care and attention apply to cyclists ? Nooooooooo its like a bloody race track outside my house ,its a wonder a cyclist hasn't gone in the river,but I'm watching and waiting,cus its going to happen.hope it dosent cus if they go in there they wont come out in a hurry "

Not due care and attention but wanton and furious cycling...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Does undue care and attention apply to cyclists ? Nooooooooo its like a bloody race track outside my house ,its a wonder a cyclist hasn't gone in the river,but I'm watching and waiting,cus its going to happen.hope it dosent cus if they go in there they wont come out in a hurry

Not due care and attention but wanton and furious cycling..."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We want more cyclists though don't we, as they create less pollution? I prefer a bad cyclist to those 4 X 4 drivers who create lots of pollution for a 10 minute drive. Most don't even live where they need to use the fact it's a 4 x 4!

Sarah "

I love my 4x4, and the Hilux will take you where other cars cannot reach (proven)

come up to Central Scotland in winter and I will tow you out the snow with my pollution causing car

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham


"I'm an avid cyclist and see people riding who should have their bike thrown in a skip. Large groups of cyclists who ride 2-3 abreast in one large pack and cyclists who filter through traffic without thinking about what vehicles may do are the 2 that get my back up

Riding two or three abreast is how cyclists as supposed to ride. You should treat the group as a large vehicle like a bus. It means motorists don't squeeze past one or two at a time potentially splitting the group up and causing accidents when they either overtake or pull into the middle of the group."

Actually on single file roads you will find it is single line, giving the vehicle a better chance of not hitting the cyclist.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham


"Not all cyclists are idiots but there are extreme idiots amongst them. No different to the majority of road user groups.

I have been saying for years cyclists over 16 should have a proficiency licence, pay a minimal tax towards all their cycle lanes, have insurance and each bike ahould have an annual version of the MOT.

However, all London bus drivers are pricks."

I have been cycling since I was 7, racing from 16 to 25. I have to say I have never used cycle paths, due to them either being segregated by a painted line to me is silly. The amount of babies, children and adults who walk out in front of me especially when I am doing a decent turn of speed is quite a bit.

Add to that the broken bottles and glass on them, makes them too dangerous to ride on. Would you drive on a road littered with nails everyday.

Recently I have noticed a massive change in the attitude towards cyclists on the roads, from cutting me up to forcing me into parked cars. Just for what? To stop me getting past you.

As for the overtaking on a bend, I have had this on a downhill road. A fuckwit driver over taking a line of cars on a bend only to face me heading towards him at over 50, luckily said fuckwit managed to get onto his side of the road before he hit me.

As for the 2 a breast argument. We used to do this on a Sunday run when on a queit road, when a car approached the group, we went into single file. Occasionally we got a friendly toot to let us know a car was there, we apologised unlike today's Cyclists.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Two abreast is totally legal regardless of where they do it.

For years I thought you had to ride single file, then I looked it up and it's fine.

"

See Rule 66 which states:

never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends

So while its fine in certain circumstances. Its not in others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As I said above, all roads belong to me, all you trespassers no mater what you drive or ride are welcome o use them, but you have to play nice... if you can't play nice I will pick up my roads and take them home. so there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Two abreast is totally legal regardless of where they do it.

For years I thought you had to ride single file, then I looked it up and it's fine.

See Rule 66 which states:

never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends

So while its fine in certain circumstances. Its not in others.

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When it's the Tour De France it's all good, however many abreast. Won't be long and it'll be here again.

Sarah

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like Pamela, the OP, I also live in Bristol. I am utterly amazed at the number of cyclists in Bristol who choose to ignore traffic lights when Red. Often they don't even bother slowing when approaching the red light.

If I was driving across a junction on a green light and some twat on a bike decided to suicide himself by ignoring the ref light I would be furious!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With the finer weather they are all coming out to play, some ride two abreast on roads around us with lots of twisty corners

If you are overtaking cyclists two abreast and a car or lorry comes round the corner in other direction it sure can be dodgy for the cyclists, sure they have entitlement to cycle their bikes but common sense says single file on twisty roads

Common sense would also say don't overtake on a corner, you use the same rules for overtaking cyclists as you would cars, why would you overtake them on a bend?

And yes SOME cyclist are giant cocks just as SOME car drivers, wagon drivers, motorcyclists take your pick are, it's not the mode of transport it's the person"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Like Pamela, the OP, I also live in Bristol. I am utterly amazed at the number of cyclists in Bristol who choose to ignore traffic lights when Red. Often they don't even bother slowing when approaching the red light.

If I was driving across a junction on a green light and some twat on a bike decided to suicide himself by ignoring the ref light I would be furious!"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

They amaze me when they ride across a zebra crossing dodging the pedestrians

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By *radleyandRavenCouple
over a year ago

Herts

Two occasions stick in my head:

I've been hit by a cyclist while on a pedestrian crossing.

He was hidden behind a transit van and ploughed into me at high speed, knocking me over and then his wheels went over my legs - Clearly didn't fancy stopping for the red light.

I was off work for weeks with back and leg injuries and was literally black and blue.

For this reason, I DO agree that cyclists should have identity plates and pay some sort of insurance.

I have also been on my bike at a red light and had another cyclist smash into my arm as he raced past, shouting at me to "Move out of the fucking way!". This Twat, however, did this right infront of a Police car and got pulled over.

I've seen enough to know that there are shitty cyclists, shitty motorists and shitty people in general but I think cyclists do need to be held more accountable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

motorists, please please please, DO NOT throw boxes of drawing pins out of your window after passing cyclists, its not a nice thing to do, please do not do it

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By *otblondewife hornyMrCouple
over a year ago

Cambuslang


"motorists, please please please, DO NOT throw boxes of drawing pins out of your window after passing cyclists, its not a nice thing to do, please do not do it"
surely more effective if someone in the passenger seat does this.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham


"Not all cyclists are idiots but there are extreme idiots amongst them. No different to the majority of road user groups.

I have been saying for years cyclists over 16 should have a proficiency licence, pay a minimal tax towards all their cycle lanes, have insurance and each bike ahould have an annual version of the MOT.

However, all London bus drivers are pricks.

Wh agree with the mot and insurance, but I am off the opinion any new driver should have to do 10 hours accompanied cycling before they are even allowed behind a wheel, just so they know the dangers a cyclists faces"

I would prefer a year, then go to a moped, the a luxurious 125, then a small car of 1000cc maximum, before being allowed near anything close to a 2 litre.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The solution, not an easy one, is to keep cyclists and cars/wagons apart.

If we had space or stated with a clean sheet, there should be cycle lanes that are physically separated from motorised forms of transport.

There would be many more people who would cycle rather than use the car, congestion, pollution and obesity would fall and the nations overall health would rise.

A big task, but not an impossible one.

Where i live there are cycle paths that are physically seperated from motorised forms of traffic ... 90% of cyclists still use the road rather than the cycle path !!!!

See my earlier post about the Leeds/Bradford cycle path, it's no good putting shit infrastructure in place as it won't get used.

My commute is 14 miles and I use cycle paths for some of it but there are others I ignore as they aren't safe or practical. "

I did read what you wrote.

The cycle paths i mentioned are extremely good. I know how good they are. There is no reason not to use them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find most motorists are more inconsiderate to cyclists and horses than the other way around to be honest.

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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago

near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack!


"Always interests me that the people who get so pissed off and shouty about a few cyclists getting in their way and slowing them down for a few minutes don't ever rant about horse riders doing the same! There is a totally different psychological perception. And what about farmers who chug along at 20 mph for miles with a queue of irate drivers stuck behind them?

Pricks are pricks no matter whether they are walking, running, riding or driving, we have to be vigilant, and ultimately respect that the road doesn't automatically belong to us just because we drive a car and pay tax and insurance. "

Actually, with regard to horses, I find the riders are amongst the most courteous because they care for their animals and anyone being courteous to them is appreciated. In my tractor driving days I would happily stop and turn my engine off if the horse looked at all threatened. Horse riders are usually much more aware of what their mounts are wary of and will guide you accordingly. Horses aren`t cheap to own and keep so their welfare is a priority over the rider`s enjoyment of being out on their mounts. I personally regard horses as all being potentially unstable until proved otherwise but I`m just as reliant on the rider`s knowledge of the horse. Also, having the New Forest on my doorstep means you have a completely different driving style. Give me horses on the road any day! At least I know where I stand with them!

And whilst we`re on the subject of tractors, these are machines meant for working the land. They are usually not earning money whilst travelling on the road except for those that are engaged in hauling produce back to the farm/processing plant so the sooner they`re back on the land, the happier the owner and driver are! Tractors like my Little Grey Ferguson, now close on 70 years old, were a huge step forward in their time but now tractors have grown from the mere 24 horse power of my T20 to 3-4 and maybe 500 horse power with the physical size having gone up to suit. Some grass mowing machines are 8-900 HP! All of this is because you the consumer demands food for next to nothing and one of the biggest costs in food production is manpower wages! This is why tractors have got bigger so they can work at greater rates but at the cost of size and weight. Most front line tractors weigh around the 5 tonne mark, with a trailer load as much as 20 tonnes all up and you certainly don`t want to be trying to climb grass verges and trying to nip into little gaps on the side of the road so someone can pass

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