FabSwingers.com forum: Boris and EU expansion claims

By *atcouple OP Couple
over a year ago

Suffolk - East Anglia

News article today states Boris as saying that the EU's attempts at expansion are similar to Hitler's and Napoleon's.

Well said Boris!

And thank God for a politician who has the guts to say how it really is!

Hitler and Napoleon both failed by the way, let's hope the EU does too.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

No I can't be bothered

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By *atcouple OP Couple
over a year ago

Suffolk - East Anglia

"No I can't be bothered"

Thanks for that most profound response.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"News article today states Boris as saying that the EU's attempts at expansion are similar to Hitler's and Napoleon's.

Well said Boris!

And thank God for a politician who has the guts to say how it really is!

Hitler and Napoleon both failed by the way, let's hope the EU does too."
russia influenced those outcomes

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By *atcouple OP Couple
over a year ago

Suffolk - East Anglia

"News article today states Boris as saying that the EU's attempts at expansion are similar to Hitler's and Napoleon's.

Well said Boris!

And thank God for a politician who has the guts to say how it really is!

Hitler and Napoleon both failed by the way, let's hope the EU does too. russia influenced those outcomes "

Well, they helped. And who knows, history repeats and all that......

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By *hechairman18Man
over a year ago

Salford Quays , Manchester

"News article today states Boris as saying that the EU's attempts at expansion are similar to Hitler's and Napoleon's.

Well said Boris!

And thank God for a politician who has the guts to say how it really is!

Hitler and Napoleon both failed by the way, let's hope the EU does too."

I have been saying the same thing for years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The stay in campaign will soon provide enough shite to whitewash this and there are so many gullible people in the UK that need their hand held that they will believe and vote to remain

Too many frightened people who cant stand on their own two feet and thrive in a UK that parts from the EU

same crap happened with Scotland, all the terrified timothies voted to remain and reap so many promises that never existed in the first place

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

get the tin foil hats out

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"get the tin foil hats out"

Tin foil ?

Are aliens trying to read my mind ?

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

"get the tin foil hats out

Tin foil ?

Are aliens trying to read my mind ?"

nah .... mystic megs dog is trying to read your mind

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By *atcouple OP Couple
over a year ago

Suffolk - East Anglia

"The stay in campaign will soon provide enough shite to whitewash this and there are so many gullible people in the UK that need their hand held that they will believe and vote to remain

Too many frightened people who cant stand on their own two feet and thrive in a UK that parts from the EU

same crap happened with Scotland, all the terrified timothies voted to remain and reap so many promises that never existed in the first place

Nice

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By *adyboy-DaddyCouple
over a year ago

Andover

"The stay in campaign will soon provide enough shite to whitewash this and there are so many gullible people in the UK that need their hand held that they will believe and vote to remain

Too many frightened people who cant stand on their own two feet and thrive in a UK that parts from the EU

same crap happened with Scotland, all the terrified timothies voted to remain and reap so many promises that never existed in the first place

And in your first post on the thread you ignore the topic raised and head off on yet another rant about the charachter and mentality of those on the opposing side of the debate.

Yet again, and again, and again, and again.

Surely you can see that this does nothing to help the Brexit camp and essentially just ends debate on important matters.

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

Boris knows that he can appeal to the jingoistic, xenophobic, and ill educated by invoking Hitler and Napoleon,

It's easier for him to make his case with simple politics of hatred, rather than by trying to find any proper arguments.

He has given up on trying to even have a semblance of logic in his arguments, and is just turning to inflammatory statements.

Particularly now that the Brexit campaign's claims that UK will be able to do wonderful trade outside the EU is becoming more laughable by the second. So much so that they have stopped even mentioning it as a factor

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So when Brexit happens, and we have got to negotiate trade deals with Europe. Having insulted them comparing them to Hitler, perhaps he is going to be chief negotiator? He is the British "Donald Trump" making such remarks.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"News article today states Boris as saying that the EU's attempts at expansion are similar to Hitler's and Napoleon's.

Well said Boris!

And thank God for a politician who has the guts to say how it really is!

Hitler and Napoleon both failed by the way, let's hope the EU does too.

russia influenced those outcomes "

They had a little bit to say about the concept of an enlarged EU including the Ukraine as I recall too....

OP: I had hoped that as time went on, a serious and mature debate would develop involving 'facts'.

Sadly both sides are proving to be as mad as a box of frogs*

Mr ddc

* No offence intended to the cheese-eating surrender-monkeys over the channel, obvs

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

Frighteningly, whatever happens in the vote; he is highly likely to be the next PM.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

in the full speech he went on to say " The bongo playing pot-heads who are running european central bank are trying to create a public panic about global warming so they can erect a statue of Fidel Castro made out of recycled garden burger boxes right in front of Buckingham Palace"

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By *angtidy42Couple
over a year ago

Redditch

Hope we do get out of the EU. They still need to trade with us as much as we do with them. I'm not one for ever closer links with European countries. We have been able to run our own country well enough be for joining so will be able to do so when we leave.

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By *adyboy-DaddyCouple
over a year ago

Andover

"Hope we do get out of the EU. They still need to trade with us as much as we do with them. I'm not one for ever closer links with European countries. We have been able to run our own country well enough be for joining so will be able to do so when we leave. "

I'm also entirely sure we would cope outside the EU.

The thing is though, I'd rather not just cope. I'd rather prosper and, currently, I think we would fair worse outside the EU.

The whole "they need is as much as we need them" thing just doesn't stand up, in my opinion.

We make up just 3% of EU imports. So why are we going to get deals that are not applied to the other 97%? They would be crazy to do it.

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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago

near Glasgow

You want facts? EU does more business with UK than UK does with EU. So they won't want to do business with us??

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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago

near Glasgow

"The stay in campaign will soon provide enough shite to whitewash this and there are so many gullible people in the UK that need their hand held that they will believe and vote to remain

Too many frightened people who cant stand on their own two feet and thrive in a UK that parts from the EU

same crap happened with Scotland, all the terrified timothies voted to remain and reap so many promises that never existed in the first place

And in your first post on the thread you ignore the topic raised and head off on yet another rant about the charachter and mentality of those on the opposing side of the debate.

Yet again, and again, and again, and again.

Surely you can see that this does nothing to help the Brexit camp and essentially just ends debate on important matters. "

There's always at least one sad pathetic soul about!!

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

all you need to do is connect the dots to understand that Merkel and Putins genetically modified super-soldiers are molesting our constitution with intent to prevent you from worshipping Jesus, which is exactly what the nazis did to the jews

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By *adyboy-DaddyCouple
over a year ago

Andover

"You want facts? EU does more business with UK than UK does with EU. So they won't want to do business with us??

I don't understand what that's to do with it though.

The percentages of how much of our exports go to them and how much of imports come from them are big. But that's not what matters.

What matters is how much of what they buy comes from us (3%) and how much of what hey sell goes to us (not much either)

90% of your weekly shopping might come from Tesco, making them very important to you, but how much of their weekly sales go to you? How important do you think your £100 a week is to them in the grand scheme of things?

Are they gonna give you deals no other customer gets just cos you spend most of your money with them? No.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If we are going this road then we check how Hitler got to power and his speeches about making Germany great again after ww1 and blaming the the surrounding countries and the tariffs place on Germany after the war for that sad state that Germany was in ..when you look at it that way who sounds more like Hitler?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Watched BREXIT the movie last night...it's free to watch online and worth a look at if you are undecided..I think more people should see this before they cast their vote.

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By *adyboy-DaddyCouple
over a year ago

Andover

I'll take a look.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

There's a really good 90 minute debate which took place at the London Palladium on Apr 28th in front of 2,200 people - I never knew. Watched bits of it so far.

It's on The Spectator web site - I got a ban last time I posted a link that wasn't mainstream media or youtube

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

A poll out in the Sunday newspapers today puts Boris as twice as likely to be trusted to tell the truth about the EU than David Cameron.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

if this is what he said then his falling foul of Godwins Law makes him look like more of a twat than he ever has done

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"get the tin foil hats out

Tin foil ?

Are aliens trying to read my mind ?

nah .... mystic megs dog is trying to read your mind"

I thought George Osborne is the new Mystic Meg now he keeps trying to predict what the world will look like in the year 2030.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe he shouldn't have used the Hitler word just to gain headlines but can anyone say he is wrong?

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By *entadreadMan
over a year ago

Essex

"get the tin foil hats out

Tin foil ?

Are aliens trying to read my mind ?"

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

"get the tin foil hats out

Tin foil ?

Are aliens trying to read my mind ?

nah .... mystic megs dog is trying to read your mind

I thought George Osborne is the new Mystic Meg now he keeps trying to predict what the world will look like in the year 2030. "

to be fair the morons in both camps are equally guilty of making ludicrous predictions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The whole problem with the in/out debate is no one really knows what the consequences are either way. Therefore the following is merely just my opinion.

In- people assume nothing will change. I think we could become even more subservient. It wouldn't surprise me if in generations' time there was a European Civil War turning into a World Conflict as America, China and Japan protect their interests.

Out- short term there would be a big economic effect which over time will recover. We will stand alone on many issues but still remain in NATO. The biggest fear being the effect on the City. We all resent it but the fact is it is a massive part of our economy and we'd struggle to adapt if the foreign trade pulled out.

This is only an opinion but short/immediate term we are better in, long term we are better out.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"A poll out in the Sunday newspapers today puts Boris as twice as likely to be trusted to tell the truth about the EU than David Cameron. "

More fool them, I thought we all knew Boris secretly knows we have to stay in, and his ploy is to win this vote, get a better deal on a new renegotiation, campaign for staying in under the new conditions, win that vote, then sweep to victory in the Conservative leadership election on a tide of being always seen to be on the winning side.

(Trump and Boris. Both America and the UK saying "how could they elect such a buffoon...)

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

"If we are going this road then we check how Hitler got to power and his speeches about making Germany great again after ww1 and blaming the the surrounding countries and the tariffs place on Germany after the war for that sad state that Germany was in ..when you look at it that way who sounds more like Hitler? "

You can't let facts get in the way of ludicrous opinion! These threads are priceless, sadly

You are right though...

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

see... this type of post scares me... because it is one of those soundbites that sounds goods... but in reality if you think the grass is greener... you may be wrong and big time wrong...

so calmly let me take an example....

everyone on the "out" side agrees that leaving the EU would also mean leaving the single market....

so for exporters you now have a problem.... why would you know manufacture something in the uk destined for europe, if it now going to cheaper to do business within the EU instead...

and for multi national manufactures this is going to cause a problem.... and the simple solution is to move the plants and bases.....

congratulations.... you just killed off a huge chunk of the uk car industry....

sure... cars destined for the uk would still be built here.... but cars destined for the EU? why?

nissan in sunderland (which ironically was built with the assistance of both uk and EU money)

land rover in the west midlands

honda in swindon

ford at dagenham and mersyside....

downsize or move to keep costs down......

but hey.... not your jobs on the the line

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By *inCity BluesMan
over a year ago

London

"get the tin foil hats out"

I don't keep up with forum goings on, but I do remember some people from their posts. If I recall bits, and correct me if I've got the wrong people, but aren't you usually fairly Left wing in your views ie anti-war, bankers, and the "One-Percent" etc?

Well the people calling for an In vote are those same fatcats, bankers and One Percenters. The same limousine elites that gave us the Iraq War and the banking crisis. The same people that are pushing for more globalisation and more conflict. To them it's just good business.

These are the people that you and others like you are standing with. All the your protests and placards and petitions have no effect whatsoever on these people (remember the Iraq War protests?) They will do exactly what they want, as they always do.

THIS is your chance to stand up to them. This is your chance to let them know how fed up you are with being lied to and ignored (and the In campaigns threats of war and global disaster come from exactly the same playbook as Blair's "weapons of mass destruction" lies a generation ago.)

People, this is your chance to make a difference. Your only chance - you will NEVER get another. You just have to find the courage to make a stand.

You have to decide where you stand. Whether it's more important to been seen to be opposed to Boris or Farage or ignorant "little Englanders", or whether to stand alongside the Tories and their chums in big business, alongside Tony Blair and his paymasters in Goldman Sachs, alongside the corporations, the banks and all the other global elites who, until this referendum came round and they needed you to vote the way they want, regarded you as nothing.

I can't tell you what will happen on June 24th if Leave wins on the 23rd. Truth is, I don't know and nor does anyone else.

But I can tell what will happen if the In side wins. All those politicians and bankers and elites who just the day before were pleading for your support, will go back to regarding you as nothing.

They will carry on doing exactly what they want, as they always do, and your chance to stand up to them will have gone.

It's up to you.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

"get the tin foil hats out

get the tin foil hats out

People, this is your chance to make a difference. Your only chance - you will NEVER get another. You just have to find the courage to make a stand.

I can't tell you what will happen on June 24th if Leave wins on the 23rd. Truth is, I don't know and nor does anyone else.

But I can tell what will happen if the In side wins. All those politicians and bankers and elites who just the day before were pleading for your support, will go back to regarding you as nothing.

They will carry on doing exactly what they want, as they always do, and your chance to stand up to them will have gone.

It's up to you."

see, your problem is you think that everyone has to be in one camp or the other ..... i'm in neither .... they're all fuckwits who claim to be trying to unite the country but are actually tearing it apart.

however, i call what bojo said for what it is..... a conspiracy theory .... and one that foolishly compares his paranoic ideas to hitler, that's where Godwins Law is evoked and he just looks like a tit.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

see... this type of post scares me... because it is one of those soundbites that sounds goods... but in reality if you think the grass is greener... you may be wrong and big time wrong..."

Actually, Fabio, the argument that always makes me snigger is "America says we should stay, but they would never stand for it themselves"

As if the US isn't actually a federation of individual states, and all the stronger because of it.

(Although I'm sure in the 'Dukes of Hazard', Georgia were probably also arguing "we'll be so much stronger alone, and we can set our own trade deals and everything". Probably)

{Imagines Boris dressed as Daisy Duke and shudders}

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"News article today states Boris as saying that the EU's attempts at expansion are similar to Hitler's and Napoleon's.

Well said Boris!

And thank God for a politician who has the guts to say how it really is!

Hitler and Napoleon both failed by the way, let's hope the EU does too."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"News article today states Boris as saying that the EU's attempts at expansion are similar to Hitler's and Napoleon's.

Well said Boris!

And thank God for a politician who has the guts to say how it really is!

Hitler and Napoleon both failed by the way, let's hope the EU does too."

There are few differences between the EU and Hitler and Napoleon.

I dont see the EU invading countries with troops and killing millions of people. Concentration camps? A political theory based on the racial superiority of one Blond haired and blued eyed race?

As for Napoleon ....His grand strategy was not based on expanding Europe but in expanding his own personal political power through invading and looting the wealth of other countires. His strategy was little more than coloinalism. England did the same with our supposed empire. We invaded and looted the wealth of other countries around the world.

The bigget problem for brexit people is that in making these absurd statememts (like Boris) they actually turn many people away from their cause.

Lets also not forget that dear old Boris has been sacked twice for lying. Once by the Telegraph for making up quotes and also by the tories for lying to Camerons face about having an affair.

Having Boris on your side is slowley becoming a millstone around your neck.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apologies for typos above

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

"Apologies for typos above

the secret spelling police will be along shortly to take you away to a secret camp for re-education

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"Apologies for typos above

the secret spelling police will be along shortly to take you away to a secret camp for re-education"

Oh!

Is that it?

Have they just gone underground?

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By *ittie4UCouple
over a year ago

Watford

"News article today states Boris as saying that the EU's attempts at expansion are similar to Hitler's and Napoleon's.

Well said Boris!

And thank God for a politician who has the guts to say how it really is!

Hitler and Napoleon both failed by the way, let's hope the EU does too."

Thanks for confirming that Hitler and Napoleon both failed. There are probably many of us on here who were a bit confused about that. Great you cleared it up though.

Yes, the referendum has really allowed Boris to show his true colours - desperate, ranting, self-serving, illogical rabble-rouser. We all knew he was a buffoon though I suppose.

Going around in the Blunder Bus with '£350 million a week' written on the side - a number even the most extreme Brexiter has to admit is a blantant lie; with the NHS logo on the side with the NHS threatening to sue for its illegal use and everyone in the NHS from nurses, doctors to managers admitting the NHS would be devastated if we leave the EU.

Clearly we can't believe anything Vote Leave says is the truth.

But, it seems Farage is impressed and has said he would happily work with him. And that says it all really. Even the Vote Leave leaders are keen to keep Farage locked in a dark cellar for the duration. One sensible decision at least.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Actually, Fabio, the argument that always makes me snigger is "America says we should stay, but they would never stand for it themselves"

As if the US isn't actually a federation of individual states, and all the stronger because of it.

(Although I'm sure in the 'Dukes of Hazard', Georgia were probably also arguing "we'll be so much stronger alone, and we can set our own trade deals and everything". Probably)

{Imagines Boris dressed as Daisy Duke and shudders}

maybe not georgia..... but certainly texas!!! some people there have wanted to sussede from the union the minute they became part of the union.....

anyway the thing that has made laugh the most in the campaign.. is that the out want out... but haven't decided what out they actually want....

1st it was the norway model "out"... but when it was pointed what that meant.. they all went... noooooo and scuttled off...

then they came back with the swiss model "out"... but again when it was pointed out what that meant... again...nooooooo... and back to drawing board...

then came the WTO out version.... and when it was noticed that it would cause all sorts of bad things....hell no!!

then came the canada out model.....good... good....bad in the fine print... no!!!!!!!

so what we are left with is they still haven't come up with a solution... but they will get everything they want in the exit negoiations and give up nothing....sweetheart deals and the whole shebang!!! not only that but we will also get sweetheart deals with every other nation!!!!! cool... sign me up! now where is that pen, shit i dropped it on the floor, let me pick it up before they all change their minds!!!!

hmmmm..... does that sound realistic?

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

Actually, Fabio, the argument that always makes me snigger is "America says we should stay, but they would never stand for it themselves"

As if the US isn't actually a federation of individual states, and all the stronger because of it.

(Although I'm sure in the 'Dukes of Hazard', Georgia were probably also arguing "we'll be so much stronger alone, and we can set our own trade deals and everything". Probably)

{Imagines Boris dressed as Daisy Duke and shudders}

maybe not georgia..... but certainly texas!!! some people there have wanted to sussede from the union the minute they became part of the union.....

anyway the thing that has made laugh the most in the campaign.. is that the out want out... but haven't decided what out they actually want....

1st it was the norway model "out"... but when it was pointed what that meant.. they all went... noooooo and scuttled off...

then they came back with the swiss model "out"... but again when it was pointed out what that meant... again...nooooooo... and back to drawing board...

then came the WTO out version.... and when it was noticed that it would cause all sorts of bad things....hell no!!

then came the canada out model.....good... good....bad in the fine print... no!!!!!!!

hmmmm..... does that sound realistic?

Don't most of them just want to go back to the Britain (probably England) of the 1950s? (But without the rationing). Isn't that the true model: warm beer and cricket on the village green, and that oft-forgotten, but rosy-coloured time before the Suez crisis...

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By *ittie4UCouple
over a year ago

Watford

"Lets also not forget that dear old Boris has been sacked twice for lying. Once by the Telegraph for making up quotes and also by the tories for lying to Camerons face about having an affair.

Having Boris on your side is slowley becoming a millstone around your neck."

I suspect many Tories will be secretly hoping Sadiq Khan finds some dirty work around the Garden Bridge with Boris's finger prints on it to end Boris's political career once and for all.

Brexit and then a Boris premiership would indeed turn the UK into a laughing stock for the rest of the world! Still, we'd at least be the centre of world attention (which Boris would love) even if for all the wrong reasons!

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

Actually, Fabio, the argument that always makes me snigger is "America says we should stay, but they would never stand for it themselves"

As if the US isn't actually a federation of individual states, and all the stronger because of it.

(Although I'm sure in the 'Dukes of Hazard', Georgia were probably also arguing "we'll be so much stronger alone, and we can set our own trade deals and everything". Probably)

{Imagines Boris dressed as Daisy Duke and shudders}

maybe not georgia..... but certainly texas!!! some people there have wanted to sussede from the union the minute they became part of the union.....

anyway the thing that has made laugh the most in the campaign.. is that the out want out... but haven't decided what out they actually want....

1st it was the norway model "out"... but when it was pointed what that meant.. they all went... noooooo and scuttled off...

then they came back with the swiss model "out"... but again when it was pointed out what that meant... again...nooooooo... and back to drawing board...

then came the WTO out version.... and when it was noticed that it would cause all sorts of bad things....hell no!!

then came the canada out model.....good... good....bad in the fine print... no!!!!!!!

hmmmm..... does that sound realistic?

i think this 3 second video sums up the messages being presented in the campaigns by both sides

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwBNpIoPQz8

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Apologies for typos above

the secret spelling police will be along shortly to take you away to a secret camp for re-education"

Boris will probably warn us about them soon ....no doubt they are next EU super department ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Apologies for typos above

the secret spelling police will be along shortly to take you away to a secret camp for re-education

Oh!

Is that it?

Have they just gone underground?

Absolutely love your pics

Fabulous

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By *ittie4UCouple
over a year ago

Watford

"get the tin foil hats out

get the tin foil hats out

People, this is your chance to make a difference. Your only chance - you will NEVER get another. You just have to find the courage to make a stand.

I can't tell you what will happen on June 24th if Leave wins on the 23rd. Truth is, I don't know and nor does anyone else.

But I can tell what will happen if the In side wins. All those politicians and bankers and elites who just the day before were pleading for your support, will go back to regarding you as nothing.

They will carry on doing exactly what they want, as they always do, and your chance to stand up to them will have gone.

It's up to you."

There's limited point discussing this here - it would go horribly wrong - but I wish I could discuss your post with you. For me, the only hope against the 1% - and the is the EU.

I remember the UK before the single market - business making us the dirty man of Europe and driving down wages and workers rights. It was always 'we can't give workers xxxxx because it would ruin our competitiveness".

Do you not think at least 50% of out political parties aren't front for the 1%? Do you not see the hedge fund managers, billionaires all, funding Vote Leave?

If you vote Brexit you are signing away any protection you might have from them.

Just a point of view.

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By *atcouple OP Couple
over a year ago

Suffolk - East Anglia

"News article today states Boris as saying that the EU's attempts at expansion are similar to Hitler's and Napoleon's.

Well said Boris!

And thank God for a politician who has the guts to say how it really is!

Hitler and Napoleon both failed by the way, let's hope the EU does too.

There are few differences between the EU and Hitler and Napoleon.

I dont see the EU invading countries with troops and killing millions of people. Concentration camps? A political theory based on the racial superiority of one Blond haired and blued eyed race?

The bigget problem for brexit people is that in making these absurd statememts (like Boris) they actually turn many people away from their cause.

Lets also not forget that dear old Boris has been sacked twice for lying. Once by the Telegraph for making up quotes and also by the tories for lying to Camerons face about having an affair.

Having Boris on your side is slowley becoming a millstone around your neck."

I bet Boris can spell "slowly" though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Actually, Fabio, the argument that always makes me snigger is "America says we should stay, but they would never stand for it themselves"

As if the US isn't actually a federation of individual states, and all the stronger because of it.

(Although I'm sure in the 'Dukes of Hazard', Georgia were probably also arguing "we'll be so much stronger alone, and we can set our own trade deals and everything". Probably)

{Imagines Boris dressed as Daisy Duke and shudders}

maybe not georgia..... but certainly texas!!! some people there have wanted to sussede from the union the minute they became part of the union.....

anyway the thing that has made laugh the most in the campaign.. is that the out want out... but haven't decided what out they actually want....

1st it was the norway model "out"... but when it was pointed what that meant.. they all went... noooooo and scuttled off...

then they came back with the swiss model "out"... but again when it was pointed out what that meant... again...nooooooo... and back to drawing board...

then came the WTO out version.... and when it was noticed that it would cause all sorts of bad things....hell no!!

then came the canada out model.....good... good....bad in the fine print... no!!!!!!!

hmmmm..... does that sound realistic?

No. Most of them want a more modern world, a world that has changed dramatically over the last few years where deals can be done and transactions made at the click of a button, not to be a part of a failing outdated straightjacket of an expansionist organisation that is no longer relevant in the modern world

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By *entkinkcplCouple
over a year ago

maidstone

"Boris knows that he can appeal to the jingoistic, xenophobic, and ill educated by invoking Hitler and Napoleon,

It's easier for him to make his case with simple politics of hatred, rather than by trying to find any proper arguments.

He has given up on trying to even have a semblance of logic in his arguments, and is just turning to inflammatory statements.

"
.....he's only doing the same as the in campaign

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By *inCity BluesMan
over a year ago

London

see, your problem is you think that everyone has to be in one camp or the other ..... i'm in neither .... "

Oh, I see. Sorry, I misread you. So in fact you take an Occupy / Russell Brand type position, ie dont vote, they're all the same etc etc. You complain and posture, but even when you get the chance to make a stand you won't do anything. Hmm.

Still, the fatcats will thank you anyway. In fact, they're probably relying on people who feel like you. Passive acquiescence is still support for them - means one less Leave vote.

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By *adyboy-DaddyCouple
over a year ago

Andover

Amazed at anyone suggesting there is right wing=rich=in versus left wing = workers=out aspect to the campaign.

It's completely open from what I can see.

Those thinking it is to be the conspiracy theorist and ton foil hat brigade.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"get the tin foil hats out

get the tin foil hats out

People, this is your chance to make a difference. Your only chance - you will NEVER get another. You just have to find the courage to make a stand.

I can't tell you what will happen on June 24th if Leave wins on the 23rd. Truth is, I don't know and nor does anyone else.

But I can tell what will happen if the In side wins. All those politicians and bankers and elites who just the day before were pleading for your support, will go back to regarding you as nothing.

They will carry on doing exactly what they want, as they always do, and your chance to stand up to them will have gone.

It's up to you."

I dont really understand what you think we will be 'standing up for' if we vote to leave. Who will we be 'standing up to' by voting to leave? These bankers etc ...what exactly will they suddenly do if we vote leave...how will they take 'notice' of us and stop regarding us as 'nothing'?

Leaving Europe wont stop us being 'lied to' or 'ignored' by politicians etc.

This is classic brexit ....make wild claims that cant be substantiated.

This is approach is failing you. The only people you convince are those already convinced. You are turning people away from your position with this strategy.

Boris is making brexit supporters look foolish. Now that he is under the spotlight so much more his buffoonish humourous approach to politics is exposing the fact that his only policy is himself.

Boris is one of those people you rail against. He dosnt care about you. He isnt listening to you.

Boris as prime minister would be like berluscini for us.....borisconi.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"News article today states Boris as saying that the EU's attempts at expansion are similar to Hitler's and Napoleon's.

Well said Boris!

And thank God for a politician who has the guts to say how it really is!

Hitler and Napoleon both failed by the way, let's hope the EU does too.

There are few differences between the EU and Hitler and Napoleon.

I dont see the EU invading countries with troops and killing millions of people. Concentration camps? A political theory based on the racial superiority of one Blond haired and blued eyed race?

The bigget problem for brexit people is that in making these absurd statememts (like Boris) they actually turn many people away from their cause.

Lets also not forget that dear old Boris has been sacked twice for lying. Once by the Telegraph for making up quotes and also by the tories for lying to Camerons face about having an affair.

Having Boris on your side is slowley becoming a millstone around your neck.

I bet Boris can spell "slowly" though."

Lol he probably can.

Im tempted to write something about turning a blind eye to any argument that dosnt fit with your point of view...ignoring facts...but its probably not worth it is it?

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

see, your problem is you think that everyone has to be in one camp or the other ..... i'm in neither ....

Still, the fatcats will thank you anyway. In fact, they're probably relying on people who feel like you. Passive acquiescence is still support for them - means one less Leave vote.

A low turn out will help the Leave vote. The older generation who are more likely to vote are more likely to vote Leave. Plus the Leave side have the more passionate supporters who are more motivated to go and vote Leave. Many of the 'In' voters seem to be saying "The EU is a bit naff really but I suppose we should vote to stay in" (Jeremy Corbyn seems to be in that camp with that line of thought).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bloody hell, DC was right, We leave Boris dealers the EU as the enemy and Boris / Trump start world war 3 probably starting with Spain as they speak Mexican and haven't paid for a wall.

Anyway, what about the Romans? they didn't do too bad a job of building a European Empire...

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"get the tin foil hats out

get the tin foil hats out

People, this is your chance to make a difference. Your only chance - you will NEVER get another. You just have to find the courage to make a stand.

I can't tell you what will happen on June 24th if Leave wins on the 23rd. Truth is, I don't know and nor does anyone else.

But I can tell what will happen if the In side wins. All those politicians and bankers and elites who just the day before were pleading for your support, will go back to regarding you as nothing.

They will carry on doing exactly what they want, as they always do, and your chance to stand up to them will have gone.

It's up to you.

Leaving Europe wont stop us being 'lied to' or 'ignored' by politicians etc.

This is classic brexit ....make wild claims that cant be substantiated.

This is approach is failing you. The only people you convince are those already convinced. You are turning people away from your position with this strategy.

Boris is making brexit supporters look foolish. Now that he is under the spotlight so much more his buffoonish humourous approach to politics is exposing the fact that his only policy is himself.

Boris is one of those people you rail against. He dosnt care about you. He isnt listening to you.

Boris as prime minister would be like berluscini for us.....borisconi."

...and you think Cameron is doing a better job???? Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Boris knows that he can appeal to the jingoistic, xenophobic, and ill educated by invoking Hitler and Napoleon,

It's easier for him to make his case with simple politics of hatred, rather than by trying to find any proper arguments.

He has given up on trying to even have a semblance of logic in his arguments, and is just turning to inflammatory statements.

.....he's only doing the same as the in campaign "

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By *ittie4UCouple
over a year ago

Watford

I bet Boris can spell "slowly" though."

In Latin and Ancient Greek. I understand he can sing it in German too if it's written by Schiiler.

Shame his parent's investment in his education at Eton isn't being put to better use.

His Dad (pro-EU by the way) must be proud.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Boris as prime minister would be like berluscini for us.....borisconi.

...and you think Cameron is doing a better job???? Lol

I think Cameron is a very poor PM but at least he does actually have some policies other than self promotion lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Boris is actually pro EU, but anti Cameron, this is his personal attempt to gain personal power.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

When Godwins Law is invoked by a politico its time to leave the argument.

I don't understand why people think this is a reasonable argument. Its inflammatory nonsense, and if I were inclined to vote to leave the EU I would feel offended by his obvious trolling.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

see... this type of post scares me... because it is one of those soundbites that sounds goods... but in reality if you think the grass is greener... you may be wrong and big time wrong...

so calmly let me take an example....

everyone on the "out" side agrees that leaving the EU would also mean leaving the single market....

so for exporters you now have a problem.... why would you know manufacture something in the uk destined for europe, if it now going to cheaper to do business within the EU instead...

and for multi national manufactures this is going to cause a problem.... and the simple solution is to move the plants and bases.....

congratulations.... you just killed off a huge chunk of the uk car industry....

sure... cars destined for the uk would still be built here.... but cars destined for the EU? why?

nissan in sunderland (which ironically was built with the assistance of both uk and EU money)

land rover in the west midlands

honda in swindon

ford at dagenham and mersyside....

downsize or move to keep costs down......

but hey.... not your jobs on the the line"

A few points there Fabio. One of Land Rovers biggest markets is China and not the EU. You seem to be forgetting that tariffs are a 2 way thing. You think German car makers like BMW, Mercedes, Audi and VW will be happy about paying tariffs to ship their products to the UK? All the french farmers, cheese makers and champagne makers too? They will kick up one hell of a fuss in Germany and France if that happens. Plus on one of your other points it seems to be the remainers who constantly point at a Norway model or a Swiss model or even the Canada model (which is a 98% free trade deal). The Brexit side don't want any of those models (although there are some good points to take from them) when we leave the EU we will have a unique British deal with the EU unlike any other. We are not Norway, we are not Switzerland and we are not Canada.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

see, your problem is you think that everyone has to be in one camp or the other ..... i'm in neither ....

see, another of your problems is that you're very presumptuous. i think russel brand is as much of a bellend as bojo.

"Still, the fatcats will thank you anyway. In fact, they're probably relying on people who feel like you. Passive acquiescence is still support for them - means one less Leave vote. "

i go through the motions of voting and have done for decades. in any case, if i didn't turn out to vote explain your idea that i solely benefit the remain camp rather than the leave camp. you either haven't thought that one through or you are trying to pull one of the oldest hustings conjouring tricks in the book. after all mutual passive aquiescence is what allows the house of commons to be so empty when they are voting on most issues.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

I bet Boris can spell "slowly" though.

In Latin and Ancient Greek. I understand he can sing it in German too if it's written by Schiiler.

Shame his parent's investment in his education at Eton isn't being put to better use.

His Dad (pro-EU by the way) must be proud."

I hear Jeremy Corbyn's brother is a passionate Brexit supporter.

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford

Boris being Boris an etonian wanker

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Boris as prime minister would be like berluscini for us.....borisconi.

...and you think Cameron is doing a better job???? Lol

I think Cameron is a very poor PM but at least he does actually have some policies other than self promotion lol"

Better policies which he keeps having to do u-turns on. In the past few months Cameron has done more u-turns than a driving instructor.

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By *ittie4UCouple
over a year ago

Watford

"A low turn out will help the Leave vote. The older generation who are more likely to vote are more likely to vote Leave. Plus the Leave side have the more passionate supporters who are more motivated to go and vote Leave. Many of the 'In' voters seem to be saying "The EU is a bit naff really but I suppose we should vote to stay in" (Jeremy Corbyn seems to be in that camp with that line of thought). "

You confuse amount of noise with a popular majority.

Still, if it makes you happy to say it again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again. You obviously think if you state it often enough it will become true.

If you really believed it though, I suspect you wouldn't need to keep on saying it though.

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By *ittie4UCouple
over a year ago

Watford

Boris as prime minister would be like berluscini for us.....borisconi.

...and you think Cameron is doing a better job???? Lol

I think Cameron is a very poor PM but at least he does actually have some policies other than self promotion lol

Better policies which he keeps having to do u-turns on. In the past few months Cameron has done more u-turns than a driving instructor. "

As opposed to going around and around in circles like Boris?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bet Boris can spell "slowly" though.

In Latin and Ancient Greek. I understand he can sing it in German too if it's written by Schiiler.

Shame his parent's investment in his education at Eton isn't being put to better use.

His Dad (pro-EU by the way) must be proud.

I hear Jeremy Corbyn's brother is a passionate Brexit supporter. "

Heard the same of George Osbourne's family. You know, the ones who actually make the money/do something

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

see, your problem is you think that everyone has to be in one camp or the other ..... i'm in neither ....

see, another of your problems is that you're very presumptuous. i think russel brand is as much of a bellend as bojo.

Still, the fatcats will thank you anyway. In fact, they're probably relying on people who feel like you. Passive acquiescence is still support for them - means one less Leave vote.

Don't vote then, as I said in an earlier post a low turn out will help the Leave side.

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By *ittie4UCouple
over a year ago

Watford

I bet Boris can spell "slowly" though.

In Latin and Ancient Greek. I understand he can sing it in German too if it's written by Schiiler.

Shame his parent's investment in his education at Eton isn't being put to better use.

His Dad (pro-EU by the way) must be proud.

I hear Jeremy Corbyn's brother is a passionate Brexit supporter. "

Yes he is. He also thinks climate change has nothing to do with humanity - unlike 99% of scientist who are the experts in the field.

See a link with Brexit there?

"Well, 99% of scientist are wrong. Everyone of them has been wrong before, so absolutely they have no credibility and shouldn't be listened to. Oh and they get money from the EU too, so they are completely corrupted on the issue"

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By *ittie4UCouple
over a year ago

Watford

I bet Boris can spell "slowly" though.

In Latin and Ancient Greek. I understand he can sing it in German too if it's written by Schiiler.

Shame his parent's investment in his education at Eton isn't being put to better use.

His Dad (pro-EU by the way) must be proud.

I hear Jeremy Corbyn's brother is a passionate Brexit supporter.

Heard the same of George Osbourne's family. You know, the ones who actually make the money/do something"

Make wallpaper, I believe.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

You confuse amount of noise with a popular majority.

Still, if it makes you happy to say it again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again. You obviously think if you state it often enough it will become true.

If you really believed it though, I suspect you wouldn't need to keep on saying it though."

Like the same things you keep saying over and over and over and over again on these EU threads you mean?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bet Boris can spell "slowly" though.

In Latin and Ancient Greek. I understand he can sing it in German too if it's written by Schiiler.

Shame his parent's investment in his education at Eton isn't being put to better use.

His Dad (pro-EU by the way) must be proud.

I hear Jeremy Corbyn's brother is a passionate Brexit supporter.

Heard the same of George Osbourne's family. You know, the ones who actually make the money/do something

Make wallpaper, I believe."

Yes. Something wrong with that?

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford

Boris as prime minister would be like berluscini for us.....borisconi.

...and you think Cameron is doing a better job???? Lol

I think Cameron is a very poor PM but at least he does actually have some policies other than self promotion lol

Better policies which he keeps having to do u-turns on. In the past few months Cameron has done more u-turns than a driving instructor. "

Something UKIP will never understand with 1 mp is that when a party is the government it has to listen to people especially it's own backbench mps when making policy. Still UKIP won't have to worry about that anytime soon

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

"Don't vote then, as I said in an earlier post a low turn out will help the Leave side.

i'll do what the fuck i want despite your petulant comment above thanks all the same

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By *ittie4UCouple
over a year ago

Watford

see... this type of post scares me... because it is one of those soundbites that sounds goods... but in reality if you think the grass is greener... you may be wrong and big time wrong...

so calmly let me take an example....

everyone on the "out" side agrees that leaving the EU would also mean leaving the single market....

so for exporters you now have a problem.... why would you know manufacture something in the uk destined for europe, if it now going to cheaper to do business within the EU instead...

and for multi national manufactures this is going to cause a problem.... and the simple solution is to move the plants and bases.....

congratulations.... you just killed off a huge chunk of the uk car industry....

sure... cars destined for the uk would still be built here.... but cars destined for the EU? why?

nissan in sunderland (which ironically was built with the assistance of both uk and EU money)

land rover in the west midlands

honda in swindon

ford at dagenham and mersyside....

downsize or move to keep costs down......

but hey.... not your jobs on the the line

The famous Brexit UK model. It's unlike any other for a reason....

"We'll have all the benefits we want from the single market, with non of the rules we don't want and we won't pay anything for the access we want. So, we'll just have (of course, there's no need for a negotiation, because we are the UK and we get whatever we want because we are so special!) a better deal than France, Germany, Netherlands, Denmark.......and believe me, EU, you would be mad not to accept it.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Boris as prime minister would be like berluscini for us.....borisconi.

...and you think Cameron is doing a better job???? Lol

I think Cameron is a very poor PM but at least he does actually have some policies other than self promotion lol

Better policies which he keeps having to do u-turns on. In the past few months Cameron has done more u-turns than a driving instructor.

Yes that's correct, I've not said otherwise. Although you do realise if we had a proportional representation system at the last general election it's most likely we would now have a Conservative/Ukip coalition.

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By *illbillMan
over a year ago

dublin

"News article today states Boris as saying that the EU's attempts at expansion are similar to Hitler's and Napoleon's.

Well said Boris!

And thank God for a politician who has the guts to say how it really is!

Hitler and Napoleon both failed by the way, let's hope the EU does too."
napolean and third riche had its expansion plans indeed but so did uk with equal consequences to indigenous peoples and cultures so is this a case of pot calling keetle black

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Boris as prime minister would be like berluscini for us.....borisconi.

...and you think Cameron is doing a better job???? Lol

I think Cameron is a very poor PM but at least he does actually have some policies other than self promotion lol

Better policies which he keeps having to do u-turns on. In the past few months Cameron has done more u-turns than a driving instructor. "

Im pretty sure that Boris has done the bigggeat u-turn. Have you forgotten that he has a long and well documented history of supporting the UK being in europe?

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By *ittie4UCouple
over a year ago

Watford

I bet Boris can spell "slowly" though.

In Latin and Ancient Greek. I understand he can sing it in German too if it's written by Schiiler.

Shame his parent's investment in his education at Eton isn't being put to better use.

His Dad (pro-EU by the way) must be proud.

I hear Jeremy Corbyn's brother is a passionate Brexit supporter.

Heard the same of George Osbourne's family. You know, the ones who actually make the money/do something

Make wallpaper, I believe.

Yes. Something wrong with that?"

You're very sensitive. Are you having a bad day?

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"Don't vote then, as I said in an earlier post a low turn out will help the Leave side.

i'll do what the fuck i want despite your petulant comment above thanks all the same"

How is it petulant? You've been saying on several posts about your voting intentions in this EU referendum which seems to be suggesting you are not going to vote on it.

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford

Boris as prime minister would be like berluscini for us.....borisconi.

...and you think Cameron is doing a better job???? Lol

I think Cameron is a very poor PM but at least he does actually have some policies other than self promotion lol

Better policies which he keeps having to do u-turns on. In the past few months Cameron has done more u-turns than a driving instructor.

That's selling pr to me

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By *ittie4UCouple
over a year ago

Watford

"When Godwins Law is invoked by a politico its time to leave the argument.

I don't understand why people think this is a reasonable argument. Its inflammatory nonsense, and if I were inclined to vote to leave the EU I would feel offended by his obvious trolling."

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

"Don't vote then, as I said in an earlier post a low turn out will help the Leave side.

i'll do what the fuck i want despite your petulant comment above thanks all the same

How is it petulant? You've been saying on several posts about your voting intentions in this EU referendum which seems to be suggesting you are not going to vote on it. "

i haven't said anything about my intentions.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Boris as prime minister would be like berluscini for us.....borisconi.

...and you think Cameron is doing a better job???? Lol

I think Cameron is a very poor PM but at least he does actually have some policies other than self promotion lol

Better policies which he keeps having to do u-turns on. In the past few months Cameron has done more u-turns than a driving instructor.

Im pretty sure that Boris has done the bigggeat u-turn. Have you forgotten that he has a long and well documented history of supporting the UK being in europe?"

You must have missed all those anti EU columns he's been writing in newspapers for years then.

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By *hrobinhoodMan
over a year ago

arnold, Nottingham

"News article today states Boris as saying that the EU's attempts at expansion are similar to Hitler's and Napoleon's.

Well said Boris!

And thank God for a politician who has the guts to say how it really is!

Hitler and Napoleon both failed by the way, let's hope the EU does too."

yes and if we stay in Europe we should ditch the pound, we are either in or out of EU government should make its mind up and not pick and choose what parts it wants.

I for one think we should leave as we are not joined to Europe anyway and the money would be better spent building a 10 foot wall around UK lol

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over a year ago

"in the full speech he went on to say " The bongo playing pot-heads who are running european central bank are trying to create a public panic about global warming so they can erect a statue of Fidel Castro made out of recycled garden burger boxes right in front of Buckingham Palace""

A brilliant statement ,

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By *inCity BluesMan
over a year ago

London

Leaving Europe wont stop us being 'lied to' or 'ignored' by politicians etc.

This is classic brexit ....make wild claims that cant be substantiated.

Wild claims? Lies? An irony considering the topic of this thread. "Boris compares the EU to the Nazis" scream the Remainers and the media, and everyone believes them.

In fact, he didn't. Look at his words again (you have read what he originally said, haven't you?)

"The former London mayor and Conservative MP claimed the last 2,000 years had seen a number of failed attempts to recreate the "golden age" of the Romans.

In an interview with the Sunday Telegraph, he said: "Napoleon, Hitler, various people tried this out, and it ends tragically. The EU is an attempt to do this by different methods.

"But fundamentally what is lacking is the eternal problem, which is that there is no underlying loyalty to the idea of Europe.

"There is no single authority that anybody respects or understands. That is causing this massive democratic void."

You see? In fact, he's comparing the EU with the Roman Empire, not Hitler. He mentions Hitler and Napoloeon only in reference to their own attempts to recreate the Roman Empire (and the imagery of columns of men marching behind eagle standards make it clear where both these men got their inspiration).

But the Remainers and their allies cry "Nazis" and everyone neatly falls into line without question. This is exactly the kind of lie that I was talking about.

Perfect.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"Don't vote then, as I said in an earlier post a low turn out will help the Leave side.

i'll do what the fuck i want despite your petulant comment above thanks all the same

How is it petulant? You've been saying on several posts about your voting intentions in this EU referendum which seems to be suggesting you are not going to vote on it.

i haven't said anything about my intentions. "

I'm sure I remember on another EU thread you said you weren't going to bother voting on it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Leaving Europe wont stop us being 'lied to' or 'ignored' by politicians etc.

This is classic brexit ....make wild claims that cant be substantiated.

Wild claims? Lies? An irony considering the topic of this thread. "Boris compares the EU to the Nazis" scream the Remainers and the media, and everyone believes them.

In fact, he didn't. Look at his words again (you have read what he originally said, haven't you?)

The former London mayor and Conservative MP claimed the last 2,000 years had seen a number of failed attempts to recreate the "golden age" of the Romans.

In an interview with the Sunday Telegraph, he said: "Napoleon, Hitler, various people tried this out, and it ends tragically. The EU is an attempt to do this by different methods.

"But fundamentally what is lacking is the eternal problem, which is that there is no underlying loyalty to the idea of Europe.

"There is no single authority that anybody respects or understands. That is causing this massive democratic void.

But the Remainers and their allies cry "Nazis" and everyone neatly falls into line without question. This is exactly the kind of lie that I was talking about.

Perfect.

...and thats different to boris claiming the PM said world war 3 would happen if we leave europe?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The reason the EU wants to keep expanding to include poorer countries is so that the richer countries/companies benefit by having a ready supply of cheap labour so that they can compete with the likes of China and India. Anyone who thinks that the EU is for the working man is frankly deluded

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"News article today states Boris as saying that the EU's attempts at expansion are similar to Hitler's and Napoleon's.

Well said Boris!

And thank God for a politician who has the guts to say how it really is!

Hitler and Napoleon both failed by the way, let's hope the EU does too.

yes and if we stay in Europe we should ditch the pound, we are either in or out of EU government should make its mind up and not pick and choose what parts it wants.

I for one think we should leave as we are not joined to Europe anyway and the money would be better spent building a 10 foot wall around UK lol"

A Remain supporter said on another EU thread last week that we should ditch the pound, adopt the Euro and fully integrate with the EU. A few other remain supporters agreed with them. Complete madness unless you want this country to end up like Greece, Spain, Portugal or Italy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Boris as prime minister would be like berluscini for us.....borisconi.

...and you think Cameron is doing a better job???? Lol

I think Cameron is a very poor PM but at least he does actually have some policies other than self promotion lol

Better policies which he keeps having to do u-turns on. In the past few months Cameron has done more u-turns than a driving instructor.

Im pretty sure that Boris has done the bigggeat u-turn. Have you forgotten that he has a long and well documented history of supporting the UK being in europe?

You must have missed all those anti EU columns he's been writing in newspapers for years then. "

You mean all those columns that he has admitted he made up things about about european dictacts...square strawberries etc. No I havnt missed his so called journalism. He does have a long history of supporting europe and even a couple of weeks before he made his 'decision' is in record as saying that we should stay in. So I say again he has made a bigger u-turn than the ones you criticised Cameron for.

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

"The stay in campaign will soon provide enough shite to whitewash this and there are so many gullible people in the UK that need their hand held that they will believe and vote to remain

Too many frightened people who cant stand on their own two feet and thrive in a UK that parts from the EU

same crap happened with Scotland, all the terrified timothies voted to remain and reap so many promises that never existed in the first place

It's terrible, isn't it? With oil at $200 a barrel as the NSP promised the people that voted to stay with the UK must be kicking themselves...

Let's be honest, there is quite a difference between Scotland leaving the UK and the UK leaving Europe...

Every side are going to tell you what they think you want to hear, be it a Scottish referendum or a European one...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I for one think we should leave as we are not joined to Europe anyway and the money would be better spent building a 10 foot wall around UK lol"

You are aware that most airplanes exceed 10' I hope