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By *ali 69 OP   Man
over a year ago

jersey

With virtually every T.v. Advert and woman's magazine and soap opera demonising men to the point where we are just seen as two legged cockeroaches , I would like to shine a light in this dark murky tunnel and share a positive story about a man I read recently in a magazine . It was about a head sherpa called Lhakpa Tenzing who has climbed Mount Everest 21 times on expeditions for affluent westerners . No body has scaled Everest more times than him . When asked was he proud of this unbelievable achievement he replied " I would have prefered to be a doctor , but I need the money for my children . That's the reason why I climb mountains , so they don't have to . " Humbling .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You really think men are demonised, as opposed to specific men or male characters?

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By *ali 69 OP   Man
over a year ago

jersey


"You really think men are demonised, as opposed to specific men or male characters?"
Very rare to see a positive depiction of men in the media , majority is very negative .

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By *exyLancs2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

Generally speaking, yes, they are. Homer Simpson, various characters in sitcoms and such like. Men are depicted as useless and generally fumbling. Man 'bashing' also seems to be very popular in the left-wing media where certain feminist writers spout off about women being oppressed and the wage-gap myth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree, men are becoming increasingly demonised in the media but what seems to be forgotten in this disgusting misandry is this ... Who gave birth to men? That's right women, you did, shame on you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Generally speaking, yes, they are. Homer Simpson, various characters in sitcoms and such like. Men are depicted as useless and generally fumbling. Man 'bashing' also seems to be very popular in the left-wing media where certain feminist writers spout off about women being oppressed and the wage-gap myth."

What about the larger number of excellent men depicted in different types of media? Like the fantastic, intelligent detectives in every drama show pretty much all being men for one.

Is this entire post for real? I can't believe people truly believe men are only shown as underdogs in entertainment/media. It's mad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"what seems to be forgotten in this disgusting misandry is this ... Who gave birth to men? That's right women, you did, shame on you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With virtually every T.v. Advert and woman's magazine and soap opera demonising men to the point where we are just seen as two legged cockeroaches , I would like to shine a light in this dark murky tunnel and share a positive story about a man I read recently in a magazine . It was about a head sherpa called Lhakpa Tenzing who has climbed Mount Everest 21 times on expeditions for affluent westerners . No body has scaled Everest more times than him . When asked was he proud of this unbelievable achievement he replied " I would have prefered to be a doctor , but I need the money for my children . That's the reason why I climb mountains , so they don't have to . " Humbling . "

Is this just a shameless 'look at me' post?

Men! Pfft

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By *exyLancs2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

Not a 'look at me post', valid points made. When it comes to look at me posts/profiles, it has to be said that women get the medals there.

The OP made a good point about the portrayal of men in the media, be it newspapers or the sitcom type. If the roles were reversed and women were slated in a similar way and to a similar extent it would be classed as 'hate speech' and shut down very quickly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not a 'look at me post', valid points made. When it comes to look at me posts/profiles, it has to be said that women get the medals there.

The OP made a good point about the portrayal of men in the media, be it newspapers or the sitcom type. If the roles were reversed and women were slated in a similar way and to a similar extent it would be classed as 'hate speech' and shut down very quickly.

"

You've never seen a dumb bint style character?

What the hell is going on in this thread? Have you lot just not seen any television shows or something?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Generally speaking, yes, they are. Homer Simpson, various characters in sitcoms and such like. Men are depicted as useless and generally fumbling. Man 'bashing' also seems to be very popular in the left-wing media where certain feminist writers spout off about women being oppressed and the wage-gap myth."

Who writes the Simpsons?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"what seems to be forgotten in this disgusting misandry is this ... Who gave birth to men? That's right women, you did, shame on you.

"

You could have been aborted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"what seems to be forgotten in this disgusting misandry is this ... Who gave birth to men? That's right women, you did, shame on you.

You could have been aborted "

And yet women have been in a negative light for years, being only there as a sex appeal, but I guess that's ok to you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You really think men are demonised, as opposed to specific men or male characters?"

I dunno when a university diveristy officer can put up signs saying no straight wite men or kill all cis men and not even get a suspension deapite national coverage it is worrying.

Especially with the new definitions for racism and sexism being pushed theae days in which being racist or sexist requires "power" and the only people with "power" are white men and as such you cannot be racist or sexist against them as you ahve no "power" so its totaly fine.

Then theres those domestic abuse adverts with the body parts where every negative was aimed directly at men not women.

That the government somestic abuse page has a helpline for women suffering from abuse.

But for men it has a helpline for those worried they're going to abuse their wives and girlfriends.

There does seem to be an institutionalisation of sexism against men in what should be suportive arears

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By *exyLancs2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"what seems to be forgotten in this disgusting misandry is this ... Who gave birth to men? That's right women, you did, shame on you.

You could have been aborted

And yet women have been in a negative light for years, being only there as a sex appeal, but I guess that's ok to you "

Does disagreeing with negative portrayal of men necessarily mean endorsement of negative female sentiment? Don't think thats what he said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You really think men are demonised, as opposed to specific men or male characters?

I dunno when a university diveristy officer can put up signs saying no straight wite men or kill all cis men and not even get a suspension deapite national coverage it is worrying.

Especially with the new definitions for racism and sexism being pushed theae days in which being racist or sexist requires "power" and the only people with "power" are white men and as such you cannot be racist or sexist against them as you ahve no "power" so its totaly fine.

Then theres those domestic abuse adverts with the body parts where every negative was aimed directly at men not women.

That the government somestic abuse page has a helpline for women suffering from abuse.

But for men it has a helpline for those worried they're going to abuse their wives and girlfriends.

There does seem to be an institutionalisation of sexism against men in what should be suportive arears "

You're right, but do you really believe men are only depicted as stupid, incapable victims or nasty in the media? Do you think there aren't any male excellent protagonists, only antagonists?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"what seems to be forgotten in this disgusting misandry is this ... Who gave birth to men? That's right women, you did, shame on you.

You could have been aborted "

SHAME!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You really think men are demonised, as opposed to specific men or male characters?

I dunno when a university diveristy officer can put up signs saying no straight wite men or kill all cis men and not even get a suspension deapite national coverage it is worrying.

Especially with the new definitions for racism and sexism being pushed theae days in which being racist or sexist requires "power" and the only people with "power" are white men and as such you cannot be racist or sexist against them as you ahve no "power" so its totaly fine.

Then theres those domestic abuse adverts with the body parts where every negative was aimed directly at men not women.

That the government somestic abuse page has a helpline for women suffering from abuse.

But for men it has a helpline for those worried they're going to abuse their wives and girlfriends.

There does seem to be an institutionalisation of sexism against men in what should be suportive arears

You're right, but do you really believe men are only depicted as stupid, incapable victims or nasty in the media? Do you think there aren't any male excellent protagonists, only antagonists?"

ih yeah in tv series etc men are definitly the boss.

Advertising for products aimed at women obviously men are the baffoon stooge of the peice as they aint the target market so you can piss them off all you like

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You really think men are demonised, as opposed to specific men or male characters?

I dunno when a university diveristy officer can put up signs saying no straight wite men or kill all cis men and not even get a suspension deapite national coverage it is worrying.

Especially with the new definitions for racism and sexism being pushed theae days in which being racist or sexist requires "power" and the only people with "power" are white men and as such you cannot be racist or sexist against them as you ahve no "power" so its totaly fine.

Then theres those domestic abuse adverts with the body parts where every negative was aimed directly at men not women.

That the government somestic abuse page has a helpline for women suffering from abuse.

But for men it has a helpline for those worried they're going to abuse their wives and girlfriends.

There does seem to be an institutionalisation of sexism against men in what should be suportive arears

You're right, but do you really believe men are only depicted as stupid, incapable victims or nasty in the media? Do you think there aren't any male excellent protagonists, only antagonists?

ih yeah in tv series etc men are definitly the boss.

Advertising for products aimed at women obviously men are the baffoon stooge of the peice as they aint the target market so you can piss them off all you like "

There's lots of adverts where men save the day or are the beautiful model themselves (most aftershaves, for example).

It's a blinkered view to say men are only antagonists, or stupid in media.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You really think men are demonised, as opposed to specific men or male characters?

I dunno when a university diveristy officer can put up signs saying no straight wite men or kill all cis men and not even get a suspension deapite national coverage it is worrying.

Especially with the new definitions for racism and sexism being pushed theae days in which being racist or sexist requires "power" and the only people with "power" are white men and as such you cannot be racist or sexist against them as you ahve no "power" so its totaly fine.

Then theres those domestic abuse adverts with the body parts where every negative was aimed directly at men not women.

That the government somestic abuse page has a helpline for women suffering from abuse.

But for men it has a helpline for those worried they're going to abuse their wives and girlfriends.

There does seem to be an institutionalisation of sexism against men in what should be suportive arears

You're right, but do you really believe men are only depicted as stupid, incapable victims or nasty in the media? Do you think there aren't any male excellent protagonists, only antagonists?

ih yeah in tv series etc men are definitly the boss.

Advertising for products aimed at women obviously men are the baffoon stooge of the peice as they aint the target market so you can piss them off all you like

There's lots of adverts where men save the day or are the beautiful model themselves (most aftershaves, for example).

It's a blinkered view to say men are only antagonists, or stupid in media. "

Ah thats where the male is the target market.

Although i would say the news is usualy skewed towards the men are bastards and women are innocent victims

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You really think men are demonised, as opposed to specific men or male characters?

I dunno when a university diveristy officer can put up signs saying no straight wite men or kill all cis men and not even get a suspension deapite national coverage it is worrying.

Especially with the new definitions for racism and sexism being pushed theae days in which being racist or sexist requires "power" and the only people with "power" are white men and as such you cannot be racist or sexist against them as you ahve no "power" so its totaly fine.

Then theres those domestic abuse adverts with the body parts where every negative was aimed directly at men not women.

That the government somestic abuse page has a helpline for women suffering from abuse.

But for men it has a helpline for those worried they're going to abuse their wives and girlfriends.

There does seem to be an institutionalisation of sexism against men in what should be suportive arears

You're right, but do you really believe men are only depicted as stupid, incapable victims or nasty in the media? Do you think there aren't any male excellent protagonists, only antagonists?

ih yeah in tv series etc men are definitly the boss.

Advertising for products aimed at women obviously men are the baffoon stooge of the peice as they aint the target market so you can piss them off all you like

There's lots of adverts where men save the day or are the beautiful model themselves (most aftershaves, for example).

It's a blinkered view to say men are only antagonists, or stupid in media.

Ah thats where the male is the target market.

Although i would say the news is usualy skewed towards the men are bastards and women are innocent victims"

Except when it's the opposite way - hero policeman, hero firefighter, evil paedophile female teacher, evil mother who killed child in her care.

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By *omersetfun15Couple
over a year ago

bridgwater

Whos turn is it to do the washing up ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Whos turn is it to do the washing up ?"

Maybe if the men did it more, they'd get more positive press

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


"With virtually every T.v. Advert and woman's magazine and soap opera demonising men to the point where we are just seen as two legged cockeroaches "

Congrats, that's the biggest load of bullshit I've read so far this month!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh the joy of confirmation bias, people will see what they want to see, or are conditioned to see

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Whos turn is it to do the washing up ?

Maybe if the men did it more, they'd get more positive press "

Right I've done washing up, what now?

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By *omersetfun15Couple
over a year ago

bridgwater


"Whos turn is it to do the washing up ?

Maybe if the men did it more, they'd get more positive press

Right I've done washing up, what now? "

Ive just done the washing and ironing on my day off !!

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Generally speaking, yes, they are. Homer Simpson, various characters in sitcoms and such like. Men are depicted as useless and generally fumbling. Man 'bashing' also seems to be very popular in the left-wing media where certain feminist writers spout off about women being oppressed and the wage-gap myth.

What about the larger number of excellent men depicted in different types of media? Like the fantastic, intelligent detectives in every drama show pretty much all being men for one.

Is this entire post for real? I can't believe people truly believe men are only shown as underdogs in entertainment/media. It's mad."

How about:

Vera

Murder She wrote

Dana Scully (fbi)

Juliet Bravo

Cagney & Lacey

Heathjer Locklear in tj hooker....

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

See in my opinion, the underlying question that the op is asking is, are feminists an feminism going to far?

Are feminists not actually trying to gain equality for the sexes and actually aiming for female superiority?

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Do people just enjoy working themselves up in to lathers?

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Do people just enjoy working themselves up in to lathers? "

Oh yes please...lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You really think men are demonised, as opposed to specific men or male characters?

I dunno when a university diveristy officer can put up signs saying no straight wite men or kill all cis men and not even get a suspension deapite national coverage it is worrying.

Especially with the new definitions for racism and sexism being pushed theae days in which being racist or sexist requires "power" and the only people with "power" are white men and as such you cannot be racist or sexist against them as you ahve no "power" so its totaly fine.

Then theres those domestic abuse adverts with the body parts where every negative was aimed directly at men not women.

That the government somestic abuse page has a helpline for women suffering from abuse.

But for men it has a helpline for those worried they're going to abuse their wives and girlfriends.

There does seem to be an institutionalisation of sexism against men in what should be suportive arears

You're right, but do you really believe men are only depicted as stupid, incapable victims or nasty in the media? Do you think there aren't any male excellent protagonists, only antagonists?

ih yeah in tv series etc men are definitly the boss.

Advertising for products aimed at women obviously men are the baffoon stooge of the peice as they aint the target market so you can piss them off all you like

There's lots of adverts where men save the day or are the beautiful model themselves (most aftershaves, for example).

It's a blinkered view to say men are only antagonists, or stupid in media.

Ah thats where the male is the target market.

Although i would say the news is usualy skewed towards the men are bastards and women are innocent victims

Except when it's the opposite way - hero policeman, hero firefighter, evil paedophile female teacher, evil mother who killed child in her care. "

Nah look at how teachers sleeping with students is reported.

You'll never read about a male teacher "seducing" a female student but thats always how its written when a female teach sleeps with a male student.

Cant remember the last time i saw a hero fireman/policeman story tbh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With virtually every T.v. Advert and woman's magazine and soap opera demonising men to the point where we are just seen as two legged cockeroaches , I would like to shine a light in this dark murky tunnel and share a positive story about a man I read recently in a magazine . It was about a head sherpa called Lhakpa Tenzing who has climbed Mount Everest 21 times on expeditions for affluent westerners . No body has scaled Everest more times than him . When asked was he proud of this unbelievable achievement he replied " I would have prefered to be a doctor , but I need the money for my children . That's the reason why I climb mountains , so they don't have to . " Humbling . "

humbling yes...however, Lhakpa Tensing was always going to be a mountain climber, starting his career as a Sherpa for the teams trekking up Everest and then eventually being given the chance to climb Everest himself. He actually moved himself and his family to the USA to give his children better schooling and when not mountaineering himself, he works for a local company to earn money....so I don't think becoming a doctor was ever really on his agenda, and by saying it might have been kind of takes away from the mountain climbing records he has already broken, IMO

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Generally speaking, yes, they are. Homer Simpson, various characters in sitcoms and such like. Men are depicted as useless and generally fumbling. Man 'bashing' also seems to be very popular in the left-wing media where certain feminist writers spout off about women being oppressed and the wage-gap myth.

What about the larger number of excellent men depicted in different types of media? Like the fantastic, intelligent detectives in every drama show pretty much all being men for one.

Is this entire post for real? I can't believe people truly believe men are only shown as underdogs in entertainment/media. It's mad.

How about:

Vera

Murder She wrote

Dana Scully (fbi)

Juliet Bravo

Cagney & Lacey

Heathjer Locklear in tj hooker....

"

They're shows with a female lead. That's not relevant. You'd need to say shows where men are only bad or stupid.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"With virtually every T.v. Advert and woman's magazine and soap opera demonising men to the point where we are just seen as two legged cockeroaches , I would like to shine a light in this dark murky tunnel and share a positive story about a man I read recently in a magazine . It was about a head sherpa called Lhakpa Tenzing who has climbed Mount Everest 21 times on expeditions for affluent westerners . No body has scaled Everest more times than him . When asked was he proud of this unbelievable achievement he replied " I would have prefered to be a doctor , but I need the money for my children . That's the reason why I climb mountains , so they don't have to . " Humbling .

humbling yes...however, Lhakpa Tensing was always going to be a mountain climber, starting his career as a Sherpa for the teams trekking up Everest and then eventually being given the chance to climb Everest himself. He actually moved himself and his family to the USA to give his children better schooling and when not mountaineering himself, he works for a local company to earn money....so I don't think becoming a doctor was ever really on his agenda, and by saying it might have been kind of takes away from the mountain climbing records he has already broken, IMO "

Depends how good & how expensive medical school is in Nepal. Did he choose to be a Sherpa rather than go to college?

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Generally speaking, yes, they are. Homer Simpson, various characters in sitcoms and such like. Men are depicted as useless and generally fumbling. Man 'bashing' also seems to be very popular in the left-wing media where certain feminist writers spout off about women being oppressed and the wage-gap myth.

What about the larger number of excellent men depicted in different types of media? Like the fantastic, intelligent detectives in every drama show pretty much all being men for one.

Is this entire post for real? I can't believe people truly believe men are only shown as underdogs in entertainment/media. It's mad.

How about:

Vera

Murder She wrote

Dana Scully (fbi)

Juliet Bravo

Cagney & Lacey

Heathjer Locklear in tj hooker....

They're shows with a female lead. That's not relevant. You'd need to say shows where men are only bad or stupid. "

So are you saying that all the above were not fantastic intelligent female detectives?

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By *ali 69 OP   Man
over a year ago

jersey


"With virtually every T.v. Advert and woman's magazine and soap opera demonising men to the point where we are just seen as two legged cockeroaches , I would like to shine a light in this dark murky tunnel and share a positive story about a man I read recently in a magazine . It was about a head sherpa called Lhakpa Tenzing who has climbed Mount Everest 21 times on expeditions for affluent westerners . No body has scaled Everest more times than him . When asked was he proud of this unbelievable achievement he replied " I would have prefered to be a doctor , but I need the money for my children . That's the reason why I climb mountains , so they don't have to . " Humbling .

Is this just a shameless 'look at me' post?

Men! Pfft "
no , not at all . I was sharing the positive acheivements of a sherpa , the post is about him....not me .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not a 'look at me post', valid points made. When it comes to look at me posts/profiles, it has to be said that women get the medals there.

The OP made a good point about the portrayal of men in the media, be it newspapers or the sitcom type. If the roles were reversed and women were slated in a similar way and to a similar extent it would be classed as 'hate speech' and shut down very quickly.

"

Totally agree.

Although some males on here don't help themselves or the gender as a whole!

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I've not noticed it although I did watch Omen 3 the other night and Sam Neill was a bit horrid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Generally speaking, yes, they are. Homer Simpson, various characters in sitcoms and such like. Men are depicted as useless and generally fumbling. Man 'bashing' also seems to be very popular in the left-wing media where certain feminist writers spout off about women being oppressed and the wage-gap myth.

What about the larger number of excellent men depicted in different types of media? Like the fantastic, intelligent detectives in every drama show pretty much all being men for one.

Is this entire post for real? I can't believe people truly believe men are only shown as underdogs in entertainment/media. It's mad.

How about:

Vera

Murder She wrote

Dana Scully (fbi)

Juliet Bravo

Cagney & Lacey

Heathjer Locklear in tj hooker....

They're shows with a female lead. That's not relevant. You'd need to say shows where men are only bad or stupid.

So are you saying that all the above were not fantastic intelligent female detectives?

"

No I'm saying they're not examples of men being portrayed as bad or stupid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With virtually every T.v. Advert and woman's magazine and soap opera demonising men to the point where we are just seen as two legged cockeroaches , I would like to shine a light in this dark murky tunnel and share a positive story about a man I read recently in a magazine . It was about a head sherpa called Lhakpa Tenzing who has climbed Mount Everest 21 times on expeditions for affluent westerners . No body has scaled Everest more times than him . When asked was he proud of this unbelievable achievement he replied " I would have prefered to be a doctor , but I need the money for my children . That's the reason why I climb mountains , so they don't have to . " Humbling . "

Try not to watch ITV and you will be fine. It's all celebs and make up.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

Lets all just fuck each other and enjoy our differences. White men have had theur own way for far too long....discuss lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As an oppressed male, I find it very hard to live with the victimisation but luckily I'm unable to express my emotions so nobody will ever know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What the hell is going on in this thread? Have you lot just not seen any television shows or something?"

I'm really struhhling about the suggestion that media is biased against men

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"As an oppressed male, I find it very hard to live with the victimisation but luckily I'm unable to express my emotions so nobody will ever know "

Sorry, is that demonising and diminishing you?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"What the hell is going on in this thread? Have you lot just not seen any television shows or something?

I'm really struhhling about the suggestion that media is biased against men "

What, you mean that media that is largely controlled by men?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As an oppressed male, I find it very hard to live with the victimisation but luckily I'm unable to express my emotions so nobody will ever know

Sorry, is that demonising and diminishing you?

"

Both! We may have bossed you about for around 3000 years, but to show a man not being able to cook properly on the telly is just vindictive. For shame

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://youtu.be/lNlKjUfmaUA

This is what happened when people analysed the images of men and women published in The Sun over a 6 month period.

It;s pretty damning and sadly the Sun are very indicative of the nation's media

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"As an oppressed male, I find it very hard to live with the victimisation but luckily I'm unable to express my emotions so nobody will ever know

Sorry, is that demonising and diminishing you?

Both! We may have bossed you about for around 3000 years, but to show a man not being able to cook properly on the telly is just vindictive. For shame "

Meninist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With virtually every T.v. Advert and woman's magazine and soap opera demonising men to the point where we are just seen as two legged cockeroaches , I would like to shine a light in this dark murky tunnel and share a positive story about a man I read recently in a magazine . It was about a head sherpa called Lhakpa Tenzing who has climbed Mount Everest 21 times on expeditions for affluent westerners . No body has scaled Everest more times than him . When asked was he proud of this unbelievable achievement he replied " I would have prefered to be a doctor , but I need the money for my children . That's the reason why I climb mountains , so they don't have to . " Humbling . "

Personally I think that's a load of old bollocks!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"https://youtu.be/lNlKjUfmaUA

This is what happened when people analysed the images of men and women published in The Sun over a 6 month period.

It;s pretty damning and sadly the Sun are very indicative of the nation's media"

Thanks for this - I hadn't seen it before.

The Kirsty Wark Blurred Lines isn't available on the iPlayer but I think this is the whole programme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOce0pijzE0

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok hold on a minute dick owners. Man has been running this shit show we call a world for the last 2000 years and so far you have done a pretty shit job. Slavery and oppression, war on and industrial level and the persecution of every member of the human race, not a rich white man. So what are you bitches complaining about. You are still the rulers of this freak show and just because a few people are voicing their feelings about the fucking mess you have all made, you all lose your shit. We have been listening to your crap for thousands of years so yeah I think it is about time you put your cocks away, sit down and shut the Fuck up.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/501722

Everyone should watch the Grayson Perry series.

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