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"Part of me thinks if they are paying then they set the dress code. Part of the conditions of employment. Men probably have to wear a tie, but don't always want to. " ![]() | |||
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"Heeled shoes are not a part of health and safety. Heels make women more attractive to men. There are flat shoes that look smart with a skirt. I wonder if this company employs fat people who don't look good in pencil skirts or suits. Imagine a man getting sent home because his belly hangs over his belt. " The women took the job knowing the dress code. End of story really. Been offered quite a few office jobs but won't take them because I don't want to wear and suit and tie. Simples. | |||
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"Heeled shoes are not a part of health and safety. Heels make women more attractive to men. There are flat shoes that look smart with a skirt. I wonder if this company employs fat people who don't look good in pencil skirts or suits. Imagine a man getting sent home because his belly hangs over his belt. The women took the job knowing the dress code. End of story really. Been offered quite a few office jobs but won't take them because I don't want to wear and suit and tie. Simples. " well since you have stated 'end of' I guess that's the end of the debate! work dress codes are to ensure uniformity, to protect and to identify surely? what is the functional requirement for uncomfortable high heels. this smacks of HR twattery. ![]() | |||
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"some companies have weight rules, ie oil rigs etc, if someone is lying injured and needs to carried out, a 20 stone man carried on a stretcher up staircases, puts others at risk" yes but that's specific to the function of the job, like having a 4ft, 6stone fire fighter isn't going to work. shoes, bit different. | |||
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"some companies have weight rules, ie oil rigs etc, if someone is lying injured and needs to carried out, a 20 stone man carried on a stretcher up staircases, puts others at risk" That's a health and safety issue though. If anything heels can be a risk to health and safety. Quite regularly see ankle inversion injuries in A&E due to women falling off their heeled shoes. | |||
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"It's indicative of the mentality of the company and people running it. Are your receptionists capable professionals on a par with all your other valued employees, or are you simply employing people to look pretty. Not OK in 2016. Tidy, smart footwear should be the only requirement. " ![]() | |||
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"It's indicative of the mentality of the company and people running it. Are your receptionists capable professionals on a par with all your other valued employees, or are you simply employing people to look pretty. Not OK in 2016. Tidy, smart footwear should be the only requirement. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Heeled shoes are not a part of health and safety. Heels make women more attractive to men. There are flat shoes that look smart with a skirt. I wonder if this company employs fat people who don't look good in pencil skirts or suits. Imagine a man getting sent home because his belly hangs over his belt. " | |||
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"Fine this hard to believe this is even in the news, surely they has to be more important things going on in the world then a ladies shoes ![]() You might not say that if you had to wear them all day | |||
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"receptionist at a top firm sent home with no pay for not wearing heels, they gave her the choice of 2inch heels, this is now to be debated in parliment. two sides to this some firms have dress code, and should have been aware of this, she is on a 9 hr shift but i doubt if she walked the full shift, reception is usually a seated position, and if it was me wearing heels slip them off under the desk. some building firms insist you wear hats gloves etc, even in a open field, BT sack people if they dont wear a hard hat even if working in the street connecting in a pavement box there is no risk of falling objects except bird shit. she could end up on a blacklist as some major companies have a common database" is high heels PPE I think not | |||
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"receptionist at a top firm sent home with no pay for not wearing heels, they gave her the choice of 2inch heels, this is now to be debated in parliment. two sides to this some firms have dress code, and should have been aware of this, she is on a 9 hr shift but i doubt if she walked the full shift, reception is usually a seated position, and if it was me wearing heels slip them off under the desk. some building firms insist you wear hats gloves etc, even in a open field, BT sack people if they dont wear a hard hat even if working in the street connecting in a pavement box there is no risk of falling objects except bird shit. she could end up on a blacklist as some major companies have a common databaseis high heels PPE I think not " never said they were but i wouldnt like it if i turned up to international company, and greeted by someone in a tracksuit looking like vicky pollard, as for PPE some companies go OTT | |||
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"If a woman came into my bed wearing flats instead of heels I'd send her home as well. JOKE!!!!! ![]() Lol when I read the article earliar in the week I did think the same ![]() | |||
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"Heeled shoes are not a part of health and safety." That depends on your work environment, the job your doing. | |||
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"If a woman came into my bed wearing flats instead of heels I'd send her home as well. JOKE!!!!! ![]() ![]() Really? I always wear flats during the day x | |||
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"receptionist at a top firm sent home with no pay for not wearing heels, they gave her the choice of 2inch heels, this is now to be debated in parliment. two sides to this some firms have dress code, and should have been aware of this, she is on a 9 hr shift but i doubt if she walked the full shift, reception is usually a seated position, and if it was me wearing heels slip them off under the desk. some building firms insist you wear hats gloves etc, even in a open field, BT sack people if they dont wear a hard hat even if working in the street connecting in a pavement box there is no risk of falling objects except bird shit. she could end up on a blacklist as some major companies have a common database" Clear gender discrimination in my view. And what if, like me, she had arthritis in her knees. O couldn't wear even 2 inch heels all week. I'd be crucified by the pain. Fucking PWC. Get into the 21st century. | |||
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"receptionist at a top firm sent home with no pay for not wearing heels, they gave her the choice of 2inch heels, this is now to be debated in parliment. two sides to this some firms have dress code, and should have been aware of this, she is on a 9 hr shift but i doubt if she walked the full shift, reception is usually a seated position, and if it was me wearing heels slip them off under the desk. some building firms insist you wear hats gloves etc, even in a open field, BT sack people if they dont wear a hard hat even if working in the street connecting in a pavement box there is no risk of falling objects except bird shit. she could end up on a blacklist as some major companies have a common database Clear gender discrimination in my view. And what if, like me, she had arthritis in her knees. O couldn't wear even 2 inch heels all week. I'd be crucified by the pain. Fucking PWC. Get into the 21st century. " 'I' | |||
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"If a woman came into my bed wearing flats instead of heels I'd send her home as well. JOKE!!!!! ![]() ![]() That's OK as long as your not wearing them in bed ![]() | |||
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"receptionist at a top firm sent home with no pay for not wearing heels, they gave her the choice of 2inch heels, this is now to be debated in parliment. two sides to this some firms have dress code, and should have been aware of this, she is on a 9 hr shift but i doubt if she walked the full shift, reception is usually a seated position, and if it was me wearing heels slip them off under the desk. some building firms insist you wear hats gloves etc, even in a open field, BT sack people if they dont wear a hard hat even if working in the street connecting in a pavement box there is no risk of falling objects except bird shit. she could end up on a blacklist as some major companies have a common database" #1st world problems. Am sure someone living under the threat of beheading and rape in some village somewhere is probably very shocked at this horrific story. No doubt she will get a gob load of money for breaking her human rights and so on.... Meanwhile back in the real world, some of us are happy just to have a job. | |||
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"If it is uniform policy, can she actually do anything. The place I work has started enforcing the girls to wear heels, when they complain it is mentioned that it company policy." Company policy means nothing if theres not a genuine reason for it being in the policy. If you can argue its a stupid rule then you can yes xx | |||
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"If a woman came into my bed wearing flats instead of heels I'd send her home as well. JOKE!!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() Well you would know ![]() | |||
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"If it is uniform policy, can she actually do anything. The place I work has started enforcing the girls to wear heels, when they complain it is mentioned that it company policy." Do the men wear heels ? | |||
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"receptionist at a top firm sent home with no pay for not wearing heels, they gave her the choice of 2inch heels, this is now to be debated in parliment. two sides to this some firms have dress code, and should have been aware of this, she is on a 9 hr shift but i doubt if she walked the full shift, reception is usually a seated position, and if it was me wearing heels slip them off under the desk. some building firms insist you wear hats gloves etc, even in a open field, BT sack people if they dont wear a hard hat even if working in the street connecting in a pavement box there is no risk of falling objects except bird shit. she could end up on a blacklist as some major companies have a common database #1st world problems. Am sure someone living under the threat of beheading and rape in some village somewhere is probably very shocked at this horrific story. No doubt she will get a gob load of money for breaking her human rights and so on.... Meanwhile back in the real world, some of us are happy just to have a job. " Yeah. I think if they wanted to bind womens feet like the Japanese used to we should be happy about it and just get on. | |||
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"If it is uniform policy, can she actually do anything. The place I work has started enforcing the girls to wear heels, when they complain it is mentioned that it company policy. Do the men wear heels ?" Most smart men's shoes have heels, so yes. You wouldn't want them wearing deck shoes | |||
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"Fine this hard to believe this is even in the news, surely they has to be more important things going on in the world then a ladies shoes ![]() Yes. Lot's more important things than 'ladies' shoes.... Like discrimination for example | |||
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"If it is uniform policy, can she actually do anything. The place I work has started enforcing the girls to wear heels, when they complain it is mentioned that it company policy. Do the men wear heels ? Most smart men's shoes have heels, so yes. You wouldn't want them wearing deck shoes" Well yes Mr D. but no one insists that men wear 2" to 4" heels... not the natural virtually flat thing | |||
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"If it is uniform policy, can she actually do anything. The place I work has started enforcing the girls to wear heels, when they complain it is mentioned that it company policy. Do the men wear heels ?" men will be expected to wear ties, years ago even manual workers wore ties, my dad was a foreman in a factory he wore a tie. air stewardess wear uniform tights or stockings even in hot climates, they normally wear low heels as they are on their feet, as i said before receptionist could slip her shoes off under desk, as most sit and answer phone, and deal with visitors, put shoes on when leave desk, 2inch heels are not to bad on the feet, 4 inch can be hard work | |||
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"If it is uniform policy, can she actually do anything. The place I work has started enforcing the girls to wear heels, when they complain it is mentioned that it company policy." If company policy is proven to be breaking current UK legislation it means nothing. Fuck company policy - that's not law and they are taking the piss. | |||
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"I've read MORE than half way down. Apologies if someone said this on the ones I haven't read. The company were out of order. What they were doing is illegal AS..... they don't insist that men wear heels and therefore shouldn't insist that women do. I'm amazed none of the above posters realise this. It's gender discriminatory. " ![]() | |||
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"If it is uniform policy, can she actually do anything. The place I work has started enforcing the girls to wear heels, when they complain it is mentioned that it company policy. Do the men wear heels ?men will be expected to wear ties, years ago even manual workers wore ties, my dad was a foreman in a factory he wore a tie. air stewardess wear uniform tights or stockings even in hot climates, they normally wear low heels as they are on their feet, as i said before receptionist could slip her shoes off under desk, as most sit and answer phone, and deal with visitors, put shoes on when leave desk, 2inch heels are not to bad on the feet, 4 inch can be hard work" Maybes.. but I asked if the men wore heels. | |||
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"If it is uniform policy, can she actually do anything. The place I work has started enforcing the girls to wear heels, when they complain it is mentioned that it company policy. Do the men wear heels ?men will be expected to wear ties, years ago even manual workers wore ties, my dad was a foreman in a factory he wore a tie. air stewardess wear uniform tights or stockings even in hot climates, they normally wear low heels as they are on their feet, as i said before receptionist could slip her shoes off under desk, as most sit and answer phone, and deal with visitors, put shoes on when leave desk, 2inch heels are not to bad on the feet, 4 inch can be hard work Maybes.. but I asked if the men wore heels. " Two inches are bad when it's only women being made to wear them. | |||
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"Has it been said anywhere what shoes she was wearing? E.g were they smart flats or scabby old trainers?" If you had to guess? | |||
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"Has it been said anywhere what shoes she was wearing? E.g were they smart flats or scabby old trainers?" Have you not read the O.P? She was sent home for not wearing HEELS. | |||
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"Has it been said anywhere what shoes she was wearing? E.g were they smart flats or scabby old trainers? Have you not read the O.P? She was sent home for not wearing HEELS." That him TOLD granny ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"No offence people but a lot of drivel has been posted on the subject. Let's be clear, the job they wanted her to do was 'flirt with our sad middle aged male clients as you meet and greet them. You don't actually need to suck them off, just give them impression you would so they look forward to heir next visit here instead of deloitte'. The issue is that she turned up for a real job and expected to be treated like a human being instead of a piece of meat. Out-fucking-rageous. It's great that so many men are defending the companies right to objectify women, I certainly look forward to having my wife and daughters given token roles in big companies if they show a bit of flesh for the management." Fuck me, we actually agree on something. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"No offence people but a lot of drivel has been posted on the subject. Let's be clear, the job they wanted her to do was 'flirt with our sad middle aged male clients as you meet and greet them. You don't actually need to suck them off, just give them impression you would so they look forward to heir next visit here instead of deloitte'. The issue is that she turned up for a real job and expected to be treated like a human being instead of a piece of meat. Out-fucking-rageous. It's great that so many men are defending the companies right to objectify women, I certainly look forward to having my wife and daughters given token roles in big companies if they show a bit of flesh for the management. Fuck me, we actually agree on something. ![]() ![]() Thanks for the back handed compliment... | |||
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"No offence people but a lot of drivel has been posted on the subject. Let's be clear, the job they wanted her to do was 'flirt with our sad middle aged male clients as you meet and greet them. You don't actually need to suck them off, just give them impression you would so they look forward to heir next visit here instead of deloitte'. The issue is that she turned up for a real job and expected to be treated like a human being instead of a piece of meat. Out-fucking-rageous. It's great that so many men are defending the companies right to objectify women, I certainly look forward to having my wife and daughters given token roles in big companies if they show a bit of flesh for the management. Fuck me, we actually agree on something. ![]() ![]() It wasn't a back handed anything. I'm many things, but bitchy isn't one of them. ![]() | |||
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"No offence people but a lot of drivel has been posted on the subject. Let's be clear, the job they wanted her to do was 'flirt with our sad middle aged male clients as you meet and greet them. You don't actually need to suck them off, just give them impression you would so they look forward to heir next visit here instead of deloitte'. The issue is that she turned up for a real job and expected to be treated like a human being instead of a piece of meat. Out-fucking-rageous. It's great that so many men are defending the companies right to objectify women, I certainly look forward to having my wife and daughters given token roles in big companies if they show a bit of flesh for the management. Fuck me, we actually agree on something. ![]() ![]() ![]() This whole story reminded me of that episode in the IT crowd when Jen applies for the role of events manager... | |||
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" This whole story reminded me of that episode in the IT crowd when Jen applies for the role of events manager... " "HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, it's not for *you*, Jen" ![]() | |||
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"No offence people but a lot of drivel has been posted on the subject. Let's be clear, the job they wanted her to do was 'flirt with our sad middle aged male clients as you meet and greet them. You don't actually need to suck them off, just give them impression you would so they look forward to heir next visit here instead of deloitte'. The issue is that she turned up for a real job and expected to be treated like a human being instead of a piece of meat. Out-fucking-rageous. It's great that so many men are defending the companies right to objectify women, I certainly look forward to having my wife and daughters given token roles in big companies if they show a bit of flesh for the management. Fuck me, we actually agree on something. ![]() ![]() ![]() I don't have a TV, but I, like you hope my daughter doesn't have to pander to this mysogynistic bullshit when she is old enough to join the workforce. | |||
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"No offence people but a lot of drivel has been posted on the subject. Let's be clear, the job they wanted her to do was 'flirt with our sad middle aged male clients as you meet and greet them. You don't actually need to suck them off, just give them impression you would so they look forward to heir next visit here instead of deloitte'. The issue is that she turned up for a real job and expected to be treated like a human being instead of a piece of meat. Out-fucking-rageous. It's great that so many men are defending the companies right to objectify women, I certainly look forward to having my wife and daughters given token roles in big companies if they show a bit of flesh for the management. Fuck me, we actually agree on something. ![]() ![]() ![]() Every man has a mother, most have wives and quite a lot have daughters. It's completely against our self interest to tolerate this bullshit. There are some sad men who think women are there to brighten up the place and those people need to change their attitude or take early retirement. | |||
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"It's indicative of the mentality of the company and people running it. Are your receptionists capable professionals on a par with all your other valued employees " Surely the answer to this is no. If they were a professional on a par with the companies core employees they would be doing that role. As it stands though they're the office equivalent of unskilled labour and in a role where thier initial impression when they greet somone is probbaly the most significant part of thier role. | |||
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"It's indicative of the mentality of the company and people running it. Are your receptionists capable professionals on a par with all your other valued employees Surely the answer to this is no. If they were a professional on a par with the companies core employees they would be doing that role. As it stands though they're the office equivalent of unskilled labour and in a role where thier initial impression when they greet somone is probbaly the most significant part of thier role. " And their shoes have some bearing on this? | |||
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"It's indicative of the mentality of the company and people running it. Are your receptionists capable professionals on a par with all your other valued employees Surely the answer to this is no. If they were a professional on a par with the companies core employees they would be doing that role. As it stands though they're the office equivalent of unskilled labour and in a role where thier initial impression when they greet somone is probbaly the most significant part of thier role. " I started out on reception and have recruited and employed many receptionists. That initial impression isn't just about being clean and well presented but about attitude and aptitude. As to requirement to wear heels it's nonsense. Smart, flat shoes (similar to men's brogues) would be fine but this case is about something else. I'd rather be able to do my job without crippling my feet. | |||
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"It's indicative of the mentality of the company and people running it. Are your receptionists capable professionals on a par with all your other valued employees Surely the answer to this is no. If they were a professional on a par with the companies core employees they would be doing that role. As it stands though they're the office equivalent of unskilled labour and in a role where thier initial impression when they greet somone is probbaly the most significant part of thier role. " Anyone that knows how to run an organisation properly treats anyone working there with a baseline level of respect. Whether she is highly skilled or not is irrelevant. It was often said of Sir Alex Ferguson that he knew the names of everyone at Old Trafford from the cleaners and dinner ladies to the youth team players. He spoke to all of them and drove a culture that kept the lid on the egos of people that would otherwise act like divas and destroy the spirit of the place. | |||
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"It's indicative of the mentality of the company and people running it. Are your receptionists capable professionals on a par with all your other valued employees Surely the answer to this is no. If they were a professional on a par with the companies core employees they would be doing that role. As it stands though they're the office equivalent of unskilled labour and in a role where thier initial impression when they greet somone is probbaly the most significant part of thier role. And their shoes have some bearing on this?" Did i say that? | |||
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"It's indicative of the mentality of the company and people running it. Are your receptionists capable professionals on a par with all your other valued employees Surely the answer to this is no. If they were a professional on a par with the companies core employees they would be doing that role. As it stands though they're the office equivalent of unskilled labour and in a role where thier initial impression when they greet somone is probbaly the most significant part of thier role. Anyone that knows how to run an organisation properly treats anyone working there with a baseline level of respect. Whether she is highly skilled or not is irrelevant. It was often said of Sir Alex Ferguson that he knew the names of everyone at Old Trafford from the cleaners and dinner ladies to the youth team players. He spoke to all of them and drove a culture that kept the lid on the egos of people that would otherwise act like divas and destroy the spirit of the place. " Damn those diva dinner ladies... | |||
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"It's indicative of the mentality of the company and people running it. Are your receptionists capable professionals on a par with all your other valued employees Surely the answer to this is no. If they were a professional on a par with the companies core employees they would be doing that role. As it stands though they're the office equivalent of unskilled labour and in a role where thier initial impression when they greet somone is probbaly the most significant part of thier role. And their shoes have some bearing on this? Did i say that?" Whats your point, then? | |||
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"It's indicative of the mentality of the company and people running it. Are your receptionists capable professionals on a par with all your other valued employees Surely the answer to this is no. If they were a professional on a par with the companies core employees they would be doing that role. As it stands though they're the office equivalent of unskilled labour and in a role where thier initial impression when they greet somone is probbaly the most significant part of thier role. " 'Unskilled labour'? I don't know a single receptionist who isn't degree educated, hasn't high level communication and diplomatic skills and aren't well versed in every aspect of the company/organisation. You honestly think that corporations select people 'without skills' to be their most public face? That's rather ignorant of you. | |||
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"my brother said men wore cuban heels in the early sixties, they were 2 inch, and he was told not to come to school in them again" I still have a pair of Cuban heeled boots. I look rather fetching in them. | |||
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"receptionist at a top firm sent home with no pay for not wearing heels, they gave her the choice of 2inch heels, this is now to be debated in parliment. two sides to this some firms have dress code, and should have been aware of this, she is on a 9 hr shift but i doubt if she walked the full shift, reception is usually a seated position, and if it was me wearing heels slip them off under the desk. some building firms insist you wear hats gloves etc, even in a open field, BT sack people if they dont wear a hard hat even if working in the street connecting in a pavement box there is no risk of falling objects except bird shit. she could end up on a blacklist as some major companies have a common database" Quite disgusting some people forget,feminist are the only people,who have the right to dictate,what other females wear. TUT tut tut. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"when I ran a team I got into a shit storm of agro over dress code for insisting no lose clothing e.g. ties or necklaces and arms bare from the elbow down when working. The policy had good reason, for safety of both the staff and the kit we worked on. but a female employee decided it was sexist to insist on no sleeves and I spent 10's of hours in meetings because of her objection. All it achieved was me giving her shit desk based work, and having to fight very hard against my prejudice when interviewing women in the future. Dress code is silly, but some people have no common sense, so rules get written. If the code exists when you take the job then just stick to it, if there is a part of th code that is wrong discuss it with the manager, but don't ignore it then go to the press / mp etc. " Why would it be sexist not to have sleeves? | |||
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"receptionist at a top firm sent home with no pay for not wearing heels, they gave her the choice of 2inch heels, this is now to be debated in parliment. two sides to this some firms have dress code, and should have been aware of this, she is on a 9 hr shift but i doubt if she walked the full shift, reception is usually a seated position, and if it was me wearing heels slip them off under the desk. some building firms insist you wear hats gloves etc, even in a open field, BT sack people if they dont wear a hard hat even if working in the street connecting in a pavement box there is no risk of falling objects except bird shit. she could end up on a blacklist as some major companies have a common database Quite disgusting some people forget,feminist are the only people,who have the right to dictate,what other females wear. TUT tut tut. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"The company in question has now reversed its policy. Smart flat shoes are now acceptable. Quite right, too. It is, by the way, a health and safety issue, too. Constant wearing of high heels has been shown to lead to spinal issues." Best post on thread ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"when I ran a team I got into a shit storm of agro over dress code for insisting no lose clothing e.g. ties or necklaces and arms bare from the elbow down when working. The policy had good reason, for safety of both the staff and the kit we worked on. but a female employee decided it was sexist to insist on no sleeves and I spent 10's of hours in meetings because of her objection. All it achieved was me giving her shit desk based work, and having to fight very hard against my prejudice when interviewing women in the future. Dress code is silly, but some people have no common sense, so rules get written. If the code exists when you take the job then just stick to it, if there is a part of th code that is wrong discuss it with the manager, but don't ignore it then go to the press / mp etc. Why would it be sexist not to have sleeves? " I know! especially when the policy applied to both men and women. and I did eventually win the point, but the ride was not comfortable. | |||
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"when I ran a team I got into a shit storm of agro over dress code for insisting no lose clothing e.g. ties or necklaces and arms bare from the elbow down when working. The policy had good reason, for safety of both the staff and the kit we worked on. but a female employee decided it was sexist to insist on no sleeves and I spent 10's of hours in meetings because of her objection. All it achieved was me giving her shit desk based work, and having to fight very hard against my prejudice when interviewing women in the future. Dress code is silly, but some people have no common sense, so rules get written. If the code exists when you take the job then just stick to it, if there is a part of th code that is wrong discuss it with the manager, but don't ignore it then go to the press / mp etc. " Just because she said it was sexist doesn't make it so. Your bosses gave her ' desk work' for her own safety. I'd say your bosses are at fault , not her. | |||
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"Ok lets get a few facts straight. Sent home without pay for not warring heels. 1. Without due proccess disaplimary action ( acas code complient) this is a breach of contract by the employer and a wages claim to an employment tribunal. 2. Dress codes cannot stipulate types of shoes unless it is for health and safty reasons. It can stipulate colour but not type. 3. Black listing. If anyone proves this data bases exists than i suggest you look at the book by Dave Smith on the subject in the building trade. The companies will soon be paying out Millions on compensation as a result of recent court rulling. 4. TUC policy is the ban High Heels at work as the pediatrists union passed a motion on them bassed on the damage they do to womans feet and joints. Good luck to the woman i say about time people were respected at work for thier work and not thier looks!" another good common sense post, lets hope she takes them to court, she will win. | |||
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"If it is uniform policy, can she actually do anything. The place I work has started enforcing the girls to wear heels, when they complain it is mentioned that it company policy. Company policy means nothing if theres not a genuine reason for it being in the policy. If you can argue its a stupid rule then you can yes xx" But if you are a trolley dolly then you are expected to wear heels, as it is company image. | |||
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"Has it been said anywhere what shoes she was wearing? E.g were they smart flats or scabby old trainers? Have you not read the O.P? She was sent home for not wearing HEELS. That him TOLD granny ![]() ![]() ![]() Yes I saw that she was sent home for not wearing heels. I was asking what type flat shoes was she wearing | |||
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" another good common sense post, lets hope she takes them to court, she will win...." ...and lose of course. In the world of Google, who needs a blacklist when your one moment of fame, and name, is in the public domain forever. (I wonder how Charlotte Proudman is getting on with her job-hunting....) ![]() | |||
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"If I worked for an employer who tried to force me to wear heels I'd be going straight to the union and then to the doctor. I wouldn't risk my knees or achillies tendons for any job" 2 questions: 1 Would you apply for, and accept a job that had a heels dress code? 2 Why would you go to the Union and GP instead of talking to your manager? | |||
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"It's indicative of the mentality of the company and people running it. Are your receptionists capable professionals on a par with all your other valued employees Surely the answer to this is no. If they were a professional on a par with the companies core employees they would be doing that role. As it stands though they're the office equivalent of unskilled labour and in a role where thier initial impression when they greet somone is probbaly the most significant part of thier role. 'Unskilled labour'? I don't know a single receptionist who isn't degree educated, hasn't high level communication and diplomatic skills and aren't well versed in every aspect of the company/organisation. You honestly think that corporations select people 'without skills' to be their most public face? That's rather ignorant of you." I was going to keep shtum but someone else has said it for me. I was trained as a secretary: typing in two alphabets (this was not in the UK), shorthand, English for business... Never once weRe we told we HAD TO wear heels. With my wide and high size 2 feet whoever told me this would have had to pay for them | |||
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"Ok lets get a few facts straight. Sent home without pay for not warring heels. 1. Without due proccess disaplimary action ( acas code complient) this is a breach of contract by the employer and a wages claim to an employment tribunal. 2. Dress codes cannot stipulate types of shoes unless it is for health and safty reasons. It can stipulate colour but not type. 3. Black listing. If anyone proves this data bases exists than i suggest you look at the book by Dave Smith on the subject in the building trade. The companies will soon be paying out Millions on compensation as a result of recent court rulling. 4. TUC policy is the ban High Heels at work as the pediatrists union passed a motion on them bassed on the damage they do to womans feet and joints. Good luck to the woman i say about time people were respected at work for thier work and not thier looks! another good common sense post, lets hope she takes them to court, she will win." Other than the fact she wasn't an employee... | |||
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"Ok lets get a few facts straight. Sent home without pay for not warring heels. 1. Without due proccess disaplimary action ( acas code complient) this is a breach of contract by the employer and a wages claim to an employment tribunal. 2. Dress codes cannot stipulate types of shoes unless it is for health and safty reasons. It can stipulate colour but not type. 3. Black listing. If anyone proves this data bases exists than i suggest you look at the book by Dave Smith on the subject in the building trade. The companies will soon be paying out Millions on compensation as a result of recent court rulling. 4. TUC policy is the ban High Heels at work as the pediatrists union passed a motion on them bassed on the damage they do to womans feet and joints. Good luck to the woman i say about time people were respected at work for thier work and not thier looks! another good common sense post, lets hope she takes them to court, she will win. Other than the fact she wasn't an employee... " Yes she was. It was the agency who employed her. | |||
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"Ok lets get a few facts straight. Sent home without pay for not warring heels. 1. Without due proccess disaplimary action ( acas code complient) this is a breach of contract by the employer and a wages claim to an employment tribunal. 2. Dress codes cannot stipulate types of shoes unless it is for health and safty reasons. It can stipulate colour but not type. 3. Black listing. If anyone proves this data bases exists than i suggest you look at the book by Dave Smith on the subject in the building trade. The companies will soon be paying out Millions on compensation as a result of recent court rulling. 4. TUC policy is the ban High Heels at work as the pediatrists union passed a motion on them bassed on the damage they do to womans feet and joints. Good luck to the woman i say about time people were respected at work for thier work and not thier looks! another good common sense post, lets hope she takes them to court, she will win. Other than the fact she wasn't an employee... Yes she was. It was the agency who employed her. " It was PWC's policy. She wasn't an employee of PWC, she was a contractor. She doesn't have the right to unfair dismissal from PWC. | |||
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"Ok lets get a few facts straight. Sent home without pay for not warring heels. 1. Without due proccess disaplimary action ( acas code complient) this is a breach of contract by the employer and a wages claim to an employment tribunal. 2. Dress codes cannot stipulate types of shoes unless it is for health and safty reasons. It can stipulate colour but not type. 3. Black listing. If anyone proves this data bases exists than i suggest you look at the book by Dave Smith on the subject in the building trade. The companies will soon be paying out Millions on compensation as a result of recent court rulling. 4. TUC policy is the ban High Heels at work as the pediatrists union passed a motion on them bassed on the damage they do to womans feet and joints. Good luck to the woman i say about time people were respected at work for thier work and not thier looks! another good common sense post, lets hope she takes them to court, she will win. Other than the fact she wasn't an employee... Yes she was. It was the agency who employed her. It was PWC's policy. She wasn't an employee of PWC, she was a contractor. She doesn't have the right to unfair dismissal from PWC. " End user claims (dismisal from PWC ) are hellishly difficult and best avoided. The Agency is the employer otherwise and could be taken to tribunal on the growns that they have failed to protect the employee from a discriminatory and H&S breaching policy of the client under the liability of Duty of Care under the 1974 act. | |||
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"Ok lets get a few facts straight. Sent home without pay for not warring heels. 1. Without due proccess disaplimary action ( acas code complient) this is a breach of contract by the employer and a wages claim to an employment tribunal. 2. Dress codes cannot stipulate types of shoes unless it is for health and safty reasons. It can stipulate colour but not type. 3. Black listing. If anyone proves this data bases exists than i suggest you look at the book by Dave Smith on the subject in the building trade. The companies will soon be paying out Millions on compensation as a result of recent court rulling. 4. TUC policy is the ban High Heels at work as the pediatrists union passed a motion on them bassed on the damage they do to womans feet and joints. Good luck to the woman i say about time people were respected at work for thier work and not thier looks! another good common sense post, lets hope she takes them to court, she will win. Other than the fact she wasn't an employee... Yes she was. It was the agency who employed her. It was PWC's policy. She wasn't an employee of PWC, she was a contractor. She doesn't have the right to unfair dismissal from PWC. End user claims (dismisal from PWC ) are hellishly difficult and best avoided. The Agency is the employer otherwise and could be taken to tribunal on the growns that they have failed to protect the employee from a discriminatory and H&S breaching policy of the client under the liability of Duty of Care under the 1974 act." She isn't an employee of agency. She is an independent contractor. Legally they are different things. | |||
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"Ok lets get a few facts straight. Sent home without pay for not warring heels. 1. Without due proccess disaplimary action ( acas code complient) this is a breach of contract by the employer and a wages claim to an employment tribunal. 2. Dress codes cannot stipulate types of shoes unless it is for health and safty reasons. It can stipulate colour but not type. 3. Black listing. If anyone proves this data bases exists than i suggest you look at the book by Dave Smith on the subject in the building trade. The companies will soon be paying out Millions on compensation as a result of recent court rulling. 4. TUC policy is the ban High Heels at work as the pediatrists union passed a motion on them bassed on the damage they do to womans feet and joints. Good luck to the woman i say about time people were respected at work for thier work and not thier looks! another good common sense post, lets hope she takes them to court, she will win. Other than the fact she wasn't an employee... Yes she was. It was the agency who employed her. It was PWC's policy. She wasn't an employee of PWC, she was a contractor. She doesn't have the right to unfair dismissal from PWC. End user claims (dismisal from PWC ) are hellishly difficult and best avoided. The Agency is the employer otherwise and could be taken to tribunal on the growns that they have failed to protect the employee from a discriminatory and H&S breaching policy of the client under the liability of Duty of Care under the 1974 act. She isn't an employee of agency. She is an independent contractor. Legally they are different things." Yes well in that case it would be even more problamatic. She would have to sue PWC as a client in county court for breach of contract. More complicated and expensive but not impossible. This would be a commercial law case and not an employment law case. Interesting to see if she does. | |||
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