FabSwingers.com forum: if there's a god?

By *aucy3 OP Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

do you think,it'll make difference.what religion you are.

whether he lets you in or not????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope, none whatsoever. If you believe then you believe, regardless of what religion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If there is an omnipotent God it won't matter whether anyone believes in him or not, and if there isn't, the question is irrelevant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No Gods and precious few heroes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

99% of the time I don't believe in god, but there are times I call on him...oh god, yes i do....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No Gods and precious few heroes."

..but there's plenty on the dole

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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago

Livingston

Doesn't matter either way to me, I'm going down(stairs) anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doesnt matter at all, we are all going downstairs

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By *exyangietgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

edinburgh

There isn't one so stop being concerned about it and get on with making life as good as possible for you and everyone you can.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The dyslexic agnostic lies awake all night questioning the existence of Dog...

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By *aucy3 OP Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

i'm not worried.theres only dust and dirt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am a born again lapsed Roman Catholic. I figure my god lets me do what I want so long as i feel guilty about it once I have done it

Just as well realy...........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am a born again lapsed Roman Catholic. I figure my god lets me do what I want so long as i feel guilty about it once I have done it

Just as well realy..........."

I believe much of the Priesthood operate on the same assumption.

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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago

Livingston

"i'm not worried.theres only dust and dirt."

talking about your undercrackers again mdfil xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if there's a God and he has the power to create life at will, he's slightly above the level of needing people to bow, kneel and grovel before him every week.

I'd imagine that so long as he liked the cut of your jib (basically that you were an all round decent sort) you could pass the pearly gates....

In terms of God's existence I keep an open mind but do consider it more likely than not. But that's a whole new essay....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No Gods and precious few heroes.

..but there's plenty on the dole "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is a god if you believe in it.

Strange that even those who "dont" believe always pray to him if summat awful happens

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...........

In terms of God's existence I keep an open mind but do consider it more likely than not. But that's a whole new essay...."

Ricky Jervais got it about right

"The existence of God is not subjective. He either exists or he doesn’t. It’s not a matter of opinion. You can have your own opinions. But you can’t have your own facts."

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By *aucy3 OP Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

"i'm not worried.theres only dust and dirt.

talking about your undercrackers again mdfil xx"

mmdil when they turn to dust and dirt.there will a lot of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is a god if you believe in it.

Strange that even those who "dont" believe always pray to him if summat awful happens

It used to be said 'there are no atheists in the foxholes'.

You don't hear that so much nowadays.

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By *aucy3 OP Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

"i'm not worried.theres only dust and dirt.

talking about your undercrackers again mdfil xx"

mmdil when they turn to dust and dirt.there will a lot of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is a god if you believe in it.

Strange that even those who "dont" believe always pray to him if summat awful happens

I don't,

I cant see the point in praying to someone/something that I don't believe in.

And nope, i'm not an atheists, I just need to see something to believe in it.

Tony

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By *ibrosMan
over a year ago

harrow

I wonder whether members of the swinging community are in general religious. It seems to me the lifestyle isn't in keeping with the teachings of most religions.

That said, belief in God, shouldn't require adherence to a religion, but would God approve of swinging?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I was a God, with the power to create an entire universe and everything it, at will with absolutely nobody to answer to - why would I concern myself too much about a few billion bugs scuttling around a little rock in one tiny little corner of my universe?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm praying to him now for a meet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What's with the 'he' stuff ?

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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

"There is a god if you believe in it.

Strange that even those who "dont" believe always pray to him if summat awful happens

And every porn actress shouts his name the moment a cock goes anywhere near her, just like real life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...........

In terms of God's existence I keep an open mind but do consider it more likely than not. But that's a whole new essay....

Ricky Jervais got it about right

"The existence of God is not subjective. He either exists or he doesn’t. It’s not a matter of opinion. You can have your own opinions. But you can’t have your own facts.""

Ricky Gervais is a comedian. Millions of us have our own facts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is a god if you believe in it.

Strange that even those who "dont" believe always pray to him if summat awful happens

And every porn actress shouts his name the moment a cock goes anywhere near her, just like real life

Funny that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find the Bible slightly less believable than the Lord of the Rings.

Can't imagine why any rational person capable of reason or logic would subscribe to the idea of a 'god' or any other form of 'invisible sky wizard'.

Spot the atheist! lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know I am not God..

I believe in a force greater than myself....

God fer want of alternative word ..loves an sinful trier...

In a foxhole most pray to something .

Heaven or hell can be a place on earth...

Musings...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i think i will stand a better chance with Lucifer!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i think i will stand a better chance with Lucifer!

You and me both lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I read an interesting book on maths "Impossibility - The limits of science and the science of limits".

One of the areas it goes over is God, and that a truly omnipotent being would be able to make 2+2=5, which is outside the bounds of logic, and since our processes are are based on logic (even though they may not seem so at times

) a true God would be beyond our comprehension. If God is bound by logic (2+2=4) then it is not "God".

Personally I think the human "God" is just as Carl Sagan put it a "God of the gaps", to help fill in the blanks of what we don't understand and to give ourselves comfort or meaning to life. After all fly a 747 over medieval England and you'd expect a lot of religious fervour about it been a sign from God, not someone on a red-eye flight!.

"god" on the other hand (lower case g) must and does exist, been defined as the entity/power/force that created the universe and everything within. We appear to be here so that god must exist.

Religion is and was a tool to help civilisation come into existence, but we should be careful not to take human words written down as something "devine", after doing physics and general interest in science you see wonders in the universe than make religious texts a bit meek imho. (look up fractals, holographic universe, and so on)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

PS: I should say I do believe in faith and do have faith, but it is a faith of one [mine] and it changes every day as I learn new things.

I do find it ironic that Jesus basically said you don't need people wearing funny clothes in cold buildings to be one with God,God is with you wherever, but look what he got for his troubles!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interesting that Einstein..Pauli..Schrodinger ..3 giants of the modern age of physics all came to believe in the old man ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whether there is a god...whether he let's you in or not...it's all wasted on me. Once I'm dead I'm dead. Will I care?

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I am happy to go where ever the best fun is...

if above or down below..

as long as cock and fanny fests happen.. count me in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

there is a God and I've been touched by his noodly appendage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"there is a God and I've been touched by his noodly appendage"

Pervert

I have the sistine chapel picture with david and FSM as a backdrop!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes there is a God and used to go to church but found it hard to fit in being a single female. I still believe in him too and know I will go to heaven, but life is for living and I am making up for lost time too and learning a lot about myself since I joined this site.

Hopefully I will go back one day but I know he understands and does not judge me.

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By *eaboMan
over a year ago

marden

having been baptised,brought up and educated as a roman catholic i have to say no. Everyone has a personal god or diety they believe in, but as for the big man nope.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I read an interesting book on maths "Impossibility - The limits of science and the science of limits".

) a true God would be beyond our comprehension. If God is bound by logic (2+2=4) then it is not "God".

"god" on the other hand (lower case g) must and does exist, been defined as the entity/power/force that created the universe and everything within. We appear to be here so that god must exist.

I know an awful lot of very religious scientists and medics who believe there is a god.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im not religious I believe in Darwins theory of evolution

Everyone has their beliefs mine are whats all around us that I can see, smell, hear, etc. Who knows we might all end up like the dinasours and get wiped out by a giant meteorite one day lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's interesting to note that man - god's chosen favourite - has learned much about the universe that God, allegedly, created for us. We have learned that our Sun is 5bn years old and approximately half way through it's life. We have also learned that a dying star expands up to 100 times it's normal size, swallowing up it's inner planets (if there are any), before exploding in a cataclysmic expenditure of energy known as a supernova.

We have also learned that our nearest star would take two and a half years travelling non-stop at 186,000 miles per second to get there - and we have no idea if it even has an Earth-like planet that we could settle on.

So why then, if we are God's chosen favourite, did he ensure our absolute destruction at a predetermined point in time some 4.5bn years from now (that's approximately 1.25bn generations into the future, assuming a new generation is born every 25 years).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If there's a god, an afterlife, a spirit world whatever, it's nothing like what humans have created in the world's religions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are some answers to questions that we mere mortals are not supposed to ,but learn thru faith and hope that there is a reason why and you either accept it or you don't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If there is a god , which is anyones choice to believe , and religion does dictate who 'gets in' then i'm glad i wont be there . Personnaly i have no religious beliefs but believe in humanity and if there is some kind of afterlife i'd rather share it with other nice human beings than some who commit attrocities and war in the name of their 'God' . If theres nothing once your dead then i've not wasted precious time praying to an empty sky in vain , either way it'l work out just fine for me so each to their own .

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By *orestersCouple
over a year ago

The Forest

Gods begin when knowledge and rationality stop.

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By *aucy3 OP Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

all religions,are based on living a good life.

on the other hand,it has been used as an excuse,for more death and suffering,over the centuries.than any other single reason.

how can these 2 facts be reconciled.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Religion as the cause of most wars and suffering in history ....

Thats a fallacy I`m afraid to say ...

Its land grab and hence money ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"all religions,are based on living a good life.

on the other hand,it has been used as an excuse,for more death and suffering,over the centuries.than any other single reason.

how can these 2 facts be reconciled.

I am right there with you. Its all about contradictions.

Yes i/we are 'non-believers', but then like anyone its a choice. I dont have anything against believers, until somoene tries to bash me into believing.

And hey, if there is such a thing as heaven and hell and i get there and some all powerfull bloke says 'non believer' going down, i can shrug and just reply 'go figure' and accept its where all the bad girls are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This whole concept of heaven/hell makes me chuckle inwardly.

Religious preacher: Young man, if you don't believe in God you will burn in hell for all eternity!

Young man: How very fucking Christian of you. Thanks.

It's all total bollocks. Absodefolutely!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

dont matter to me what god peeps belive in, thats up to them,its not for me at all.

BUT, i have seen a ghost,and to be honest shit myself.

so who knows.

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By *orestersCouple
over a year ago

The Forest

There really is only one reason why god exists - someone else told you that he existed.

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By *oDownEasyMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire

I do not think there is a god, and no one thinking rationally would believe in one

BUT(and like mine, it's a *very* big but

) if he(or she or it) DID exist, then surely as creator of the universe, with all its scientific laws & rules, as a scientist he would appreciate a person's refusal to believe in the face of absolutley no evidence of his existence whatsoever.Rather than sheeplike adherence to a religion, appreciate the thinking about it! "Sure I could have proved my existence by appearing in a puff of smoke in Times Square(rather than whisper in the minds of delusional loonies)but I didnt so well done for using the brain that I intelligently designed for you, so come on in"

So just best to think about it.

Or as the late, great Douglas Adams put it..."I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing." "But," says man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn´t it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don´t. QED." "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn´t thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic."

But I still think god is a load of dingo's kidneys

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *aucy3 OP Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There really is only one reason why god exists - someone else told you that he existed."

Actually its well studied that the human species are the only things on this planet that instinctively 'give thanks' to what they perceive to be a higher power, long before organised religion. How many non believers have uttered 'help me' to nobody in particular when in times of despair? What drives anyone to look into the sky and cry out for help or support from something beyond what they can see and feel without really realising why they are doing it?

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By *aucy3 OP Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

"Religion as the cause of most wars and suffering in history ....

Thats a fallacy I`m afraid to say ...

Its land grab and hence money ..."

i think you misread dave.i said used as an excuse.

it may be land grab,but done under the guise.of a religious crusade.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Religion as the cause of most wars and suffering in history ....

Thats a fallacy I`m afraid to say ...

Its land grab and hence money ...

i think you misread dave.i said used as an excuse.

it may be land grab,but done under the guise.of a religious crusade."

I`m still not convinced Saucy .....its a popular _iew I admit ..

But I think nationalism is the greatest excuse...looking at the 2 great wars ..those in olden China ...the British and Mongol Empires...truly astonishing figures....

The cultural shift in modern China with Maos ..Great Leap Forward ..which wasn`t a war claimed some 20 million ...

Could be wrong I guess ..however those figues in the quoted wars dwarf anything before ....and looking at history there aren`t that many wars in religions name that I can think of ...I`m open minded tho ..

Thanks fer the Dave btw...

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By *aucy3 OP Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

"Religion as the cause of most wars and suffering in history ....

Thats a fallacy I`m afraid to say ...

Its land grab and hence money ...

i think you misread dave.i said used as an excuse.

it may be land grab,but done under the guise.of a religious crusade.

I`m still not convinced Saucy .....its a popular _iew I admit ..

But I think nationalism is the greatest excuse...looking at the 2 great wars ..those in olden China ...the British and Mongol Empires...truly astonishing figures....

The cultural shift in modern China with Maos ..Great Leap Forward ..which wasn`t a war claimed some 20 million ...

Thanks fer the Dave btw...

i have been known to be wrong dave

but even in the 20th century,the biggest mass murderers.were mao,stalin,and hitler.a large proportion of those murdered.were murdered,due to there religious beleifs.

i would still consider that,deaths due to religion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is a god if you believe in it.

Strange that even those who "dont" believe always pray to him if summat awful happens

truth is strange eh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can't believe that anything is created by accident. Even accidents have a cause.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Having been considered for training for life in the clergy in my teens

I am now just a believer in myself xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i personally do not believe there is a god or heaven

i respect other peoples _iews and opinions but noone will ever convinced me other wise

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

God doesnt exist, he only exist if u have an religion or r religius, I am a non beleiver and I dont beleive in god or anyfin like that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Religion as the cause of most wars and suffering in history ....

Thats a fallacy I`m afraid to say ...

Its land grab and hence money ...

i think you misread dave.i said used as an excuse.

it may be land grab,but done under the guise.of a religious crusade.

I`m still not convinced Saucy .....its a popular _iew I admit ..

But I think nationalism is the greatest excuse...looking at the 2 great wars ..those in olden China ...the British and Mongol Empires...truly astonishing figures....

The cultural shift in modern China with Maos ..Great Leap Forward ..which wasn`t a war claimed some 20 million ...

Thanks fer the Dave btw...

i have been known to be wrong dave

but even in the 20th century,the biggest mass murderers.were mao,stalin,and hitler.a large proportion of those murdered.were murdered,due to there religious beleifs.

i would still consider that,deaths due to religion."

haha Saucy ...its healthy to be wrong sometimes ...I often am

Ah! ...ok! ...I take your point...yeah thats possible ...not sure tho ...I`ll think on it ..one thing that comes to me of the top of my head is ethnicity ...as summat to chuck in fire so to speak ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There really is only one reason why god exists - someone else told you that he existed."

Mystery and myth have always played a part of mans quest to explain his experience of consciousness..once he evolved out of the limbic brain ...I`d say anyway ..

Why do we bury our dead ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There really is only one reason why god exists - someone else told you that he existed.

Mystery and myth have always played a part of mans quest to explain his experience of consciousness..once he evolved out of the limbic brain ...I`d say anyway ..

Why do we bury our dead .."

Cos I could never eat my mother but if I left her above ground she'd stink after a few days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There really is only one reason why god exists - someone else told you that he existed.

Mystery and myth have always played a part of mans quest to explain his experience of consciousness..once he evolved out of the limbic brain ...I`d say anyway ..

Why do we bury our dead .."

I wanna be cremated .... hot!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There really is only one reason why god exists - someone else told you that he existed.

Mystery and myth have always played a part of mans quest to explain his experience of consciousness..once he evolved out of the limbic brain ...I`d say anyway ..

Why do we bury our dead ..

Cos I could never eat my mother but if I left her above ground she'd stink after a few days.

Join one of those indian sects that groom the dead and polish the bones ....live a little ..haha ...

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