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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

St Ives has just passed a referendum by 80 odd % in favour of banning second home ownership.

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25% of local housing is now owned by second home owners and the validity of the referendum is being challenged by a house builder as the new policy will require them to only be able to sell to residents.

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Step in the right direction or an workable nightmare?

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By *r and mrs sanddancerCouple
over a year ago

BOLDON COLLIERY

I do wonder how they plan to enforce this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good move but as poster above said how will they enforce it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Second home ownership is having a profound effect on the communities in the south west (the village I live in has about 35% second home owners) it has driven prices up and led to inappropriate house construction (most small villages now have modern estates tacked onto them).

However it was local people that sold up initially (land and property) because their children couldn't find work. Traditional roles in farming have been reduced through less profitability and the foot and mouth crisis of the late 90s and early 00s (we lost 4 of our biggest farms at this time).

The kids born in Devon don't want to stay in Devon; they want a future with prospects (my local town; the main employer lost all 5 of its factories due to a hike in fuel prices and distribution cost's in the same period.)

The demographic of this area is changing to a more elderly group. The problem with second home ownership is reduced council tax payment thus a reduced income for the county; services feel the impact and with an aging population this is compounded. Is the solution banning second homes? I doubt it. Years of underinvestment and brain drain have brought us here. At least the construction and care industries are flourishing and because of this we may retain some of the youth.

Full council tax (not discounts for multiple homes) may arrest the rot and give us a county that can invest, who knows?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So not only do developers have to pay a CIL charge, more stamp duty they can now only sell to locals then pay capital gains tax. Where as St Ives is a relatively expensive area the locals may not be able to afford the property. Twenty five percent may be owned by local people but does that mean that local people aren't buying them as investment.

Also what are the current sales figures. Are outsiders as a percentage buying more homes now than before as this would not necessary reflect on this current 25% of existing ownership.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Second home ownership is having a profound effect on the communities in the south west (the village I live in has about 35% second home owners) it has driven prices up and led to inappropriate house construction (most small villages now have modern estates tacked onto them).

However it was local people that sold up initially (land and property) because their children couldn't find work. Traditional roles in farming have been reduced through less profitability and the foot and mouth crisis of the late 90s and early 00s (we lost 4 of our biggest farms at this time).

The kids born in Devon don't want to stay in Devon; they want a future with prospects (my local town; the main employer lost all 5 of its factories due to a hike in fuel prices and distribution cost's in the same period.)

The demographic of this area is changing to a more elderly group. The problem with second home ownership is reduced council tax payment thus a reduced income for the county; services feel the impact and with an aging population this is compounded. Is the solution banning second homes? I doubt it. Years of underinvestment and brain drain have brought us here. At least the construction and care industries are flourishing and because of this we may retain some of the youth.

Full council tax (not discounts for multiple homes) may arrest the rot and give us a county that can invest, who knows? "

Would pushing prices down help though.

It can lead to negative equity.

People with existing homes maybe utilising the capital gains as a pension.

It messes up equity release schemes for old people.

People with existing homes may have borrowed more to improve their home or to buy a second home.

Fact. House price increase has had more of a positive affect on the country than decreases.

Moments of stability can only be affected by current market conditions and can't be forced. You end up affecting the wrong targets.

If developers don't see any profit they won't buy therefore a place to rent will not come to the market. An influx of properties can lead to there being a surplus and until banks relax their lending criteria a gain a lack of buyers leading to a quandary in the market place which has been the back bone of this country.

This country lives off the banks, finance and our housing industry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Second home ownership is having a profound effect on the communities in the south west (the village I live in has about 35% second home owners) it has driven prices up and led to inappropriate house construction (most small villages now have modern estates tacked onto them).

However it was local people that sold up initially (land and property) because their children couldn't find work. Traditional roles in farming have been reduced through less profitability and the foot and mouth crisis of the late 90s and early 00s (we lost 4 of our biggest farms at this time).

The kids born in Devon don't want to stay in Devon; they want a future with prospects (my local town; the main employer lost all 5 of its factories due to a hike in fuel prices and distribution cost's in the same period.)

The demographic of this area is changing to a more elderly group. The problem with second home ownership is reduced council tax payment thus a reduced income for the county; services feel the impact and with an aging population this is compounded. Is the solution banning second homes? I doubt it. Years of underinvestment and brain drain have brought us here. At least the construction and care industries are flourishing and because of this we may retain some of the youth.

Full council tax (not discounts for multiple homes) may arrest the rot and give us a county that can invest, who knows?

Would pushing prices down help though.

It can lead to negative equity.

People with existing homes maybe utilising the capital gains as a pension.

It messes up equity release schemes for old people.

People with existing homes may have borrowed more to improve their home or to buy a second home.

Fact. House price increase has had more of a positive affect on the country than decreases.

Moments of stability can only be affected by current market conditions and can't be forced. You end up affecting the wrong targets.

If developers don't see any profit they won't buy therefore a place to rent will not come to the market. An influx of properties can lead to there being a surplus and until banks relax their lending criteria a gain a lack of buyers leading to a quandary in the market place which has been the back bone of this country.

This country lives off the banks, finance and our housing industry. "

I don't think we need to do anything with prices; the market will take what the market will take. I just don't think a second home should receive a tax break and reduce a counties income from council tax. It's having a very real effect on services in areas; one could argue; that are more in need of those services (one bus a week from my village to Exeter; nearest police station after 4pm is 35 miles away (as are ambulances; fire series etc). Tax second homes fairly and you can sell them to who you like.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Id love to own a house where i live,, but its pretty much only going to happen sadly when my grandparents pass .. and at that point i doubt id stay down here as the rest of my family moved away as they couldnt afford to buy down here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Second home ownership is having a profound effect on the communities in the south west (the village I live in has about 35% second home owners) it has driven prices up and led to inappropriate house construction (most small villages now have modern estates tacked onto them).

However it was local people that sold up initially (land and property) because their children couldn't find work. Traditional roles in farming have been reduced through less profitability and the foot and mouth crisis of the late 90s and early 00s (we lost 4 of our biggest farms at this time).

The kids born in Devon don't want to stay in Devon; they want a future with prospects (my local town; the main employer lost all 5 of its factories due to a hike in fuel prices and distribution cost's in the same period.)

The demographic of this area is changing to a more elderly group. The problem with second home ownership is reduced council tax payment thus a reduced income for the county; services feel the impact and with an aging population this is compounded. Is the solution banning second homes? I doubt it. Years of underinvestment and brain drain have brought us here. At least the construction and care industries are flourishing and because of this we may retain some of the youth.

Full council tax (not discounts for multiple homes) may arrest the rot and give us a county that can invest, who knows?

Would pushing prices down help though.

It can lead to negative equity.

People with existing homes maybe utilising the capital gains as a pension.

It messes up equity release schemes for old people.

People with existing homes may have borrowed more to improve their home or to buy a second home.

Fact. House price increase has had more of a positive affect on the country than decreases.

Moments of stability can only be affected by current market conditions and can't be forced. You end up affecting the wrong targets.

If developers don't see any profit they won't buy therefore a place to rent will not come to the market. An influx of properties can lead to there being a surplus and until banks relax their lending criteria a gain a lack of buyers leading to a quandary in the market place which has been the back bone of this country.

This country lives off the banks, finance and our housing industry.

I don't think we need to do anything with prices; the market will take what the market will take. I just don't think a second home should receive a tax break and reduce a counties income from council tax. It's having a very real effect on services in areas; one could argue; that are more in need of those services (one bus a week from my village to Exeter; nearest police station after 4pm is 35 miles away (as are ambulances; fire series etc). Tax second homes fairly and you can sell them to who you like."

That's the local councils decision I believe. I pay full council tax on my rental properties while empty AND unfurnished where I used to pay nothing if left unfurnished

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

From what I can gather, the ruling applies to new build houses (not existing) so new houses can only be sold to somebody who can prove they reside in St Ives.

It's always going to be complicated but I guess when you've got over 25%of local houses being second homes in a town with little space it's always going to be a contentious issue

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"I do wonder how they plan to enforce this "
It could be cross referenced to the HMRC databases and that of mortgage lenders .

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"I do wonder how they plan to enforce this "

Very simply by adding a restrictive covenant to the deed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do wonder how they plan to enforce this

Very simply by adding a restrictive covenant to the deed."

I imagine they already had S106 agreements with local connections needed but I don't think this applied to schemes under a certain number of dwellings.

I think it's a good idea, in many ways as it'll possibly stop the insane price rises in that area. Be interesting to see though of that result is allowed to stand legally or will be challenged. I imagine it will be challenged.

Sarah

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"St Ives has just passed a referendum by 80 odd % in favour of banning second home ownership.

.

25% of local housing is now owned by second home owners and the validity of the referendum is being challenged by a house builder as the new policy will require them to only be able to sell to residents.

.

Step in the right direction or an workable nightmare?"

Unfortunately it's not just in that area

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Id love to own a house where i live,, but its pretty much only going to happen sadly when my grandparents pass .. and at that point i doubt id stay down here as the rest of my family moved away as they couldnt afford to buy down here "

Where you live sweetie is beyond the reach of most locals I agree; the old fishing villages have become a hot spot for second home owners. Jobs are seasonal and dependent on this.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but second home ownership in the south west has helped rip the guts out of the communities down here; together with underinvestment by successive governments. Live down here not for 3 months when the sun shines but for 24 or 36 months straight. Talk to people that scrape a living and pray for a good summer season.

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)


"I do wonder how they plan to enforce this It could be cross referenced to the HMRC databases and that of mortgage lenders . "

Is this only for the first purchase of the new house or for a prolonged period or the life of the house... If it's for the first purchase only solves nothing really, if it's for a longer period I can see problems a plenty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Talking to a developer they said that their response is to simply build elsewhere. They make a lot of profit from "London people" paying over the odds for a new house. He did say that he thinks outsiders will simply buy up older existing houses and do them up instead of new homes. This should make the problem even worse I would guess.

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By *horehouseCouple
over a year ago

dissatisfied


"St Ives has just passed a referendum by 80 odd % in favour of banning second home ownership.

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25% of local housing is now owned by second home owners and the validity of the referendum is being challenged by a house builder as the new policy will require them to only be able to sell to residents.

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Step in the right direction or an workable nightmare?

Unfortunately it's not just in that area"
why stop 2nd home ownership just in that area why not just tell everyone in the UK no second property anywhere in the world oh and landlords cant have more than the house the live in ..WHY because its a free country isn't it !!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"St Ives has just passed a referendum by 80 odd % in favour of banning second home ownership.

.

25% of local housing is now owned by second home owners and the validity of the referendum is being challenged by a house builder as the new policy will require them to only be able to sell to residents.

.

Step in the right direction or an workable nightmare?

Unfortunately it's not just in that areawhy stop 2nd home ownership just in that area why not just tell everyone in the UK no second property anywhere in the world oh and landlords cant have more than the house the live in ..WHY because its a free country isn't it !!!!!!!"

Bit extreme isn't it? The issue is local people being priced out of the housing market in a place they have lived for generations... not the number of homes a person owns. It is a free country; don't people have the freedom to live where there families have lived for generations, or should they be driven out by the wealthy from other parts of the country, that want a 3 month slice of "rural living"? Very forward thinking; very sustainable....

Let's move all the poor to large urban areas and sinkhole estates so the wealthy can have a Seaview....

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Let's move all the poor to large urban areas and sinkhole estates so the wealthy can have a Seaview...."

Exactly.

If the rich - who have made their money from the work of others - aren't free to have second, third or even fourth homes wherever they please that they use for only a month or two of the year I don;t know what the country is coming to.

It's only poor people who whinge about such things, you know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let's move all the poor to large urban areas and sinkhole estates so the wealthy can have a Seaview....

Exactly.

If the rich - who have made their money from the work of others - aren't free to have second, third or even fourth homes wherever they please that they use for only a month or two of the year I don;t know what the country is coming to.

It's only poor people who whinge about such things, you know. "

I know but I am white knighting.... my estate requires game-keepers, farmers (and their workers), dairy maids, huntsmen gravel pit workers, maids, butlers and gardeners, I am running out of options....

Please note owning an estate in North Devon (commonly know as "where?") Is rather cheap; I won mine in a game of poker.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Let's move all the poor to large urban areas and sinkhole estates so the wealthy can have a Seaview....

Exactly.

If the rich - who have made their money from the work of others - aren't free to have second, third or even fourth homes wherever they please that they use for only a month or two of the year I don;t know what the country is coming to.

It's only poor people who whinge about such things, you know.

I know but I am white knighting.... my estate requires game-keepers, farmers (and their workers), dairy maids, huntsmen gravel pit workers, maids, butlers and gardeners, I am running out of options....

Please note owning an estate in North Devon (commonly know as "where?") Is rather cheap; I won mine in a game of poker."

How delightful - I lost half of mine betting of which of two flies would buzz off first...

No, the problem with this country is all the poor people. Get rid of them, just turn it in to a play park for rich people, foreign billionaires and the like = problem solved.

Actually, maybe keep a few poor people in a game reserve so we can go shooting?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"St Ives has just passed a referendum by 80 odd % in favour of banning second home ownership.

.

25% of local housing is now owned by second home owners and the validity of the referendum is being challenged by a house builder as the new policy will require them to only be able to sell to residents.

.

Step in the right direction or an workable nightmare?

Unfortunately it's not just in that areawhy stop 2nd home ownership just in that area why not just tell everyone in the UK no second property anywhere in the world oh and landlords cant have more than the house the live in ..WHY because its a free country isn't it !!!!!!!"

Yeah. It allowed you to leave and not return. You must really like it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let's move all the poor to large urban areas and sinkhole estates so the wealthy can have a Seaview....

Exactly.

If the rich - who have made their money from the work of others - aren't free to have second, third or even fourth homes wherever they please that they use for only a month or two of the year I don;t know what the country is coming to.

It's only poor people who whinge about such things, you know. "

It's investors from outside the UK that are partly to blame for London's inflated house prices. They buy a property as an investment knowing it'll go up! Their prices are still increasing - 7.7 % monthly rental income rise in April I think.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Let's move all the poor to large urban areas and sinkhole estates so the wealthy can have a Seaview....

Exactly.

If the rich - who have made their money from the work of others - aren't free to have second, third or even fourth homes wherever they please that they use for only a month or two of the year I don;t know what the country is coming to.

It's only poor people who whinge about such things, you know.

It's investors from outside the UK that are partly to blame for London's inflated house prices. They buy a property as an investment knowing it'll go up! Their prices are still increasing - 7.7 % monthly rental income rise in April I think. "

Hey - that's capitalism

What are you complaining about - get back to work!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let's move all the poor to large urban areas and sinkhole estates so the wealthy can have a Seaview....

Exactly.

If the rich - who have made their money from the work of others - aren't free to have second, third or even fourth homes wherever they please that they use for only a month or two of the year I don;t know what the country is coming to.

It's only poor people who whinge about such things, you know.

I know but I am white knighting.... my estate requires game-keepers, farmers (and their workers), dairy maids, huntsmen gravel pit workers, maids, butlers and gardeners, I am running out of options....

Please note owning an estate in North Devon (commonly know as "where?") Is rather cheap; I won mine in a game of poker.

How delightful - I lost half of mine betting of which of two flies would buzz off first...

No, the problem with this country is all the poor people. Get rid of them, just turn it in to a play park for rich people, foreign billionaires and the like = problem solved.

Actually, maybe keep a few poor people in a game reserve so we can go shooting?"

There are more of us paupers you know ? We could bring back the workhouse. When you look back - it's not really that long ago in our social history they disappeared. Quite scary really.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Let's move all the poor to large urban areas and sinkhole estates so the wealthy can have a Seaview....

Exactly.

If the rich - who have made their money from the work of others - aren't free to have second, third or even fourth homes wherever they please that they use for only a month or two of the year I don;t know what the country is coming to.

It's only poor people who whinge about such things, you know.

I know but I am white knighting.... my estate requires game-keepers, farmers (and their workers), dairy maids, huntsmen gravel pit workers, maids, butlers and gardeners, I am running out of options....

Please note owning an estate in North Devon (commonly know as "where?") Is rather cheap; I won mine in a game of poker.

How delightful - I lost half of mine betting of which of two flies would buzz off first...

No, the problem with this country is all the poor people. Get rid of them, just turn it in to a play park for rich people, foreign billionaires and the like = problem solved.

Actually, maybe keep a few poor people in a game reserve so we can go shooting?

There are more of us paupers you know ? We could bring back the workhouse. When you look back - it's not really that long ago in our social history they disappeared. Quite scary really. "

Note to self - get around to dismantling the Welfare State one of these days

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let's move all the poor to large urban areas and sinkhole estates so the wealthy can have a Seaview....

Exactly.

If the rich - who have made their money from the work of others - aren't free to have second, third or even fourth homes wherever they please that they use for only a month or two of the year I don;t know what the country is coming to.

It's only poor people who whinge about such things, you know.

It's investors from outside the UK that are partly to blame for London's inflated house prices. They buy a property as an investment knowing it'll go up! Their prices are still increasing - 7.7 % monthly rental income rise in April I think.

Hey - that's capitalism

What are you complaining about - get back to work! "

I'm on my lunch break. Bread and water then back out in the fields ....,

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Let's move all the poor to large urban areas and sinkhole estates so the wealthy can have a Seaview....

Exactly.

If the rich - who have made their money from the work of others - aren't free to have second, third or even fourth homes wherever they please that they use for only a month or two of the year I don;t know what the country is coming to.

It's only poor people who whinge about such things, you know.

It's investors from outside the UK that are partly to blame for London's inflated house prices. They buy a property as an investment knowing it'll go up! Their prices are still increasing - 7.7 % monthly rental income rise in April I think.

Hey - that's capitalism

What are you complaining about - get back to work!

I'm on my lunch break. Bread and water then back out in the fields ....,"

I've got my eye on you!

No slacking, or your gruel allowance will be docked again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let's move all the poor to large urban areas and sinkhole estates so the wealthy can have a Seaview....

Exactly.

If the rich - who have made their money from the work of others - aren't free to have second, third or even fourth homes wherever they please that they use for only a month or two of the year I don;t know what the country is coming to.

It's only poor people who whinge about such things, you know.

I know but I am white knighting.... my estate requires game-keepers, farmers (and their workers), dairy maids, huntsmen gravel pit workers, maids, butlers and gardeners, I am running out of options....

Please note owning an estate in North Devon (commonly know as "where?") Is rather cheap; I won mine in a game of poker.

How delightful - I lost half of mine betting of which of two flies would buzz off first...

No, the problem with this country is all the poor people. Get rid of them, just turn it in to a play park for rich people, foreign billionaires and the like = problem solved.

Actually, maybe keep a few poor people in a game reserve so we can go shooting?"

If we get rid of all the poor people we would just create a new poverty class (say only owning sub 100 acres 4 homes or less etc. There will always be poor; it's relative)

The problem with holiday home owners is they don't LIVE in the place their second home is; they don't have to suffer the second rate services we have because they go back to their first home and use the better invested services there.....

People have a right to wealth; we earn it. We don't have a right to dictate the development of a place we don't live (hence LOCAL council elections)... pump the prices up; bubbles burst, turn the south west into a playground. The roads are smashed to fuck; when/if you get ill we can always send the air ambulance out (charity funded....)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Right to Buy Scheme was one of the worst pieces of legislation ever invented. As soon as its purchased a property can be private rented out straight away - I've never understood that.

So the new owner buys somewhere else and rents out the Social Housing they got for peanuts!

Sarah

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Let's move all the poor to large urban areas and sinkhole estates so the wealthy can have a Seaview....

Exactly.

If the rich - who have made their money from the work of others - aren't free to have second, third or even fourth homes wherever they please that they use for only a month or two of the year I don;t know what the country is coming to.

It's only poor people who whinge about such things, you know.

I know but I am white knighting.... my estate requires game-keepers, farmers (and their workers), dairy maids, huntsmen gravel pit workers, maids, butlers and gardeners, I am running out of options....

Please note owning an estate in North Devon (commonly know as "where?") Is rather cheap; I won mine in a game of poker.

How delightful - I lost half of mine betting of which of two flies would buzz off first...

No, the problem with this country is all the poor people. Get rid of them, just turn it in to a play park for rich people, foreign billionaires and the like = problem solved.

Actually, maybe keep a few poor people in a game reserve so we can go shooting?

If we get rid of all the poor people we would just create a new poverty class (say only owning sub 100 acres 4 homes or less etc. There will always be poor; it's relative)

The problem with holiday home owners is they don't LIVE in the place their second home is; they don't have to suffer the second rate services we have because they go back to their first home and use the better invested services there.....

People have a right to wealth; we earn it. We don't have a right to dictate the development of a place we don't live (hence LOCAL council elections)... pump the prices up; bubbles burst, turn the south west into a playground. The roads are smashed to fuck; when/if you get ill we can always send the air ambulance out (charity funded....)"

You're getting the hang of this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I worked as a highways engineer down here a few years back. Got a complaint letter (through an MP) from a second home resident asking me what I was going to do about all the tractors on narrow country lanes..

..my first response was rejected by the MP....

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"I worked as a highways engineer down here a few years back. Got a complaint letter (through an MP) from a second home resident asking me what I was going to do about all the tractors on narrow country lanes..

..my first response was rejected by the MP...."

Fucking ignorant navvy.

*notes Pauly's name on The List*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I worked as a highways engineer down here a few years back. Got a complaint letter (through an MP) from a second home resident asking me what I was going to do about all the tractors on narrow country lanes..

..my first response was rejected by the MP....

Fucking ignorant navvy.

*notes Pauly's name on The List*"

I take I am now blocked. To be fair I was a jobbing engineer waiting for my copper mine in DRC to pay out...

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"I worked as a highways engineer down here a few years back. Got a complaint letter (through an MP) from a second home resident asking me what I was going to do about all the tractors on narrow country lanes..

..my first response was rejected by the MP....

Fucking ignorant navvy.

*notes Pauly's name on The List*

I take I am now blocked. To be fair I was a jobbing engineer waiting for my copper mine in DRC to pay out..."

Yeah, yeah, yeah... tell it to the Commandant when you arrive at the camp.

You're lucky in one respect: I never block anyone. NE-VER. It's just childish.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I worked as a highways engineer down here a few years back. Got a complaint letter (through an MP) from a second home resident asking me what I was going to do about all the tractors on narrow country lanes..

..my first response was rejected by the MP....

Fucking ignorant navvy.

*notes Pauly's name on The List*

I take I am now blocked. To be fair I was a jobbing engineer waiting for my copper mine in DRC to pay out...

Yeah, yeah, yeah... tell it to the Commandant when you arrive at the camp.

You're lucky in one respect: I never block anyone. NE-VER. It's just childish.

"

Neither do I but people block me.... I can't think why; single guys block me a lot, which is kinda mad.... as they can't message me anyway (I know you have tried Joe; and that 25 single female profile you message me from isn't fooling anyone (pro-tip remove moustache before claiming you are a 25 year old blonde who likes skinny sarcastic balding old men))

A number of ladies have blocked me too mind; it hurts.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"I worked as a highways engineer down here a few years back. Got a complaint letter (through an MP) from a second home resident asking me what I was going to do about all the tractors on narrow country lanes..

..my first response was rejected by the MP....

Fucking ignorant navvy.

*notes Pauly's name on The List*

I take I am now blocked. To be fair I was a jobbing engineer waiting for my copper mine in DRC to pay out...

Yeah, yeah, yeah... tell it to the Commandant when you arrive at the camp.

You're lucky in one respect: I never block anyone. NE-VER. It's just childish.

Neither do I but people block me.... I can't think why; single guys block me a lot, which is kinda mad.... as they can't message me anyway (I know you have tried Joe; and that 25 single female profile you message me from isn't fooling anyone (pro-tip remove moustache before claiming you are a 25 year old blonde who likes skinny sarcastic balding old men))

A number of ladies have blocked me too mind; it hurts."

Really?

It's just a fragile ego thing.

Someone doesn't like you for whatever reason, gets upset about it and the only way they feel able to retain some control over the situation is by blocking.

If it makes you happy. Whatever.

I think of it as a prick filter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I worked as a highways engineer down here a few years back. Got a complaint letter (through an MP) from a second home resident asking me what I was going to do about all the tractors on narrow country lanes..

..my first response was rejected by the MP....

Fucking ignorant navvy.

*notes Pauly's name on The List*

I take I am now blocked. To be fair I was a jobbing engineer waiting for my copper mine in DRC to pay out...

Yeah, yeah, yeah... tell it to the Commandant when you arrive at the camp.

You're lucky in one respect: I never block anyone. NE-VER. It's just childish.

Neither do I but people block me.... I can't think why; single guys block me a lot, which is kinda mad.... as they can't message me anyway (I know you have tried Joe; and that 25 single female profile you message me from isn't fooling anyone (pro-tip remove moustache before claiming you are a 25 year old blonde who likes skinny sarcastic balding old men))

A number of ladies have blocked me too mind; it hurts.

Really?

It's just a fragile ego thing.

Someone doesn't like you for whatever reason, gets upset about it and the only way they feel able to retain some control over the situation is by blocking.

If it makes you happy. Whatever.

I think of it as a prick filter "

But Joe i can't attend socials because of it. My looks won't benefit from a black eye.... still people that block me; interest me so it has the opposite effect as someone once said "Pauly; you always want what you can't have, it will be your downfall" and he wondered why his chute didn't open... (for about 280 seconds)

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"I worked as a highways engineer down here a few years back. Got a complaint letter (through an MP) from a second home resident asking me what I was going to do about all the tractors on narrow country lanes..

..my first response was rejected by the MP....

Fucking ignorant navvy.

*notes Pauly's name on The List*

I take I am now blocked. To be fair I was a jobbing engineer waiting for my copper mine in DRC to pay out...

Yeah, yeah, yeah... tell it to the Commandant when you arrive at the camp.

You're lucky in one respect: I never block anyone. NE-VER. It's just childish.

Neither do I but people block me.... I can't think why; single guys block me a lot, which is kinda mad.... as they can't message me anyway (I know you have tried Joe; and that 25 single female profile you message me from isn't fooling anyone (pro-tip remove moustache before claiming you are a 25 year old blonde who likes skinny sarcastic balding old men))

A number of ladies have blocked me too mind; it hurts.

Really?

It's just a fragile ego thing.

Someone doesn't like you for whatever reason, gets upset about it and the only way they feel able to retain some control over the situation is by blocking.

If it makes you happy. Whatever.

I think of it as a prick filter

But Joe i can't attend socials because of it. My looks won't benefit from a black eye.... still people that block me; interest me so it has the opposite effect as someone once said "Pauly; you always want what you can't have, it will be your downfall" and he wondered why his chute didn't open... (for about 280 seconds)"

You must piss off a lot of people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I worked as a highways engineer down here a few years back. Got a complaint letter (through an MP) from a second home resident asking me what I was going to do about all the tractors on narrow country lanes..

..my first response was rejected by the MP....

Fucking ignorant navvy.

*notes Pauly's name on The List*

I take I am now blocked. To be fair I was a jobbing engineer waiting for my copper mine in DRC to pay out...

Yeah, yeah, yeah... tell it to the Commandant when you arrive at the camp.

You're lucky in one respect: I never block anyone. NE-VER. It's just childish.

Neither do I but people block me.... I can't think why; single guys block me a lot, which is kinda mad.... as they can't message me anyway (I know you have tried Joe; and that 25 single female profile you message me from isn't fooling anyone (pro-tip remove moustache before claiming you are a 25 year old blonde who likes skinny sarcastic balding old men))

A number of ladies have blocked me too mind; it hurts.

Really?

It's just a fragile ego thing.

Someone doesn't like you for whatever reason, gets upset about it and the only way they feel able to retain some control over the situation is by blocking.

If it makes you happy. Whatever.

I think of it as a prick filter

But Joe i can't attend socials because of it. My looks won't benefit from a black eye.... still people that block me; interest me so it has the opposite effect as someone once said "Pauly; you always want what you can't have, it will be your downfall" and he wondered why his chute didn't open... (for about 280 seconds)

You must piss off a lot of people "

Yeap

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

Further up the thread it was mentioned the council tax take was reduced by second home ownership, blame your local councillors if that's the case it's down to your council what discount if any they apply.. in Leeds you're charged 100% council tax on second homes ...no discount ,

and our roads and services are crap as well.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"I worked as a highways engineer down here a few years back. Got a complaint letter (through an MP) from a second home resident asking me what I was going to do about all the tractors on narrow country lanes..

..my first response was rejected by the MP....

Fucking ignorant navvy.

*notes Pauly's name on The List*

I take I am now blocked. To be fair I was a jobbing engineer waiting for my copper mine in DRC to pay out...

Yeah, yeah, yeah... tell it to the Commandant when you arrive at the camp.

You're lucky in one respect: I never block anyone. NE-VER. It's just childish.

Neither do I but people block me.... I can't think why; single guys block me a lot, which is kinda mad.... as they can't message me anyway (I know you have tried Joe; and that 25 single female profile you message me from isn't fooling anyone (pro-tip remove moustache before claiming you are a 25 year old blonde who likes skinny sarcastic balding old men))

A number of ladies have blocked me too mind; it hurts.

Really?

It's just a fragile ego thing.

Someone doesn't like you for whatever reason, gets upset about it and the only way they feel able to retain some control over the situation is by blocking.

If it makes you happy. Whatever.

I think of it as a prick filter

But Joe i can't attend socials because of it. My looks won't benefit from a black eye.... still people that block me; interest me so it has the opposite effect as someone once said "Pauly; you always want what you can't have, it will be your downfall" and he wondered why his chute didn't open... (for about 280 seconds)

You must piss off a lot of people

Yeap "

Then you're doing something right.

*pins the Star of Bastardry, First Class, to Pauly's chest*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

You must piss off a lot of people

Yeap

Then you're doing something right.

*pins the Star of Bastardry, First Class, to Pauly's chest* "

Is that the JC? (Joe Cross)

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"

You must piss off a lot of people

Yeap

Then you're doing something right.

*pins the Star of Bastardry, First Class, to Pauly's chest*

Is that the JC? (Joe Cross)"

No, that's awarded for conspicuous achievement in the bedroom.

The Star of Bastardry is as old as the feudal system.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

You must piss off a lot of people

Yeap

Then you're doing something right.

*pins the Star of Bastardry, First Class, to Pauly's chest*

Is that the JC? (Joe Cross)

No, that's awarded for conspicuous achievement in the bedroom.

The Star of Bastardry is as old as the feudal system. "

I don't have a meet this weekend Joe... I am at a loss... I may need to go on a charm (less) offensive... don't think less of me

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"

You must piss off a lot of people

Yeap

Then you're doing something right.

*pins the Star of Bastardry, First Class, to Pauly's chest*

Is that the JC? (Joe Cross)

No, that's awarded for conspicuous achievement in the bedroom.

The Star of Bastardry is as old as the feudal system.

I don't have a meet this weekend Joe... I am at a loss... I may need to go on a charm (less) offensive... don't think less of me"

*sniffs and dabs at eye with hankie*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7zmHMlZJCM

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

You must piss off a lot of people

Yeap

Then you're doing something right.

*pins the Star of Bastardry, First Class, to Pauly's chest*

Is that the JC? (Joe Cross)

No, that's awarded for conspicuous achievement in the bedroom.

The Star of Bastardry is as old as the feudal system.

I don't have a meet this weekend Joe... I am at a loss... I may need to go on a charm (less) offensive... don't think less of me

*sniffs and dabs at eye with hankie*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7zmHMlZJCM"

https://youtu.be/kvs4bOMv5Xw

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"

You must piss off a lot of people

Yeap

Then you're doing something right.

*pins the Star of Bastardry, First Class, to Pauly's chest*

Is that the JC? (Joe Cross)

No, that's awarded for conspicuous achievement in the bedroom.

The Star of Bastardry is as old as the feudal system.

I don't have a meet this weekend Joe... I am at a loss... I may need to go on a charm (less) offensive... don't think less of me

*sniffs and dabs at eye with hankie*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7zmHMlZJCM

https://youtu.be/kvs4bOMv5Xw"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1irMMs-cBGA

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't see people in Knightsbridge, Kensington and Chelsea having this enforced on them. These areas have increased the most in percentage since they started (around 2002) to after the last slump

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Let's see what happens at judicial review ...

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