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"i will boycott tescos also, well was already doing this. i boycott anywhere that takes welfare to work anyway coz i know they don't like paying their staff." I don't know much about it but whats wrong with welfare to work? | |||
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"i will boycott tescos also, well was already doing this. i boycott anywhere that takes welfare to work anyway coz i know they don't like paying their staff. I don't know much about it but whats wrong with welfare to work?" people who don't like paying wages use it. you can pay trainees but with welfare to work you don't need to coz it's classed as job experience and not an actual job. | |||
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"i will boycott tescos also, well was already doing this. i boycott anywhere that takes welfare to work anyway coz i know they don't like paying their staff. I don't know much about it but whats wrong with welfare to work? people who don't like paying wages use it. you can pay trainees but with welfare to work you don't need to coz it's classed as job experience and not an actual job." Oh ok thats wrong but isn't it better than sitting on your arse all day? It could open doors | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them down" the minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government ... | |||
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"i will boycott tescos also, well was already doing this. i boycott anywhere that takes welfare to work anyway coz i know they don't like paying their staff. I don't know much about it but whats wrong with welfare to work? people who don't like paying wages use it. you can pay trainees but with welfare to work you don't need to coz it's classed as job experience and not an actual job. Oh ok thats wrong but isn't it better than sitting on your arse all day? It could open doors" well the reason i boycott is because i don't think it's a good idea to participate in the devaluation of workers. | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them downthe minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government ..." So it was Thatcher who brought in the minimum wage was it? 
And if the unions still had the power they used to have nobody would have a bleedin job. Oh except for the hypocrites and leeches at the top of the unions | |||
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"They did have a union agreement on wages, and the staff effected are receiving one lump payments to cover the equivalent difference in wages for the next 18 months. I won't be signing the petition as the union for tesco agreed to it, if they didn't like it then they should have done something about it at the discussion stage. Plus in the age of osterity everyone needs to make cuts, why should long serving people be exempt from that ? Would you rather keep the new staff wages lower to cover the longer serving members of staff ? " In a way I would. 20 years ago I was earning more than the minimum wage doing a pretty shit job anybody could do after a few weeks training but it gave those on less something to aspire to. That same job now is being done by people on minimum wage | |||
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"Plus in the age of osterity everyone needs to make cuts, why should long serving people be exempt from that ? Would you rather keep the new staff wages lower to cover the longer serving members of staff ? " MPs wages went up though. I'd like wages to follow that example. | |||
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"Plus in the age of osterity everyone needs to make cuts, why should long serving people be exempt from that ? Would you rather keep the new staff wages lower to cover the longer serving members of staff ? MPs wages went up though. I'd like wages to follow that example." Put yourself up for election then | |||
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"Plus in the age of osterity everyone needs to make cuts, why should long serving people be exempt from that ? Would you rather keep the new staff wages lower to cover the longer serving members of staff ? MPs wages went up though. I'd like wages to follow that example. Put yourself up for election then "That makes no sense. The people running the country claim there are austerity cuts and their actions contradict that. Why would i want to become a hypocrite or part of the hypocrite system? | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them downthe minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government ..." Blimey , she's been gone a few years and she's still taking the blame. I bet tescos employees are furious with her. | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them downthe minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government ... So it was Thatcher who brought in the minimum wage was it?
And if the unions still had the power they used to have nobody would have a bleedin job. Oh except for the hypocrites and leeches at the top of the unions"wow your stupidity exceeds itself this time ...the EU were instrumental in minimum wage and the Tories smashed the unions ..leading to high unemployment only lowered by fiddling the figures ..well it clearly hasn't worked without the powerful unions has it | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them downthe minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government ... So it was Thatcher who brought in the minimum wage was it?
And if the unions still had the power they used to have nobody would have a bleedin job. Oh except for the hypocrites and leeches at the top of the unionswow your stupidity exceeds itself this time ...the EU were instrumental in minimum wage and the Tories smashed the unions ..leading to high unemployment only lowered by fiddling the figures ..well it clearly hasn't worked without the powerful unions has it "Why what's the minimum wage in the Eu? And the unions needed smashing at the time | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them downthe minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government ... So it was Thatcher who brought in the minimum wage was it?
And if the unions still had the power they used to have nobody would have a bleedin job. Oh except for the hypocrites and leeches at the top of the unionswow your stupidity exceeds itself this time ...the EU were instrumental in minimum wage and the Tories smashed the unions ..leading to high unemployment only lowered by fiddling the figures ..well it clearly hasn't worked without the powerful unions has it
Why what's the minimum wage in the Eu? And the unions needed smashing at the time"minimum wage in EU same as uk its the lowest amount an employer can pay .i take it you were a tory Politian in the early eighties.or a senior union official as I was ..or are you not speaking from experience when you say the unions needed smashing ..but an option based yet again on the biased British press .you really should start speaking from experience instead of being the British.press puppet .. Even your views on Fuerteventura weren't based on you're time living here were they ..... | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked " A full time carer gets £62.50 a week which is around £10 PW less then jobseekers! Where is the fairness in that? | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked A full time carer gets £62.50 a week which is around £10 PW less then jobseekers! Where is the fairness in that?" I completely agree. I get feed up when I hear people complaining about wages when people spend all their lifes caring for someone for a petnce so lets have a petition for them. | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked A full time carer gets £62.50 a week which is around £10 PW less then jobseekers! Where is the fairness in that? I completely agree. I get feed up when I hear people complaining about wages when people spend all their lifes caring for someone for a petnce so let s have a petition for them." Whist I agree this needs discussion.... I don't think this is the place for petitions  | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked A full time carer gets £62.50 a week which is around £10 PW less then jobseekers! Where is the fairness in that? I completely agree. I get feed up when I hear people complaining about wages when people spend all their lifes caring for someone for a petnce so let s have a petition for them. Whist I agree this needs discussion.... I don't think this is the place for petitions "agreed  | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked A full time carer gets £62.50 a week which is around £10 PW less then jobseekers! Where is the fairness in that?" you can get income support to bring that amount up to £100 a week. | |||
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"They did have a union agreement on wages, and the staff effected are receiving one lump payments to cover the equivalent difference in wages for the next 18 months. I won't be signing the petition as the union for tesco agreed to it, if they didn't like it then they should have done something about it at the discussion stage. Plus in the age of osterity everyone needs to make cuts, why should long serving people be exempt from that ? Would you rather keep the new staff wages lower to cover the longer serving members of staff ? " now this is why everyone gets shit on at work by employers, simply because no one can make a stand together and fight, every one is out to feather their own nest without giving two f*cks about anyone else this is why the UK is going to the dogs | |||
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"They did have a union agreement on wages, and the staff effected are receiving one lump payments to cover the equivalent difference in wages for the next 18 months. I won't be signing the petition as the union for tesco agreed to it, if they didn't like it then they should have done something about it at the discussion stage. Plus in the age of osterity everyone needs to make cuts, why should long serving people be exempt from that ? Would you rather keep the new staff wages lower to cover the longer serving members of staff ? now this is why everyone gets shit on at work by employers, simply because no one can make a stand together and fight, every one is out to feather their own nest without giving two f*cks about anyone else this is why the UK is going to the dogs" yep that sums up the UK  | |||
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"They did have a union agreement on wages, and the staff effected are receiving one lump payments to cover the equivalent difference in wages for the next 18 months. I won't be signing the petition as the union for tesco agreed to it, if they didn't like it then they should have done something about it at the discussion stage. Plus in the age of osterity everyone needs to make cuts, why should long serving people be exempt from that ? Would you rather keep the new staff wages lower to cover the longer serving members of staff ? now this is why everyone gets shit on at work by employers, simply because no one can make a stand together and fight, every one is out to feather their own nest without giving two f*cks about anyone else this is why the UK is going to the dogs" Wait, who's to blame here, the Union for making this choice or the person posting for not signing a petition going against the Union? | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked A full time carer gets £62.50 a week which is around £10 PW less then jobseekers! Where is the fairness in that? you can get income support to bring that amount up to £100 a week." Still a significantly low "wage" for what is near constant work. Local councils do offer extra benefits, but carers are forgotten about so often. | |||
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"They did have a union agreement on wages, and the staff effected are receiving one lump payments to cover the equivalent difference in wages for the next 18 months. I won't be signing the petition as the union for tesco agreed to it, if they didn't like it then they should have done something about it at the discussion stage. Plus in the age of osterity everyone needs to make cuts, why should long serving people be exempt from that ? Would you rather keep the new staff wages lower to cover the longer serving members of staff ? now this is why everyone gets shit on at work by employers, simply because no one can make a stand together and fight, every one is out to feather their own nest without giving two f*cks about anyone else this is why the UK is going to the dogsyep that sums up the UK "Its because the people in power are using "divide and rule" they are turning the lower classes against each other.....the sad thing is! Its working for them | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked A full time carer gets £62.50 a week which is around £10 PW less then jobseekers! Where is the fairness in that? you can get income support to bring that amount up to £100 a week. Still a significantly low "wage" for what is near constant work. Local councils do offer extra benefits, but carers are forgotten about so often. " It is when you consider that if you can work a little....you do not qualify to be a carer if you earn over £110 PW. The minimum wage at 16 hours will take you above that! Talk about keeping people down! | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked A full time carer gets £62.50 a week which is around £10 PW less then jobseekers! Where is the fairness in that? you can get income support to bring that amount up to £100 a week. Still a significantly low "wage" for what is near constant work. Local councils do offer extra benefits, but carers are forgotten about so often. It is when you consider that if you can work a little....you do not qualify to be a carer if you earn over £110 PW. The minimum wage at 16 hours will take you above that! Talk about keeping people down!" I wasn't talking about keeping people down, you were. Should a full time carer have the time to work 16 hours (I've yet to meet one)? | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked A full time carer gets £62.50 a week which is around £10 PW less then jobseekers! Where is the fairness in that? you can get income support to bring that amount up to £100 a week. Still a significantly low "wage" for what is near constant work. Local councils do offer extra benefits, but carers are forgotten about so often. " yeah, it's rubbish for just a normal working night job, never mind one what entails more hours than that. i more offered that info in case anyone is a carer and didn't know they could claim that really. | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them downthe minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government ..." The large influx of migrants to whom minimum wage is a very good wage for sending money home doesnt help though. Hence why most of these shops have slowly stepped down paying for unsociable hours. Cause they found there were always people willing to work it and so it doesnt need a carrot to get people to do it. | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them downthe minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government ... The large influx of migrants to whom minimum wage is a very good wage for sending money home doesnt help though. Hence why most of these shops have slowly stepped down paying for unsociable hours. Cause they found there were always people willing to work it and so it doesnt need a carrot to get people to do it. " Awwwwwww, you ruined it. | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked A full time carer gets £62.50 a week which is around £10 PW less then jobseekers! Where is the fairness in that? you can get income support to bring that amount up to £100 a week. Still a significantly low "wage" for what is near constant work. Local councils do offer extra benefits, but carers are forgotten about so often. yeah, it's rubbish for just a normal working night job, never mind one what entails more hours than that. i more offered that info in case anyone is a carer and didn't know they could claim that really." I have a full time carer in my family who looks after their spouse, luckily they collect a private pension too to top it up a bit. No chance they'll work part time as the spouse is so reliant on 24/7 care, just seems weird that such a low wage is provided for actual work to me. Also the phrasing of "allowance" seems odd. | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them downthe minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government ... The large influx of migrants to whom minimum wage is a very good wage for sending money home doesnt help though. Hence why most of these shops have slowly stepped down paying for unsociable hours. Cause they found there were always people willing to work it and so it doesnt need a carrot to get people to do it. Awwwwwww, you ruined it. " | |||
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"Plus in the age of osterity everyone needs to make cuts, why should long serving people be exempt from that ? Would you rather keep the new staff wages lower to cover the longer serving members of staff ? MPs wages went up though. I'd like wages to follow that example. Put yourself up for election then
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The people running the country claim there are austerity cuts and their actions contradict that.
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked " Bollocks. My fwb is a carer and is on much, much more than minimum. In fact she's about to get a raise after some training she's just completed. | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked Bollocks. My fwb is a carer and is on much, much more than minimum. In fact she's about to get a raise after some training she's just completed." Is she employed as a private carer, as opposed to someone acting as a carer for a relative? They're two very different things when it comes to pay. | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked Bollocks. My fwb is a carer and is on much, much more than minimum. In fact she's about to get a raise after some training she's just completed." I dont think they mean employed carers but family members looking after a family member who is ill or disabled. But correct me if i'm wrong if youre in that position you get a hoast of other benifits along the line of housing benifit and council tax exemption? Which would make using the cash in hand figure disingenuous | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them downthe minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government ..." | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked Bollocks. My fwb is a carer and is on much, much more than minimum. In fact she's about to get a raise after some training she's just completed. I dont think they mean employed carers but family members looking after a family member who is ill or disabled. But correct me if i'm wrong if youre in that position you get a hoast of other benifits along the line of housing benifit and council tax exemption? Which would make using the cash in hand figure disingenuous " My mistake, she works in a care home. | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked Bollocks. My fwb is a carer and is on much, much more than minimum. In fact she's about to get a raise after some training she's just completed." Lucky her. Is she employed as a carer or getting carers allowance? It's called an allowance because to admit it's work would mean that being paid would mean at NMW, with a pension etc. Although if you get a direct payments/personal budget to use then you become an employer to the person you pay to care for you and need to sort out pension payments etc. | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked Bollocks. My fwb is a carer and is on much, much more than minimum. In fact she's about to get a raise after some training she's just completed. I dont think they mean employed carers but family members looking after a family member who is ill or disabled. But correct me if i'm wrong if youre in that position you get a hoast of other benifits along the line of housing benifit and council tax exemption? Which would make using the cash in hand figure disingenuous " you don't get help with anything for being a carer. if you can claim income support you'll get reductions on council tax and might be able to get help with housing benefit. but say you had a mortgage? a lot of people have to give up work to care for someone. | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked Bollocks. My fwb is a carer and is on much, much more than minimum. In fact she's about to get a raise after some training she's just completed. I dont think they mean employed carers but family members looking after a family member who is ill or disabled. But correct me if i'm wrong if youre in that position you get a hoast of other benifits along the line of housing benifit and council tax exemption? Which would make using the cash in hand figure disingenuous you don't get help with anything for being a carer. if you can claim income support you'll get reductions on council tax and might be able to get help with housing benefit. but say you had a mortgage? a lot of people have to give up work to care for someone." If they're living with the person they're caring for, they'll get better discounts in stuff. Sometimes making an appointment with the council is a good idea, or speaking to Carers UK. | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked A full time carer gets £62.50 a week which is around £10 PW less then jobseekers! Where is the fairness in that? you can get income support to bring that amount up to £100 a week. Still a significantly low "wage" for what is near constant work. Local councils do offer extra benefits, but carers are forgotten about so often. It is when you consider that if you can work a little....you do not qualify to be a carer if you earn over £110 PW. The minimum wage at 16 hours will take you above that! Talk about keeping people down! I wasn't talking about keeping people down, you were. Should a full time carer have the time to work 16 hours (I've yet to meet one)?" I wasn't having a pop at you....when I said talking about keeping people down I meant as a whole. The bit about the 16 hours was to put it in retrospect the £62.50 they pay for endless amounts of work as a carer whist if a person is doing all that and they can't even have 16 hours away from it all...it shows what a sham it all is. | |||
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"Start me up a petition op I only get double time at Christmas and basic rest of the year " This. One day a year we get double time (boxing day) and that's it. | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked A full time carer gets £62.50 a week which is around £10 PW less then jobseekers! Where is the fairness in that? you can get income support to bring that amount up to £100 a week. Still a significantly low "wage" for what is near constant work. Local councils do offer extra benefits, but carers are forgotten about so often. yeah, it's rubbish for just a normal working night job, never mind one what entails more hours than that. i more offered that info in case anyone is a carer and didn't know they could claim that really. I have a full time carer in my family who looks after their spouse, luckily they collect a private pension too to top it up a bit. No chance they'll work part time as the spouse is so reliant on 24/7 care, just seems weird that such a low wage is provided for actual work to me. Also the phrasing of "allowance" seems odd. " yeah like has been said above, it's called an allowance coz they class caring as not work. you need an official piece of paper to work a proper job. looking after people isn't anything you can get qualifications for so nobody cares or recognises it as useful to society. it's pretty insulting really. | |||
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"Start me up a petition op I only get double time at Christmas and basic rest of the year This. One day a year we get double time (boxing day) and that's it." A carer never gets double time! | |||
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"Start me up a petition op I only get double time at Christmas and basic rest of the year This. One day a year we get double time (boxing day) and that's it. A carer never gets double time!" I was referring more to the original subject. | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked A full time carer gets £62.50 a week which is around £10 PW less then jobseekers! Where is the fairness in that? you can get income support to bring that amount up to £100 a week. Still a significantly low "wage" for what is near constant work. Local councils do offer extra benefits, but carers are forgotten about so often. yeah, it's rubbish for just a normal working night job, never mind one what entails more hours than that. i more offered that info in case anyone is a carer and didn't know they could claim that really. I have a full time carer in my family who looks after their spouse, luckily they collect a private pension too to top it up a bit. No chance they'll work part time as the spouse is so reliant on 24/7 care, just seems weird that such a low wage is provided for actual work to me. Also the phrasing of "allowance" seems odd. yeah like has been said above, it's called an allowance coz they class caring as not work. you need an official piece of paper to work a proper job. looking after people isn't anything you can get qualifications for so nobody cares or recognises it as useful to society. it's pretty insulting really." It's worse when you consider the cost of private carers, you're talking potentially thousands a week. It's a shame that just because they're a relative, suddenly you can do it for next to nothing. Like I said though, local councils sometimes do their own bits and pieces. Bucks CC give a few hundred quid for carers to take a holiday as so few get a decent break. | |||
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"Start me up a petition op I only get double time at Christmas and basic rest of the year " I have never had double time, not even time and a half, so yeah... *violins* | |||
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"Start me up a petition op I only get double time at Christmas and basic rest of the year I have never had double time, not even time and a half, so yeah... *violins*" I got Double time and a day holiday back for working a bank holiday :p It really helps when your employer is desperate to get people to do overtime lol | |||
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"So just to try and work it out here as im a bit lost. husband and wife both work etc. Man gets some kind of critical illness/injury that now means he needs 24/7 care at home to live. Woman stops work to look after man. So both are now out of work What would they actually get at this point benifits/alowances/supoet and discounts etc" Depends on her disability for her own benefits, and which allowances. He'll possibly get carers allowance, around £62 a week. | |||
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"So just to try and work it out here as im a bit lost. husband and wife both work etc. Man gets some kind of critical illness/injury that now means he needs 24/7 care at home to live. Woman stops work to look after man. So both are now out of work What would they actually get at this point benifits/alowances/supoet and discounts etc Depends on her disability for her own benefits, and which allowances. He'll possibly get carers allowance, around £62 a week. " Sorry misread. Change genders. Depends on his injuries on whether he gets DLA, PIP or what. | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked A full time carer gets £62.50 a week which is around £10 PW less then jobseekers! Where is the fairness in that? you can get income support to bring that amount up to £100 a week. Still a significantly low "wage" for what is near constant work. Local councils do offer extra benefits, but carers are forgotten about so often. yeah, it's rubbish for just a normal working night job, never mind one what entails more hours than that. i more offered that info in case anyone is a carer and didn't know they could claim that really. I have a full time carer in my family who looks after their spouse, luckily they collect a private pension too to top it up a bit. No chance they'll work part time as the spouse is so reliant on 24/7 care, just seems weird that such a low wage is provided for actual work to me. Also the phrasing of "allowance" seems odd. yeah like has been said above, it's called an allowance coz they class caring as not work. you need an official piece of paper to work a proper job. looking after people isn't anything you can get qualifications for so nobody cares or recognises it as useful to society. it's pretty insulting really. It's worse when you consider the cost of private carers, you're talking potentially thousands a week. It's a shame that just because they're a relative, suddenly you can do it for next to nothing. Like I said though, local councils sometimes do their own bits and pieces. Bucks CC give a few hundred quid for carers to take a holiday as so few get a decent break. " my mate was a carer for her mum, and they didn't live together. luckily her husband was supportive of her and he managed to work from home. but she hardly slept for years and idk how she even managed really. she was so upbeat and perky as well. 
SS gave another friend loads of holidays because her daughter is disabled, and they got a house built specially adapted. it is lucky really. all these services are over stretched and trying to cope but they don't always manage it straight away or at all sometimes.
i know ther'es loads of charities that help out as well. i didn't know councils could help out though, thanks. that info might come in handy. | |||
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"So just to try and work it out here as im a bit lost. husband and wife both work etc. Man gets some kind of critical illness/injury that now means he needs 24/7 care at home to live. Woman stops work to look after man. So both are now out of work What would they actually get at this point benifits/alowances/supoet and discounts etc" It all depends on circumstances... The severity of the illness...housing needs whether they own their home or rent. There is no set figure for the person who is I'll....but there is for the carer @ £62.50  | |||
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"So just to try and work it out here as im a bit lost. husband and wife both work etc. Man gets some kind of critical illness/injury that now means he needs 24/7 care at home to live. Woman stops work to look after man. So both are now out of work What would they actually get at this point benifits/alowances/supoet and discounts etc It all depends on circumstances... The severity of the illness...housing needs whether they own their home or rent. There is no set figure for the person who is I'll....but there is for the carer @ £62.50 "So what happens if the partner just continues to work. Would the gov/nhs cover the cost of a professional carer | |||
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"So just to try and work it out here as im a bit lost. husband and wife both work etc. Man gets some kind of critical illness/injury that now means he needs 24/7 care at home to live. Woman stops work to look after man. So both are now out of work What would they actually get at this point benifits/alowances/supoet and discounts etc It all depends on circumstances... The severity of the illness...housing needs whether they own their home or rent. There is no set figure for the person who is I'll....but there is for the carer @ £62.50
So what happens if the partner just continues to work.
Would the gov/nhs cover the cost of a professional carer "You're required to pay for care if you're wanting 24 hour homecare assistance. A lot of disabled people don't have the funds to pay £150k a year so it's not a choice for most. Even subsidised by local authorities, it's too much. It's also often why relatives are put in care facilities like a nursing home. | |||
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"So just to try and work it out here as im a bit lost. husband and wife both work etc. Man gets some kind of critical illness/injury that now means he needs 24/7 care at home to live. Woman stops work to look after man. So both are now out of work What would they actually get at this point benifits/alowances/supoet and discounts etc It all depends on circumstances... The severity of the illness...housing needs whether they own their home or rent. There is no set figure for the person who is I'll....but there is for the carer @ £62.50
So what happens if the partner just continues to work.
Would the gov/nhs cover the cost of a professional carer
You're required to pay for care if you're wanting 24 hour homecare assistance. A lot of disabled people don't have the funds to pay £150k a year so it's not a choice for most. Even subsidised by local authorities, it's too much. It's also often why relatives are put in care facilities like a nursing home. "FYI my relatives looked into partial homecare to give the partner time off and a mental break from being constantly on the clock. They were quoted £800 a day back in the early 90s. I don't expect it will be cheaper now. | |||
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"So just to try and work it out here as im a bit lost. husband and wife both work etc. Man gets some kind of critical illness/injury that now means he needs 24/7 care at home to live. Woman stops work to look after man. So both are now out of work What would they actually get at this point benifits/alowances/supoet and discounts etc It all depends on circumstances... The severity of the illness...housing needs whether they own their home or rent. There is no set figure for the person who is I'll....but there is for the carer @ £62.50
So what happens if the partner just continues to work.
Would the gov/nhs cover the cost of a professional carer "No the partner can still work and the ill person will qualify for a carer...but who else would take that on for £62.50 full time.....and don't forget it is a lot more then a 40 hour week. | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them downthe minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government ..." | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them downthe minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government ... So it was Thatcher who brought in the minimum wage was it?
And if the unions still had the power they used to have nobody would have a bleedin job. Oh except for the hypocrites and leeches at the top of the unionswow your stupidity exceeds itself this time ...the EU were instrumental in minimum wage and the Tories smashed the unions ..leading to high unemployment only lowered by fiddling the figures ..well it clearly hasn't worked without the powerful unions has it
Why what's the minimum wage in the Eu? And the unions needed smashing at the timeminimum wage in EU same as uk its the lowest amount an employer can pay .i take it you were a tory Politian in the early eighties.or a senior union official as I was ..or are you not speaking from experience when you say the unions needed smashing ..but an option based yet again on the biased British press .you really should start speaking from experience instead of being the British.press puppet .. Even your views on Fuerteventura weren't based on you're time living here were they ....."I am speaking from experience, the only time I ever needed the union they wouldn't support me at an industrial tribunal and backed the company over redundancy pay. I won at the tribunal and was awarded £1000 and so were 30 others following the case. The company's response? To sack my girlfriend of the time who worked at the same place. The unions response? Fuck all. Useless. And as a senior union official you seem to have done ok eh, sitting in the sun at 56
The introduction of the minimum wage and tax credits has actually made a hell of a lot more people worse off than it has helped
Oh, and on the Fuertaventura front I once spent the longest 2 weeks of my life there and saw plenty of the island, spending the days getting sand blasted and the nights sat in empty purpose built soulless bars. You are quite welcome to it | |||
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"i will boycott tescos also, well was already doing this. i boycott anywhere that takes welfare to work anyway coz i know they don't like paying their staff. I don't know much about it but whats wrong with welfare to work? people who don't like paying wages use it. you can pay trainees but with welfare to work you don't need to coz it's classed as job experience and not an actual job." . And what exactly is wrong with that ?. It gives people a chance to prove themselves . Those with talent will find that their skills are snapped up. | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them downthe minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government ..." . I think you will find that union powers destroyed many businneses . You make progress in life by educating yourself. and taking risks , no one owes you a leaving . | |||
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"Plus in the age of osterity everyone needs to make cuts, why should long serving people be exempt from that ? Would you rather keep the new staff wages lower to cover the longer serving members of staff ? MPs wages went up though. I'd like wages to follow that example." . That however is not a like for like comparison . There are only a small number of MPs but Tesco have to manage a payroll of at least 250,000. In addition Tesco are accountable to their share holders and it is generally acknowledged that they treat their workers well. Most members of the public want to pay as little as possible for their food. | |||
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"i will boycott tescos also, well was already doing this. i boycott anywhere that takes welfare to work anyway coz i know they don't like paying their staff. I don't know much about it but whats wrong with welfare to work? people who don't like paying wages use it. you can pay trainees but with welfare to work you don't need to coz it's classed as job experience and not an actual job.. And what exactly is wrong with that ?. It gives people a chance to prove themselves . Those with talent will find that their skills are snapped up. " Idk, when i was doing it i never got employed, despite having previously worked proper jobs that i got wages for. Every place i worked for shut down, they needed to extra money the government paid them for taking on trainees. I only worked about 4 placements though. BT, that i was on placement with, got fined for just hiring more free workers instead of employing anyone once the 'free trial period' had finished. It sets up ways that people can be employed for nothing and the tax payers pay the wages, which is how tax credits is but at least the employer contributes something there. I just feel like in this day and age, when you look at some companies profits and how much they pay the top earners, that the majority of employees should be doing much better than they are. And that no-one should be working for nothing unless they volunteer to do that, and workfare isn't voluntary. | |||
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"i will boycott tescos also, well was already doing this. i boycott anywhere that takes welfare to work anyway coz i know they don't like paying their staff. I don't know much about it but whats wrong with welfare to work? people who don't like paying wages use it. you can pay trainees but with welfare to work you don't need to coz it's classed as job experience and not an actual job.. And what exactly is wrong with that ?. It gives people a chance to prove themselves . Those with talent will find that their skills are snapped up. Idk, when i was doing it i never got employed, despite having previously worked proper jobs that i got wages for. Every place i worked for shut down, they needed to extra money the government paid them for taking on trainees. I only worked about 4 placements though. BT, that i was on placement with, got fined for just hiring more free workers instead of employing anyone once the 'free trial period' had finished. It sets up ways that people can be employed for nothing and the tax payers pay the wages, which is how tax credits is but at least the employer contributes something there. I just feel like in this day and age, when you look at some companies profits and how much they pay the top earners, that the majority of employees should be doing much better than they are. And that no-one should be working for nothing unless they volunteer to do that, and workfare isn't voluntary." | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them downthe minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government .... I think you will find that union powers destroyed many businneses . You make progress in life by educating thing . and taking risks , no one owes you a leaving . " nope smashing the trade unions divided the workforce and the company bosses and shareholder's reaped the rewards ..its called divide and rule your right nobody will give you anything you have to group together and fight for it its called a UNION wether it be a trade or economic UNION ...you'll only win when you band together history has shown us that .. | |||
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"i will boycott tescos also, well was already doing this. i boycott anywhere that takes welfare to work anyway coz i know they don't like paying their staff. I don't know much about it but whats wrong with welfare to work? people who don't like paying wages use it. you can pay trainees but with welfare to work you don't need to coz it's classed as job experience and not an actual job.. And what exactly is wrong with that ?. It gives people a chance to prove themselves . Those with talent will find that their skills are snapped up. Idk, when i was doing it i never got employed, despite having previously worked proper jobs that i got wages for. Every place i worked for shut down, they needed to extra money the government paid them for taking on trainees. I only worked about 4 placements though. BT, that i was on placement with, got fined for just hiring more free workers instead of employing anyone once the 'free trial period' had finished. It sets up ways that people can be employed for nothing and the tax payers pay the wages, which is how tax credits is but at least the employer contributes something there. I just feel like in this day and age, when you look at some companies profits and how much they pay the top earners, that the majority of employees should be doing much better than they are. And that no-one should be working for nothing unless they volunteer to do that, and workfare isn't voluntary." But they aren't working for nothing. They're working for the free money they've been given. how long do you have to be on JSA without finding work before being put on workfare. | |||
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"They did have a union agreement on wages, and the staff effected are receiving one lump payments to cover the equivalent difference in wages for the next 18 months. I won't be signing the petition as the union for tesco agreed to it, if they didn't like it then they should have done something about it at the discussion stage. Plus in the age of osterity everyone needs to make cuts, why should long serving people be exempt from that ? Would you rather keep the new staff wages lower to cover the longer serving members of staff ? now this is why everyone gets shit on at work by employers, simply because no one can make a stand together and fight, every one is out to feather their own nest without giving two f*cks about anyone else this is why the UK is going to the dogs" . I don't think that many people want to pay more for goods so that workers get paid more . Tesco are a very successfull company when judged over a forty year period and we should be extremely gratefull for all tthe jobs and careers which they have created . | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them downthe minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government .... I think you will find that union powers destroyed many businneses . You make progress in life by educating thing . and taking risks , no one owes you a leaving . nope smashing the trade unions divided the workforce and the company bosses and shareholder's reaped the rewards ..its called divide and rule your right nobody will give you anything you have to group together and fight for it its called a UNION wether it be a trade or economic UNION ...you'll only win when you band together history has shown us that .." . So are you saying that we all must pay more for our goods in order to support unions and a variety of other Spanish Practices . | |||
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"i will boycott tescos also, well was already doing this. i boycott anywhere that takes welfare to work anyway coz i know they don't like paying their staff. I don't know much about it but whats wrong with welfare to work? people who don't like paying wages use it. you can pay trainees but with welfare to work you don't need to coz it's classed as job experience and not an actual job.. And what exactly is wrong with that ?. It gives people a chance to prove themselves . Those with talent will find that their skills are snapped up. Idk, when i was doing it i never got employed, despite having previously worked proper jobs that i got wages for. Every place i worked for shut down, they needed to extra money the government paid them for taking on trainees. I only worked about 4 placements though. BT, that i was on placement with, got fined for just hiring more free workers instead of employing anyone once the 'free trial period' had finished. It sets up ways that people can be employed for nothing and the tax payers pay the wages, which is how tax credits is but at least the employer contributes something there. I just feel like in this day and age, when you look at some companies profits and how much they pay the top earners, that the majority of employees should be doing much better than they are. And that no-one should be working for nothing unless they volunteer to do that, and workfare isn't voluntary. But they aren't working for nothing. They're working for the free money they've been given. how long do you have to be on JSA without finding work before being put on workfare. " Their employer isn't paying them, so they are working for nothing, no pay. The tax payer is paying their wages and i don't agree with that. I don't think people should be paid for doing nothing as well, which is why you have to be looking for employment to receive JSA. and that's all there is to it. no need to force people to take on 30 hours a week unpaid work when they are looking for paid work. | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them downthe minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government .... I think you will find that union powers destroyed many businneses . You make progress in life by educating thing . and taking risks , no one owes you a leaving . nope smashing the trade unions divided the workforce and the company bosses and shareholder's reaped the rewards ..its called divide and rule your right nobody will give you anything you have to group together and fight for it its called a UNION wether it be a trade or economic UNION ...you'll only win when you band together history has shown us that ... So are you saying that we all must pay more for our goods in order to support unions and a variety of other Spanish Practices . " nope I'm saying companies should take less profits and look after their staff ...i know that's hard for you to comprehend as you seem to be another one brainwashed over the years by the mass media the trade union of the 70s looked after and represented its members ..who fought for equal pay for women .anual holiday entitlement sick pay ect .none of witch were given by employers but fought for by the people who worked within industries ... | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them downthe minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government .... I think you will find that union powers destroyed many businneses . You make progress in life by educating thing . and taking risks , no one owes you a leaving . nope smashing the trade unions divided the workforce and the company bosses and shareholder's reaped the rewards ..its called divide and rule your right nobody will give you anything you have to group together and fight for it its called a UNION wether it be a trade or economic UNION ...you'll only win when you band together history has shown us that ... So are you saying that we all must pay more for our goods in order to support unions and a variety of other Spanish Practices . nope I'm saying companies should take less profits and look after their staff ...i know that's hard for you to comprehend as you seem to be another one brainwashed over the years by the mass media the trade union of the 70s looked after and represented its members ..who fought for equal pay for women .anual holiday entitlement sick pay ect .none of witch were given by employers but fought for by the people who worked within industries ..." . I think Tesco has a fairly generous share incentive scheme for its employees . What happens if profits drop and investors decide to move their money elsewhere ?. | |||
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"i will boycott tescos also, well was already doing this. i boycott anywhere that takes welfare to work anyway coz i know they don't like paying their staff. I don't know much about it but whats wrong with welfare to work? people who don't like paying wages use it. you can pay trainees but with welfare to work you don't need to coz it's classed as job experience and not an actual job.. And what exactly is wrong with that ?. It gives people a chance to prove themselves . Those with talent will find that their skills are snapped up. Idk, when i was doing it i never got employed, despite having previously worked proper jobs that i got wages for. Every place i worked for shut down, they needed to extra money the government paid them for taking on trainees. I only worked about 4 placements though. BT, that i was on placement with, got fined for just hiring more free workers instead of employing anyone once the 'free trial period' had finished. It sets up ways that people can be employed for nothing and the tax payers pay the wages, which is how tax credits is but at least the employer contributes something there. I just feel like in this day and age, when you look at some companies profits and how much they pay the top earners, that the majority of employees should be doing much better than they are. And that no-one should be working for nothing unless they volunteer to do that, and workfare isn't voluntary. But they aren't working for nothing. They're working for the free money they've been given. how long do you have to be on JSA without finding work before being put on workfare. Their employer isn't paying them, so they are working for nothing, no pay. The tax payer is paying their wages and i don't agree with that. I don't think people should be paid for doing nothing as well, which is why you have to be looking for employment to receive JSA. and that's all there is to it. no need to force people to take on 30 hours a week unpaid work when they are looking for paid work." If you want to play semantics they're not working for no pay. They are undertaking voluntary work experence as a condition of thier benifit payment. Iirc you have to have been on JSA unsuccessfully for quite a long time before being put on workfare. | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them downthe minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government .... I think you will find that union powers destroyed many businneses . You make progress in life by educating thing . and taking risks , no one owes you a leaving . nope smashing the trade unions divided the workforce and the company bosses and shareholder's reaped the rewards ..its called divide and rule your right nobody will give you anything you have to group together and fight for it its called a UNION wether it be a trade or economic UNION ...you'll only win when you band together history has shown us that ... So are you saying that we all must pay more for our goods in order to support unions and a variety of other Spanish Practices . nope I'm saying companies should take less profits and look after their staff ...i know that's hard for you to comprehend as you seem to be another one brainwashed over the years by the mass media the trade union of the 70s looked after and represented its members ..who fought for equal pay for women .anual holiday entitlement sick pay ect .none of witch were given by employers but fought for by the people who worked within industries .... I think Tesco has a fairly generous share incentive scheme for its employees . What happens if profits drop and investors decide to move their money elsewhere ?. " what like last years massive profits fall best way to boycott tesco or any of the big supermarkets is to just buy there fuel ass its a loss leader to get you to the store they make zero on fuel sales so your hurting them | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked A full time carer gets £62.50 a week which is around £10 PW less then jobseekers! Where is the fairness in that? you can get income support to bring that amount up to £100 a week. Still a significantly low "wage" for what is near constant work. Local councils do offer extra benefits, but carers are forgotten about so often. It is when you consider that if you can work a little....you do not qualify to be a carer if you earn over £110 PW. The minimum wage at 16 hours will take you above that! Talk about keeping people down! I wasn't talking about keeping people down, you were. Should a full time carer have the time to work 16 hours (I've yet to meet one)?" My sister is full time carer for our mum who has primary progressive MS. Two years into caring for mum full time it started to take it's toll on her mental health, her Gp suggested that she needed some time away and advised her that she is permitted to work a few hours a week as well as being a carer. Advised that it would help her to have time to just be herself and make new friends instead of just being carer. My sister now works 12 hours a week, over two afternoons at sainsburys. She has had issues at work because she can't change her working hours at short notice and cannot work overtime. But, 6months into her employment, her manager finally understands that mum is her first priority and work is just an added extra that helps her to have some time away and keep her sanity. We're not sure how much longer my sister will be able to keep her job as mum's condition is getting worse by the day and dad's ability to care for her when my sister is at work is diminishing as he ages. His health conditions are getting more noticeable and he is starting to need some care too. We can be sure of one thing though, and that is that she will keep working for as long as she possibly can because she is absolutely certain that it is the one thing that keeps her going. | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them downthe minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government .... I think you will find that union powers destroyed many businneses . You make progress in life by educating thing . and taking risks , no one owes you a leaving . nope smashing the trade unions divided the workforce and the company bosses and shareholder's reaped the rewards ..its called divide and rule your right nobody will give you anything you have to group together and fight for it its called a UNION wether it be a trade or economic UNION ...you'll only win when you band together history has shown us that ... So are you saying that we all must pay more for our goods in order to support unions and a variety of other Spanish Practices . nope I'm saying companies should take less profits and look after their staff ...i know that's hard for you to comprehend as you seem to be another one brainwashed over the years by the mass media the trade union of the 70s looked after and represented its members ..who fought for equal pay for women .anual holiday entitlement sick pay ect .none of witch were given by employers but fought for by the people who worked within industries .... I think Tesco has a fairly generous share incentive scheme for its employees . What happens if profits drop and investors decide to move their money elsewhere ?. " if profits drop and investors leave it would close wether they had a union to fight for decent wages or not ..no business gives workers have to take | |||
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"This has been the problem with the minimum wage for years. Rather than bring wages up it has actually kept them downthe minimum wage was introduced because employers were paying less its not the introduction of a minimum that's kept wages down its employers not willing to pay more ...and the loss of union powers to support workers in there struggle to gain better pay and conditions ...another bad decision by the British people electing the thatcher tory government .... I think you will find that union powers destroyed many businneses . You make progress in life by educating thing . and taking risks , no one owes you a leaving . nope smashing the trade unions divided the workforce and the company bosses and shareholder's reaped the rewards ..its called divide and rule your right nobody will give you anything you have to group together and fight for it its called a UNION wether it be a trade or economic UNION ...you'll only win when you band together history has shown us that ... So are you saying that we all must pay more for our goods in order to support unions and a variety of other Spanish Practices . nope I'm saying companies should take less profits and look after their staff ...i know that's hard for you to comprehend as you seem to be another one brainwashed over the years by the mass media the trade union of the 70s looked after and represented its members ..who fought for equal pay for women .anual holiday entitlement sick pay ect .none of witch were given by employers but fought for by the people who worked within industries .... I think Tesco has a fairly generous share incentive scheme for its employees . What happens if profits drop and investors decide to move their money elsewhere ?. if profits drop and investors leave it would close wether they had a union to fight for decent wages or not ..no business gives workers have to take " What's tesco's massive profit margin and how does it compare to the massive profit margins of the other big supermarkets? | |||
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"OP What about the other jobs that don't get paid any extra for working late and working Sundays and bank holidays? ? Like car salesmen etc? Will you start a petition for them too while your at it please "That's a comparison that supports the race to the bottom. Implementing the absolute minimum as a new normalised typical wage would be an awful move for bushiness to take. | |||
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"Carer's need a wage increase they get paid min wage for any days they work unless their really lucky and they are always over looked A full time carer gets £62.50 a week which is around £10 PW less then jobseekers! Where is the fairness in that? That was the point I was trying to get across ..people who are caring the vast majority of the time also need a little life of their own. But the restrictions do not seem fair for such a pittance of a allowance. you can get income support to bring that amount up to £100 a week. Still a significantly low "wage" for what is near constant work. Local councils do offer extra benefits, but carers are forgotten about so often. It is when you consider that if you can work a little....you do not qualify to be a carer if you earn over £110 PW. The minimum wage at 16 hours will take you above that! Talk about keeping people down! I wasn't talking about keeping people down, you were. Should a full time carer have the time to work 16 hours (I've yet to meet one)? My sister is full time carer for our mum who has primary progressive MS. Two years into caring for mum full time it started to take it's toll on her mental health, her Gp suggested that she needed some time away and advised her that she is permitted to work a few hours a week as well as being a carer. Advised that it would help her to have time to just be herself and make new friends instead of just being carer. My sister now works 12 hours a week, over two afternoons at sainsburys. She has had issues at work because she can't change her working hours at short notice and cannot work overtime. But, 6months into her employment, her manager finally understands that mum is her first priority and work is just an added extra that helps her to have some time away and keep her sanity. We're not sure how much longer my sister will be able to keep her job as mum's condition is getting worse by the day and dad's ability to care for her when my sister is at work is diminishing as he ages. His health conditions are getting more noticeable and he is starting to need some care too. We can be sure of one thing though, and that is that she will keep working for as long as she possibly can because she is absolutely certain that it is the one thing that keeps her going. " That was the point I was trying to get across. Thank you People who are caring for someone for the majority of the time also need some time away. But the restrictions of this, for such a small allowance do not seem fair. | |||
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"i will boycott tescos also, well was already doing this. i boycott anywhere that takes welfare to work anyway coz i know they don't like paying their staff. I don't know much about it but whats wrong with welfare to work? people who don't like paying wages use it. you can pay trainees but with welfare to work you don't need to coz it's classed as job experience and not an actual job.. And what exactly is wrong with that ?. It gives people a chance to prove themselves . Those with talent will find that their skills are snapped up. Idk, when i was doing it i never got employed, despite having previously worked proper jobs that i got wages for. Every place i worked for shut down, they needed to extra money the government paid them for taking on trainees. I only worked about 4 placements though. BT, that i was on placement with, got fined for just hiring more free workers instead of employing anyone once the 'free trial period' had finished. It sets up ways that people can be employed for nothing and the tax payers pay the wages, which is how tax credits is but at least the employer contributes something there. I just feel like in this day and age, when you look at some companies profits and how much they pay the top earners, that the majority of employees should be doing much better than they are. And that no-one should be working for nothing unless they volunteer to do that, and workfare isn't voluntary. But they aren't working for nothing. They're working for the free money they've been given. how long do you have to be on JSA without finding work before being put on workfare. Their employer isn't paying them, so they are working for nothing, no pay. The tax payer is paying their wages and i don't agree with that. I don't think people should be paid for doing nothing as well, which is why you have to be looking for employment to receive JSA. and that's all there is to it. no need to force people to take on 30 hours a week unpaid work when they are looking for paid work. If you want to play semantics they're not working for no pay. They are undertaking voluntary work experence as a condition of thier benifit payment. Iirc you have to have been on JSA unsuccessfully for quite a long time before being put on workfare. " I'm not playing anything. Their employers pay them nothing and i object to this. JSA is job seekers allowance not slaves allowance. People who claim this money want a real job yet have to work for nothing, for months. With NO guarantee of a real job at the end of it. That was under labour where you had to be on it for months to go on training schemes. Now you have to apply for *amount of jobs (usually 40) a week or go on training from the off. My ex went on training because it was impossible for him to meet the job quota, and he went for training in a job where he used to be employed as the assistant manager, so his training he'd already done previously to get that job but this time he knew there was no job for him. He still did it, doesn't like sitting around doing nothing but there was no pay or job for him and he went into this knowing that because he couldn't make the apply for 40 jobs a week thing. | |||
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"OP What about the other jobs that don't get paid any extra for working late and working Sundays and bank holidays? ? Like car salesmen etc? Will you start a petition for them too while your at it please "car salesmen/women get commission on sales | |||
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"Right so because the loony lefties won't answer my question, here are the facts. Between 2004 and 2014, tesco created 174,694 jobs of which over 3/4 were full. Tesco employs more women than men, which is rare and at all levels women are better represented than other company averages with over a quarter of senior management positions held by women, including on the board. Tesco makes a bullshit average 3.5% net profit which is considerably below the stock market average of 8.3% but comparable with Wal-Mart. The primary beneficiaries have not been shareholders because Tesco barely makes profit which is why world famous investor Warren Buffet dumped the stock and described buying it as a huge mistake. Fun fact, if tesco gave a £1.56 an hour pay rise to all its staff then in 2014 it wouldn't have made any profit. In 2013 it almost made a loss and I doubt the staff want to give any wages back to the company if it had. The primary beneficiaries of all this are consumers who won't pay more for their groceries and therefore the only way for tesco to compete with Wal-Mart is to pay what it does. " . A very interesting and realistic post . Thanks for posting it . | |||
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"Right so because the loony lefties won't answer my question, here are the facts. Between 2004 and 2014, tesco created 174,694 jobs of which over 3/4 were full. Tesco employs more women than men, which is rare and at all levels women are better represented than other company averages with over a quarter of senior management positions held by women, including on the board. Tesco makes a bullshit average 3.5% net profit which is considerably below the stock market average of 8.3% but comparable with Wal-Mart. The primary beneficiaries have not been shareholders because Tesco barely makes profit which is why world famous investor Warren Buffet dumped the stock and described buying it as a huge mistake. Fun fact, if tesco gave a £1.56 an hour pay rise to all its staff then in 2014 it wouldn't have made any profit. In 2013 it almost made a loss and I doubt the staff want to give any wages back to the company if it had. The primary beneficiaries of all this are consumers who won't pay more for their groceries and therefore the only way for tesco to compete with Wal-Mart is to pay what it does. . A very interesting and realistic post . Thanks for posting it ." Honestly, I don't know how people can talk about greedy corporations that make 3.5% net profit and keep a straight face. | |||
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