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Ian. Brady. 50 years behind bars.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Your thoughts please (fabbers).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Rehashing old news nothing new would not give him time of day and stuck him in the gas chamber x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He deserved the sentence he got.

He shan't be released

I'm happy with that.

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By *edheadsruleCouple
over a year ago

lancashire

I'm torn between I'm glad he will rot in prison and why should tax payers be paying for his miserable carcass and he deserves a painful death

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Your thoughts please (fabbers)."

Good

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

death sentance would be too good for him hes not human

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"death sentance would be too good for him hes not human"

As much as Brady is a vile offence to humanity, I am totally opposed to the death penalty.

He can rot in prison, that's fine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He's wanted to die for time. I like it that he can't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's wanted to die for time. I like it that he can't "

I would prefer that he was allowed to die.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

The last I read of him was that he wished to die.

I would like him to be shown compassion and for this to take place soon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should've saved the country a fortune and put the fucker down 50 years ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My thoughts is that he's very deranged mentally and that he'll probably be in hospital for the rest of his life.

I'm happy that the system dealt with him in the best way for everyone

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"He deserved the sentence he got.

He shan't be released

I'm happy with that. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't care, let him rot. I won't be watching

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think murderers kill people. I wouldn't want capital punishment on my conscience. I'm glad he's serving a large sentence instead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The last I read of him was that he wished to die.

I would like him to be shown compassion and for this to take place soon.

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He's in hospital because he's insane and therefore can't make rational decisions.

That's why his wishes can't be taken into account

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hope he lives another 20 years and slowly rots.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He has cost hundreds of thousands of pounds to keep secure and well and has never shown the slighest remorse.

About time he was accidentally transferred to a general population wing. Let him learn a bit about pain and suffering.

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

After all that time inside he's probably insane anyway. Makes one wonder how many of the 'old school' killers are still locked up. We only hear of the notorious ones.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My thoughts is that he's very deranged mentally and that he'll probably be in hospital for the rest of his life.

I'm happy that the system dealt with him in the best way for everyone"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The last I read of him was that he wished to die.

I would like him to be shown compassion and for this to take place soon.

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Why he has never shown compassion or remorse yell us where Keith is buried and then gladly put him out of his misery x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He has cost hundreds of thousands of pounds to keep secure and well and has never shown the slighest remorse.

About time he was accidentally transferred to a general population wing. Let him learn a bit about pain and suffering."

Criminals killing criminals.

That'd make great TV

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The last I read of him was that he wished to die.

I would like him to be shown compassion and for this to take place soon.

Why he has never shown compassion or remorse yell us where Keith is buried and then gladly put him out of his misery x"

So you want him gassed or alive? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The last I read of him was that he wished to die.

I would like him to be shown compassion and for this to take place soon.

Why he has never shown compassion or remorse yell us where Keith is buried and then gladly put him out of his misery x

So you want him gassed or alive? You can't have your cake and eat it too. "

I would of had him gassed years ago but he is still alive isn't he x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The last I read of him was that he wished to die.

I would like him to be shown compassion and for this to take place soon.

Why he has never shown compassion or remorse yell us where Keith is buried and then gladly put him out of his misery x

So you want him gassed or alive? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

I would of had him gassed years ago but he is still alive isn't he x"

Why gassed?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The last I read of him was that he wished to die.

I would like him to be shown compassion and for this to take place soon.

Why he has never shown compassion or remorse yell us where Keith is buried and then gladly put him out of his misery x

So you want him gassed or alive? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

I would of had him gassed years ago but he is still alive isn't he x"

I'm curious as to why gassed.

It's not a common form of execution.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh no

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The last I read of him was that he wished to die.

I would like him to be shown compassion and for this to take place soon.

Why he has never shown compassion or remorse yell us where Keith is buried and then gladly put him out of his misery x

So you want him gassed or alive? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

I would of had him gassed years ago but he is still alive isn't he x

I'm curious as to why gassed.

It's not a common form of execution. "

Fallen's her fav film.

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By *oyuer99Man
over a year ago

PRESTON

Having lived through his crimes he can rot for me although I do not believe it should be as comfortable an existence as it is alleged to be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gassed, hung drawn and quartered, electric chair castrated you choose x

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

derby

Its a shame he could not Identify where little john bennett was on saddleworth moor so he could be brought home to rest alongside his mum winnie, I hope bradys suffering never stops as when he goes to hell to meet hindley they can both burn there, well one can hope....

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By *vgloryholebs16TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol.

Wonder if he has had much sex in that time.....Some guys get more inside than out!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Gassed, hung drawn and quartered, electric chair castrated you choose x"

Why do you seem to only want extremely inhumane forms of execution?

Do you not think in some ways you are in danger of becoming what you are opposed to?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wonder if he has had much sex in that time.....Some guys get more inside than out!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Gassed, hung drawn and quartered, electric chair castrated you choose x

Why do you seem to only want extremely inhumane forms of execution?

Do you not think in some ways you are in danger of becoming what you are opposed to?"

She also has extreme political views regarding immigration. I don't think being moderate is an option for her with anything in life.

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials


"Its a shame he could not Identify where little john bennett was on saddleworth moor so he could be brought home to rest alongside his mum winnie, I hope bradys suffering never stops as when he goes to hell to meet hindley they can both burn there, well one can hope...."

My great aunt was a prison officer where Hindley was placed. She was as vile as we think

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

derby


"Its a shame he could not Identify where little john bennett was on saddleworth moor so he could be brought home to rest alongside his mum winnie, I hope bradys suffering never stops as when he goes to hell to meet hindley they can both burn there, well one can hope...."
keith bennett

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would inject him up with drugs.. Get him to give up the last missing victim.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Gassed, hung drawn and quartered, electric chair castrated you choose x

Why do you seem to only want extremely inhumane forms of execution?

Do you not think in some ways you are in danger of becoming what you are opposed to?

She also has extreme political views regarding immigration. I don't think being moderate is an option for her with anything in life. "

Why does she have to be moderate? She's entitled to an opinion the same as you are.

Moderate is for people incapable of thinking for themselves so toe the line of what they think is the right thing to say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Gassed, hung drawn and quartered, electric chair castrated you choose x

Why do you seem to only want extremely inhumane forms of execution?

Do you not think in some ways you are in danger of becoming what you are opposed to?

She also has extreme political views regarding immigration. I don't think being moderate is an option for her with anything in life.

Why does she have to be moderate? She's entitled to an opinion the same as you are.

Moderate is for people incapable of thinking for themselves so toe the line of what they think is the right thing to say."

Cos I reckon only dealing in extremes tends to be the sign of a volatile person, and one lacking in tolerance.

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By *lwaysraginghornyMan
over a year ago

bristol


"Gassed, hung drawn and quartered, electric chair castrated you choose x

Why do you seem to only want extremely inhumane forms of execution?

Do you not think in some ways you are in danger of becoming what you are opposed to?"

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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

Is a famous murderer any worse than a non-famous one?

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale


"Gassed, hung drawn and quartered, electric chair castrated you choose x

Why do you seem to only want extremely inhumane forms of execution?

Do you not think in some ways you are in danger of becoming what you are opposed to?

She also has extreme political views regarding immigration. I don't think being moderate is an option for her with anything in life.

Why does she have to be moderate? She's entitled to an opinion the same as you are.

Moderate is for people incapable of thinking for themselves so toe the line of what they think is the right thing to say."

Why do people equate having an opinion with having the right to be taken seriously?

You may hold an opinion, but that opinion may be ignored,criticised and even loudly mocked - just because you think it doesn't give anyone the right to be considered worthy.

Those who call for vile endings for even such as Brady are in reality little better than them, you can almost sense them getting excited over the prospect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"death sentance would be too good for him hes not human

As much as Brady is a vile offence to humanity, I am totally opposed to the death penalty.

He can rot in prison, that's fine."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is a famous murderer any worse than a non-famous one? "

Depends I guess. Multiple murderers are worse than those who kill one person, in my mind. And child killers are worse than those who killed adults. Not sure if notoriety matters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Gassed, hung drawn and quartered, electric chair castrated you choose x

Why do you seem to only want extremely inhumane forms of execution?

Do you not think in some ways you are in danger of becoming what you are opposed to?

She also has extreme political views regarding immigration. I don't think being moderate is an option for her with anything in life.

Why does she have to be moderate? She's entitled to an opinion the same as you are.

Moderate is for people incapable of thinking for themselves so toe the line of what they think is the right thing to say.

Cos I reckon only dealing in extremes tends to be the sign of a volatile person, and one lacking in tolerance. "

Generally I agreed when I was younger. But now anyone who acts in such a remorseless and barbaric manner as Brady brings out an emotion I never understood until I became responsible for the safety of a child.

I do not condon revenge or hate mobs but some crimes deserve far greater punishment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Gassed, hung drawn and quartered, electric chair castrated you choose x

Why do you seem to only want extremely inhumane forms of execution?

Do you not think in some ways you are in danger of becoming what you are opposed to?

She also has extreme political views regarding immigration. I don't think being moderate is an option for her with anything in life.

Why does she have to be moderate? She's entitled to an opinion the same as you are.

Moderate is for people incapable of thinking for themselves so toe the line of what they think is the right thing to say.

Why do people equate having an opinion with having the right to be taken seriously?

You may hold an opinion, but that opinion may be ignored,criticised and even loudly mocked - just because you think it doesn't give anyone the right to be considered worthy.

Those who call for vile endings for even such as Brady are in reality little better than them, you can almost sense them getting excited over the prospect."

That's a good point and a better response to the question than mine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Gassed, hung drawn and quartered, electric chair castrated you choose x

Why do you seem to only want extremely inhumane forms of execution?

Do you not think in some ways you are in danger of becoming what you are opposed to?

She also has extreme political views regarding immigration. I don't think being moderate is an option for her with anything in life.

Why does she have to be moderate? She's entitled to an opinion the same as you are.

Moderate is for people incapable of thinking for themselves so toe the line of what they think is the right thing to say.

Cos I reckon only dealing in extremes tends to be the sign of a volatile person, and one lacking in tolerance.

Generally I agreed when I was younger. But now anyone who acts in such a remorseless and barbaric manner as Brady brings out an emotion I never understood until I became responsible for the safety of a child.

I do not condon revenge or hate mobs but some crimes deserve far greater punishment."

Eh it's not a question of maturity or age (condescending though) but a question of values and priorities. You have let your emotions get involved and I haven't, that's all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Gassed, hung drawn and quartered, electric chair castrated you choose x

Why do you seem to only want extremely inhumane forms of execution?

Do you not think in some ways you are in danger of becoming what you are opposed to?

She also has extreme political views regarding immigration. I don't think being moderate is an option for her with anything in life.

Why does she have to be moderate? She's entitled to an opinion the same as you are.

Moderate is for people incapable of thinking for themselves so toe the line of what they think is the right thing to say.

Cos I reckon only dealing in extremes tends to be the sign of a volatile person, and one lacking in tolerance.

Generally I agreed when I was younger. But now anyone who acts in such a remorseless and barbaric manner as Brady brings out an emotion I never understood until I became responsible for the safety of a child.

I do not condon revenge or hate mobs but some crimes deserve far greater punishment."

Am I reading that right? Some crimes deserve a worse punishment than death?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"The last I read of him was that he wished to die.

I would like him to be shown compassion and for this to take place soon.

Why he has never shown compassion or remorse yell us where Keith is buried and then gladly put him out of his misery x"

So you follow his example of how to not show compassion .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is a famous murderer any worse than a non-famous one? "

A murderer is a murderer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I could make a list of all the child killers and sex offenders that they should bring back the death penalty. Does that make me as bad as them or something else. I can only dream and if that makes me a bad person then so be it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do a deal.. He can die if he shows where the last victim is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Gassed, hung drawn and quartered, electric chair castrated you choose x

Why do you seem to only want extremely inhumane forms of execution?

Do you not think in some ways you are in danger of becoming what you are opposed to?

She also has extreme political views regarding immigration. I don't think being moderate is an option for her with anything in life.

Why does she have to be moderate? She's entitled to an opinion the same as you are.

Moderate is for people incapable of thinking for themselves so toe the line of what they think is the right thing to say.

Cos I reckon only dealing in extremes tends to be the sign of a volatile person, and one lacking in tolerance.

Generally I agreed when I was younger. But now anyone who acts in such a remorseless and barbaric manner as Brady brings out an emotion I never understood until I became responsible for the safety of a child.

I do not condon revenge or hate mobs but some crimes deserve far greater punishment.

Am I reading that right? Some crimes deserve a worse punishment than death?"

No. Some crimes deserve a worse punishment than prison or institute.

Although being forced to watch Jeremy Kyle could be considered worse than death by all accounts.

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"Your thoughts please (fabbers)."
. Quite often people who committ these type of offences have very sad backgrounds to their lives and in particular their childhood .

No rational person would even contemplate committing these type of offences .

If someone is locked up they have already lost libery and destoyed their own lives .

In view of the rather tragic backgrounds of those who committ these offences, I sam not a member of the rot in hell brigdade .

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I could make a list of all the child killers and sex offenders that they should bring back the death penalty. Does that make me as bad as them or something else. I can only dream and if that makes me a bad person then so be it. "

Well pop your name on the end of the list.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I could make a list of all the child killers and sex offenders that they should bring back the death penalty. Does that make me as bad as them or something else. I can only dream and if that makes me a bad person then so be it. "

You dream about killing people? You not reckon that's a bit similar to what a murderer would fantasise about?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Your thoughts please (fabbers).. Quite often people who committ these type of offences have very sad backgrounds to their lives and in particular their childhood .

No rational person would even contemplate committing these type of offences .

If someone is locked up they have already lost libery and destoyed their own lives .

In view of the rather tragic backgrounds of those who committ these offences, I sam not a member of the rot in hell brigdade ."

I was going to touch on that point.

What happened to make Brady the way he was ?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I could make a list of all the child killers and sex offenders that they should bring back the death penalty. Does that make me as bad as them or something else. I can only dream and if that makes me a bad person then so be it. "

sex offending whilst a crime and terrible for any victim is a very broad spectrum, would you be wanting capital punishment for every 'sexual offence'?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My thoughts is that he's very deranged mentally and that he'll probably be in hospital for the rest of his life.

I'm happy that the system dealt with him in the best way for everyone"

Not quite sure how I managed to delete my own post earlier but just to re-

literate: This!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your thoughts please (fabbers).. Quite often people who committ these type of offences have very sad backgrounds to their lives and in particular their childhood .

No rational person would even contemplate committing these type of offences .

If someone is locked up they have already lost libery and destoyed their own lives .

In view of the rather tragic backgrounds of those who committ these offences, I sam not a member of the rot in hell brigdade .

I was going to touch on that point.

What happened to make Brady the way he was ?

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No father, had to be given away as his mother couldn't cope. After that, he was just a little shit to girlfriends and torturing animals. He's just bad.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Your thoughts please (fabbers).. Quite often people who committ these type of offences have very sad backgrounds to their lives and in particular their childhood .

No rational person would even contemplate committing these type of offences .

If someone is locked up they have already lost libery and destoyed their own lives .

In view of the rather tragic backgrounds of those who committ these offences, I sam not a member of the rot in hell brigdade .

I was going to touch on that point.

What happened to make Brady the way he was ?

No father, had to be given away as his mother couldn't cope. After that, he was just a little shit to girlfriends and torturing animals. He's just bad. "

Was he born bad ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I could make a list of all the child killers and sex offenders that they should bring back the death penalty. Does that make me as bad as them or something else. I can only dream and if that makes me a bad person then so be it. "

Out of interest, when you see how ISIS reportedly execute people, what's your opinion? Would that be the sort of thing you think that child killers deserve?

It seems to me that when you talk about gassing people or having them hung drawn and quartered you want their death to be as unpleasant and traumatic as possible?

Or am I mistaken?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why jump on me these monsters yes monsters are not people and therefore should not be given the time of day. Why do you think they still have the death penalty in the states for the most truly heinous crimes. Yet I am the bad person for having an opinion x

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"I could make a list of all the child killers and sex offenders that they should bring back the death penalty. Does that make me as bad as them or something else. I can only dream and if that makes me a bad person then so be it. "
. What about those who are wrongly convicted ?. Are you happy to hang them as well?.

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"Your thoughts please (fabbers).. Quite often people who committ these type of offences have very sad backgrounds to their lives and in particular their childhood .

No rational person would even contemplate committing these type of offences .

If someone is locked up they have already lost libery and destoyed their own lives .

In view of the rather tragic backgrounds of those who committ these offences, I sam not a member of the rot in hell brigdade .

I was going to touch on that point.

What happened to make Brady the way he was ?

No father, had to be given away as his mother couldn't cope. After that, he was just a little shit to girlfriends and torturing animals. He's just bad. "
. In other words he had an extremely disadvantaged childhood and no role models to give him guidance and advice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is all getting far too psycho analytical now.

He's evil and deserves to rot behind bars with no rights or liberties. No matter what his up bringing he would have been vile.

End of subject.

Lets get back to tits Tuesday

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman
over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"Your thoughts please (fabbers).. Quite often people who committ these type of offences have very sad backgrounds to their lives and in particular their childhood .

No rational person would even contemplate committing these type of offences .

If someone is locked up they have already lost libery and destoyed their own lives .

In view of the rather tragic backgrounds of those who committ these offences, I sam not a member of the rot in hell brigdade .

I was going to touch on that point.

What happened to make Brady the way he was ?

No father, had to be given away as his mother couldn't cope. After that, he was just a little shit to girlfriends and torturing animals. He's just bad.

Was he born bad ?"

There are some that would argue he was, some that would argue something made him that way. Either way he took the choice to take others lives. He made that decision.

Anyone who had lost a loved one to the hands of another would at some point agree to a lot of what others have posted on here about the death penalty. I don't know how people find it in their heart to forgive the person who took that life but there are people who do it. I know I could never forgive the person that killed my best friend. He didn't even get what he deserved sentence wise!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your thoughts please (fabbers).. Quite often people who committ these type of offences have very sad backgrounds to their lives and in particular their childhood .

No rational person would even contemplate committing these type of offences .

If someone is locked up they have already lost libery and destoyed their own lives .

In view of the rather tragic backgrounds of those who committ these offences, I sam not a member of the rot in hell brigdade .

I was going to touch on that point.

What happened to make Brady the way he was ?

No father, had to be given away as his mother couldn't cope. After that, he was just a little shit to girlfriends and torturing animals. He's just bad.

Was he born bad ?"

I'm not sure, but he definitely became bad. His life wasn't worse than a lot of people during that period in history. It's not an excuse for murder and assault.

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over a year ago


"Your thoughts please (fabbers).. Quite often people who committ these type of offences have very sad backgrounds to their lives and in particular their childhood .

No rational person would even contemplate committing these type of offences .

If someone is locked up they have already lost libery and destoyed their own lives .

In view of the rather tragic backgrounds of those who committ these offences, I sam not a member of the rot in hell brigdade .

I was going to touch on that point.

What happened to make Brady the way he was ?

No father, had to be given away as his mother couldn't cope. After that, he was just a little shit to girlfriends and torturing animals. He's just bad. . In other words he had an extremely disadvantaged childhood and no role models to give him guidance and advice "

I didn't need to be told to not murder.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The last I read of him was that he wished to die.

I would like him to be shown compassion and for this to take place soon.

Why he has never shown compassion or remorse yell us where Keith is buried and then gladly put him out of his misery x

So you want him gassed or alive? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

I would of had him gassed years ago but he is still alive isn't he x

I'm curious as to why gassed.

It's not a common form of execution. "

Quick, truly painless while also avoiding the "high" inert gasses such as helium or nitrogen cost pennies and dont require medical dosageing etc

Puting a person in a chamber and purging it quickly to a fully inert atmosphere would be a very safe, effective and humane execution format.

So much so its the basis of the "exit bag" comercial suicide aystem.

Your body doesnt react like its suffocating in an inert atmosphere youll take a few breaths pass out then die in your sleep in a few miniutes

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Why jump on me these monsters yes monsters are not people and therefore should not be given the time of day. Why do you think they still have the death penalty in the states for the most truly heinous crimes. Yet I am the bad person for having an opinion x"

Don't try inflicting guilt on people who don't agree with you.

Like it or not murderers are human.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fuck him

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Do a deal.. He can die if he shows where the last victim is"

I thought he had gone back to the moors with the detectives but time had changed the contours of the land and he couldn't recognise landmarks.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"This is all getting far too psycho analytical now.

He's evil and deserves to rot behind bars with no rights or liberties. No matter what his up bringing he would have been vile.

End of subject.

Lets get back to tits Tuesday "

I agree to an extent. However I would prefer that he didn't rot or suffer any more than the loss of his liberty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The death penalty does not prevent crime . There is a lot to learn from these killers as to why and how they became killers , as we already know many factors go into the making of a killer , and that's what we need to learn . Also not enough is done with the victims either they also need help and support which is sadly lacking

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Fuck him"

Rather you than me

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"This is all getting far too psycho analytical now.

He's evil and deserves to rot behind bars with no rights or liberties. No matter what his up bringing he would have been vile.

End of subject.

Lets get back to tits Tuesday "
. I thought that it was generally accepted that your parents had an influence on how their children behave . Are you saying that this was not the case ?. How would you feel or behave if you had no role models to follow?.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I could make a list of all the child killers and sex offenders that they should bring back the death penalty. Does that make me as bad as them or something else. I can only dream and if that makes me a bad person then so be it. . What about those who are wrongly convicted ?. Are you happy to hang them as well?. "

in the world of some of those who advocate the death penalty there are no innocent people in jail, no wrongful convictions..

with such a perfect justice system it does make me wonder why we still have a court of appeal..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fuck him

Rather you than me"

You missed a full stop

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why jump on me these monsters yes monsters are not people and therefore should not be given the time of day. Why do you think they still have the death penalty in the states for the most truly heinous crimes. Yet I am the bad person for having an opinion x"

I just think it's weird you dream about killing people. It's okay to believe the death penalty is the best option, but you want to torture people with bizarre methods like castration. It goes beyond the capital punishment argument.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Why jump on me these monsters yes monsters are not people and therefore should not be given the time of day. Why do you think they still have the death penalty in the states for the most truly heinous crimes. Yet I am the bad person for having an opinion x"

you do know that in that country the death penalty as a deterrent has patently failed..?

although i don't think even they see it in that context as it looks to be more about revenge..

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman
over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"Why jump on me these monsters yes monsters are not people and therefore should not be given the time of day. Why do you think they still have the death penalty in the states for the most truly heinous crimes. Yet I am the bad person for having an opinion x

Don't try inflicting guilt on people who don't agree with you.

Like it or not murderers are human."

Isn't this a forum tho where she is entitled to her opinion whether you like it or not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like i said before fuck him

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Why jump on me these monsters yes monsters are not people and therefore should not be given the time of day. Why do you think they still have the death penalty in the states for the most truly heinous crimes. Yet I am the bad person for having an opinion x"

Gary Ridgeway, (Green River Killer), Denis Radar (BTK), Susan Smith...America doesn't always kill its monsters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just saw this post and can't be bothered looking who said what! If someone did what he did to my kids just watch Law Abiding Citizen and that's what I would do!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why jump on me these monsters yes monsters are not people and therefore should not be given the time of day. Why do you think they still have the death penalty in the states for the most truly heinous crimes. Yet I am the bad person for having an opinion x

you do know that in that country the death penalty as a deterrent has patently failed..?

although i don't think even they see it in that context as it looks to be more about revenge.. "

Exactly, the US justice system is terrifying and clearly offers no real deterrent.

But as a society we are drawn to it and dismissive of far more liberal but effective justice systems in Scandanavia

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just saw this post and can't be bothered looking who said what! If someone did what he did to my kids just watch Law Abiding Citizen and that's what I would do!"

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Just saw this post and can't be bothered looking who said what! If someone did what he did to my kids just watch Law Abiding Citizen and that's what I would do!"

make a shit film..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is all getting far too psycho analytical now.

He's evil and deserves to rot behind bars with no rights or liberties. No matter what his up bringing he would have been vile.

End of subject.

Lets get back to tits Tuesday . I thought that it was generally accepted that your parents had an influence on how their children behave . Are you saying that this was not the case ?. How would you feel or behave if you had no role models to follow?. "

You're assuming I had role models and didn't lose any parents at a young age. However, I went on to become chartered in my profession without the need to murder anyone.

One of my school friends with a full set of parents, one a police seargent, went on to become a drug dealer currently in prison for a horrendous crime.

The only difference between the two of us as to why we took seperate paths? I have a conscience.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why jump on me these monsters yes monsters are not people and therefore should not be given the time of day. Why do you think they still have the death penalty in the states for the most truly heinous crimes. Yet I am the bad person for having an opinion x

Don't try inflicting guilt on people who don't agree with you.

Like it or not murderers are human.

Isn't this a forum tho where she is entitled to her opinion whether you like it or not? "

Of course she is, but if you voice an opinion it's reasonable that people question it. That's not jumping on her.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why jump on me these monsters yes monsters are not people and therefore should not be given the time of day. Why do you think they still have the death penalty in the states for the most truly heinous crimes. Yet I am the bad person for having an opinion x

Don't try inflicting guilt on people who don't agree with you.

Like it or not murderers are human.

Isn't this a forum tho where she is entitled to her opinion whether you like it or not? "

Surely her opinion can be responded to and also dismissed as nonsense.

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman
over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"Why jump on me these monsters yes monsters are not people and therefore should not be given the time of day. Why do you think they still have the death penalty in the states for the most truly heinous crimes. Yet I am the bad person for having an opinion x

Don't try inflicting guilt on people who don't agree with you.

Like it or not murderers are human.

Isn't this a forum tho where she is entitled to her opinion whether you like it or not?

Of course she is, but if you voice an opinion it's reasonable that people question it. That's not jumping on her.

"

But others have expressed similar views yet they have not been picked out. Just cause her wording maybe a but more shall we day passionate to the topic. There could be good reason to this for all we know.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale


"Why jump on me these monsters yes monsters are not people and therefore should not be given the time of day. Why do you think they still have the death penalty in the states for the most truly heinous crimes. Yet I am the bad person for having an opinion x

Don't try inflicting guilt on people who don't agree with you.

Like it or not murderers are human.

Isn't this a forum tho where she is entitled to her opinion whether you like it or not? "

...and we are back to the idea that an opinion ought to be automatically worthy of consideration.

She is entitled to her opinion - she isn't entitled to have that opinion go unchallenged,ridiculed or generally taken the piss out of.

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman
over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"Why jump on me these monsters yes monsters are not people and therefore should not be given the time of day. Why do you think they still have the death penalty in the states for the most truly heinous crimes. Yet I am the bad person for having an opinion x

Don't try inflicting guilt on people who don't agree with you.

Like it or not murderers are human.

Isn't this a forum tho where she is entitled to her opinion whether you like it or not?

Surely her opinion can be responded to and also dismissed as nonsense. "

It's only nonsense to you tho. There are others who have expressed similar views yet you've not singled them out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why jump on me these monsters yes monsters are not people and therefore should not be given the time of day. Why do you think they still have the death penalty in the states for the most truly heinous crimes. Yet I am the bad person for having an opinion x

Don't try inflicting guilt on people who don't agree with you.

Like it or not murderers are human.

Isn't this a forum tho where she is entitled to her opinion whether you like it or not?

Of course she is, but if you voice an opinion it's reasonable that people question it. That's not jumping on her.

But others have expressed similar views yet they have not been picked out. Just cause her wording maybe a but more shall we day passionate to the topic. There could be good reason to this for all we know. "

How come we're obligated to reply to everyone to validate a reply to one person? That'd make joining in here laborious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Like i said before fuck him"

Yep, no more to add from me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why jump on me these monsters yes monsters are not people and therefore should not be given the time of day. Why do you think they still have the death penalty in the states for the most truly heinous crimes. Yet I am the bad person for having an opinion x

Don't try inflicting guilt on people who don't agree with you.

Like it or not murderers are human.

Isn't this a forum tho where she is entitled to her opinion whether you like it or not?

Surely her opinion can be responded to and also dismissed as nonsense.

It's only nonsense to you tho. There are others who have expressed similar views yet you've not singled them out"

Not only me, I've addressed other people. How come you're not defending them?

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman
over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales


"Why jump on me these monsters yes monsters are not people and therefore should not be given the time of day. Why do you think they still have the death penalty in the states for the most truly heinous crimes. Yet I am the bad person for having an opinion x

Don't try inflicting guilt on people who don't agree with you.

Like it or not murderers are human.

Isn't this a forum tho where she is entitled to her opinion whether you like it or not?

Of course she is, but if you voice an opinion it's reasonable that people question it. That's not jumping on her.

But others have expressed similar views yet they have not been picked out. Just cause her wording maybe a but more shall we day passionate to the topic. There could be good reason to this for all we know.

How come we're obligated to reply to everyone to validate a reply to one person? That'd make joining in here laborious "

So it us just pick on what she said then cause you don't like what she said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why jump on me these monsters yes monsters are not people and therefore should not be given the time of day. Why do you think they still have the death penalty in the states for the most truly heinous crimes. Yet I am the bad person for having an opinion x

Don't try inflicting guilt on people who don't agree with you.

Like it or not murderers are human.

Isn't this a forum tho where she is entitled to her opinion whether you like it or not?

Of course she is, but if you voice an opinion it's reasonable that people question it. That's not jumping on her.

But others have expressed similar views yet they have not been picked out. Just cause her wording maybe a but more shall we day passionate to the topic. There could be good reason to this for all we know. "

You answered your own question as to why people including me may have responded to her posts and not others

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why jump on me these monsters yes monsters are not people and therefore should not be given the time of day. Why do you think they still have the death penalty in the states for the most truly heinous crimes. Yet I am the bad person for having an opinion x

Don't try inflicting guilt on people who don't agree with you.

Like it or not murderers are human.

Isn't this a forum tho where she is entitled to her opinion whether you like it or not?

Of course she is, but if you voice an opinion it's reasonable that people question it. That's not jumping on her.

But others have expressed similar views yet they have not been picked out. Just cause her wording maybe a but more shall we day passionate to the topic. There could be good reason to this for all we know.

How come we're obligated to reply to everyone to validate a reply to one person? That'd make joining in here laborious

So it us just pick on what she said then cause you don't like what she said"

No one is picking on her. Questioning someone is not picking on them

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Fuck him

Rather you than me

You missed a full stop "

It wasn't a sentence and therefore didn't require one.

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By *piritsonfabCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

She's entitled yes. Doesn't mean it's worthy of respect.

Life imprisonment is all a civilises society should do to someone not fit to live in that society.

To want revenge is natural if your loved one has suffered, which is why those decisions are taken by a court whose emotions aren't in charge.

He'll die in prison and cannot hurt anyone else. That's the most important thing.

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"This is all getting far too psycho analytical now.

He's evil and deserves to rot behind bars with no rights or liberties. No matter what his up bringing he would have been vile.

End of subject.

Lets get back to tits Tuesday . I thought that it was generally accepted that your parents had an influence on how their children behave . Are you saying that this was not the case ?. How would you feel or behave if you had no role models to follow?.

You're assuming I had role models and didn't lose any parents at a young age. However, I went on to become chartered in my profession without the need to murder anyone.

One of my school friends with a full set of parents, one a police seargent, went on to become a drug dealer currently in prison for a horrendous crime.

The only difference between the two of us as to why we took seperate paths? I have a conscience."
. Who instilled the values into you in order to give you a conscience ?.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be fair people seemed to pick up on "gassed" with a level of zealous delight you could almost see thier fingers itching to being up the nazis....

But like i said currently gas is probbaly the best and most humane option that doesnt cause problems with the "high" of drugs.

Although it would be interesting if it would result in the banning of sale of nitrogen to a country that used it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is all getting far too psycho analytical now.

He's evil and deserves to rot behind bars with no rights or liberties. No matter what his up bringing he would have been vile.

End of subject.

Lets get back to tits Tuesday . I thought that it was generally accepted that your parents had an influence on how their children behave . Are you saying that this was not the case ?. How would you feel or behave if you had no role models to follow?.

You're assuming I had role models and didn't lose any parents at a young age. However, I went on to become chartered in my profession without the need to murder anyone.

One of my school friends with a full set of parents, one a police seargent, went on to become a drug dealer currently in prison for a horrendous crime.

The only difference between the two of us as to why we took seperate paths? I have a conscience.. Who instilled the values into you in order to give you a conscience ?."

Me!

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

He should get the death penalty but whoever throws that switch is also a murderer; best to leave death in God's hands

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is all getting far too psycho analytical now.

He's evil and deserves to rot behind bars with no rights or liberties. No matter what his up bringing he would have been vile.

End of subject.

Lets get back to tits Tuesday . I thought that it was generally accepted that your parents had an influence on how their children behave . Are you saying that this was not the case ?. How would you feel or behave if you had no role models to follow?.

You're assuming I had role models and didn't lose any parents at a young age. However, I went on to become chartered in my profession without the need to murder anyone.

One of my school friends with a full set of parents, one a police seargent, went on to become a drug dealer currently in prison for a horrendous crime.

The only difference between the two of us as to why we took seperate paths? I have a conscience.. Who instilled the values into you in order to give you a conscience ?."

Genetics seemingly from most studies.

Lack of a conciense/empathy is usualy a severe mental issue thats prevelent from birth/a physical aspect not a developmental mental (as in lersonaloty trait).

But it blurs the line between are they good or bad

They may know thier murderous actions are perceived as wrong but because they care so little to them its just the same as the married guy being offered the no strings BJ buly the incredibly fit girl he met at the bar and deciding to go for it.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Why jump on me these monsters yes monsters are not people and therefore should not be given the time of day. Why do you think they still have the death penalty in the states for the most truly heinous crimes. Yet I am the bad person for having an opinion x

Don't try inflicting guilt on people who don't agree with you.

Like it or not murderers are human.

Isn't this a forum tho where she is entitled to her opinion whether you like it or not? "

Yes this is a forum

Yes she's entitled to her opinion

And at no point did I say this isnt a forum

Nor did I say she couldn't have an opinion

Nor did say whether I liked what she said or not.

Nothing you say bears any relation to anything I said.

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By *erdita Von TeaseWoman
over a year ago

nottingham

Just started watching it now. What he did to those kiddies is heartbreaking. Generally I'm a peaceful person but if someone did that to my little un I have to be honest my mothers instinct would probably over ride any morals I had and I'd want to tear him apart with my bare hands

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fuck him

Rather you than me

You missed a full stop

It wasn't a sentence and therefore didn't require one."

Shit didn't think of that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why jump on me these monsters yes monsters are not people and therefore should not be given the time of day. Why do you think they still have the death penalty in the states for the most truly heinous crimes. Yet I am the bad person for having an opinion x

Don't try inflicting guilt on people who don't agree with you.

Like it or not murderers are human.

Isn't this a forum tho where she is entitled to her opinion whether you like it or not?

Of course she is, but if you voice an opinion it's reasonable that people question it. That's not jumping on her.

But others have expressed similar views yet they have not been picked out. Just cause her wording maybe a but more shall we day passionate to the topic. There could be good reason to this for all we know.

How come we're obligated to reply to everyone to validate a reply to one person? That'd make joining in here laborious

So it us just pick on what she said then cause you don't like what she said"

I don't understand, sorry

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Fuck him

Rather you than me

You missed a full stop

It wasn't a sentence and therefore didn't require one.

Shit didn't think of that"

Neither did I.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fuck him

Rather you than me

You missed a full stop

It wasn't a sentence and therefore didn't require one.

Shit didn't think of that

Neither did I."

.

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Why does every thread turn into a bitch-slapping contest these days?

Some people have got some real scary issues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does every thread turn into a bitch-slapping contest these days?

Some people have got some real scary issues."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does every thread turn into a bitch-slapping contest these days?

Some people have got some real scary issues."

Wait, is this post ironic or just hypocritical?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does every thread turn into a bitch-slapping contest these days?

Some people have got some real scary issues.

Wait, is this post ironic or just hypocritical? "

They only post cranky observations. A bit like Statler and Waldorf from the Muppets.

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton


"Why does every thread turn into a bitch-slapping contest these days?

Some people have got some real scary issues.

Wait, is this post ironic or just hypocritical? "

That will be number 3 of 5+

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton


"Why does every thread turn into a bitch-slapping contest these days?

Some people have got some real scary issues.

Wait, is this post ironic or just hypocritical?

They only post cranky observations. A bit like Statler and Waldorf from the Muppets. "

Over to you no.1

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does every thread turn into a bitch-slapping contest these days?

Some people have got some real scary issues.

Wait, is this post ironic or just hypocritical?

They only post cranky observations. A bit like Statler and Waldorf from the Muppets.

Over to you no.1"

I'm sorry, I don't know what you want.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To be fair people seemed to pick up on "gassed" with a level of zealous delight you could almost see thier fingers itching to being up the nazis....

But like i said currently gas is probbaly the best and most humane option that doesnt cause problems with the "high" of drugs.

Although it would be interesting if it would result in the banning of sale of nitrogen to a country that used it.

"

I'll be honest, I agree with all what you say about nitrogen. But the post in question very clearly said "stick him in a gas chamber" and that terminology does create a very specific mental image.

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By *ervent_fervourMan
over a year ago

Halifax


"Gassed, hung drawn and quartered, electric chair castrated you choose x

Why do you seem to only want extremely inhumane forms of execution?

Do you not think in some ways you are in danger of becoming what you are opposed to?

She also has extreme political views regarding immigration. I don't think being moderate is an option for her with anything in life.

Why does she have to be moderate? She's entitled to an opinion the same as you are.

Moderate is for people incapable of thinking for themselves so toe the line of what they think is the right thing to say."

Hello! Moderate here(I think).

I only say what I believe to be 'right', and feel strongly about, otherwise i wouldn't pop up on some of these threads.

I am capable of thinking for myself(albeit after disseminating what I've read/seen/experienced, much as yourself, and everyone else I imagine).

I also think it takes more 'courage'(which I'm assuming that you may (dunno?)be hinting that 'moderates' don't have)to say something in a dialogue with others when quite often on here more people(who post to these threads) seem to have the opposite view.

Anyway..q for you: why do you think this of moderates(might be best to start another thread if you want? I'll contribute!)?

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"To be fair people seemed to pick up on "gassed" with a level of zealous delight you could almost see thier fingers itching to being up the nazis....

But like i said currently gas is probbaly the best and most humane option that doesnt cause problems with the "high" of drugs.

Although it would be interesting if it would result in the banning of sale of nitrogen to a country that used it.

I'll be honest, I agree with all what you say about nitrogen. But the post in question very clearly said "stick him in a gas chamber" and that terminology does create a very specific mental image.

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The US has ruled some deaths by gas chamber as cruel and inhumane. Some prisoners are heard banging and moaning in pain.

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"To be fair people seemed to pick up on "gassed" with a level of zealous delight you could almost see thier fingers itching to being up the nazis....

But like i said currently gas is probbaly the best and most humane option that doesnt cause problems with the "high" of drugs.

Although it would be interesting if it would result in the banning of sale of nitrogen to a country that used it.

I'll be honest, I agree with all what you say about nitrogen. But the post in question very clearly said "stick him in a gas chamber" and that terminology does create a very specific mental image.

The US has ruled some deaths by gas chamber as cruel and inhumane. Some prisoners are heard banging and moaning in pain. "

And? fuck em

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over a year ago

I think I have opened a can of "whoop ass" lol.

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over a year ago


"To be fair people seemed to pick up on "gassed" with a level of zealous delight you could almost see thier fingers itching to being up the nazis....

But like i said currently gas is probbaly the best and most humane option that doesnt cause problems with the "high" of drugs.

Although it would be interesting if it would result in the banning of sale of nitrogen to a country that used it.

I'll be honest, I agree with all what you say about nitrogen. But the post in question very clearly said "stick him in a gas chamber" and that terminology does create a very specific mental image.

The US has ruled some deaths by gas chamber as cruel and inhumane. Some prisoners are heard banging and moaning in pain.

And? fuck em"

Why can't I respond to another post... ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a load of fucking shite! The guys a child murdering weirdo who is probably somewhere on this thread loving every convo why don't we just end this here because it's just giving him air time he totally doesn't deserve! So let's all just STOP

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over a year ago


"What a load of fucking shite! The guys a child murdering weirdo who is probably somewhere on this thread loving every convo why don't we just end this here because it's just giving him air time he totally doesn't deserve! So let's all just STOP "

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over a year ago

He is in the correct place for him to live out his life for the crimes he committed. We are not able to sentence any man to death, whoever passes that sentence should stand next to him and receive the same punishment, as they are committing the same crime.

In respect to the mental state of Mr Brady, I shall say there are many things that we are yet to understand about the mind and it's methods of operation. We all think differently, so to speak.

In the efforts of understanding psychopathy, I shall quote Hervey Cleckley;

The [psychopath] is unfamiliar with the primary facts or data of what might be called personal values and is altogether incapable of understanding such matters. It is impossible for him to take even a slight interest in the tragedy or joy or the striving of humanity as presented in serious literature or art. He is also indifferent to all these matters in life itself. Beauty and ugliness, except in a very superficial sense, goodness, evil, love, horror, and humour have no actual meaning, no power to move him. He is, furthermore, lacking in the ability to see that others are moved. It is as though he were colour-blind, despite his sharp intelligence, to this aspect of human existence. It cannot be explained to him because there is nothing in his orbit of awareness that can bridge the gap with comparison. He can repeat the words and say glibly that he understands, and there is no way for him to realize that he does not understand (Cleckley, 1941, p. 90 quoted in Hare, 1993, pp. 27-28).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just started watching it now. What he did to those kiddies is heartbreaking. Generally I'm a peaceful person but if someone did that to my little un I have to be honest my mothers instinct would probably over ride any morals I had and I'd want to tear him apart with my bare hands "
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Your not alone, I think we all possibly could.

That's why the system is there to prevent us from destroying ourselves from tragedy.... If tearing them apart with our bare hands actually had any positive results, hell I'd probably say give it a go but all the studies just say it's like drugs, it gives a very short term relief from a giant pain and I'm the end only causes further pain.

No I'm quite happy with how the law has evolved for the punishment of killers and for the mental health of the victims relatives.

It's not perfect but it's better than the alternative

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over a year ago


"What a load of fucking shite! The guys a child murdering weirdo who is probably somewhere on this thread loving every convo why don't we just end this here because it's just giving him air time he totally doesn't deserve! So let's all just STOP "

Guys, no more talking now. Jacko2000 has told us to stop.

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By *ervent_fervourMan
over a year ago

Halifax

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over a year ago


"What a load of fucking shite! The guys a child murdering weirdo who is probably somewhere on this thread loving every convo why don't we just end this here because it's just giving him air time he totally doesn't deserve! So let's all just STOP

Guys, no more talking now. Jacko2000 has told us to stop. "

Just to avert the topic for a moment.... Lovely bum MissPeters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

FFS just forget the cunt and feel sorry for the OP that started it all! As for all you do gooders why don't you move your family in with him and have a big weirdo party!

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over a year ago

Jacko2000, no more talking!

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Whenever threads like this pop up there are always the hang them/flog them epithets expressed, and why not? some of the acts committed by paedos and serial sex offenders are inhuman. Those of us who have had the misfortune to deal with these creatures have had to conceal our true feelings while helping them claim benefits etc.

But ateotd, we are stuck with a legal system that give human rights to even the most horrible monsters and that's that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's end the convo now he is not worth it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This shouldnt even be a debate the guys a cunt and should die a horrible painfull death

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By *ervent_fervourMan
over a year ago

Halifax


"This is all getting far too psycho analytical now.

He's evil and deserves to rot behind bars with no rights or liberties. No matter what his up bringing he would have been vile.

End of subject.

Lets get back to tits Tuesday . I thought that it was generally accepted that your parents had an influence on how their children behave . Are you saying that this was not the case ?. How would you feel or behave if you had no role models to follow?.

You're assuming I had role models and didn't lose any parents at a young age. However, I went on to become chartered in my profession without the need to murder anyone.

One of my school friends with a full set of parents, one a police seargent, went on to become a drug dealer currently in prison for a horrendous crime.

The only difference between the two of us as to why we took seperate paths? I have a conscience.. Who instilled the values into you in order to give you a conscience ?.

Genetics seemingly from most studies.

Lack of a conciense/empathy is usualy a severe mental issue thats prevelent from birth/a physical aspect not a developmental mental (as in lersonaloty trait).

But it blurs the line between are they good or bad

They may know thier murderous actions are perceived as wrong but because they care so little to them its just the same as the married guy being offered the no strings BJ buly the incredibly fit girl he met at the bar and deciding to go for it.

"

How can your genetic make up give you a conscience(based on the wording of your sentence)? I've never heard of that!

Surely conscience is developed and refined over your early years(especially)through nurture, experience, and your own take on things?

I admit it sounds plausible though that some people may struggle because of a lack of empathy and become sociopaths(and at least partially attributed to some kind of genetic 'defect', or omission).

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"What a load of fucking shite! The guys a child murdering weirdo who is probably somewhere on this thread loving every convo why don't we just end this here because it's just giving him air time he totally doesn't deserve! So let's all just STOP "
. It night be because some people understand that not everyone has a perfect childhood and how you behave is influenced by your parents and circumstances .

As no rational person would behave in the manner in which he behaved , for this reason alone his behaviour warrants a deeper understanding .

Describing someone as a weirdo hardly helps matters .

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over a year ago


"What a load of fucking shite! The guys a child murdering weirdo who is probably somewhere on this thread loving every convo why don't we just end this here because it's just giving him air time he totally doesn't deserve! So let's all just STOP . It night be because some people understand that not everyone has a perfect childhood and how you behave is influenced by your parents and circumstances .

As no rational person would behave in the manner in which he behaved , for this reason alone his behaviour warrants a deeper understanding .

Describing someone as a weirdo hardly helps matters . "

What!! He killed kids that very weird to me

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"This shouldnt even be a debate the guys a cunt and should die a horrible painfull death "

What purpose would his death being horrible and painful actually serve?

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over a year ago


"This shouldnt even be a debate the guys a cunt and should die a horrible painfull death

What purpose would his death being horrible and painful actually serve?"

Shouldnt all child killers get a painful death?

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over a year ago


"This shouldnt even be a debate the guys a cunt and should die a horrible painfull death

What purpose would his death being horrible and painful actually serve?

Shouldnt all child killers get a painful death?"

No, why would you think that they should?

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"This shouldnt even be a debate the guys a cunt and should die a horrible painfull death

What purpose would his death being horrible and painful actually serve?

Shouldnt all child killers get a painful death?"
You would need to explain why he behaved in the manner that he did .

It is hardly a desirable trait to wish someone a horrible painfull death .

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over a year ago


"This shouldnt even be a debate the guys a cunt and should die a horrible painfull death

What purpose would his death being horrible and painful actually serve?

Shouldnt all child killers get a painful death?"

Well thats gonna lead to some awkward conversations with RAF pilots and drone operators.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is all getting far too psycho analytical now.

He's evil and deserves to rot behind bars with no rights or liberties. No matter what his up bringing he would have been vile.

End of subject.

Lets get back to tits Tuesday . I thought that it was generally accepted that your parents had an influence on how their children behave . Are you saying that this was not the case ?. How would you feel or behave if you had no role models to follow?.

You're assuming I had role models and didn't lose any parents at a young age. However, I went on to become chartered in my profession without the need to murder anyone.

One of my school friends with a full set of parents, one a police seargent, went on to become a drug dealer currently in prison for a horrendous crime.

The only difference between the two of us as to why we took seperate paths? I have a conscience.. Who instilled the values into you in order to give you a conscience ?.

Genetics seemingly from most studies.

Lack of a conciense/empathy is usualy a severe mental issue thats prevelent from birth/a physical aspect not a developmental mental (as in lersonaloty trait).

But it blurs the line between are they good or bad

They may know thier murderous actions are perceived as wrong but because they care so little to them its just the same as the married guy being offered the no strings BJ buly the incredibly fit girl he met at the bar and deciding to go for it.

How can your genetic make up give you a conscience(based on the wording of your sentence)? I've never heard of that!

Surely conscience is developed and refined over your early years(especially)through nurture, experience, and your own take on things?

I admit it sounds plausible though that some people may struggle because of a lack of empathy and become sociopaths(and at least partially attributed to some kind of genetic 'defect', or omission)."

Its part of gene centered evolution.

Dawkins goes into altruism as a genetic expression in tge selfish gene book.

I will admit thought I've only a passing interest in it and havnt looked in depth.

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over a year ago


"This shouldnt even be a debate the guys a cunt and should die a horrible painfull death

What purpose would his death being horrible and painful actually serve?

Shouldnt all child killers get a painful death?

No, why would you think that they should?"

Really? Erm? Because they kill children is that not enough?

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over a year ago


"This shouldnt even be a debate the guys a cunt and should die a horrible painfull death

What purpose would his death being horrible and painful actually serve?

Shouldnt all child killers get a painful death?

Well thats gonna lead to some awkward conversations with RAF pilots and drone operators.

"

Not the same at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This shouldnt even be a debate the guys a cunt and should die a horrible painfull death

What purpose would his death being horrible and painful actually serve?

Shouldnt all child killers get a painful death?

No, why would you think that they should?

Really? Erm? Because they kill children is that not enough?

"

So the crew of the enola gay?

What about them?

Death by torture?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This shouldnt even be a debate the guys a cunt and should die a horrible painfull death

What purpose would his death being horrible and painful actually serve?

Shouldnt all child killers get a painful death?

Well thats gonna lead to some awkward conversations with RAF pilots and drone operators.

Not the same at all"

Im your own words

"Really? Erm? Because they kill children is that not enough?"

Or is it not enough in this case?

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over a year ago


"This shouldnt even be a debate the guys a cunt and should die a horrible painfull death

What purpose would his death being horrible and painful actually serve?

Shouldnt all child killers get a painful death?

No, why would you think that they should?

Really? Erm? Because they kill children is that not enough?

"

I don;t believe any crime deserves the 'horrible painful' death you refer to.

Out of interest, hypothetically speaking where would you drawer the line, what crimes deserve a humane death and what ones should be a bit crueler?

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By *akedninjaMan
over a year ago

edinburgh

Is he the fella from the Brady bunch?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This shouldnt even be a debate the guys a cunt and should die a horrible painfull death

What purpose would his death being horrible and painful actually serve?

Shouldnt all child killers get a painful death?

Well thats gonna lead to some awkward conversations with RAF pilots and drone operators.

Not the same at all"

If it was your kid, I suspect you'd think it was exactly the same

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This shouldnt even be a debate the guys a cunt and should die a horrible painfull death

What purpose would his death being horrible and painful actually serve?

Shouldnt all child killers get a painful death?

No, why would you think that they should?

Really? Erm? Because they kill children is that not enough?

So the crew of the enola gay?

What about them?

Death by torture?"

Dont think they calculated killed kids then burried them not no where near the same

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By *ervent_fervourMan
over a year ago

Halifax


"This is all getting far too psycho analytical now.

He's evil and deserves to rot behind bars with no rights or liberties. No matter what his up bringing he would have been vile.

End of subject.

Lets get back to tits Tuesday . I thought that it was generally accepted that your parents had an influence on how their children behave . Are you saying that this was not the case ?. How would you feel or behave if you had no role models to follow?.

You're assuming I had role models and didn't lose any parents at a young age. However, I went on to become chartered in my profession without the need to murder anyone.

One of my school friends with a full set of parents, one a police seargent, went on to become a drug dealer currently in prison for a horrendous crime.

The only difference between the two of us as to why we took seperate paths? I have a conscience.. Who instilled the values into you in order to give you a conscience ?.

Genetics seemingly from most studies.

Lack of a conciense/empathy is usualy a severe mental issue thats prevelent from birth/a physical aspect not a developmental mental (as in lersonaloty trait).

But it blurs the line between are they good or bad

They may know thier murderous actions are perceived as wrong but because they care so little to them its just the same as the married guy being offered the no strings BJ buly the incredibly fit girl he met at the bar and deciding to go for it.

How can your genetic make up give you a conscience(based on the wording of your sentence)? I've never heard of that!

Surely conscience is developed and refined over your early years(especially)through nurture, experience, and your own take on things?

I admit it sounds plausible though that some people may struggle because of a lack of empathy and become sociopaths(and at least partially attributed to some kind of genetic 'defect', or omission).

Its part of gene centered evolution.

Dawkins goes into altruism as a genetic expression in tge selfish gene book.

I will admit thought I've only a passing interest in it and havnt looked in depth.

"

Okay, ta. Never heard of altruism as being genetically ordered either.!SAying that if it's Dawkins I'll have a look. Interesting fella who makes sense(even if his self regard made me want to chuck the God Delusion at the wall after about ten pages).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This shouldnt even be a debate the guys a cunt and should die a horrible painfull death

What purpose would his death being horrible and painful actually serve?

Shouldnt all child killers get a painful death?

No, why would you think that they should?

Really? Erm? Because they kill children is that not enough?

So the crew of the enola gay?

What about them?

Death by torture?

Dont think they calculated killed kids then burried them not no where near the same"

No they cold hearted and through meticulous calculation and effort wiped out over a hundred thousand men women and children in a most brutal fashion.

They didnt even leave bodies to bury for many

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is all getting far too psycho analytical now.

He's evil and deserves to rot behind bars with no rights or liberties. No matter what his up bringing he would have been vile.

End of subject.

Lets get back to tits Tuesday . I thought that it was generally accepted that your parents had an influence on how their children behave . Are you saying that this was not the case ?. How would you feel or behave if you had no role models to follow?.

You're assuming I had role models and didn't lose any parents at a young age. However, I went on to become chartered in my profession without the need to murder anyone.

One of my school friends with a full set of parents, one a police seargent, went on to become a drug dealer currently in prison for a horrendous crime.

The only difference between the two of us as to why we took seperate paths? I have a conscience.. Who instilled the values into you in order to give you a conscience ?.

Genetics seemingly from most studies.

Lack of a conciense/empathy is usualy a severe mental issue thats prevelent from birth/a physical aspect not a developmental mental (as in lersonaloty trait).

But it blurs the line between are they good or bad

They may know thier murderous actions are perceived as wrong but because they care so little to them its just the same as the married guy being offered the no strings BJ buly the incredibly fit girl he met at the bar and deciding to go for it.

How can your genetic make up give you a conscience(based on the wording of your sentence)? I've never heard of that!

Surely conscience is developed and refined over your early years(especially)through nurture, experience, and your own take on things?

I admit it sounds plausible though that some people may struggle because of a lack of empathy and become sociopaths(and at least partially attributed to some kind of genetic 'defect', or omission).

Its part of gene centered evolution.

Dawkins goes into altruism as a genetic expression in tge selfish gene book.

I will admit thought I've only a passing interest in it and havnt looked in depth.

Okay, ta. Never heard of altruism as being genetically ordered either.!SAying that if it's Dawkins I'll have a look. Interesting fella who makes sense(even if his self regard made me want to chuck the God Delusion at the wall after about ten pages)."

He's very good when he sticks to biology cant fault him in his feild.

But when he starts on the god rants its s bit cringe worthy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This shouldnt even be a debate the guys a cunt and should die a horrible painfull death

What purpose would his death being horrible and painful actually serve?

Shouldnt all child killers get a painful death?

No, why would you think that they should?

Really? Erm? Because they kill children is that not enough?

So the crew of the enola gay?

What about them?

Death by torture?

Dont think they calculated killed kids then burried them not no where near the same

No they cold hearted and through meticulous calculation and effort wiped out over a hundred thousand men women and children in a most brutal fashion.

They didnt even leave bodies to bury for many"

War sir its a horrible thing,but if it wasnt for people like that me and you would not be having this conversation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This shouldnt even be a debate the guys a cunt and should die a horrible painfull death

What purpose would his death being horrible and painful actually serve?

Shouldnt all child killers get a painful death?

No, why would you think that they should?

Really? Erm? Because they kill children is that not enough?

So the crew of the enola gay?

What about them?

Death by torture?

Dont think they calculated killed kids then burried them not no where near the same

No they cold hearted and through meticulous calculation and effort wiped out over a hundred thousand men women and children in a most brutal fashion.

They didnt even leave bodies to bury for many

War sir its a horrible thing,but if it wasnt for people like that me and you would not be having this conversation"

Well we would. The war was over.

America had actually rejected almost identical terms to the Japanese surrender weeks before the bombings.

They were weapons tests. Cold hearted tests they could never do without a city to drop them on.

Then again with the drone bombings revently i hardly think you can argue we were in any major risk of being invaded by Afghanistan.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But you see my point is you are noe the one arguing in favour of the murder of children.

From your orevipus view point of anyone who kills a child should die horribly to it's ok if its to your personal benifit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This shouldnt even be a debate the guys a cunt and should die a horrible painfull death

What purpose would his death being horrible and painful actually serve?

Shouldnt all child killers get a painful death?

No, why would you think that they should?

Really? Erm? Because they kill children is that not enough?

So the crew of the enola gay?

What about them?

Death by torture?

Dont think they calculated killed kids then burried them not no where near the same

No they cold hearted and through meticulous calculation and effort wiped out over a hundred thousand men women and children in a most brutal fashion.

They didnt even leave bodies to bury for many

War sir its a horrible thing,but if it wasnt for people like that me and you would not be having this conversation

Well we would. The war was over.

America had actually rejected almost identical terms to the Japanese surrender weeks before the bombings.

They were weapons tests. Cold hearted tests they could never do without a city to drop them on.

Then again with the drone bombings revently i hardly think you can argue we were in any major risk of being invaded by Afghanistan."

I do agree with you on some of your comments but on others sadly no,but you it has been good to chat to you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do a deal.. He can die if he shows where the last victim is

I thought he had gone back to the moors with the detectives but time had changed the contours of the land and he couldn't recognise landmarks. "

So he says...I live up around that area and use the same footpath what he used.The landscape not changed..he will know where he is buried.Keep him alive as long as possible...death is too good for him .

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"Do a deal.. He can die if he shows where the last victim is

I thought he had gone back to the moors with the detectives but time had changed the contours of the land and he couldn't recognise landmarks.

So he says...I live up around that area and use the same footpath what he used.The landscape not changed..he will know where he is buried.Keep him alive as long as possible...death is too good for him ."
grew up in saddleworth and ranged far and wide over those moors as a kid met Winnie Johnson and her sons searching for Keith's body on many an occasion saddly she is no longer with us so will never get the chance to put her son to rest. The land marks he speaks of are the fencing and road side markers that have largely gone now can remember the times both were helicoptered in to try and help .should do everything in our power to stop him killing himself untill he gives up the location of Keith's body

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


" I'd want to tear him apart with my bare hands "

I think most of us would feel the same. However, we say that from a distance, our loved ones are safe. Around the world, on a daily basis someone is hearing the heartbreaking news a loved one has been killed.

How many family members tear the perpetrators to pieces though? Not many. The reality is it's just hyperbole, whilst monsters roam among us we're generally good, decent people.

Brady and his ilk are where they need to be: permanently removed from society. I think life should mean life for certain crimes, I can live with his sentence.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Just started watching it now. What he did to those kiddies is heartbreaking. Generally I'm a peaceful person but if someone did that to my little un I have to be honest my mothers instinct would probably over ride any morals I had and I'd want to tear him apart with my bare hands .

Your not alone, I think we all possibly could.

That's why the system is there to prevent us from destroying ourselves from tragedy.... If tearing them apart with our bare hands actually had any positive results, hell I'd probably say give it a go but all the studies just say it's like drugs, it gives a very short term relief from a giant pain and I'm the end only causes further pain.

No I'm quite happy with how the law has evolved for the punishment of killers and for the mental health of the victims relatives.

It's not perfect but it's better than the alternative"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

part of me says close the door and throw away the key and feed with bread and water with the prison is too soft now attitude - part of me thinks for some proven guilty beyond doubt should be killed - part of me (as i work in severe mental health ) thinks give him the care he needs - i do have little inner wars with myself over some things

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Okay what if it was your child who had been raped or killed I know what I would do to those monsters that is my opinion. The point of a good forum is a good debate we all have our own opinions right or wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The only reason why I want him to live is because I hope he suffers every single day with his actions, and I hope he sees those poor children every time he shuts his eyes. And when he finally dies he can burn in hell with that she-bitch.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He's in Ashworth hospital, not prison. He's severely mentally ill. I'm not in any way condoning what he did or suggesting he should be let out but that his crimes have to be viewed in that context.

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton


"Okay what if it was your child who had been raped or killed I know what I would do to those monsters that is my opinion. The point of a good forum is a good debate we all have our own opinions right or wrong. "

Ah, there's the rub. You're only entitled to your opinion if it happens to coincide with the perpetually offended.

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"He's in Ashworth hospital, not prison. He's severely mentally ill. I'm not in any way condoning what he did or suggesting he should be let out but that his crimes have to be viewed in that context.

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. Good to see sometime taking a more rational view and considering the background circumstances .

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over a year ago


"The only reason why I want him to live is because I hope he suffers every single day with his actions, and I hope he sees those poor children every time he shuts his eyes. And when he finally dies he can burn in hell with that she-bitch."

I really couldn't care if he lives or dies, I'm just glad I don't live in a country with the death penalty.

But I do like these threads where people have to outdo each other with the most horrible way they'd dispatch him.

It's like the thoughts running through their heads are worse than those of the criminals.

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