FabSwingers.com forum: Religion and swinging

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Is it hypocritical to have deep religious beliefs and be on here. I find it amazing that a few couples we've met claim to be very religious but don't see a conflict with that and swinging. Personally think swinging is probably the bibles definition of Sodomn and Gomorrah but in a fantastic way

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Is it hypocritical to have deep religious beliefs and be on here. I find it amazing that a few couples we've met claim to be very religious but don't see a conflict with that and swinging. Personally think swinging is probably the bibles definition of Sodomn and Gomorrah but in a fantastic way"

Show me any religion that says one woman one man and I'll say yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not if they grok the Church of All Worlds.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeh of course. Hedonism is always frowned upon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know lots of so called deeply religious people who are the biggest hypocrites for many reasons that have nothing to do with swinging.

I personally don't think it's hypocritical to be wanting to involved in swinging with other consenting adults and have religious beliefs also.

For the record, I'm not religious.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

depends on their idea of religious beliefs really.

true christians follow the word of christ and he didn't really say that much. most of the bible is the word of god.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

I hold a string Christian faith yet I am promiscuous. I understand that this makes me a sinner (according to the strict interpretation of Bible) but I do not view myself as being a hypocrite as I don't claim to have answers to deep questions, I don't preach abstinence nor do I actively try to coerce people to live their lives in a certain way.

My faith feels right fit for me and helps to guide my morality and actions. One must balance their own morality and faith in such a way that they can live with and be accountable for their actions and their consequences.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A persons religious believe does not bother me at all and if they choose to be religious and swing then good for them.

Demonising someone because of their faith and telling them how they should behave is worse than someone claiming to be religious and then having a fulfilling sex life.

I don't think "Though shalt not swing" was one of the commandments.

I may be wrong though and stand to be corrected.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dear Religion,

Pics or it didn't happen!

Sincerely,

Science.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sure there's a big thing made about sex outside of marriage, could that have something to do with it?

Besides its not the word of God it's the word of man, who has interpreted the bible over the centuries to suit himself, and the political agenda of politicians and kings down the centuries.

I say people can preach to me when they live a life of pure Christian virtue, so if someone preaches to me and I know they ate meat on a Friday, or partake in the odd slice of black pudding then you too are going to hell, so , unlucky

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm sure there's a big thing made about sex outside of marriage, could that have something to do with it?

Besides its not the word of God it's the word of man, who has interpreted the bible over the centuries to suit himself, and the political agenda of politicians and kings down the centuries.

So why would someone bother identifying as a particular religion if it's all some bloke's words, surely it's arbitrary in that case.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They who believe in religion are not proper christians as they are living in sin by swinging.

I am not a believer myself

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Dear Religion,

Pics or it didn't happen!

Sincerely,

Science."

Love that one

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"Is it hypocritical to have deep religious beliefs and be on here."

Nah, one develops one's personal set of beliefs to guide you through life. They are personal to you and you have to justify them to no-one.

Now go and Google "Khajuraho Group of Monuments": That's the sort of church I'd go to every week...

(Interestingly Ann Summers did copies in chocolate one year. We know the exact one in which our son was conceived...)

Mr ddc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you think Satanism should be included?

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By *asokittyWoman
over a year ago

Nr Worksop

Depends on their views on other things. If they're OK with swinging but not with homosexuality and other issues then yeah hypocritical.

If not then their life their choices.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

my religion is between me and the woman upstairs!!!

although i do have the hippest funkiest priest in the world... ex army and came to it later so he has probably done more than me!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hold a string Christian faith yet I am promiscuous. I understand that this makes me a sinner (according to the strict interpretation of Bible) but I do not view myself as being a hypocrite as I don't claim to have answers to deep questions, I don't preach abstinence nor do I actively try to coerce people to live their lives in a certain way.

See, this is where religion can be interpreted. God created everyone in his own image. Jesus saves all of us. So I figure we're all good if people have a Christian faith.

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By *adyboy-DaddyCouple
over a year ago

Andover

A corner stone of pretty all religions is that through their version God lies the only forgiveness.

Without sin, no forgiveness, no forgiveness, no point in religion.

Telling people they can't be religious if they follow the rules 100% is nonsense.

I have no time for religion but we pretty much all consider ourselves decent or honest people yet we have been deceitful or lied at some point so us suggesting someone is not truly religious unless they are perfect is hypocrisy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dear Religion,

Pics or it didn't happen!

Sincerely,

Science."

I'm with this. DNA of Mary or Joseph, then I'll listen. Maybe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We're all gonna burn in hell for all eternity!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Most major religions set impossible standards that none of us can achieve with the promise of eternal life as the reward. We are all going to hell in a handcart

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Show me any religion that says one woman one man and I'll say yes. "

Mainstream religions all promote committment though - some may say one women, others may say more, but none say you can have any woman you want.

And all Christians fail in some regard or another - that's kind of the point!

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Most major religions set impossible standards that none of us can achieve with the promise of eternal life as the reward. We are all going to hell in a handcart"

Actually no - the whole premise of Christianity is that it is impossible to meet the standard.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

While I wouldn't say stong, I hold a Christian belief and occasionly sit in the pews on Sunday.

My belief is, my God isn't opposed to fun.

What others believe is their choice, but this is mine and I'm happy with that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sticks head in... Grabs popcorn...

Waits for the sinners to arrive...

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Sticks head in... Grabs popcorn...

Waits for the sinners to arrive...

What you mean 'wait'.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sticks head in... Grabs popcorn...

Waits for the sinners to arrive...

What you mean 'wait'.....

Well we didn't want to scare anyone...

Just yet

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Sticks head in... Grabs popcorn...

Waits for the sinners to arrive...

What you mean 'wait'.....

Well we didn't want to scare anyone...

Just yet

Wise as a serpent....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People twist the tenets of their particular religion so frequently that they can make it "agree" with pretty much any scenario they want it to "agree" with.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Organised religions vary a lot even with the same god and books. When people then interpret their religion you probably get as many religions as there are people.

Few people read and remember all of the stories in the books etc, so it's unrealistic to expect agreement, if few know more than 10%. And the translations have usually altered stuff a lot.

Aren't most people kind of atheist today? Not worldwide, just UK.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Mormons believe in Jesus but their guys marry and shag many women in heaven, just as an example of a several million strong religion.

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By *ustsomedude83Man
over a year ago

Berkshire

Isn't it the same with all religions that you use it to lambast others who don't live as your religious texts says while at the same time interpreting it in such a way that when you don't do as it states, it's ok, or you'll be forgiven?

Most are full of contradictions so lend themselves to it

Turn the other cheek/an eye for an eye

Thou shalt not kill / if someone does xyz they should be stoned to death

Etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if you put everyone's views up to scrutiny then you'd find something strange / contradictory in most people. To think otherwise shows an ignorance of the human condition.

If you only swung with couples that hold the same views on politics, religion and support your football team then you're going to miss some great opportunities to just have fun.

I usually find that the harshest critics of religion are usually people also holding ridiculous political views that are empirically disproven.

Hence why we don't talk politics and religion in the AbFabs hot tub.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Isn't it the same with all religions that you use it to lambast others who don't live as your religious texts says while at the same time interpreting it in such a way that when you don't do as it states, it's ok, or you'll be forgiven?

Most are full of contradictions so lend themselves to it

Turn the other cheek/an eye for an eye

Thou shalt not kill / if someone does xyz they should be stoned to death

Etc"

You are confusing law and grace - the old and new testament, pre and post Christ, Judaic and Christian teaching...... The are very different!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's all just get nekkid and dance in the forest

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Let's all just get nekkid and dance in the forest

Pagan!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it hypocritical to have deep religious beliefs and be on here.

Nah, one develops one's personal set of beliefs to guide you through life. They are personal to you and you have to justify them to no-one.

Now go and Google "Khajuraho Group of Monuments": That's the sort of church I'd go to every week...

(Interestingly Ann Summers did copies in chocolate one year. We know the exact one in which our son was conceived...)

Mr ddc"
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Ahh the Jainists?

I hope it wasn't the one with the swastikas on it

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

During my last meet, I was heard gasping "Oh God, Oh God" a few times.... .....does that count?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it hypocritical to have deep religious beliefs and be on here.

Nah, one develops one's personal set of beliefs to guide you through life. They are personal to you and you have to justify them to no-one.

Now go and Google "Khajuraho Group of Monuments": That's the sort of church I'd go to every week...

(Interestingly Ann Summers did copies in chocolate one year. We know the exact one in which our son was conceived...)

Mr ddc.

Ahh the Jainists?

I hope it wasn't the one with the swastikas on it

Swastikas are an ancient symbol that got a bad rap when dodgy people started wearing it. Like when abercrombie and fitch had to pay members of jersey shore not to wear their clothes.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

Thou shalt not covet they neighbour's ass

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was introduced to this site by a Jehovah's Witness.

True story!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it hypocritical to have deep religious beliefs and be on here.

Nah, one develops one's personal set of beliefs to guide you through life. They are personal to you and you have to justify them to no-one.

Now go and Google "Khajuraho Group of Monuments": That's the sort of church I'd go to every week...

(Interestingly Ann Summers did copies in chocolate one year. We know the exact one in which our son was conceived...)

Mr ddc.

Ahh the Jainists?

I hope it wasn't the one with the swastikas on it

Swastikas are an ancient symbol that got a bad rap when dodgy people started wearing it. Like when abercrombie and fitch had to pay members of jersey shore not to wear their clothes. "
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Yeah I know, I still cross the road when I see someone with a swasie tattoo on their head though

That's the trouble with symbols there symbolic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it hypocritical to have deep religious beliefs and be on here.

Nah, one develops one's personal set of beliefs to guide you through life. They are personal to you and you have to justify them to no-one.

Now go and Google "Khajuraho Group of Monuments": That's the sort of church I'd go to every week...

(Interestingly Ann Summers did copies in chocolate one year. We know the exact one in which our son was conceived...)

Mr ddc.

Ahh the Jainists?

I hope it wasn't the one with the swastikas on it

Swastikas are an ancient symbol that got a bad rap when dodgy people started wearing it. Like when abercrombie and fitch had to pay members of jersey shore not to wear their clothes. .

Yeah I know, I still cross the road when I see someone with a swasie tattoo on their head though

That's the trouble with symbols there symbolic"

I know what you mean. I cross the road when I see someone wearing abercrombie and fitch. I'm afraid they might call me "bro" and I won't be able to hide the disgust on my face.

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Very easy to answer this one.

If you are a religious swinger, have a straw poll of your fellow believers and ask their views about you having sex with strangers every weekend. Don't forget to mention it to your religious leader while you're at it, for sure he/she will forgive you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it hypocritical to have deep religious beliefs and be on here.

Nah, one develops one's personal set of beliefs to guide you through life. They are personal to you and you have to justify them to no-one.

Now go and Google "Khajuraho Group of Monuments": That's the sort of church I'd go to every week...

(Interestingly Ann Summers did copies in chocolate one year. We know the exact one in which our son was conceived...)

Mr ddc.

Ahh the Jainists?

I hope it wasn't the one with the swastikas on it

Swastikas are an ancient symbol that got a bad rap when dodgy people started wearing it. Like when abercrombie and fitch had to pay members of jersey shore not to wear their clothes. .

Yeah I know, I still cross the road when I see someone with a swasie tattoo on their head though

That's the trouble with symbols there symbolic

I know what you mean. I cross the road when I see someone wearing abercrombie and fitch. I'm afraid they might call me "bro" and I won't be able to hide the disgust on my face. "
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Errr no you've lost me, my clothing style is black,blue and worn-out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it hypocritical to have deep religious beliefs and be on here.

Nah, one develops one's personal set of beliefs to guide you through life. They are personal to you and you have to justify them to no-one.

Now go and Google "Khajuraho Group of Monuments": That's the sort of church I'd go to every week...

(Interestingly Ann Summers did copies in chocolate one year. We know the exact one in which our son was conceived...)

Mr ddc.

Ahh the Jainists?

I hope it wasn't the one with the swastikas on it

Swastikas are an ancient symbol that got a bad rap when dodgy people started wearing it. Like when abercrombie and fitch had to pay members of jersey shore not to wear their clothes. .

Yeah I know, I still cross the road when I see someone with a swasie tattoo on their head though

That's the trouble with symbols there symbolic

I know what you mean. I cross the road when I see someone wearing abercrombie and fitch. I'm afraid they might call me "bro" and I won't be able to hide the disgust on my face. .

Errr no you've lost me, my clothing style is black,blue and worn-out

Ladies and gentlemen, mark Zuckerberg has a fab account.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Having said that, of all the religions the jains are the least problematic.... It's kinda cruel that the Nazis ruined there symbols

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Having said that, of all the religions the jains are the least problematic.... It's kinda cruel that the Nazis ruined there symbols

It wasn't just theirs. Buddhists have long used swastikas too. There's always one person who gets carried away and ruins the party for everyone else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Having said that, of all the religions the jains are the least problematic.... It's kinda cruel that the Nazis ruined there symbols

It wasn't just theirs. Buddhists have long used swastikas too. There's always one person who gets carried away and ruins the party for everyone else. "
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Was there jack Daniels involved?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Having said that, of all the religions the jains are the least problematic.... It's kinda cruel that the Nazis ruined there symbols

It wasn't just theirs. Buddhists have long used swastikas too. There's always one person who gets carried away and ruins the party for everyone else. .

Was there jack Daniels involved?"

Doubt it as Hitler didn't drink.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

I think people in general make too much of a big deal when it comes to monogamy and religion. Sexual relations probably only accounts for like 0.1% of the bible and Christianity. There's far far more to considering oneself religious than monogamy and chastity.

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue

"Do you think Satanism should be included?"

oh definitely. .though they don't mind getting sexy and naked. .don't know about the blood and goat's side of it though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Having said that, of all the religions the jains are the least problematic.... It's kinda cruel that the Nazis ruined there symbols

It wasn't just theirs. Buddhists have long used swastikas too. There's always one person who gets carried away and ruins the party for everyone else. .

Was there jack Daniels involved?

Doubt it as Hitler didn't drink. "
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See that's why he was never a leftist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you think Satanism should be included?

oh definitely. .though they don't mind getting sexy and naked. .don't know about the blood and goat's side of it though

There's no blood and goats, i'm just my own Goddess.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very easy to answer this one.

I don't get this notion.

Would non religious swingers tell their friends and colleagues what they get up to.

They would be judged in the same manner I would suspect.

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Very easy to answer this one.

I don't get this notion.

Would non religious swingers tell their friends and colleagues what they get up to.

They would be judged in the same manner I would suspect. "

You make a good point. However the OP's ?ion was a about hypocrisy. Many religions have very extreme views about sexual activities, to be actively involved in a faith and be a secret swinger? Sounds like hypocrisy to us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The last vicar in our local church was of the opinion that if it was between consenting adults then it was all good. She also defined being a Christian as someone who has a belief and relationship with God, no mention of following all the rules.

If she was still with us, I know she would probably be the least judgemental of all our "vanilla" friends, and actually take some kind of interest into what it was all about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hahaha agree with u OP I'm Christian, I'm sure somewhere in the commandments there is something about adultery etc

as it stands I'm sure I've got a ticket bond for hell lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you think Satanism should be included?

oh definitely. .though they don't mind getting sexy and naked. .don't know about the blood and goat's side of it though

There aren't any goats.....

Plenty of sheep though

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