FabSwingers.com forum: Professional

By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

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See lots of profiles saying they are looking for a professional. What constitutes a professional?

I'm an electrician and had to go to college for 5 years so does going into higher education constitute a professional?

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Being called Bodie or Doyle, anything else isn't cannon.

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By *oobsandballsMan
over a year ago

st andrews

"Being called Bodie or Doyle, anything else isn't cannon.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

I can't afford a pro! If there are any enthusiastic amateurs out there willing to gain some "in the job" experience I would be ever so frightfully grateful

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

If you don't know what a professional is, then you aren't one.....

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By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

Pontefract

So come on what makes you a professional?

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe

"See lots of profiles saying they are looking for a professional. What constitutes a professional?

I'm an electrician and had to go to college for 5 years so does going into higher education constitute a professional? "

That's what some believe, higher education and training for a particular profession equals a professional. Some believe with this comes a certain level of common thought, "likeminded people", it doesn't always work out like that though.

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

24 years as an Army officer;

5 years as head of an engineering organisation doing post conflict reconstruction, would wide

12 years as a director in a scientific research organisation.

MSc, MBA, PhD and two charterships

Since you ask .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The amount of time I seem to spend on here I reckon I could class myself as a professional tart and perv

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By *hocko87Man
over a year ago

dublin

It's another word for a dickhead I think lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Technically I think you just have to be a member of a governing body which sets rules of practise/conduct

Ie doctor, solicitor

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

" What constitutes a professional?"

It's misleading... Technically, any job you are paid to do constitutes "professional".

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe

"It's another word for a dickhead I think lol "

See, I really don't understand this line of thought, if someone's a proffesional by definition why are they a dickhead?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh it's the age old separation of the classes, blue collar versus white collar.

I see a dating site being advertised for "Elite Singles" a site for "professionals".

There will be plenty of assholes there too as in any grouping.

Maybe we should set up a site called "Elite Swingers"

Oxymoron, I hear you say. Lmfao

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By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

Pontefract

"Technically I think you just have to be a member of a governing body which sets rules of practise/conduct

Ie doctor, solicitor"

Lots of governing bodies out there. I'm a member of two

JIB and niceic

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

Electrician = tradesman

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

It is just a very English thing really, because no one likes to offend. Better to say professional than to say... No fatties, uglies, chavs or poor people.

Of course everyone knows what "professional" really means in the context of Fab and so the reverse snobbery starts to kick in when people question it.

To those who do question the use of "professional" as a choice filter - ask yourselves if you would prefer the User to be blunt and honest or just use the words that mean they are at least diplomatic?

Either way, questioning it probably means that you are not what the User would be looking for so best just move on.

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By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

Pontefract

"Electrician = tradesman

Really?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The word professional gets banded about to easily. I get hundreds of cv's telling me they are professional, but only passed the course.

I believe a professional is commensurate with expert and that comes with experience if associated with something else.

Naturally people can be professional in their attitude but then this needs to identified, ie a professional approach to........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn't it accepted to be a white collar profession? A City professional is someone that works as a trader or sales or something, not the bloke that does maintenance.

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

"Isn't it accepted to be a white collar profession? A City professional is someone that works as a trader or sales or something, not the bloke that does maintenance. "

Like when your washing machine breaks; they say " we will send an engineer"

" no thanks, I don't want my washing machine redesigned ,I want it repaired. Send me a washing machine repair man"

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By *exysuzi and Mr.SCouple
over a year ago

CONISTON .Stoke Suburbia. MOORLANDS & BARMOUTH.

"Technically I think you just have to be a member of a governing body which sets rules of practise/conduct

Ie doctor, solicitor"

This. And people registered to a governing body have to pay a yearly fee to remain on the register, which is not cheap. Xxxxx Suzi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is just a very English thing really, because no one likes to offend. Better to say professional than to say... No fatties, uglies, chavs or poor people.

Of course everyone knows what "professional" really means in the context of Fab and so the reverse snobbery starts to kick in when people question it.

Either way, questioning it probably means that you are not what the User would be looking for so best just move on."

Especially the last sentence!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it accepted to be a white collar profession? A City professional is someone that works as a trader or sales or something, not the bloke that does maintenance.

Like when your washing machine breaks; they say " we will send an engineer"

" no thanks, I don't want my washing machine redesigned ,I want it repaired. Send me a washing machine repair man""

I don't know any engineers that solely do repairs either. A lot of people want job titles above their stations.

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By *carlet_heavenWoman
over a year ago

somewhere in the sticks

"It is just a very English thing really, because no one likes to offend. Better to say professional than to say... No fatties, uglies, chavs or poor people.

Of course everyone knows what "professional" really means in the context of Fab and so the reverse snobbery starts to kick in when people question it.

Either way, questioning it probably means that you are not what the User would be looking for so best just move on."

I'm a poor professional…being a professional is an attitude of the mind rather than being equated with economic status imho.

A good knowledge base in your area of work, Self awareness, an ability to see the big picture & to be able to anticipate/deal with problems that arise & conduct yourself with dignity are essential. Its not just about the qualifications, as any professional will tell you. In my profession we HAVE to study professional ethics…but that can't make you ethical, if its not within you to begin with!

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By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

Pontefract

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By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

Pontefract

"Isn't it accepted to be a white collar profession? A City professional is someone that works as a trader or sales or something, not the bloke that does maintenance.

Like when your washing machine breaks; they say " we will send an engineer"

" no thanks, I don't want my washing machine redesigned ,I want it repaired. Send me a washing machine repair man""

Says the ex army man

Got told what to do

Then told someone else to do it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lucky for me I'm a tradeswoman so no professionals would want to meet me unless it's too employ me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it accepted to be a white collar profession? A City professional is someone that works as a trader or sales or something, not the bloke that does maintenance.

Like when your washing machine breaks; they say " we will send an engineer"

" no thanks, I don't want my washing machine redesigned ,I want it repaired. Send me a washing machine repair man"

Says the ex army man

Got told what to do

Then told someone else to do it "

Lolololol

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

Having got used to telling people what to do throughout my life

Then I have no problem in telling them what to do now.

Even when I can usually do it better than they can.

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By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

Pontefract

"Having got used to telling people what to do throughout my life

Then I have no problem in telling them what to do now.

Even when I can usually do it better than they can."

Very much doubt it

In this world there are people who can

And people that can tell people what to do but have no practical aptitude

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"24 years as an Army officer;

5 years as head of an engineering organisation doing post conflict reconstruction, would wide

12 years as a director in a scientific research organisation.

MSc, MBA, PhD and two charterships

Since you ask .

You became an army officer at 17??!! Youngest ever?

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By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

Pontefract

"24 years as an Army officer;

5 years as head of an engineering organisation doing post conflict reconstruction, would wide

12 years as a director in a scientific research organisation.

MSc, MBA, PhD and two charterships

Since you ask .

You became an army officer at 17??!! Youngest ever?"

Must have been a child prodigy

Full of s**t

I know which option I'm going for

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

Yes; commissioned at 17 years 9 months actually

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like not being a professional, means I don't have to uphold a moral code

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By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

Pontefract

"Yes; commissioned at 17 years 9 months actually "

Google is a marvellous thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Electrician = tradesman

Really? "
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What classes as an engineer?

Somebody who uses scientific knowledge including mathematics for the design and building of particular apparatus.

I take it you know the adiabatic equation for earthing, Faraday's law of induction for electrical motors, you transposition equations for electrical loads??.

Yep, your an engineer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Electrician = tradesman

Really? .

What classes as an engineer?

Somebody who uses scientific knowledge including mathematics for the design and building of particular apparatus.

I take it you know the adiabatic equation for earthing, Faraday's law of induction for electrical motors, you transposition equations for electrical loads??.

Yep, your an engineer.

Someone who studied engineering and has an established education in it. Not just someone who works as a plumber's mate to learn some skills.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Electrician = tradesman

Really? .

What classes as an engineer?

Somebody who uses scientific knowledge including mathematics for the design and building of particular apparatus.

I take it you know the adiabatic equation for earthing, Faraday's law of induction for electrical motors, you transposition equations for electrical loads??.

Yep, your an engineer.

being an engineer is easy....

Precision guess work

Based on unreliable data

Provided by those of questionable knowledge

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Electrician = tradesman

Really? .

What classes as an engineer?

Somebody who uses scientific knowledge including mathematics for the design and building of particular apparatus.

I take it you know the adiabatic equation for earthing, Faraday's law of induction for electrical motors, you transposition equations for electrical loads??.

Yep, your an engineer.

Someone who studied engineering and has an established education in it. Not just someone who works as a plumber's mate to learn some skills. "
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He said he was a qualified electrican not a plumbers "mate".

As such he is an electrical engineer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

pretentious bellends

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Electrician = tradesman

Really? .

What classes as an engineer?

Somebody who uses scientific knowledge including mathematics for the design and building of particular apparatus.

I take it you know the adiabatic equation for earthing, Faraday's law of induction for electrical motors, you transposition equations for electrical loads??.

Yep, your an engineer.

Someone who studied engineering and has an established education in it. Not just someone who works as a plumber's mate to learn some skills. .

He said he was a qualified electrican not a plumbers "mate".

As such he is an electrical engineer."

I was answering the question what qualifies an engineer. Stop jumping the gun and learn to read the entirety for once. It's so irritating having to explain stuff over and over.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes; commissioned at 17 years 9 months actually "

Yup full of it!

Well done for being able to do your degree before Sandhurst... start that at 15?

Or levels at 13?

Impressive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Electrician = tradesman

Really? .

What classes as an engineer?

Somebody who uses scientific knowledge including mathematics for the design and building of particular apparatus.

I take it you know the adiabatic equation for earthing, Faraday's law of induction for electrical motors, you transposition equations for electrical loads??.

Yep, your an engineer.

Someone who studied engineering and has an established education in it. Not just someone who works as a plumber's mate to learn some skills. .

He said he was a qualified electrican not a plumbers "mate".

As such he is an electrical engineer.

I was answering the question what qualifies an engineer. Stop jumping the gun and learn to read the entirety for once. It's so irritating having to explain stuff over and over. "
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Yes ma'am

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My boss is the queen am i professional?

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

"Yes; commissioned at 17 years 9 months actually

Google is a marvellous thing "

So it is; what's that got to do with anything?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like these professional threads..gets people riled up as much as a bareback thread.

Sheldon from the Big Bang theory reckons being an engineer doesn't count.....discuss

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

It's always fun winding people up.

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By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

Pontefract

"Electrician = tradesman

Really? .

What classes as an engineer?

Somebody who uses scientific knowledge including mathematics for the design and building of particular apparatus.

I take it you know the adiabatic equation for earthing, Faraday's law of induction for electrical motors, you transposition equations for electrical loads??.

Yep, your an engineer.

Of course I do or I wouldn't have passed my 2391 inspection and testing. I'm an aproved electrician not a installation electrician. Pass rate for 2391 was only 25% so they dumbed it down and renamed it so that new installations, could be signed off. Wonder how many on here have had there consumer units ( fuse boards ) changed but done by someone who isn't fully qualified to do it. Which would render there house insurance void

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By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

Pontefract

"Yes; commissioned at 17 years 9 months actually

Google is a marvellous thing

So it is; what's that got to do with anything?"

Means you googled minimum age for army officer

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

"Yes; commissioned at 17 years 9 months actually

Google is a marvellous thing

So it is; what's that got to do with anything?

Means you googled minimum age for army officer "

How do you come to that conclusion?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This popcorn is delicious...

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By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

Pontefract

"Yes; commissioned at 17 years 9 months actually

Google is a marvellous thing

So it is; what's that got to do with anything?

Means you googled minimum age for army officer

How do you come to that conclusion?

Work it out

After all your a professional

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes; commissioned at 17 years 9 months actually

Google is a marvellous thing

So it is; what's that got to do with anything?

Means you googled minimum age for army officer

How do you come to that conclusion?

You're the one with all the qualifications... you work it out.

To do your 44 weeks at Sandhurst and pass out exactly on the minimum requirement age...

to do a degree... generally for that you'd need to do A levels and for A levels you'd need O levels... You did all of those after Sandhurst?... let me guess the Army sponsored you...

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By *carlet_heavenWoman
over a year ago

somewhere in the sticks

"Electrician = tradesman

Really? .

What classes as an engineer?

Somebody who uses scientific knowledge including mathematics for the design and building of particular apparatus.

I take it you know the adiabatic equation for earthing, Faraday's law of induction for electrical motors, you transposition equations for electrical loads??.

Yep, your an engineer.

Hmmm…are you now saying that the governing body of the profession you belong to is not doing its job effectively? Surely that would make them UN-professional if they let that happen?

For the sake of all those people (on here & elsewhere for that matter) who have had work done by unqualified (or unprofessional) electricians who are working without proper regulation…that there's nothing life-threatening due to the self-professed unprofessionalism happening in your profession-eh?

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

"Having got used to telling people what to do throughout my life

Then I have no problem in telling them what to do now.

Even when I can usually do it better than they can.

Very much doubt it

In this world there are people who can

And people that can tell people what to do but have no practical aptitude "

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By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

Pontefract

"Electrician = tradesman

Really? .

What classes as an engineer?

Somebody who uses scientific knowledge including mathematics for the design and building of particular apparatus.

I take it you know the adiabatic equation for earthing, Faraday's law of induction for electrical motors, you transposition equations for electrical loads??.

Yep, your an engineer.

Hmmm…are you now saying that the governing body of the profession you belong to is not doing its job effectively? Surely that would make them UN-professional if they let that happen?

So the potential for electric shock or your house burning down due to unqualified electricians isn't life threatening?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only on fab

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm an electrical engineer. Have my degree and have nearly 20 years of doing it. I'd call the OP an engineer.

An engineer is not defined by a piece of paper it's a mind set. If you can take a problem look it logically, come up with a solution and apply it, you are an engineer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm an electrical engineer. Have my degree and have nearly 20 years of doing it. I'd call the OP an engineer.

An engineer is not defined by a piece of paper it's a mind set. If you can take a problem look it logically, come up with a solution and apply it, you are an engineer. "

I have two hands and only one beer....another beer is the solution.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm an electrical engineer. Have my degree and have nearly 20 years of doing it. I'd call the OP an engineer.

An engineer is not defined by a piece of paper it's a mind set. If you can take a problem look it logically, come up with a solution and apply it, you are an engineer.

I have two hands and only one beer....another beer is the solution.

Best, engineer, ever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Electrician = tradesman

Really? .

What classes as an engineer?

Somebody who uses scientific knowledge including mathematics for the design and building of particular apparatus.

I take it you know the adiabatic equation for earthing, Faraday's law of induction for electrical motors, you transposition equations for electrical loads??.

Yep, your an engineer.

Hmmm…are you now saying that the governing body of the profession you belong to is not doing its job effectively? Surely that would make them UN-professional if they let that happen?

You see that's where it falls down, technically you don't have to be a member to do electrical work, the iee(institute of electrical engineering) wiring regulations are guidance of requirements, they can be used against you in a court of law for your failings if you can't prove what you did was safe!.

They can't revoke or bar you from practise which is why I said at the beginning that constitutes a professional!.

That being said, if you get somebody with no qualifications to do a job that needs some knowledge and it goes wrong, well who's fault is that?

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By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

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Although I have no need to be in the niceic or the other main one is napit. I am because I would have to report my jobs individually to the council and pay for each one. With the niceic I just report to them. Plus I get checked once a year by them. I give them a list of jobs I have done, they choose one and come with me to check out work I have done. It's a guide to customers that I am qualified and do a job to the required standard. Even then I could find myself in court and jailed if things went wrong

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think some people should thank their lucky stars for people like Richard trevithick who probably changed their lives immeasurably.

He wasn't a professional and he did not take much advantage of the education provided – one of his school masters described him as "a disobedient, slow, obstinate, spoiled boy, frequently absent and very inattentive". An exception was arithmetic, for which he had an aptitude, but arrived at the correct answers by unconventional means.... You can't always measure intelligence with traditional qualifications

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By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

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"I think some people should thank their lucky stars for people like Richard trevithick who probably changed their lives immeasurably.

Had to google him but would say mining engineer was a professional

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

"Yes; commissioned at 17 years 9 months actually

Google is a marvellous thing

So it is; what's that got to do with anything?

Means you googled minimum age for army officer

How do you come to that conclusion?

You're the one with all the qualifications... you work it out.

To do your 44 weeks at Sandhurst and pass out exactly on the minimum requirement age...

to do a degree... generally for that you'd need to do A levels and for A levels you'd need O levels... You did all of those after Sandhurst?... let me guess the Army sponsored you...

Oh dear...

Google is not your Freind is it?

The age limits today are different to the 1970s

So it was possible to start training on your 17th birthday, and the course at the time was 9 months. Nowadays you cannot apply before 17 yrs 9 months, and generally cannot start training until 18.

Nowadays the majority of Officer candidates have a degree before they join; then, few had degrees, many of us did a degree a few years later .

And yes I had 3 A levels before I joined.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's also good to note he blew up his pioneering invention while stopping for a quick ale...

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By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

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"It's also good to note he blew up his pioneering invention while stopping for a quick ale...

Good lad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"24 years as an Army officer;

5 years as head of an engineering organisation doing post conflict reconstruction, would wide

12 years as a director in a scientific research organisation.

MSc, MBA, PhD and two charterships

Since you ask .

Hahaha how many of those letter's did you require to hit Google search?

Professional = paid,salaried full time worker!

I was a professional boxer lol not the most successful either retired at at age 23 with a record of 4 wins 3 defeats and a draw but the pay was terrible for getting punched in the head repeatedly but i was "professional". The beauty of the English language many words can have many meanings my pompous friend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"24 years as an Army officer;

5 years as head of an engineering organisation doing post conflict reconstruction, would wide

12 years as a director in a scientific research organisation.

MSc, MBA, PhD and two charterships

Since you ask .

Hahaha how many of those letter's did you require to hit Google search?

Professional = paid,salaried full time worker!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes; commissioned at 17 years 9 months actually

Google is a marvellous thing

So it is; what's that got to do with anything?

Means you googled minimum age for army officer

How do you come to that conclusion?

You're the one with all the qualifications... you work it out.

To do your 44 weeks at Sandhurst and pass out exactly on the minimum requirement age...

to do a degree... generally for that you'd need to do A levels and for A levels you'd need O levels... You did all of those after Sandhurst?... let me guess the Army sponsored you...

Oh dear...

Google is not your Freind is it?

The age limits today are different to the 1970s

So it was possible to start training on your 17th birthday, and the course at the time was 9 months. Nowadays you cannot apply before 17 yrs 9 months, and generally cannot start training until 18.

Nowadays the majority of Officer candidates have a degree before they join; then, few had degrees, many of us did a degree a few years later .

And yes I had 3 A levels before I joined.

Vous êtes plein de la merde.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"See lots of profiles saying they are looking for a professional. What constitutes a professional?

I'm an electrician and had to go to college for 5 years so does going into higher education constitute a professional? "

Word to the wise. If you come across something on a profile you don't understand then it's unlikely it's you they're looking for, so move on!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"If you don't know what a professional is, then you aren't one.....

Agree!

Inverted snobbery by those disgruntled because the objects of their desire may not be used interested in them so usually start these type of threads yo bolster their fragile egos.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"24 years as an Army officer;

5 years as head of an engineering organisation doing post conflict reconstruction, would wide

12 years as a director in a scientific research organisation.

MSc, MBA, PhD and two charterships

Since you ask .

Oooooh now you've done it.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"It's another word for a dickhead I think lol "

Jealous much?

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"It's another word for a dickhead I think lol

See, I really don't understand this line of thought, if someone's a proffesional by definition why are they a dickhead? "

Nor I!

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy

"I like these professional threads..gets people riled up as much as a bareback thread.

Sheldon from the Big Bang theory reckons being an engineer doesn't count.....discuss

Because so many people are obsessed with status. I tend to avoid people who are so obviously defined by what they do for a living.

It means little.

I'm more interested in the actual person.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"It is just a very English thing really, because no one likes to offend. Better to say professional than to say... No fatties, uglies, chavs or poor people.

Of course everyone knows what "professional" really means in the context of Fab and so the reverse snobbery starts to kick in when people question it.

Either way, questioning it probably means that you are not what the User would be looking for so best just move on."

Couldn't have put it better myself !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The attitudes of one another from both sides of the camp are pretty disgusting.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"24 years as an Army officer;

5 years as head of an engineering organisation doing post conflict reconstruction, would wide

12 years as a director in a scientific research organisation.

MSc, MBA, PhD and two charterships

Since you ask .

You became an army officer at 17??!! Youngest ever?

Must have been a child prodigy

Full of s**t

I know which option I'm going for

Why are you getting personal?

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By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

Pontefract

"24 years as an Army officer;

5 years as head of an engineering organisation doing post conflict reconstruction, would wide

12 years as a director in a scientific research organisation.

MSc, MBA, PhD and two charterships

Since you ask .

You became an army officer at 17??!! Youngest ever?

Must have been a child prodigy

Full of s**t

I know which option I'm going for

Why are you getting personal?

Not getting personal. Just my opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The attitudes of one another from both sides of the camp are pretty disgusting."

Its gotten really childish on both sides

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

I met during my just under 14 years in the Royal Engineers new 'troopies' (Troop Commanders) who were 19 when they took post and funny enough there were many guys who either through the Army Education lot undertook further academic qualifications as well as outside bodies like the OU..

i started a degree with the OU after doing some catch up prior to applying with the above but life etc took precedence..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

V here. Adam has already been told off (by me)..... It is rather funny though

It's definitely been facetious forum Friday so far. Well maybe not so clever but definitely amusing.

Xxx

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

Made my boring train journey fun

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By *tockingsnsuspenders1960Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in south yorks

"See lots of profiles saying they are looking for a professional. What constitutes a professional?

I'm an electrician and had to go to college for 5 years so does going into higher education constitute a professional? "
No spinning around corners & doing wheel spins in your 30s capri constitutes you as a professional lol!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes; commissioned at 17 years 9 months actually "

You would have been an army cadet. You weren't commissioned at 17.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Group hug everyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can wire a plug...I'm semi professional

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By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

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But do you wire said plug correctly? As there is a right way and wrong way to do it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well... I'm still here to tell the tale.

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By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

Pontefract

Ha ha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The attitudes of one another from both sides of the camp are pretty disgusting."

Excellent summary.

I haven't read the whole thread but I know I don't need to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think we were just privy to an attempted "Walting"

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

This one again.

Most of the confusion arises in people who don't understand that it is both an adjective and a noun.

In the context of for example, a professional footballer, it is being used as an adjective.

In the context of, a Professional, it is being used as a noun and means a member of a learned (pr. lur - ned)profession, such as Law, Medicine, Architecture. It implies at the very least a first degree, with post graduate qualifications and membership of a professional body.

So if you have to ask, they're probably not for you, and if your inverted snobbery causes you to be offended by the use of the term, they're probably not for you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"See lots of profiles saying they are looking for a professional. What constitutes a professional?

I'm an electrician and had to go to college for 5 years so does going into higher education constitute a professional? "

Only if you're a member of IET or similar.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Pass me the salt and vinegar. Lots of chips on lots of shoulders here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"24 years as an Army officer;

5 years as head of an engineering organisation doing post conflict reconstruction, would wide

12 years as a director in a scientific research organisation.

MSc, MBA, PhD and two charterships

Since you ask .

With all that experience and qualifications one would think you could spot that you put "would" instead of presumably "world". Or am I being old fashioned?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

genuine professional - wtf does it matter if you are or not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"24 years as an Army officer;

5 years as head of an engineering organisation doing post conflict reconstruction, would wide

12 years as a director in a scientific research organisation.

MSc, MBA, PhD and two charterships

Since you ask .

Hahaha how many of those letter's did you require to hit Google search?

Professional = paid,salaried full time worker!

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By *ali 69Man
over a year ago

jersey

" What constitutes a professional?

It's misleading... Technically, any job you are paid to do constitutes "professional". "

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It would be easier for everyone if users were explicitly clear about their preferences. Using euphemisms, clichés or users not really understanding what they want or how to be specific are opportunities for less meets or satisfaction.

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By *icksfocus OP Man
over a year ago

Pontefract

"It would be easier for everyone if users were explicitly clear about their preferences. Using euphemisms, clichés or users not really understanding what they want or how to be specific are opportunities for less meets or satisfaction."

Some people on here can't even be honest about there sexuality so this has no chance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's pretentious claptrap.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"24 years as an Army officer;

5 years as head of an engineering organisation doing post conflict reconstruction, would wide

12 years as a director in a scientific research organisation.

MSc, MBA, PhD and two charterships

Since you ask .

But... Can you moonwalk?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"It's another word for a dickhead I think lol "

Judging by the appallingly written profiles on some, I have a tendency to agree. If being a 'professional' is one of their selling points then woe is them that does.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's another word for a dickhead I think lol

Judging by the appallingly written profiles on some, I have a tendency to agree. If being a 'professional' is one of their selling points then woe is them that does.

Fak off! I pay an honest £170 per year to wear these emperors new clothes, i mean be profshonaly registered.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"It's another word for a dickhead I think lol

Judging by the appallingly written profiles on some, I have a tendency to agree. If being a 'professional' is one of their selling points then woe is them that does.

Fak off! I pay an honest £170 per year to wear these emperors new clothes, i mean be profshonaly registered."

Lose it, fly boy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

naively thought the word was a derivative of the the word proficient, paid or unpaid for a service rendered does not make you a professional!

When all said and done it's a crutch some need to bolster their feeling of self importance and self worth, pretty sad really, we're all flesh and blood albeit in different colours, shapes and sizes, drop the label, grab a life!

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By *kin BohnerMan
over a year ago

derby

I get paid for the work I do therefore I am a professional not an amateur.

I take it that the person useing it to mean someone of a certain status is so far up their own backside I would not want to meet them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I get paid for the work I do therefore I am a professional not an amateur.

I take it that the person useing it to mean someone of a certain status is so far up their own backside I would not want to meet them.

Well said

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Professional is a word that people use to describe themselves but unfortunately lots of people take it as an insult to them personally. It isn't a comment on other people any more than describing yourself as slim is an insult to fat people. I honestly can't understand why one simple word bothers people so much.

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By *ali 69Man
over a year ago

jersey

Well why would you even mention it ? Ok , what if you met a " professional " and they were shit beyond belief in bed ? Does your profession hold any guarantee of satisfaction to another ? If they printed a photo of their bank statement on their profile , would that be more alluring ? Instead of bitch slapping people with the thing you do for a living , why not just write a profile and put photos up and let people decide on that ? Manners trumps profession any day of the week .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Professional is a word that people use to describe themselves but unfortunately lots of people take it as an insult to them personally. It isn't a comment on other people any more than describing yourself as slim is an insult to fat people. I honestly can't understand why one simple word bothers people so much."

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"Well why would you even mention it ? Ok , what if you met a " professional " and they were shit beyond belief in bed ? Does your profession hold any guarantee of satisfaction to another ? If they printed a photo of their bank statement on their profile , would that be more alluring ? Instead of bitch slapping people with the thing you do for a living , why not just write a profile and put photos up and let people decide on that ? Manners trumps profession any day of the week .

Why is putting professional on your profile bitch slapping other people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's quite simple really. If your job requires any type of manual handling or work wear, you're not a professional.

You're not very well educated, and probably read a tabloid newspaper. You think immigrants are stealing your job and you support Ukip or Britain first.

You most likely live in council or social housing and drive a car at least ten years old, usually a Ford.

You are on the minimum wage or just above and your topics of conversation are football and shagging, both of which you are an expert in.

You eat a lot of takeaways, and have a 50 inch television, with Sky, permanently tuned to ITV.

Please know your place, and send your semi literate messages to someone of your own ilk.

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By *carlet_heavenWoman
over a year ago

somewhere in the sticks

"It's quite simple really. If your job requires any type of manual handling or work wear, you're not a professional.

You're not very well educated, and probably read a tabloid newspaper. You think immigrants are stealing your job and you support Ukip or Britain first.

You most likely live in council or social housing and drive a car at least ten years old, usually a Ford.

You are on the minimum wage or just above and your topics of conversation are football and shagging, both of which you are an expert in.

You eat a lot of takeaways, and have a 50 inch television, with Sky, permanently tuned to ITV.

Please know your place, and send your semi literate messages to someone of your own ilk.

ha ha ha-brilliant

although…shopping at ASDA or local off-licence !?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Means they won't meet Diddy wacks .

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