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"Work ethic is good....but "jobs" are different. We can have work ethic without jobs. I don't mean un-employed people. I mean as technology gets more advanced and takes over more jobs it should be seen as a good thing, so we can apply our work ethic to other things like your passions in life, sorting out the environment, better or real education etc... Some people like their job but other things can be found to be done which can be enjoyed, depending on your personal preference/interests. I think it's becoming clearer that we are heading, gradually, to a future without jobs (as technology does the jobs for us). Which means a future where we get paid for nothing (like Universal Basic Income) and then maybe even a world without barter as the automated factories produce what we need anyway so no need for barter. An equal access (free) system type of thing. Do you recognize the difference between work ethic and jobs? It worries me sometimes that some people can't see beyond having jobs. "We need jobs!!" they say. No we don't. An equal access, high technology system can provide us with what we need for free (eventually)...so no bills to pay Any thoughts? "Technology will never replace manpower in my job, no matter how advanced or clever it gets. | |||
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"There are many, many jobs that can't be done with technology. And it's only in the developed countries where this 'work ethic' can be transferred. In the rest of the world just being able to feed themselves is the most important thing." Well yes but in a free access system a lot of jobs done today wouldn't be needed. All that is basically needed is production of goods/food/homes/clean water etc...Delivery systems etc...Those can be automated largely. It's complex but in a free access system without labor for income there is no need for any financial or business based jobs. A lot of health issues have been linked to our current economic system. Increased anxiety, depression, suicide rates etc...bad food (processed foods for example), lower brain function in people raised in less equal societies at the lower rungs of the ladder etc... So less health based jobs would be needed due to the increase in good health in a better economic system. Yes people design technology and maintain it. Although increasingly as time goes on machines or advanced software could design and produce future tech. When it comes to maintenance, that could be done voluntarily which plenty of people would do (I would). People worldwide already do billions of hours worth of voluntary work so it's something people already do and it wouldn't be full-time. If we didn't have to work for what we need then plenty of people are interested in science and engineering so I'm 100% sure that there would be plenty of people who would work in those fields. Not because they need to pay the bills but because they are genuinely interested in various fields of science/engineering/medical care etc... There's more to it than just that obviously but I do hope that we let go of this idea of having to 'earn' a living. People say technology can't do all jobs but not all jobs need to be done and as time goes on technology becomes more advanced so just because it can't or isn't being done now, that doesn't mean it can't be done in the near(ish) future | |||
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"Work ethic is good....but "jobs" are different. We can have work ethic without jobs. I don't mean un-employed people. I mean as technology gets more advanced and takes over more jobs it should be seen as a good thing, so we can apply our work ethic to other things like your passions in life, sorting out the environment, better or real education etc... Some people like their job but other things can be found to be done which can be enjoyed, depending on your personal preference/interests. I think it's becoming clearer that we are heading, gradually, to a future without jobs (as technology does the jobs for us). Which means a future where we get paid for nothing (like Universal Basic Income) and then maybe even a world without barter as the automated factories produce what we need anyway so no need for barter. An equal access (free) system type of thing. Do you recognize the difference between work ethic and jobs? It worries me sometimes that some people can't see beyond having jobs. "We need jobs!!" they say. No we don't. An equal access, high technology system can provide us with what we need for free (eventually)...so no bills to pay Any thoughts?
Technology will never replace manpower in my job, no matter how advanced or clever it gets."What job do you do? And we have no idea what future technology will be capable of. Especially when we take into account robotics and artificial intelligence. I never believe someone who says something will never happen. History shows that they are almost always wrong. "We'll never go to the moon!"..."Flying machines?! Crazy talk!!". "Talking to people in a different country in real time!??...Crazy!!Science-fiction!" | |||
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The jobs that can't be automated fit into the high level and low level categories. There probably isn't much in the middle range.
You'll end up with an industry of things to keep people busy to use that work ethic or to stop them from committing mischief.
One of the reasons home working hasn't taken off as much as was assumed is that people like to get together.
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"There are many, many jobs that can't be done with technology. And it's only in the developed countries where this 'work ethic' can be transferred. In the rest of the world just being able to feed themselves is the most important thing. Well yes but in a free access system a lot of jobs done today wouldn't be needed. All that is basically needed is production of goods/food/homes/clean water etc...Delivery systems etc...Those can be automated largely. It's complex but in a free access system without labor for income there is no need for any financial or business based jobs. A lot of health issues have been linked to our current economic system. Increased anxiety, depression, suicide rates etc...bad food (processed foods for example), lower brain function in people raised in less equal societies at the lower rungs of the ladder etc... So less health based jobs would be needed due to the increase in good health in a better economic system. Yes people design technology and maintain it. Although increasingly as time goes on machines or advanced software could design and produce future tech. When it comes to maintenance, that could be done voluntarily which plenty of people would do (I would). People worldwide already do billions of hours worth of voluntary work so it's something people already do and it wouldn't be full-time. If we didn't have to work for what we need then plenty of people are interested in science and engineering so I'm 100% sure that there would be plenty of people who would work in those fields. Not because they need to pay the bills but because they are genuinely interested in various fields of science/engineering/medical care etc... There's more to it than just that obviously but I do hope that we let go of this idea of having to 'earn' a living. People say technology can't do all jobs but not all jobs need to be done and as time goes on technology becomes more advanced so just because it can't or isn't being done now, that doesn't mean it can't be done in the near(ish) future" In order for people to form a better opinion, can you please advise which website you are copy and pasting 'your' thoughts and ideals from? | |||
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"Work ethic is good....but "jobs" are different. We can have work ethic without jobs. I don't mean un-employed people. I mean as technology gets more advanced and takes over more jobs it should be seen as a good thing, so we can apply our work ethic to other things like your passions in life, sorting out the environment, better or real education etc... Some people like their job but other things can be found to be done which can be enjoyed, depending on your personal preference/interests. I think it's becoming clearer that we are heading, gradually, to a future without jobs (as technology does the jobs for us). Which means a future where we get paid for nothing (like Universal Basic Income) and then maybe even a world without barter as the automated factories produce what we need anyway so no need for barter. An equal access (free) system type of thing. Do you recognize the difference between work ethic and jobs? It worries me sometimes that some people can't see beyond having jobs. "We need jobs!!" they say. No we don't. An equal access, high technology system can provide us with what we need for free (eventually)...so no bills to pay Any thoughts?
Technology will never replace manpower in my job, no matter how advanced or clever it gets.
What job do you do? And we have no idea what future technology will be capable of. Especially when we take into account robotics and artificial intelligence.
I never believe someone who says something will never happen. History shows that they are almost always wrong.
"We'll never go to the moon!"..."Flying machines?! Crazy talk!!". "Talking to people in a different country in real time!??...Crazy!!Science-fiction!""In many ways you could be right. But I'm still pretty sure technology couldn't ever replace my job.  | |||
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"There are many, many jobs that can't be done with technology. And it's only in the developed countries where this 'work ethic' can be transferred. In the rest of the world just being able to feed themselves is the most important thing. Well yes but in a free access system a lot of jobs done today wouldn't be needed. All that is basically needed is production of goods/food/homes/clean water etc...Delivery systems etc...Those can be automated largely. It's complex but in a free access system without labor for income there is no need for any financial or business based jobs. A lot of health issues have been linked to our current economic system. Increased anxiety, depression, suicide rates etc...bad food (processed foods for example), lower brain function in people raised in less equal societies at the lower rungs of the ladder etc... So less health based jobs would be needed due to the increase in good health in a better economic system. Yes people design technology and maintain it. Although increasingly as time goes on machines or advanced software could design and produce future tech. When it comes to maintenance, that could be done voluntarily which plenty of people would do (I would). People worldwide already do billions of hours worth of voluntary work so it's something people already do and it wouldn't be full-time. If we didn't have to work for what we need then plenty of people are interested in science and engineering so I'm 100% sure that there would be plenty of people who would work in those fields. Not because they need to pay the bills but because they are genuinely interested in various fields of science/engineering/medical care etc... There's more to it than just that obviously but I do hope that we let go of this idea of having to 'earn' a living. People say technology can't do all jobs but not all jobs need to be done and as time goes on technology becomes more advanced so just because it can't or isn't being done now, that doesn't mean it can't be done in the near(ish) future In order for people to form a better opinion, can you please advise which website you are copy and pasting 'your' thoughts and ideals from? " I "might" just have lol'ed that..... | |||
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"There are many, many jobs that can't be done with technology. And it's only in the developed countries where this 'work ethic' can be transferred. In the rest of the world just being able to feed themselves is the most important thing. Well yes but in a free access system a lot of jobs done today wouldn't be needed. All that is basically needed is production of goods/food/homes/clean water etc...Delivery systems etc...Those can be automated largely. It's complex but in a free access system without labor for income there is no need for any financial or business based jobs. A lot of health issues have been linked to our current economic system. Increased anxiety, depression, suicide rates etc...bad food (processed foods for example), lower brain function in people raised in less equal societies at the lower rungs of the ladder etc... So less health based jobs would be needed due to the increase in good health in a better economic system. Yes people design technology and maintain it. Although increasingly as time goes on machines or advanced software could design and produce future tech. When it comes to maintenance, that could be done voluntarily which plenty of people would do (I would). People worldwide already do billions of hours worth of voluntary work so it's something people already do and it wouldn't be full-time. If we didn't have to work for what we need then plenty of people are interested in science and engineering so I'm 100% sure that there would be plenty of people who would work in those fields. Not because they need to pay the bills but because they are genuinely interested in various fields of science/engineering/medical care etc... There's more to it than just that obviously but I do hope that we let go of this idea of having to 'earn' a living. People say technology can't do all jobs but not all jobs need to be done and as time goes on technology becomes more advanced so just because it can't or isn't being done now, that doesn't mean it can't be done in the near(ish) future In order for people to form a better opinion, can you please advise which website you are copy and pasting 'your' thoughts and ideals from? " I did not claim these ideas were mine originally and I did not copy and paste anything. You have an assuming mind. So I will not post the website to the organisation which is trying to make it happen. If you ask more maturely then yes, no problem. It's better to question rather than assume. | |||
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"I've got visions of everyone turning into Comic Book Guy. I go to work to socialise, and I go to cafes and pubs for social interaction. I don't just 'earn a living' - I enjoy my job." Exactly. Socialising. That can be done without jobs and work can be done without it needing to be a way or earning a living. Work still needs to be done...but not to earn money to survive. You get access to what you need regardless. | |||
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"There are many, many jobs that can't be done with technology. And it's only in the developed countries where this 'work ethic' can be transferred. In the rest of the world just being able to feed themselves is the most important thing. Well yes but in a free access system a lot of jobs done today wouldn't be needed. All that is basically needed is production of goods/food/homes/clean water etc...Delivery systems etc...Those can be automated largely. It's complex but in a free access system without labor for income there is no need for any financial or business based jobs. A lot of health issues have been linked to our current economic system. Increased anxiety, depression, suicide rates etc...bad food (processed foods for example), lower brain function in people raised in less equal societies at the lower rungs of the ladder etc... So less health based jobs would be needed due to the increase in good health in a better economic system. Yes people design technology and maintain it. Although increasingly as time goes on machines or advanced software could design and produce future tech. When it comes to maintenance, that could be done voluntarily which plenty of people would do (I would). People worldwide already do billions of hours worth of voluntary work so it's something people already do and it wouldn't be full-time. If we didn't have to work for what we need then plenty of people are interested in science and engineering so I'm 100% sure that there would be plenty of people who would work in those fields. Not because they need to pay the bills but because they are genuinely interested in various fields of science/engineering/medical care etc... There's more to it than just that obviously but I do hope that we let go of this idea of having to 'earn' a living. People say technology can't do all jobs but not all jobs need to be done and as time goes on technology becomes more advanced so just because it can't or isn't being done now, that doesn't mean it can't be done in the near(ish) future In order for people to form a better opinion, can you please advise which website you are copy and pasting 'your' thoughts and ideals from? I did not claim these ideas were mine originally and I did not copy and paste anything. You have an assuming mind. So I will not post the website to the organisation which is trying to make it happen. If you ask more maturely then yes, no problem. It's better to question rather than assume. " It's rather obvious that you did copy and paste. Nice try though. | |||
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"There are many, many jobs that can't be done with technology. And it's only in the developed countries where this 'work ethic' can be transferred. In the rest of the world just being able to feed themselves is the most important thing. Well yes but in a free access system a lot of jobs done today wouldn't be needed. All that is basically needed is production of goods/food/homes/clean water etc...Delivery systems etc...Those can be automated largely. It's complex but in a free access system without labor for income there is no need for any financial or business based jobs. A lot of health issues have been linked to our current economic system. Increased anxiety, depression, suicide rates etc...bad food (processed foods for example), lower brain function in people raised in less equal societies at the lower rungs of the ladder etc... So less health based jobs would be needed due to the increase in good health in a better economic system. Yes people design technology and maintain it. Although increasingly as time goes on machines or advanced software could design and produce future tech. When it comes to maintenance, that could be done voluntarily which plenty of people would do (I would). People worldwide already do billions of hours worth of voluntary work so it's something people already do and it wouldn't be full-time. If we didn't have to work for what we need then plenty of people are interested in science and engineering so I'm 100% sure that there would be plenty of people who would work in those fields. Not because they need to pay the bills but because they are genuinely interested in various fields of science/engineering/medical care etc... There's more to it than just that obviously but I do hope that we let go of this idea of having to 'earn' a living. People say technology can't do all jobs but not all jobs need to be done and as time goes on technology becomes more advanced so just because it can't or isn't being done now, that doesn't mean it can't be done in the near(ish) future In order for people to form a better opinion, can you please advise which website you are copy and pasting 'your' thoughts and ideals from? I did not claim these ideas were mine originally and I did not copy and paste anything. You have an assuming mind. So I will not post the website to the organisation which is trying to make it happen. If you ask more maturely then yes, no problem. It's better to question rather than assume. It's rather obvious that you did copy and paste. Nice try though. " I didn't copy and paste. I also didn't come up with these ideas and didn't claim to. Those specific words I typed came from my own understanding of those things from what I've learned from various books/people etc... I think you're just not well informed therefore assume others are not well informed. We've never met so not sure why you're assuming to know my character. | |||
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"No machine will ever be able to do my job I use the machine to get the job done though "Never say never. It's usually wrong. If robotics can eventually engineer machines with human level capabilities (we are mechanical after all..biologically) then not sure what would stop it taking your job. | |||
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"We need a fairer world and better government systems, as I agree that technology will radically change job and employment prospects. More elderly people will require more care and benefit from contact with more people for good health. I can also imagine a more unfair system, the majority poor and with low life expectancies, the richer enjoying every privilege that their status gives them. " Yeh things may get worse before they get better but I'm optimistic in the long term at least | |||
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"No machine will ever be able to do my job I use the machine to get the job done though
Never say never. It's usually wrong.
If robotics can eventually engineer machines with human level capabilities (we are mechanical after all..biologically) then not sure what would stop it taking your job.
"Well, I'm going to say never. Never ever ever. Same with my hobby too funnily enough. | |||
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