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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Anyone like this pointless guff

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London


"Anyone like this pointless guff"

Have you studied it? Or just being a troll?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone like this pointless guff"

Why are you always so negative

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hope this thread just dies.

"goodnight sweet thread, and may flights of angels sing thee to thy sleep"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shakespeare was like totes incred. He came up with language and shit

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Anyone like this pointless guff

Have you studied it? Or just being a troll?"

In school yes , totally pointless + Latin , 2 or 3 people in the class pretended they liked it

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Hope this thread just dies.

"goodnight sweet thread, and may flights of angels sing thee to thy sleep""

What is your favorite ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Anyone like this pointless guff

Why are you always so negative "

No I'm not, I'm a happy person, must be you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hope this thread just dies.

"goodnight sweet thread, and may flights of angels sing thee to thy sleep"

What is your favorite ?

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Quote, thread, or play?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Hope this thread just dies.

"goodnight sweet thread, and may flights of angels sing thee to thy sleep"

What is your favorite ?

Quote, thread, or play?"

Yes get you google out

Ok

Why do you like it what inspires you about it ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

None of his stuff is as good as Twilight

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Shakespeare was like totes incred. He came up with language and shit"

He was an intelligent wordsmith and 400 years ago I'm sure he was fab

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hope this thread just dies.

"goodnight sweet thread, and may flights of angels sing thee to thy sleep"

What is your favorite ?

The fact a man (or men) was able to inspire and effect a whole language, the ability to swing from high art to vulgar jokes. And there's something pleasing about sharing this incredible body of work with everyone that shares this language.

Quote, thread, or play?

Yes get you google out

Ok

Why do you like it what inspires you about it ?"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Ohh and I've done 100's of hours of Shakespeare at school

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Favourite play - Midsummer's Nights Dream (I played puck)

Favourite quote - "he is but mad north by northwest, when the wind blows East he'll know a hawk from a handsaw" hamlet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Shakespeare was like totes incred. He came up with language and shit

He was an intelligent wordsmith and 400 years ago I'm sure he was fab "

I don't know if he's all that. The've never asked him to make any sequels.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ohh and I've done 100's of hours of Shakespeare at school "

Is that why you don't like it? I agree there is a problem with how it's taught.

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By *cd and scruffCouple
over a year ago

Rochester

who needs sequels when the originals are still going after 400 years.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Favourite play - Midsummer's Nights Dream (I played puck)

Favourite quote - "he is but mad north by northwest, when the wind blows East he'll know a hawk from a handsaw" hamlet"

Was this a public school ?

Why that quote ?

I'm happy others don't think it's shit, it's your choice

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By *ali 69Man
over a year ago

jersey

Not one car chase or a bird taking her top off !

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ohh and I've done 100's of hours of Shakespeare at school

Is that why you don't like it? I agree there is a problem with how it's taught."

Rammed into us (ooh err) until even the mention of if makes me want to throw something

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not one car chase or a bird taking her top off ! "

Bit low on explosions too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Favourite play - Midsummer's Nights Dream (I played puck)

Favourite quote - "he is but mad north by northwest, when the wind blows East he'll know a hawk from a handsaw" hamlet

Was this a public school ?

Why that quote ?

I'm happy others don't think it's shit, it's your choice "

A comp next to an estate.

As for the quote, dunno, maybe the rhythm? It's a fun use of language to day a simple thing, and most likely it one of the very few that have stuck in my dyslexic brain.

I can understand people not liking it, but "pointless" was a bit harsh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I enjoy Shakespeare's work. It's like Eastenders,back in olden times. Or TOWIE. Or MIC.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ohh and I've done 100's of hours of Shakespeare at school

Is that why you don't like it? I agree there is a problem with how it's taught.

Rammed into us (ooh err) until even the mention of if makes me want to throw something "

Yeah I always despair at that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not one car chase or a bird taking her top off !

Bit low on explosions too"

Sword fights and murder, quite a bit of sauce too if you stick with it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I enjoy Shakespeare's work. It's like Eastenders,back in olden times. Or TOWIE. Or MIC. "

With better settings of course.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I enjoy Shakespeare's work. It's like Eastenders,back in olden times. Or TOWIE. Or MIC. "
Mark Francis acts like he's from Shakespeare lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Shakespeare was like totes incred. He came up with language and shit

He was an intelligent wordsmith and 400 years ago I'm sure he was fab "

Oh for a moment I thought you said he was on "fab". Would make an interesting twist to Romeo and Juliet.

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By *ali 69Man
over a year ago

jersey


"Not one car chase or a bird taking her top off !

Bit low on explosions too

Sword fights and murder, quite a bit of sauce too if you stick with it"
Hmmmm, maybe . Howabout if they got Dnny Dyer to beef up the diologue " 'ere Juliet , you slaaaaaaaag ! You've mugged me off like a two bob , intcha ? ! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ohh and I've done 100's of hours of Shakespeare at school "

I wasn't aware it was on the curriculum...

There is currently a debate as to whether it should be taught in schools...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not one car chase or a bird taking her top off !

Bit low on explosions too

Sword fights and murder, quite a bit of sauce too if you stick with it Hmmmm, maybe . Howabout if they got Dnny Dyer to beef up the diologue " 'ere Juliet , you slaaaaaaaag ! You've mugged me off like a two bob , intcha ? ! " "

If Danny Dyer can make Eastenders bearable, he can do anything.

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester


"Shakespeare was like totes incred. He came up with language and shit

He was an intelligent wordsmith and 400 years ago I'm sure he was fab

Oh for a moment I thought you said he was on "fab". Would make an interesting twist to Romeo and Juliet."

They were too young to be on here.

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By *ali 69Man
over a year ago

jersey


"Not one car chase or a bird taking her top off !

Bit low on explosions too

Sword fights and murder, quite a bit of sauce too if you stick with it Hmmmm, maybe . Howabout if they got Dnny Dyer to beef up the diologue " 'ere Juliet , you slaaaaaaaag ! You've mugged me off like a two bob , intcha ? ! "

If Danny Dyer can make Eastenders bearable, he can do anything."
there's nowt old danny couldn't do to bring the bard to the people " a horse , a horse , ahhhve just bunged a monkey on a horse at chepstow ! "

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow


"who needs sequels when the originals are still going after 400 years."

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ohh and I've done 100's of hours of Shakespeare at school

I wasn't aware it was on the curriculum...

There is currently a debate as to whether it should be taught in schools..."

Was in my school , I should never be, a bit like algebra (and I went on to do a maths degree) pointless

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow


"Anyone like this pointless guff"

He'll be gutted,with such a literary critique.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not one car chase or a bird taking her top off !

Bit low on explosions too

Sword fights and murder, quite a bit of sauce too if you stick with it Hmmmm, maybe . Howabout if they got Dnny Dyer to beef up the diologue " 'ere Juliet , you slaaaaaaaag ! You've mugged me off like a two bob , intcha ? ! "

If Danny Dyer can make Eastenders bearable, he can do anything. there's nowt old danny couldn't do to bring the bard to the people " a horse , a horse , ahhhve just bunged a monkey on a horse at chepstow ! " "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I enjoy Shakespeare's work. It's like Eastenders,back in olden times. Or TOWIE. Or MIC. Mark Francis acts like he's from Shakespeare lol"

Oh he's a luvvie!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Keeps the fire burning bright.

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By *arkstaffsMan
over a year ago

Rugeley

Thought this thread was about a pub in Brum. Not a bad pint either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like his sister.

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By *0tt0nSu3Woman
over a year ago

London


"Anyone like this pointless guff"

I like Shakespeare.

It's Charles Dickens I can't bloody stand. Why take damned bloody THREE pages to say what could be said in one damned bloody PARAGRAPH?

Time is ticking, Charlie boy.... Get a bloody move on and just SAY WHAT YOU MEAN!!!!

REALLY!!!

I used to twitch so much in anger in my English Lit classes. So much so, I thought I was going to spontaneously combust....

Did I say I hated Dickens?

I think I did....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone like this pointless guff"

Yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone like this pointless guff

I like Shakespeare.

It's Charles Dickens I can't bloody stand. Why take damned bloody THREE pages to say what could be said in one damned bloody PARAGRAPH?

Time is ticking, Charlie boy.... Get a bloody move on and just SAY WHAT YOU MEAN!!!!

REALLY!!!

I used to twitch so much in anger in my English Lit classes. So much so, I thought I was going to spontaneously combust....

Did I say I hated Dickens?

I think I did.... "

That's because his writing was serialised and he got paid by the word.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not one car chase or a bird taking her top off !

Bit low on explosions too

Sword fights and murder, quite a bit of sauce too if you stick with it Hmmmm, maybe . Howabout if they got Dnny Dyer to beef up the diologue " 'ere Juliet , you slaaaaaaaag ! You've mugged me off like a two bob , intcha ? ! "

If Danny Dyer can make Eastenders bearable, he can do anything."

No one can make Westbenders bearable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone like this pointless guff

I like Shakespeare.

It's Charles Dickens I can't bloody stand. Why take damned bloody THREE pages to say what could be said in one damned bloody PARAGRAPH?

Time is ticking, Charlie boy.... Get a bloody move on and just SAY WHAT YOU MEAN!!!!

REALLY!!!

I used to twitch so much in anger in my English Lit classes. So much so, I thought I was going to spontaneously combust....

Did I say I hated Dickens?

I think I did.... "

Yes! Yes! Me too! Bloody irritating.

I never understood Shakespeare, so didn't like it as a result. But now I love it. I try to go to see a decent production as often at possible; that's what gives it meaning for me.

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By *0tt0nSu3Woman
over a year ago

London


"I enjoy Shakespeare's work. It's like Eastenders,back in olden times. Or TOWIE. Or MIC. "

That's why I like King Lear so much. It deals with the issue of how to deal with an ageing parent, their assets, how it is bestowed onto the children and the consequences of those actions, which is still very relevant today.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Anyone like this pointless guff"

To some it is pointless and nonsense. To others he is England's finest writer.

To some The Sun is pointless guff. To most sane people it makes excellent toilet paper.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

On my bucket list to read a whole Shakespeare play and get it. Dropped A level English Lit as one of the books was Richard the Third. It made no sense to me at all.

Went to see it at the Old Vic...left as clueless as I arrived. I remember a Blackadder sketch where Edmund meets Shakespeare and whacks him on behalf of future generations of school children who have to study his work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On my bucket list to read a whole Shakespeare play and get it. Dropped A level English Lit as one of the books was Richard the Third. It made no sense to me at all.

Went to see it at the Old Vic...left as clueless as I arrived. I remember a Blackadder sketch where Edmund meets Shakespeare and whacks him on behalf of future generations of school children who have to study his work.

"

Try a comedy or Midsummer Nights Dream x

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By *0tt0nSu3Woman
over a year ago

London


"Anyone like this pointless guff

I like Shakespeare.

It's Charles Dickens I can't bloody stand. Why take damned bloody THREE pages to say what could be said in one damned bloody PARAGRAPH?

Time is ticking, Charlie boy.... Get a bloody move on and just SAY WHAT YOU MEAN!!!!

REALLY!!!

I used to twitch so much in anger in my English Lit classes. So much so, I thought I was going to spontaneously combust....

Did I say I hated Dickens?

I think I did....

Yes! Yes! Me too! Bloody irritating.

I never understood Shakespeare, so didn't like it as a result. But now I love it. I try to go to see a decent production as often at possible; that's what gives it meaning for me. "

If you've got an afternoon or an evening free in London then go to the Globe Theatre. Do NOT take the posh seats. Take the yard tickets. They use the crowd in front as part of the stage and you get involved in the production. Sometimes they even use the crowd as a prop in market/fair scenes! Magic!

There's been quite a few Shakespeare plays I have NEVER read before seeing it performed there and I've picked up what's going on in less than 7 minutes.

And even if you don't like the play, or its crap weather, then you can sod off to the pub. You've only lost a fiver for the ticket. Cheapest afternoon/evening out in London you can get.

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By *0tt0nSu3Woman
over a year ago

London


"Anyone like this pointless guff

I like Shakespeare.

It's Charles Dickens I can't bloody stand. Why take damned bloody THREE pages to say what could be said in one damned bloody PARAGRAPH?

Time is ticking, Charlie boy.... Get a bloody move on and just SAY WHAT YOU MEAN!!!!

REALLY!!!

I used to twitch so much in anger in my English Lit classes. So much so, I thought I was going to spontaneously combust....

Did I say I hated Dickens?

I think I did....

That's because his writing was serialised and he got paid by the word."

I know, I know....

But I was still one tortured kid! It was painful, I tell ya. Painful....

Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"who needs sequels when the originals are still going after 400 years."

Spot on.

Also, according to Shakespeare online, he contributed over 1700 words to the English language. I'm not 100% sure I even know 1700 words.

Well done Mr Shakespeare! If you were still, about i'd definitely let you have a go on my Mrs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are off to see A Midsummer Night's Dream this summer in Stratford Upon Avon.

If you watched Shakespeare Live last night, Ian McKellen, Judy Dench, David Tennant and Paapa Essiedu stood out to me.

It's not for everyone, as many writers aren't, but he has certainly stood the test of time for many of us.

Sarah

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"I don't know if he's all that. The've never asked him to make any sequels. "

He did sequels

Julius Caesar part 2: Anthony and Cleopatra

Loves Labours Lost part 2: Loves Labours Won

Henry IV Part 2

Henry VI Parts 2 and 3

Some of his plays were a bit meh (Twelfth Night, Two Gentlemen of Verona, Measure for Measure), but overall the Bard did pretty good.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I'm not a huge fan of Shakespeare either, I can appreciate some of his writing and his huge contribution to the English language but I'm not sure it should be compulsory to enjoy his work just because it's the done thing and I'll be darned if I'm going to pretend. I'm not all that keen on Latin either but my knowledge of that and Shakespeare has and does help even now 40+ years after leaving school.

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By *cduck and Blue eyesCouple
over a year ago

nr chester

What I find quite strange is that so many people seem not to find Shakespeare interesting, so many were bored by him at school, so many claim never to have been able to understand his work and yet so many use his Words in everyday phrases, perhaps they don't even realise, but none the less he is and always has been part of our culture and language, love him or loathe him, I don't think he will be going anywhere, anytime soon

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

Some of the language in the modern world is outdated, however the modern versions/phrase interpretation exsist because he contributed them, his work as stood the test of time because it plays to basic emotional states of being we all experience and therefore relate to eg love, jealousy etc

Love him or hate him you can't deny that he knew how to write to relate to an audience and write it well

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I like his work.

Due to the language I found I could not understand the plots when I was younger.

He lives on because of the era in which he wrote. No more. And of course because he is studied in Universities and lauded by both the knowledgeable and non knowing.

I tend to see at least one of his works each year. I have lost count of the number of interpretatioins of Macbeth I have seen.

This year I will visit Chester Open Air theatre yet again. I have tickets for 'As you like it' in July. However it's a 'day out' , 'fun' , a picnic , and close up , live theatre just as much as it is a play be The Bard.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

P.S. Take it from me.

The average 15 year old today, knows more words than even existed in Shakespearian times.

He never had a lot of competition now - did he?

He's just some bloke that wrote popular plays with great twists and human darkness and frivolity.

It isn't a mark of high intelligence or high culture to enjoy Shakespeare.

He's the Corry writer of his day. POPULAR culture.

shits n giggles for the people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone like this pointless guff

Why are you always so negative

No I'm not, I'm a happy person, must be you "

I'm inclined to agree with you being very negative in forums

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Anyone like this pointless guff

Why are you always so negative

No I'm not, I'm a happy person, must be you

I'm inclined to agree with you being very negative in forums"

That's two of you have made a personal comment ABOUT the poster.

The O.P. asked about Shakespeare and not liking him doesn't make them negative.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know if he's all that. The've never asked him to make any sequels.

He did sequels

Julius Caesar part 2: Anthony and Cleopatra

Loves Labours Lost part 2: Loves Labours Won

Henry IV Part 2

Henry VI Parts 2 and 3

Some of his plays were a bit meh (Twelfth Night, Two Gentlemen of Verona, Measure for Measure), but overall the Bard did pretty good."

Taketh back thy vile words! Twelfth Night is the best of Shakespeare

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By *ervent_fervourMan
over a year ago

Halifax

He's brilliant. I agree forcing him down the throats of some kids is totally counter productive.

Unless we can get a change in teaching styles and assessment. Then new life could be breathed into study of him.

Fucking can't stand Romeo though, the irritating little prick.

Hate the cliche that he's be writing Eastenders. NO he fucking wouldn't. I'm thinking more Jimmy McGovern or for Ken Loach, or Ianucci perhaps type stuff if for television/film. But he'd probably still be writing for the theatre as his stuff is so dense with ideas and feeling and plotting. So yeah, I suppose some series or other.

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By *ervent_fervourMan
over a year ago

Halifax


"I don't know if he's all that. The've never asked him to make any sequels.

He did sequels

Julius Caesar part 2: Anthony and Cleopatra

Loves Labours Lost part 2: Loves Labours Won

Henry IV Part 2

Henry VI Parts 2 and 3

Some of his plays were a bit meh (Twelfth Night, Two Gentlemen of Verona, Measure for Measure), but overall the Bard did pretty good.

Taketh back thy vile words! Twelfth Night is the best of Shakespeare "

OTHELLO! Always Othello!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,will stand a tip toe when this day is named,and rouse him at the name of Crispian.

He that shall live this day, and see old age,will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,and say "Tomorrow is Saint Crispian."

Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,and say "These wounds I had on Crispin's day."

Old men forget, yet all shall be forgot,but he'll remember, with advantages,what feats he did that day.

Then shall our names,familiar in his mouth as household words—

Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester be in their flowing cups freshly remembered.

This story shall the good man teach his son, and Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by.

From this day to the ending of the world,but we in it shall be remembered.

We few, we happy few, we band of brothers, for he today that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother, be he ne'er so vile.

This day shall gentle his condition, and gentlemen in England now aney shall think themselves accursed they were not here,and hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks, that fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone like this pointless guff"

Load of shite

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just out of interest OP, which authors/playwrites do you like?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone like this pointless guff

Why are you always so negative

No I'm not, I'm a happy person, must be you

I'm inclined to agree with you being very negative in forums

That's two of you have made a personal comment ABOUT the poster.

The O.P. asked about Shakespeare and not liking him doesn't make them negative."

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I prefer cava to champagne

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I prefer cava to champagne "

Me too

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

When you've read and really got into some of his work deeply you can find a different conclusion. I've been thoroughly appreciative of some amazing work.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

rather appropriate for this weekend being st georges day and the bards birthday and 400th aniversary of his death

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-yZNMWFqvM

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be honest at school I hated Shakespeare too, it was all just rubbish to me. It was after I left and I got the chance to perform it and study it myself that I came to appreciate and love it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the school system does Shakespeare an injustice. It should emphasise the historical and linguistic significance of his writing rather than trying to force his plays on those that simply will never enjoy them.

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster


"I think the school system does Shakespeare an injustice. It should emphasise the historical and linguistic significance of his writing rather than trying to force his plays on those that simply will never enjoy them."

Depends on the school/choice of study we were taught the linguistic significance of it. We also looked at that while studying Chaucer (whom I prefer) but I chose to take English literature not just English

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By *ervent_fervourMan
over a year ago

Halifax


"I think the school system does Shakespeare an injustice. It should emphasise the historical and linguistic significance of his writing rather than trying to force his plays on those that simply will never enjoy them.

Depends on the school/choice of study we were taught the linguistic significance of it. We also looked at that while studying Chaucer (whom I prefer) but I chose to take English literature not just English"

Agree wholeheartedly. I've always loved books, reading them and discussing them, even throughout my time at Secondary. We were made to study him from,what, the age of about 12 and he always, broadly speaking, didn't really turn me on(apart from when the teacher guided us to talk about context and stuff which removed the ball ache of wading through the text) until at least A level, and then at university and beyond.

He is amazing, but unless you have someone gifted at unpicking him for you then students/readers are really missing out big time.

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