FabSwingers.com forum: Would've vs Would of

By *imited 3Edition OP Couple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England

It really stands out to me when someone's written 'would of' instead of 'would've'...anyone know why they get it wrong?

I'm not an English teacher but it just confuses me when I come across it so wondered if anyone else notices it too?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I never noticed people doing this until I took a linguistic anthropology class in university.

My professor pointed it out to us as a modern example of a natural evolution in language. It's basically quicker to say, it is easier and rolls off the tongue. Think of how you and others talk. It often comes out as "would of" and this eventually leads to it being written that way, too.

It happens most often with frequently used words - the same reason that many commonly used verbs (like "to be") in other languages have irregular conjugations.

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By *ikki ShooterTV/TS
over a year ago

Epsom

All too often, but like you I'm not a grammar teacher. As long as I don't receive text speak I'm still likely to reply x

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By *a petite madameWoman
over a year ago

London / Essex

I had a teacher at school who used to go nuts when any of us made this mistake.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's incredibly irritating. Would of, should of, could of. It's a sign they haven't thought at all about what they're actually trying to say, otherwise it would be obvious that it's the wrong fucking word.

I think it's becoming endemic though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People who have poor written literary skills will just take words they hear and recognise and assume that's correct when typing.

Would of and Would've sound the same when spoken (in most accents), so they just type what they say.

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

Would have, not of.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always write would have ...

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

it sounds like "would of" when you say "would've" its an easy mistake to make but it does make me go

I'm not hugely keen on "discrete" when they mean "discreet" but its pretty low on my list of irritants

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By *uriousc88Woman
over a year ago

Reading

I'd hazard a guess that, as spoken English is becoming more relaxed, people are less aware that it's an abbreviation of "would have", and therefore write it as it sounds.

Language is always changing, especially as society becomes more open/communication becomes more global, as people are exposed to different languages this becomes visible in the common language.

I both like and dislike this, to be honest!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I never noticed people doing this until I took a linguistic anthropology class in university.

It happens most often with frequently used words - the same reason that many commonly used verbs (like "to be") in other languages have irregular conjugations."
There's an irregular conjunction on the A38.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

have and of sound similar.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Woulda, shoulda, coulda

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By *ikki ShooterTV/TS
over a year ago

Epsom

And what's with "that'll learn you"

Aaaaahhh it's "that will teach you." bloody moron I'm related to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And what's with "that'll learn you""

That gets right on my tits! When people actually say that, I just want to slap them in the mouth.

And saying 'f' instead of 'th'. or english people trying to pronouce welsh place names with the 'll' sound saying 'cl'. NO!

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

Depends on how formal you want to sound.

I would've had more cake

I would have had more cake

I'm happy to get messages that aren't in 'text speak'

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT

"And what's with "that'll learn you"

Aaaaahhh it's "that will teach you." bloody moron I'm related to. "

In a similar vein...i'll borrow you that. Oh...you'll lend me that?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I never noticed people doing this until I took a linguistic anthropology class in university.

It happens most often with frequently used words - the same reason that many commonly used verbs (like "to be") in other languages have irregular conjugations."
also easier to miss the silly letter 'u' out of colour?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Depends on how formal you want to sound.

I would've had more cake

I would have had more cake

I'm happy to get messages that aren't in 'text speak'

Be honest - you just want cake...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And what's with "that'll learn you"

Aaaaahhh it's "that will teach you." bloody moron I'm related to. "

That's quite a bristolian thing I think. I have been guilty of saying that but in doing so I knew it was grammatically incorrect.

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By *piritsonfabCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

In casual conversation it's neither here nor there, but it always makes me realise I would be unlikely to ever form a relationship with someone who didn't know the difference.

Same as putting apostrophes where they shouldn't be.....

However the amount of "professionally" produced signs which have errors is amazing and scary!!!

I genuinely struggle to understand some errors and once had an embarrassing moment in a shop where the guy said "free" when he meant three (pounds)!!!

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

I make mistakes like that, all the time. My grammar and punctuation arent great, either.

Shoot me! *faces the wall ready*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't care

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I never noticed people doing this until I took a linguistic anthropology class in university.

It happens most often with frequently used words - the same reason that many commonly used verbs (like "to be") in other languages have irregular conjugations. also easier to miss the silly letter 'u' out of colour?

Yes. Just like that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was asked how to spell 'wotal', eh? I asked.. He was writing home, he wanted to say. 'please send gloves wotal fit'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bloodypointlessshanagansanyhalfwitwitharemotebitofinteligancecanworkoutanythingregardless.

Evne fi uoy spiel ti sheitly.

Ain't brains great

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

I don't care if people say it. But writing it like that is like nails down a blackboard to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can understand why people write it.....but it annoys me that the basics of language seem to be missing with many....however it doesn't bother me as much as people mispronouncing "h" as "haitch"! That makes me want to kill them a little bit.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"it sounds like "would of" when you say "would've" its an easy mistake to make but it does make me go

I'm not hugely keen on "discrete" when they mean "discreet" but its pretty low on my list of irritants

And compliment when complement is meant.

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By *r H and Good PetCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

It's because "would've" and "would of" sound very similar acoustically. I think it's a very natural mistake to make. It's a mistake, but understandably made.

When I was a kid I thought the first part of "Where are my shoes" and "Where am I going" were composed of the same words.

I also thought "sealing wax" was "ceiling wax" (like the opposite of floor wax).

People make mistakes. Just correct them if you feel the need, and move on.

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By *r H and Good PetCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

English spelling is just a load of ghoti anyway.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I can understand why people write it.....but it annoys me that the basics of language seem to be missing with many....however it doesn't bother me as much as people mispronouncing "h" as "haitch"! That makes me want to kill them a little bit."

That is the one that is the nails down the blackboard feeling for me. It is also endemic now; I heard a Radio 4 announcer using it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I pronounce it as 'haitch'

That's how it's supposed to be pronounced as far as I'm concerned

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By *r H and Good PetCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

Wait, what's wrong with saying "haitch"?

It literally starts with an "h". Lol

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By *ed LipstickWoman
over a year ago

Fucksville

Ooo ooo how about I'm and am?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It should be ... Would have.

Therefore the correct shortened (lazy) form is ... Would've

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Funny but being dyslexic I find it easier to write how I speak so I would be guilty of this grammar error. My sincerest apologies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Funny but being dyslexic I find it easier to write how I speak so I would be guilty of this grammar error. My sincerest apologies. "

Which is perfectly fine

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Everyone knows it's wudduv

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wait, what's wrong with saying "haitch"?

It literally starts with an "h". Lol

Exactly

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Wait, what's wrong with saying "haitch"?

It literally starts with an "h". Lol

Exactly

But ell starts with an e.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wait, what's wrong with saying "haitch"?

It literally starts with an "h". Lol

Exactly

But ell starts with an e.

As does erb

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wait, what's wrong with saying "haitch"?

It literally starts with an "h". Lol

Exactly

But ell starts with an e.

As does erb

That isn't a letter though#!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wait, what's wrong with saying "haitch"?

It literally starts with an "h". Lol

Exactly

But ell starts with an e.

As does erb

That isn't a letter though#!"

OK. W starts with a D

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wait, what's wrong with saying "haitch"?

It literally starts with an "h". Lol

Exactly

But ell starts with an e.

As does erb

That isn't a letter though#!"

Ell isn't a letter either. L is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wait, what's wrong with saying "haitch"?

It literally starts with an "h". Lol

Exactly

But ell starts with an e.

As does erb

That isn't a letter though#!

OK. W starts with a D

Exactly. So you've lost your argument right there! H doesn't start with a "h" like many other letters don't start with that letter!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wait, what's wrong with saying "haitch"?

It literally starts with an "h". Lol

Exactly

But ell starts with an e.

As does erb

That isn't a letter though#!

Ell isn't a letter either. L is

I don't know of a letter in the English alphabet that is pronounced "erb". Perhaps you would care to enlighten me??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wait, what's wrong with saying "haitch"?

It literally starts with an "h". Lol

Exactly

But ell starts with an e.

As does erb

That isn't a letter though#!

OK. W starts with a D

Exactly. So you've lost your argument right there! H doesn't start with a "h" like many other letters don't start with that letter!"

It was a joke, not an argument. I pronounce it like it's supposed to be pronounced.

Hospital as opposed to ospital, hotel as opposed to otel etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wait, what's wrong with saying "haitch"?

It literally starts with an "h". Lol

Exactly

But ell starts with an e.

As does erb

That isn't a letter though#!

Ell isn't a letter either. L is

I don't know of a letter in the English alphabet that is pronounced "erb". Perhaps you would care to enlighten me??"

Read my post above. I didn't realise 'ell' was supposed to be the letter L. I actually thought she meant hell. Don't treat me like a thick please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wait, what's wrong with saying "haitch"?

It literally starts with an "h". Lol

Exactly

But ell starts with an e.

As does erb

That isn't a letter though#!

Ell isn't a letter either. L is

I don't know of a letter in the English alphabet that is pronounced "erb". Perhaps you would care to enlighten me??

Read my post above. I didn't realise 'ell' was supposed to be the letter L. I actually thought she meant hell. Don't treat me like a thick please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wait, what's wrong with saying "haitch"?

It literally starts with an "h". Lol

Exactly

But ell starts with an e.

As does erb

That isn't a letter though#!

Ell isn't a letter either. L is

I don't know of a letter in the English alphabet that is pronounced "erb". Perhaps you would care to enlighten me??

Read my post above. I didn't realise 'ell' was supposed to be the letter L. I actually thought she meant hell. Don't treat me like a thick please

Great, appreciate it

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Bee

See

Dee

Eff

Gee

Aitch

Eye

Jay

Kay

Ell

Pee

Kew

Arr

Ess

Tee

You

Vee

Double you

Eks

Why

Zed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would love to understand correct usage of words and punctuation , but I find it hard enough to spell correctly . I don't always understand important letters and have to have a lot of help with forms , so I am just grateful to be able to get my point across and hopefully people understand what I am trying to convey . I find that more important than anything

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT

However the amount of "professionally" produced signs which have errors is amazing and scary!!!

A B&M has opened in the next town. I was dismayed to see their stationery section labelled as the stationary section.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ay

Bee

See

Dee

Eff

Gee

Aitch

Eye

Jay

Kay

Ell

Pee

Kew

Arr

Ess

Tee

You

Vee

Double you

Eks

Why

Zed

I don't know why buy I read every single one of these in my head in a Brummie accent.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

A recent phenomenon I've noticed is the fucking stupid use of question marks.

"Your pictures made me horny ??"

" I would love to fuck you??"

...for example.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I couldnt care less what people think of my grammar and spelling

I would have written would have as abbreviating just shows laziness

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A recent phenomenon I've noticed is the fucking stupid use of question marks.

"Your pictures made me horny ??"

" I would love to fuck you??"

...for example."

I noticed this the other day! I think it's when someone puts a wink emoji at the end of a sentence and some phones can't display emojis correctly, so it appears as ?? for some strange reason

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"A recent phenomenon I've noticed is the fucking stupid use of question marks.

"Your pictures made me horny ??"

" I would love to fuck you??"

...for example.

I noticed this the other day! I think it's when someone puts a wink emoji at the end of a sentence and some phones can't display emojis correctly, so it appears as ?? for some strange reason"

I didn't know that. Thanks, but what dumb arse phones they must be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A recent phenomenon I've noticed is the fucking stupid use of question marks.

"Your pictures made me horny ??"

" I would love to fuck you??"

...for example.

I noticed this the other day! I think it's when someone puts a wink emoji at the end of a sentence and some phones can't display emojis correctly, so it appears as ?? for some strange reason

I didn't know that. Thanks, but what dumb arse phones they must be."

It's also what non site supporters get when they try to add an emoji

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A recent phenomenon I've noticed is the fucking stupid use of question marks.

"Your pictures made me horny ??"

" I would love to fuck you??"

...for example.

I noticed this the other day! I think it's when someone puts a wink emoji at the end of a sentence and some phones can't display emojis correctly, so it appears as ?? for some strange reason

I didn't know that. Thanks, but what dumb arse phones they must be.

It's also what non site supporters get when they try to add an emoji"

Well that explains about a third of my inbox!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It stands out when speaking too. It's a pity, as I think many speakers haven't got the certainty of understanding what they are actually meaning/saying.

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