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"Over here, ready to spout off in support of his mate Dave. Spokesman just been on Breakfast TV. Actually said we would be "more democratic" inside the EU? That the EU "supports democracy" You really cannot get anymore hypocritical than that! Damn cheek anyway, telling us how to vote in our own country. What would happen if our politicians went over to the states and encouraged everyone there to vote for Trump? I'm sure O'Barmy would be fine with that!" Aye, terrible, US presidents interfering eh? Wasn't that when the same folk complaining about it we're inviting his comments and interference for the Scottish Ref. Personally laughing like fuck at this EU ref. Comedy gold. F | |||
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"I find it odd that the future of a country as tiny as the UK is being discussed by the US president. I have a feeling he's humouring Cameron and really couldn't give a shit." 
These commentators who say that people are telling us how to vote make me laugh and it's these people that are bieng condensating. The whole point is that nobody can tell us how to vote.
Everyone has one vote. Johnson, Cameron, you, me, Farage et all. They all count exactly the same.
Politicians can talk all the shite they like but in the end it's up to us.
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"I think it would be negligent if he wasn't clear with us, about his view as President. The referendum will potentially have major significance and ramifications for us and for other countries. The UK could be viewed as one of the most significant US allies and contacts into Europe for the USA and thus it will impact upon that country. As it stands, the US has each state with major differences between them and he already has some parallel responsibilities over there. Sleep walking into a nightmare scenario isn't good, if you could be awoken and led to safety. Top man!" . . . The guy should be more concerned that the foreign office is now issuing travel advice on the USA for UK citizens. That's embarrassing! | |||
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"Yes it's up to us ultimately but many of 'us' take what they read in the press and on TV as gospel. Most of that, or a large proportion at least, is driven by agenda and not impartial. F" .. I haven't actually seen one pro brexit TV programme, all I've actually seen is alot of pro EU "facts". It's not that I'm bothered, it's more that I don't think it will make the slightest bit of difference. We've got this " belief " installed in human culture now that "business and trade" is the fucking b all and end all of fucking everything!... What we've actually lost focus on is the point that business and trade is a tool that's meant to be used for the progress of society and human welfare. It's not become this machine of control of society and human welfare | |||
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"I think it would be negligent if he wasn't clear with us, about his view as President. The referendum will potentially have major significance and ramifications for us and for other countries. The UK could be viewed as one of the most significant US allies and contacts into Europe for the USA and thus it will impact upon that country. As it stands, the US has each state with major differences between them and he already has some parallel responsibilities over there. Sleep walking into a nightmare scenario isn't good, if you could be awoken and led to safety. Top man!. . . The guy should be more concerned that the foreign office is now issuing travel advice on the USA for UK citizens. That's embarrassing!" Yes, he should only focus on one thing at a time. so while that travel advice is in place all other topics cease to matter.  | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama " Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. | |||
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"Imagine the harrumphing that would go on if when asked he had said, 'who cares'.. If anyone is wavering and their view is decided by one persons opinion, even someone as important globally as Obama then crack on.. " . What if it were Donald trumps opinion as president?. We tend to base whether somebody's opinions are good on their image and not on their record!. Obama is just another establishment politican, his opinion could be completely different but his public statement will ALWAYS be.... Business as usual | |||
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"I find it odd that the future of a country as tiny as the UK is being discussed by the US president. I have a feeling he's humouring Cameron and really couldn't give a shit." Landmass doesnt really dictate much. And also the uk is the key to europe for america in any future war just like it was in ww2. You aint gonna mount an invasion across the Atlantic you need a close base | |||
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"Imagine the harrumphing that would go on if when asked he had said, 'who cares'.. If anyone is wavering and their view is decided by one persons opinion, even someone as important globally as Obama then crack on.. . What if it were Donald trumps opinion as president?. We tend to base whether somebody's opinions are good on their image and not on their record!. Obama is just another establishment politican, his opinion could be completely different but his public statement will ALWAYS be.... Business as usual" it would be equally a 'quelle surprise' moment.. people will give gravitas to how they are inclined politically with the question in hand and some yes to how they perceive his tenure to have been again that view will be swayed by their own 'politics'.. lets be honest some may not even know whom he is.. personally on such as this referendum i would have included 16 and 17 year old's and made it compulsory to vote .. | |||
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"Imagine the harrumphing that would go on if when asked he had said, 'who cares'.. If anyone is wavering and their view is decided by one persons opinion, even someone as important globally as Obama then crack on.. . What if it were Donald trumps opinion as president?. We tend to base whether somebody's opinions are good on their image and not on their record!. Obama is just another establishment politican, his opinion could be completely different but his public statement will ALWAYS be.... Business as usual it would be equally a 'quelle surprise' moment.. people will give gravitas to how they are inclined politically with the question in hand and some yes to how they perceive his tenure to have been again that view will be swayed by their own 'politics'.. lets be honest some may not even know whom he is.. personally on such as this referendum i would have included 16 and 17 year old's and made it compulsory to vote .. " . The idea is to turn people OFF politics otherwise they wouldn't be the establishment!. The Swiss have some of the most progressive democracy in the world and low and behold they do rather well with it!. A TRUE democracy would avoid wars like the plague but an establishment oligarchy will always use it as just another tool in the chest | |||
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"I think it would be negligent if he wasn't clear with us, about his view as President. The referendum will potentially have major significance and ramifications for us and for other countries. The UK could be viewed as one of the most significant US allies and contacts into Europe for the USA and thus it will impact upon that country. As it stands, the US has each state with major differences between them and he already has some parallel responsibilities over there. Sleep walking into a nightmare scenario isn't good, if you could be awoken and led to safety. Top man!. . . The guy should be more concerned that the foreign office is now issuing travel advice on the USA for UK citizens. That's embarrassing! Yes, he should only focus on one thing at a time. so while that travel advice is in place all other topics cease to matter. ". No I'm not misleading there, my point was we treat his opinion as "better" than Putin's because he's meant to be better! Since Reagan and even before there's been a very dangerous US foreign policy of meddling!. Now Putin(brexiter) got rightly slagged off for meddling in EU affairs with the message of sort your own affairs out!. You can't have one rule for one president and another rule for another president. | |||
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"Remember when Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize for not being George W Bush? Ah! Such heady, optimistic days! ". Putin is a brexiter Obama a remainer There both presidents with dubious foreign policy and internal problems. Whys one presidents opinion better than the others | |||
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"Remember when Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize for not being George W Bush? Ah! Such heady, optimistic days! ". He was elected by a whole bunch of people holding up a card that said "change". Now that's ironic | |||
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"I think it would be negligent if he wasn't clear with us, about his view as President. The referendum will potentially have major significance and ramifications for us and for other countries. The UK could be viewed as one of the most significant US allies and contacts into Europe for the USA and thus it will impact upon that country. As it stands, the US has each state with major differences between them and he already has some parallel responsibilities over there. Sleep walking into a nightmare scenario isn't good, if you could be awoken and led to safety. Top man!. . . The guy should be more concerned that the foreign office is now issuing travel advice on the USA for UK citizens. That's embarrassing! Yes, he should only focus on one thing at a time. so while that travel advice is in place all other topics cease to matter. .
No I'm not misleading there, my point was we treat his opinion as "better" than Putin's because he's meant to be better!
Since Reagan and even before there's been a very dangerous US foreign policy of meddling!.
Now Putin(brexiter) got rightly slagged off for meddling in EU affairs with the message of sort your own affairs out!.
You can't have one rule for one president and another rule for another president."I agree with you, the problem is I have no problem with Putin having an opinion about the EU. I think that it is in the nature of the office to have such opinions and to voice them, whether that be Obama, Putin, or Cameron. Whose opinion we take as relevant will, naturally depend on whose opinions really matters to us, and in some cases the opinion that matter is that of our allies and in some cases it is the opinion of our enemies. No real double standard there...more of a realism (as in the theory of realism) approach to foreign policy... | |||
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"Over here, ready to spout off in support of his mate Dave. Spokesman just been on Breakfast TV. Actually said we would be "more democratic" inside the EU? That the EU "supports democracy" You really cannot get anymore hypocritical than that! Damn cheek anyway, telling us how to vote in our own country. What would happen if our politicians went over to the states and encouraged everyone there to vote for Trump? I'm sure O'Barmy would be fine with that!" Soon enough Marine Le Pen from the FN party will be over here speaking in favour of Brexit. I wonder how that's gonna go down, a continental far right politician interfering in British politics... I'm sure Brexiters will be up in arms. | |||
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"I've often thought that the mighty USA (or certainly large swathes of it) is the country that poses the greatest threat to a harmonious planet. Obama being elected showed that there is hope for us all, for the simple reason that he is black. The rise of Trump and Cruz (who is even worse, completely homophobic, just less shouty) is a direct backlash in my view. If Clinton wins I think it will be a great victory for the same reasons as Obama. The actual indaviduals involved are almost immaterial, it's what they represent that counts. Do love the county though." So Clinton should be president just because she has a vagina? | |||
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"I've often thought that the mighty USA (or certainly large swathes of it) is the country that poses the greatest threat to a harmonious planet. Obama being elected showed that there is hope for us all, for the simple reason that he is black. The rise of Trump and Cruz (who is even worse, completely homophobic, just less shouty) is a direct backlash in my view. If Clinton wins I think it will be a great victory for the same reasons as Obama. The actual indaviduals involved are almost immaterial, it's what they represent that counts. Do love the county though. So Clinton should be president just because she has a vagina?" Yep | |||
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"I've often thought that the mighty USA (or certainly large swathes of it) is the country that poses the greatest threat to a harmonious planet. Obama being elected showed that there is hope for us all, for the simple reason that he is black. The rise of Trump and Cruz (who is even worse, completely homophobic, just less shouty) is a direct backlash in my view. If Clinton wins I think it will be a great victory for the same reasons as Obama. The actual indaviduals involved are almost immaterial, it's what they represent that counts. Do love the county though. So Clinton should be president just because she has a vagina? Yep" How progressive | |||
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"I find it odd that the future of a country as tiny as the UK is being discussed by the US president. I have a feeling he's humouring Cameron and really couldn't give a shit." what about Trident; or should we not mention that | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU." Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course. | |||
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" Soon enough Marine Le Pen from the FN party will be over here speaking in favour of Brexit. I wonder how that's gonna go down, a continental far right politician interfering in British politics... I'm sure Brexiters will be up in arms." Not sure, i think some/ a few/ many of the Brexiters share similar nationalistic views.. a platform with Boris, Putin, Trump and Le Pen, interesting.. | |||
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"I find it odd that the future of a country as tiny as the UK is being discussed by the US president. I have a feeling he's humouring Cameron and really couldn't give a shit." He is leaving office soon anyway so not Obama's problem | |||
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" Soon enough Marine Le Pen from the FN party will be over here speaking in favour of Brexit. I wonder how that's gonna go down, a continental far right politician interfering in British politics... I'm sure Brexiters will be up in arms. Not sure, i think some/ a few/ many of the Brexiters share similar nationalistic views.. a platform with Boris, Putin, Trump and Le Pen, interesting.. " Truly a progressive and inspiring crowd... /s | |||
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"Over here, ready to spout off in support of his mate Dave. Spokesman just been on Breakfast TV. Actually said we would be "more democratic" inside the EU? That the EU "supports democracy" You really cannot get anymore hypocritical than that! Damn cheek anyway, telling us how to vote in our own country. What would happen if our politicians went over to the states and encouraged everyone there to vote for Trump? I'm sure O'Barmy would be fine with that! Soon enough Marine Le Pen from the FN party will be over here speaking in favour of Brexit. I wonder how that's gonna go down, a continental far right politician interfering in British politics... I'm sure Brexiters will be up in arms." . There's anti EU parties in nearly every European country and there all gaining ground. What narks me the most is that eu leaders have seen this discontentment coming for years and done fuck all about it except now it's getting serious there still doing nothing but there willing to scare everybody to death about the opposite side of the coin!. There's vast swathes of people all over Europe from Italy to Sweden to Germany to France to Greece who are finding the EU current structure not of their liking. Now the EU itself is just being the pompous bunch of oligarchic figures that the opponents are holding them up to be!. You've now got over 25% of people in Italy and Germany and Sweden voting anti EU... Are all these millions of Europeans little Englanders?. Most European countries have a habit of being far left and swerving directly to far right, they don't like middle ground. Ein Reich ein volk ein euro!. Good luck enforcing it | |||
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" Soon enough Marine Le Pen from the FN party will be over here speaking in favour of Brexit. I wonder how that's gonna go down, a continental far right politician interfering in British politics... I'm sure Brexiters will be up in arms. Not sure, i think some/ a few/ many of the Brexiters share similar nationalistic views.. a platform with Boris, Putin, Trump and Le Pen, interesting.. Truly a progressive and inspiring crowd... /s" . And Reagan, bush, Clinton, bush, Obama, Clinton... There progressive?. There just the fucking smiley face of the same shit | |||
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" Soon enough Marine Le Pen from the FN party will be over here speaking in favour of Brexit. I wonder how that's gonna go down, a continental far right politician interfering in British politics... I'm sure Brexiters will be up in arms. Not sure, i think some/ a few/ many of the Brexiters share similar nationalistic views.. a platform with Boris, Putin, Trump and Le Pen, interesting.. Truly a progressive and inspiring crowd... /s. And Reagan, bush, Clinton, bush, Obama, Clinton... There progressive?. There just the fucking smiley face of the same shit" That's extrapolating my argument. I didn't say I necessarily agreed with any of those either. | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course." it is justified because of his Kenyan fathers anti UK opinions | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course." Yet again you keep writing Donald Trump off as a big joke. He has proved everyone wrong getting as far as he has. Underestimate Trump at your peril. Your lefty mate red Ken Livingstone, said on the This week programme on BBC One last night if it comes down to Trump vs Clinton he can see Trump winning it such is the anti establishment feeling in America. | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course.it is justified because of his Kenyan fathers anti UK opinions " Children shouldn't be held responsible for their parents beliefs or actions. That's unfair. | |||
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"Let's face it, he is telling us to do what he feels is best for his country... Everyone outside of the UK, for or against, will tell us what is in their country's best interests..." Obama is part of the establishment and is in the back pockets of the multi national companies, big American corporations and conglomerates, who want to see the TTIP deal pushed through between the USA and the EU. The USA wants Britain in the EU as part of TTIP. All those Mega rich American corporations and companies must be rubbing their hands with glee thinking they can buy up large chunks of our NHS and make large profits from it once TTIP goes through, which will lead to the privatisation of the NHS. Hillary Clinton is just the same as Obama, the next one put in line by the establishment. Despite David Cameron getting down on his knees and begging Obama to intervene in this EU referendum because the polls are not going the way Cameron thought they would, I suspect Obama's real motivation is TTIP and he couldn't care less about what is best for Britain, only what's best for the Mega rich American companies and how much profit they can make from TTIP. | |||
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"i think the polls are for Cameron heading in the right direction, whether after the result he will have a party is another issue.. Tories are in meltdown over this.." The polls are neck and neck, Cameron thought he'd have a healthy lead by now. | |||
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"i think the polls are for Cameron heading in the right direction, whether after the result he will have a party is another issue.. Tories are in meltdown over this.. The polls are neck and neck, Cameron thought he'd have a healthy lead by now. " He may well have done but i think the expectation is for a lot of the undecided to go with the status quo which is not uncommon.. we shall see.. like any type of outcome, a narrow one in this will only serve to maintain the mess that is the Tory party on Europe.. who knows maybe the kippers will double their seats.. maybe.. | |||
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"Let's face it, he is telling us to do what he feels is best for his country... Everyone outside of the UK, for or against, will tell us what is in their country's best interests..." if we stay in the EU then ttip will apply to us too.. Meaning the EU is a bigger place for american companies to exploit | |||
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"Let's face it, he is telling us to do what he feels is best for his country... Everyone outside of the UK, for or against, will tell us what is in their country's best interests... if we stay in the EU then ttip will apply to us too.. Meaning the EU is a bigger place for american companies to exploit " instead of none US companies who share the same interests.. the principle of selling everything off so someone can 'reform' it and make a profit is still going to be shit for some in society no matter where the head office is.. Panama or Pheonix same shit different ownner.. | |||
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"Let's face it, he is telling us to do what he feels is best for his country... Everyone outside of the UK, for or against, will tell us what is in their country's best interests... if we stay in the EU then ttip will apply to us too.. Meaning the EU is a bigger place for american companies to exploit instead of none US companies who share the same interests.. the principle of selling everything off so someone can 'reform' it and make a profit is still going to be shit for some in society no matter where the head office is.. Panama or Pheonix same shit different ownner.." . There's a difference between making a good profit and making obscene profit and paying no tax. And that's before I even get started on the fact all these companies run and rely on services countries provide by tax!!. If you fundermentally don't get the balance right the whole system goes tits. My personal view is were 40 years down a wrong turning | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course.it is justified because of his Kenyan fathers anti UK opinions " No, it's racism. Obama's mother is American, you may not be aware of the fact, but they have a history of violently opposing British colonialism too. Of course, Boris didn't mention that because it doesn't work as a dog whistle to the Leave campaign's many racist supporters. | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course. Yet again you keep writing Donald Trump off as a big joke. He has proved everyone wrong getting as far as he has. Underestimate Trump at your peril. Your lefty mate red Ken Livingstone, said on the This week programme on BBC One last night if it comes down to Trump vs Clinton he can see Trump winning it such is the anti establishment feeling in America. " All that proves is that just like you, and the vast majority of American voters, Ken doesn't understand how the American party system actually works. Trump is as likely to be the next Republican presidential candidate as you are. | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course.it is justified because of his Kenyan fathers anti UK opinions No, it's racism. Obama's mother is American, you may not be aware of the fact, but they have a history of violently opposing British colonialism too. Of course, Boris didn't mention that because it doesn't work as a dog whistle to the Leave campaign's many racist supporters." How are you getting on with the anti semitism in the Labour party? | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course.it is justified because of his Kenyan fathers anti UK opinions No, it's racism. Obama's mother is American, you may not be aware of the fact, but they have a history of violently opposing British colonialism too. Of course, Boris didn't mention that because it doesn't work as a dog whistle to the Leave campaign's many racist supporters. How are you getting on with the anti semitism in the Labour party? " So you don't want to deny that the majority of Leave supporters are racists? Noted. | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course.it is justified because of his Kenyan fathers anti UK opinions No, it's racism. Obama's mother is American, you may not be aware of the fact, but they have a history of violently opposing British colonialism too. Of course, Boris didn't mention that because it doesn't work as a dog whistle to the Leave campaign's many racist supporters. How are you getting on with the anti semitism in the Labour party? So you don't want to deny that the majority of Leave supporters are racists? Noted. Just like you keep denying on various threads Labour has no problem with anti semitism you mean? No wonder someone nicknamed you comical Ali on this forum a while ago. "I've heard you regerred to by the same name many times on here, mainly due to your insistence that UKIP weren't a political irrelevance! But it's good to know that you accept the Leave campaign is fuelled by racism. Very few of you will come out and admit it, so that's progress at least. | |||
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"What I always find interesting about these discussions is that no one in the world wants the US to tell them what to do. Seems fair enough. Yet everyone around the world feels it's ok for them to tell the US what it should do about foreign and domestic policy. I hear the argument all the time that the hegemonic status of the US opens it up to global critique, and yet that same hegemony doesn't work the other way around, which is interesting logic if you ask me. I don't really care what Obama does. I doubt he will persuade many people. However, if he is giving an opinion about what effect this action (the UK leaving the EU) will have on UK and US relations (and it will have an effect) then I don't see how that information can be a bad thing. Would it be better if that change came about without prior knowledge? Maybe we should all just agree that the US won't bother having opinions about others' foreign policy if other countries don't have an opinion about US foreign policy. I'm not sure that would be an improvement for anyone, though." | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course.it is justified because of his Kenyan fathers anti UK opinions No, it's racism. Obama's mother is American, you may not be aware of the fact, but they have a history of violently opposing British colonialism too. Of course, Boris didn't mention that because it doesn't work as a dog whistle to the Leave campaign's many racist supporters. How are you getting on with the anti semitism in the Labour party? So you don't want to deny that the majority of Leave supporters are racists? Noted. Just like you keep denying on various threads Labour has no problem with anti semitism you mean? No wonder someone nicknamed you comical Ali on this forum a while ago.
I've heard you regerred to by the same name many times on here, mainly due to your insistence that UKIP weren't a political irrelevance!
But it's good to know that you accept the Leave campaign is fuelled by racism. Very few of you will come out and admit it, so that's progress at least. "I don't have a problem with anything Boris said, he was telling it like it is, what did he actually say that was untrue or inaccurate? | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course.it is justified because of his Kenyan fathers anti UK opinions No, it's racism. Obama's mother is American, you may not be aware of the fact, but they have a history of violently opposing British colonialism too. Of course, Boris didn't mention that because it doesn't work as a dog whistle to the Leave campaign's many racist supporters. How are you getting on with the anti semitism in the Labour party? So you don't want to deny that the majority of Leave supporters are racists? Noted. Just like you keep denying on various threads Labour has no problem with anti semitism you mean? No wonder someone nicknamed you comical Ali on this forum a while ago.
I've heard you regerred to by the same name many times on here, mainly due to your insistence that UKIP weren't a political irrelevance!
But it's good to know that you accept the Leave campaign is fuelled by racism. Very few of you will come out and admit it, so that's progress at least.
I don't have a problem with anything Boris said, he was telling it like it is, what did he actually say that was untrue or inaccurate? "So you don't have a problem with racist rhetoric from Boris Johnson? Wow. That's some admission. Unless you want to explain how what he was saying wasn't racist rhetoric, designed purely as a dogwhistle to the Leave campaign's many racist supporters. I would be very interested to see how you unpick that one! | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course.it is justified because of his Kenyan fathers anti UK opinions No, it's racism. Obama's mother is American, you may not be aware of the fact, but they have a history of violently opposing British colonialism too. Of course, Boris didn't mention that because it doesn't work as a dog whistle to the Leave campaign's many racist supporters. How are you getting on with the anti semitism in the Labour party? So you don't want to deny that the majority of Leave supporters are racists? Noted. Just like you keep denying on various threads Labour has no problem with anti semitism you mean? No wonder someone nicknamed you comical Ali on this forum a while ago.
I've heard you regerred to by the same name many times on here, mainly due to your insistence that UKIP weren't a political irrelevance!
But it's good to know that you accept the Leave campaign is fuelled by racism. Very few of you will come out and admit it, so that's progress at least.
I don't have a problem with anything Boris said, he was telling it like it is, what did he actually say that was untrue or inaccurate?
So you don't have a problem with racist rhetoric from Boris Johnson? Wow. That's some admission.
Unless you want to explain how what he was saying wasn't racist rhetoric, designed purely as a dogwhistle to the Leave campaign's many racist supporters. I would be very interested to see how you unpick that one!"Nice try to twist it upto your old chemical Ali tricks again. Boris said Obama's father was from Kenya, that is just a clear and plain statement of fact and nothing more. | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course.it is justified because of his Kenyan fathers anti UK opinions No, it's racism. Obama's mother is American, you may not be aware of the fact, but they have a history of violently opposing British colonialism too. Of course, Boris didn't mention that because it doesn't work as a dog whistle to the Leave campaign's many racist supporters. How are you getting on with the anti semitism in the Labour party? So you don't want to deny that the majority of Leave supporters are racists? Noted. Just like you keep denying on various threads Labour has no problem with anti semitism you mean? No wonder someone nicknamed you comical Ali on this forum a while ago.
I've heard you regerred to by the same name many times on here, mainly due to your insistence that UKIP weren't a political irrelevance!
But it's good to know that you accept the Leave campaign is fuelled by racism. Very few of you will come out and admit it, so that's progress at least.
I don't have a problem with anything Boris said, he was telling it like it is, what did he actually say that was untrue or inaccurate?
So you don't have a problem with racist rhetoric from Boris Johnson? Wow. That's some admission.
Unless you want to explain how what he was saying wasn't racist rhetoric, designed purely as a dogwhistle to the Leave campaign's many racist supporters. I would be very interested to see how you unpick that one!
Nice try to twist it upto your old chemical Ali tricks again. Boris said Obama's father was from Kenya, that is just a clear and plain statement of fact and nothing more. "Hello again! Have you managed to come up with a proper attempt to explain why it wasn't racist yet, in the style of Comical Ali? I'll give you a clue, what you just wrote isn't even the start of an answer. Unless you think that Boris Johnson tells his readers the country of birth of the father of every person he writes about, for some bizarre reason of completeness. Although you might then wonder why he doesn't mention their mothers as well. Try again.  | |||
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"i love what obama did.... he didn't tell people which way to vote.....i didn't hear a threat... he told people a consequence of what may happen if the vote went one way..... by a person who can help influence that consequence You've got to admire the blind stubbornness of Brexiters in the face of informed opinion, though...they tell everyone that the UK leaving the EU won't affect our stance with the US. Then, when the actual President of the actual US explicitly states that leaving the EU would weaken our position with the US...they still say 'no it won't'! What would Obama know about the US, anyway! "love the blind faith of the brexiters ..you'd have to be blind to vote out ... | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course.it is justified because of his Kenyan fathers anti UK opinions No, it's racism. Obama's mother is American, you may not be aware of the fact, but they have a history of violently opposing British colonialism too. Of course, Boris didn't mention that because it doesn't work as a dog whistle to the Leave campaign's many racist supporters. How are you getting on with the anti semitism in the Labour party? So you don't want to deny that the majority of Leave supporters are racists? Noted. Just like you keep denying on various threads Labour has no problem with anti semitism you mean? No wonder someone nicknamed you comical Ali on this forum a while ago.
I've heard you regerred to by the same name many times on here, mainly due to your insistence that UKIP weren't a political irrelevance!
But it's good to know that you accept the Leave campaign is fuelled by racism. Very few of you will come out and admit it, so that's progress at least.
I don't have a problem with anything Boris said, he was telling it like it is, what did he actually say that was untrue or inaccurate?
So you don't have a problem with racist rhetoric from Boris Johnson? Wow. That's some admission.
Unless you want to explain how what he was saying wasn't racist rhetoric, designed purely as a dogwhistle to the Leave campaign's many racist supporters. I would be very interested to see how you unpick that one!
Nice try to twist it upto your old chemical Ali tricks again. Boris said Obama's father was from Kenya, that is just a clear and plain statement of fact and nothing more.
Hello again! Have you managed to come up with a proper attempt to explain why it wasn't racist yet, in the style of Comical Ali?
I'll give you a clue, what you just wrote isn't even the start of an answer. Unless you think that Boris Johnson tells his readers the country of birth of the father of every person he writes about, for some bizarre reason of completeness. Although you might then wonder why he doesn't mention their mothers as well.
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"i love what obama did.... he didn't tell people which way to vote.....i didn't hear a threat... he told people a consequence of what may happen if the vote went one way..... by a person who can help influence that consequence You've got to admire the blind stubbornness of Brexiters in the face of informed opinion, though...they tell everyone that the UK leaving the EU won't affect our stance with the US. Then, when the actual President of the actual US explicitly states that leaving the EU would weaken our position with the US...they still say 'no it won't'! What would Obama know about the US, anyway! "Obama the president who will be a civilian come Christmas time. He won't be involved in any future negotiations between Britain and the USA. | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course.it is justified because of his Kenyan fathers anti UK opinions No, it's racism. Obama's mother is American, you may not be aware of the fact, but they have a history of violently opposing British colonialism too. Of course, Boris didn't mention that because it doesn't work as a dog whistle to the Leave campaign's many racist supporters. How are you getting on with the anti semitism in the Labour party? So you don't want to deny that the majority of Leave supporters are racists? Noted. Just like you keep denying on various threads Labour has no problem with anti semitism you mean? No wonder someone nicknamed you comical Ali on this forum a while ago.
I've heard you regerred to by the same name many times on here, mainly due to your insistence that UKIP weren't a political irrelevance!
But it's good to know that you accept the Leave campaign is fuelled by racism. Very few of you will come out and admit it, so that's progress at least.
I don't have a problem with anything Boris said, he was telling it like it is, what did he actually say that was untrue or inaccurate?
So you don't have a problem with racist rhetoric from Boris Johnson? Wow. That's some admission.
Unless you want to explain how what he was saying wasn't racist rhetoric, designed purely as a dogwhistle to the Leave campaign's many racist supporters. I would be very interested to see how you unpick that one!
Nice try to twist it upto your old chemical Ali tricks again. Boris said Obama's father was from Kenya, that is just a clear and plain statement of fact and nothing more.
Hello again! Have you managed to come up with a proper attempt to explain why it wasn't racist yet, in the style of Comical Ali?
I'll give you a clue, what you just wrote isn't even the start of an answer. Unless you think that Boris Johnson tells his readers the country of birth of the father of every person he writes about, for some bizarre reason of completeness. Although you might then wonder why he doesn't mention their mothers as well.
Try again.
I don't need to Colgate just did It for me on the other thread. "Well he was completely wrong there, so you'd best not rely on other people to come up with your answers for you. I know that's the Leave campaign's preferred way, but it hasn't worked out for them either! | |||
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"i love what obama did.... he didn't tell people which way to vote.....i didn't hear a threat... he told people a consequence of what may happen if the vote went one way..... by a person who can help influence that consequence i like to know what i am voting on, and that is information that can help me make an informed decision... I have heard an american adage used a lot today..... "friends don't let friends get behind a steering wheel d*unk!" let me use a different analogy.... if you saw "miss world" in a club and you wanted to try your luck.... you mate doesn't tell you you should or you shouldn't..... but what he tells you is the person next to miss world is her "6ft7 triple world champion mma boyfriend/ape, who has a notoriously short temper......" so you could go up to her.... and you could sweet talk her into leaving with you and you could live happily ever after....... but its more likely he breaks every bone in your body and you end up drinking hospital food thru a straw for a long time so before the next arguement coming which is "oh but obama will be out of office by then" think about this... do you really think the priorities of a clinton administration are going to be any different to an obama one? any before you all start rooting for "the donald"... remember he is in america first mode... and do you think he will give a sweetheart deal to a country where the best of a quarter of a million people signed a petition wanting him barred, and he got called all sorts of rude and nasty things in a debate!!!!!!!" Fabio, how is your old favourite Bernie Sanders doing? Is your finger still hovering over the donate button?
On the Donald I take it you didn't watch his interview with Piers Morgan then? You know the one where he said he thinks Britain will leave the EU. He also said he loves Great Britain, he has British relatives so Britain holds a special place in his heart and that he would seek to strengthen ties with Britain if he becomes President, and it won't matter if the UK is in the EU or not. He also said he didn't take any notice of the call to ban him because it was nonsense and it didn't gain any traction.
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"i love what obama did.... he didn't tell people which way to vote.....i didn't hear a threat... he told people a consequence of what may happen if the vote went one way..... by a person who can help influence that consequence You've got to admire the blind stubbornness of Brexiters in the face of informed opinion, though...they tell everyone that the UK leaving the EU won't affect our stance with the US. Then, when the actual President of the actual US explicitly states that leaving the EU would weaken our position with the US...they still say 'no it won't'! What would Obama know about the US, anyway!
Obama the president who will be a civilian come Christmas time. He won't be involved in any future negotiations between Britain and the USA. "He will be in a position to influence any prior negotiations though, and as the President of the USA, he is pretty well informed on what their political thoughts on the UK are. Certainly a lot better informed than either Boris Johnson or Nigel Farage. So he is actually worth listening to. And let's face it, Hilary Clinton is going to be the next US pres anyway, so Obama will be all over that. | |||
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"Obama has a nice smile and no balls. A pathetic president" A nobel peace prize winner that has been president for the last seven years of a country that was once a world leader. Now we have a world in utter chaos a country that calls an act of war by Russia a reckless fly-over on one of our war ships. Perhaps this time he was a bit more sensible if he gave a gift to the Queen and did not give a DVD of his speeches that was not even formatted for UK televisions. | |||
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"i love what obama did.... he didn't tell people which way to vote.....i didn't hear a threat... he told people a consequence of what may happen if the vote went one way..... by a person who can help influence that consequence i like to know what i am voting on, and that is information that can help me make an informed decision... I have heard an american adage used a lot today..... "friends don't let friends get behind a steering wheel d*unk!" let me use a different analogy.... if you saw "miss world" in a club and you wanted to try your luck.... you mate doesn't tell you you should or you shouldn't..... but what he tells you is the person next to miss world is her "6ft7 triple world champion mma boyfriend/ape, who has a notoriously short temper......" so you could go up to her.... and you could sweet talk her into leaving with you and you could live happily ever after....... but its more likely he breaks every bone in your body and you end up drinking hospital food thru a straw for a long time so before the next arguement coming which is "oh but obama will be out of office by then" think about this... do you really think the priorities of a clinton administration are going to be any different to an obama one? any before you all start rooting for "the donald"... remember he is in america first mode... and do you think he will give a sweetheart deal to a country where the best of a quarter of a million people signed a petition wanting him barred, and he got called all sorts of rude and nasty things in a debate!!!!!!! Fabio, how is your old favourite Bernie Sanders doing? Is your finger still hovering over the donate button?
On the Donald I take it you didn't watch his interview with Piers Morgan then? You know the one where he said he thinks Britain will leave the EU. He also said he loves Great Britain, he has British relatives so Britain holds a special place in his heart and that he would seek to strengthen ties with Britain if he becomes President, and it won't matter if the UK is in the EU or not. He also said he didn't take any notice of the call to ban him because it was nonsense and it didn't gain any traction.
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" Obama the president who will be a civilian come Christmas time. He won't be involved in any future negotiations between Britain and the USA. " did i not say someone would use this exact arguement..... thanks centaur!!!!!!!
so read the rest of my post...
so before the next arguement coming which is "oh but obama will be out of office by then" think about this...
a) do you really think the priorities of a clinton administration are going to be any different to an obama one?
and before you all start rooting for "the donald"...
b) remember he is in america first mode... and do you think he will give a sweetheart deal to a country where the best of a quarter of a million people signed a petition wanting him barred, and he got called all sorts of rude and nasty things in a debate!!!!!!!
if he gets into nasty trade spats with china, japan, mexico....... why would the uk be any different (unless you think the uk are going to roll over to his demands)
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Obama the president who will be a civilian come Christmas time. He won't be involved in any future negotiations between Britain and the USA.
He will be in a position to influence any prior negotiations though, and as the President of the USA, he is pretty well informed on what their political thoughts on the UK are. Certainly a lot better informed than either Boris Johnson or Nigel Farage. So he is actually worth listening to.
And let's face it, Hilary Clinton is going to be the next US pres anyway, so Obama will be all over that."You predicted Labour under Ed Miliband would win the general election. I'm not really gonna be taking any betting tips on the outcome of the Presidential race from you if you don't mind. Your lefty mate Red Ken Livingston seems to be talking more sense though, he thinks Trump will beat Clinton. | |||
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" Fabio, how is your old favourite Bernie Sanders doing? Is your finger still hovering over the donate button?
On the Donald I take it you didn't watch his interview with Piers Morgan then? You know the one where he said he thinks Britain will leave the EU. He also said he loves Great Britain, he has British relatives so Britain holds a special place in his heart and that he would seek to strengthen ties with Britain if he becomes President, and it won't matter if the UK is in the EU or not. He also said he didn't take any notice of the call to ban him because it was nonsense and it didn't gain any traction.
"did donate for bernie.... and if bernie legacy was he got hillary to move to the left.... i'll absolutely take that.... hillary beats donald by 15 points..... care to want to put a wager on it???? i'll happily take ya money like i took bluezulu's for being insane enough to think ukip would win 7 seats.....
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"i love what obama did.... he didn't tell people which way to vote.....i didn't hear a threat... he told people a consequence of what may happen if the vote went one way..... by a person who can help influence that consequence You've got to admire the blind stubbornness of Brexiters in the face of informed opinion, though...they tell everyone that the UK leaving the EU won't affect our stance with the US. Then, when the actual President of the actual US explicitly states that leaving the EU would weaken our position with the US...they still say 'no it won't'! What would Obama know about the US, anyway!
Obama the president who will be a civilian come Christmas time. He won't be involved in any future negotiations between Britain and the USA.
He will be in a position to influence any prior negotiations though, and as the President of the USA, he is pretty well informed on what their political thoughts on the UK are. Certainly a lot better informed than either Boris Johnson or Nigel Farage. So he is actually worth listening to.
And let's face it, Hilary Clinton is going to be the next US pres anyway, so Obama will be all over that.
You predicted Labour under Ed Miliband would win the general election. I'm not really gonna be taking any betting tips on the outcome of the Presidential race from you if you don't mind. Your lefty mate Red Ken Livingston seems to be talking more sense though, he thinks Trump will beat Clinton. "Well, if you think a religious nut like Cruz can win, good luck to you. Personally I don't think he has a hope. Trump CANNOT be the president, as the Republican party will simply not let him stand, regardless of how many votes he gets. What most people in America, and Ken Livingstone, and you, don't seem to realise, is that it's the party that chooses the presidential candidate, not the people. If this US election has done one thing, it's alerted the US populace to how their political system actually works. The fallout after the Republican convention will be very interesting indeed. | |||
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"I'm genuinely worried that large swatches of people in this country will vote to leave the EU for thoroughly terrible reasons. I also think that many people fail to appreciate the gravity of the situation. The UK leaving the EU will send shockwaves across the globe. This means Mr. Obama is well within his remit to comment on the matter." . Wow no shit. The stock markets collapse every time somebody mentions putting up interest rates by 25 points!. You can't blame the fact that global capitalism is a fucking basket case on some poxy 60 million people voting to leave a political union | |||
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"Not just Democrats . Have you heard the story of Halliburton, Iraq, and the Vice President of the good ol US of A? What? My old company? Made BILLIONSout of the war I pushed that kid Bush to make(oops, and his dad)? No siree sir. He wouldn't do that, would he?" . Joe bidens son runs the biggest fracking company in guess where?.. Yep Ukraine, you really think he's unbiased in his opinion of Russian/Ukraine relations! | |||
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"i love what obama did.... he didn't tell people which way to vote.....i didn't hear a threat... he told people a consequence of what may happen if the vote went one way..... by a person who can help influence that consequence You've got to admire the blind stubbornness of Brexiters in the face of informed opinion, though...they tell everyone that the UK leaving the EU won't affect our stance with the US. Then, when the actual President of the actual US explicitly states that leaving the EU would weaken our position with the US...they still say 'no it won't'! What would Obama know about the US, anyway!
Obama the president who will be a civilian come Christmas time. He won't be involved in any future negotiations between Britain and the USA.
He will be in a position to influence any prior negotiations though, and as the President of the USA, he is pretty well informed on what their political thoughts on the UK are. Certainly a lot better informed than either Boris Johnson or Nigel Farage. So he is actually worth listening to.
And let's face it, Hilary Clinton is going to be the next US pres anyway, so Obama will be all over that.
You predicted Labour under Ed Miliband would win the general election. I'm not really gonna be taking any betting tips on the outcome of the Presidential race from you if you don't mind. Your lefty mate Red Ken Livingston seems to be talking more sense though, he thinks Trump will beat Clinton.
Well, if you think a religious nut like Cruz can win, good luck to you. Personally I don't think he has a hope.
Trump CANNOT be the president, as the Republican party will simply not let him stand, regardless of how many votes he gets. What most people in America, and Ken Livingstone, and you, don't seem to realise, is that it's the party that chooses the presidential candidate, not the people.
If this US election has done one thing, it's alerted the US populace to how their political system actually works. The fallout after the Republican convention will be very interesting indeed."The land of the free. | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU." I'm listening very carefully for your rant about him interfering in the debate. After all he's a foreigner expressing an opinion and shouldn't do do. According to the likes of you. | |||
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"We have a special relationship but if you leave the EU you will be at the back of the queue. So he's either a liar a dick or both" You and fellow Brexiters have spent so much effort telling us that the world will bend over backwards to do deals with a post eu uk, you'd better start listening when someone who knows tells you otherwise. Being rude and insulting about the us president doesn't make your position any less wrong. | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course. Yet again you keep writing Donald Trump off as a big joke. He has proved everyone wrong getting as far as he has. Underestimate Trump at your peril. Your lefty mate red Ken Livingstone, said on the This week programme on BBC One last night if it comes down to Trump vs Clinton he can see Trump winning it such is the anti establishment feeling in America. " There are no longer enough white people in America to get a full on conservative, Republican President. Donald Trump has split the now already minority Republican Party and thereby reduced any possibility of him being elected President. The power there now lies (as here in the UK) in the middle ground and Hilary is sweeping that up. The only chance that Trump would have is if he somehow started to appeal to women, Hispanics or Blacks in any meaningful way and thereby start to erode into the Democrat voter base. That is fairly unlikely to say the least. | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course." I wonder if he was referring to the fact that a lot of Amercans believe that Obama did not legally qualify to run for president and apparently still refuses to answer questions about his past... | |||
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"So everyone has been spouting off about how leaving won't make any difference to our ability to make deals around the world. Everyone is seeking something that supports their argument from across the planet of soothsayers that give their opinions. Obama give his opinion and apparently he's wrong. It's an opinion presented from his point of view on what he knows he would like to see and what he knows American business and government want to see. I didn't hear or read anything that should get anyone worked up. Suggesting that he is saying we should do something America never would is a little skewed: he's saying to keep doing what we have been doing for 40 years. If this was a referendum about JOINING then there might a case to answer. As for Nige positing Obama is anti-British because he chose to remove the bust of Churchill from his office -really? I think the POTUS should be allowed to choose what's in the office he's practically living in for 8 years. " . I think when you say everyone .
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course. I wonder if he was referring to the fact that a lot of Amercans believe that Obama did not legally qualify to run for president and apparently still refuses to answer questions about his past..." What questions has be ACTUALLY refused to answer? I don't mean the daft questions that are just racism dressed up as "getting to the truth". | |||
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"I've often thought that the mighty USA (or certainly large swathes of it) is the country that poses the greatest threat to a harmonious planet. Obama being elected showed that there is hope for us all, for the simple reason that he is black. The rise of Trump and Cruz (who is even worse, completely homophobic, just less shouty) is a direct backlash in my view. If Clinton wins I think it will be a great victory for the same reasons as Obama. The actual indaviduals involved are almost immaterial, it's what they represent that counts. Do love the county though." This is going to blow your mind - but both Obama and Hillary are at the top of their game because of their QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE JOB, not for novelty like skin colour or genitalia. I'm sure you thought your comment was enlightened, but it was actually incredibly belittling. White men. Sigh. | |||
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"Not just Democrats . Have you heard the story of Halliburton, Iraq, and the Vice President of the good ol US of A? What? My old company? Made BILLIONSout of the war I pushed that kid Bush to make(oops, and his dad)? No siree sir. He wouldn't do that, would he?. Joe bidens son runs the biggest fracking company in guess where?.. Yep Ukraine, you really think he's unbiased in his opinion of Russian/Ukraine relations!" I never said he wasn't. What's your point? | |||
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"Obama's words are the policy of the United States, not the policy of Barak Obama. The Brexit campaign invited this intervention by stating that once out of the EU the UK could make trade deals quickly with the United States. In his capacity as President of the Unied States, Obama just told us that this would not be quite as easy as has been alluded to because (obviously) priorities go to bigger deals. Common sense really." We agree on something.
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"It doesn't matter what we think or vote, the election will be rigged so we stay in. That big forehead Cameron gets what he wants every time." Mr Condom Head you mean? | |||
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"It doesn't matter what we think or vote, the election will be rigged so we stay in. That big forehead Cameron gets what he wants every time." How will it be rigged? Turnout is likely to be low. Older people tend to vote when younger people don't. More older people indicate they will vote to leave. It's going to be a close vote. | |||
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"It doesn't matter what we think or vote, the election will be rigged so we stay in. That big forehead Cameron gets what he wants every time. How will it be rigged? Turnout is likely to be low. Older people tend to vote when younger people don't. More older people indicate they will vote to leave. It's going to be a close vote. " Obama is gonna rig the vote | |||
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"It doesn't matter what we think or vote, the election will be rigged so we stay in. That big forehead Cameron gets what he wants every time. How will it be rigged? Turnout is likely to be low. Older people tend to vote when younger people don't. More older people indicate they will vote to leave. It's going to be a close vote. Obama is gonna rig the vote " Is he going to get a load of Canadians to come over and vote? | |||
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"It doesn't matter what we think or vote, the election will be rigged so we stay in. That big forehead Cameron gets what he wants every time. How will it be rigged? Turnout is likely to be low. Older people tend to vote when younger people don't. More older people indicate they will vote to leave. It's going to be a close vote. Obama is gonna rig the vote Is he going to get a load of Canadians to come over and vote?" Sounds aboot right | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course. I wonder if he was referring to the fact that a lot of Amercans believe that Obama did not legally qualify to run for president and apparently still refuses to answer questions about his past... Ha hAAA! Hilarious. WHAT have you been smoking(or reading)? If you're referring to what I think you're referring to, Obama publicly ridiculed Trump at a dinner they were both at. In front of the nation's press. Who laughed. A lot. You need to watch this. Even more hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4" Sorry, where did it say I believed ? I just said I wonder if that what he was alluding to? | |||
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"It doesn't matter what we think or vote, the election will be rigged so we stay in. That big forehead Cameron gets what he wants every time. How will it be rigged? Turnout is likely to be low. Older people tend to vote when younger people don't. More older people indicate they will vote to leave. It's going to be a close vote. Obama is gonna rig the vote Is he going to get a load of Canadians to come over and vote? Sounds aboot right " I don't know whether you meant that, but it was actually quite funny | |||
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"It doesn't matter what we think or vote, the election will be rigged so we stay in. That big forehead Cameron gets what he wants every time. How will it be rigged? Turnout is likely to be low. Older people tend to vote when younger people don't. More older people indicate they will vote to leave. It's going to be a close vote. Obama is gonna rig the vote Is he going to get a load of Canadians to come over and vote? Sounds aboot right I don't know whether you meant that, but it was actually quite funny "It was , got it from himym lol | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course. I wonder if he was referring to the fact that a lot of Amercans believe that Obama did not legally qualify to run for president and apparently still refuses to answer questions about his past... Ha hAAA! Hilarious. WHAT have you been smoking(or reading)? If you're referring to what I think you're referring to, Obama publicly ridiculed Trump at a dinner they were both at. In front of the nation's press. Who laughed. A lot. You need to watch this. Even more hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4" There is an old saying, he who laughs last laughs loudest. Trump is laughing at Obama now with each and every vote he gains. | |||
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"Just saw a poll on sky news, question : should Obama intervene in the EU referendum... He should not - 60% Yes he should - 29% Looks like his intervention could work to the Brexit sides favour after all. " thats cherry picking what was actually said......
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" There is an old saying, he who laughs last laughs loudest. Trump is laughing at Obama now with each and every vote he gains. Do you actually support Donald Trump? " actually.... this is an interesting question......lets see what centaur says... i'd love to hear which of donalds policys he agrees with..... | |||
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" There is an old saying, he who laughs last laughs loudest. Trump is laughing at Obama now with each and every vote he gains. Do you actually support Donald Trump? " . I would support sanders as I'm a progressive liberal. I would not vote for Hillary as she's a hawkish and establishment, she's for the status quo. If your doing OK fine vote Hillary, if your not doing OK, id vote trump. Change comes from change not from somebody saying change, my reservation on that would be trump is likely to be the same old same old | |||
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" There is an old saying, he who laughs last laughs loudest. Trump is laughing at Obama now with each and every vote he gains. Do you actually support Donald Trump? actually.... this is an interesting question......lets see what centaur says... i'd love to hear which of donalds policys he agrees with....." Emperor Trump is gonna build the wall, best make sure you're on the right side of it haha | |||
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" There is an old saying, he who laughs last laughs loudest. Trump is laughing at Obama now with each and every vote he gains. Do you actually support Donald Trump? . I would support sanders as I'm a progressive liberal. I would not vote for Hillary as she's a hawkish and establishment, she's for the status quo. If your doing OK fine vote Hillary, if your not doing OK, id vote trump. Change comes from change not from somebody saying change, my reservation on that would be trump is likely to be the same old same old" As absurd as that logic is, it fits the current polling statistics pretty well. The Democratic candidate which stands the best chance at beating Trump is Sanders, not Clinton. I think the American public are desperate for some drastic change. | |||
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"Just saw a poll on sky news, question : should Obama intervene in the EU referendum... He should not - 60% Yes he should - 29% Looks like his intervention could work to the Brexit sides favour after all. thats cherry picking what was actually said......
I don't think he intervened at all... the "out" side were the ones there were saying and were so confident a UK-US trade deal would be done quick smart, then doesn't the head of the US get a right to reply on that one? "Of course he can reply, as the results of the sky news poll shows it is playing right into the Brexit sides favour.
Obama can say "Britain will be at the back of the queue for a trade deal if you leave the EU" if he wants (so much for the special relationship and being our closet ally hey). Fact is Obama won't be president much longer and future Presidential candidates are taking a different tone and saying different things to Obama. | |||
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" There is an old saying, he who laughs last laughs loudest. Trump is laughing at Obama now with each and every vote he gains. Do you actually support Donald Trump? actually.... this is an interesting question......lets see what centaur says... i'd love to hear which of donalds policys he agrees with....." Its impossible to answer that as Trump hardly has any policies. A few off the cuff populist remarks to sate his baying crowd couldn't be called policy. His entire raison d'etre is to be pissed off at everyone and everything that isn't him. Think we can see where the attraction lies for some. | |||
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"Just saw a poll on sky news, question : should Obama intervene in the EU referendum... He should not - 60% Yes he should - 29% Looks like his intervention could work to the Brexit sides favour after all. thats cherry picking what was actually said......
I don't think he intervened at all... the "out" side were the ones there were saying and were so confident a UK-US trade deal would be done quick smart, then doesn't the head of the US get a right to reply on that one?
Of course he can reply, as the results of the sky news poll shows it is playing right into the Brexit sides favour.
Obama can say "Britain will be at the back of the queue for a trade deal if you leave the EU" if he wants (so much for the special relationship and being our closet ally hey). Fact is Obama won't be president much longer and future Presidential candidates are taking a different tone and saying different things to Obama. "A Sky news poll? Surely we can't draw a proper conclusion until we've seen the results from The Mad Christian Science Television Network. | |||
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"Just saw a poll on sky news, question : should Obama intervene in the EU referendum... He should not - 60% Yes he should - 29% Looks like his intervention could work to the Brexit sides favour after all. thats cherry picking what was actually said......
I don't think he intervened at all... the "out" side were the ones there were saying and were so confident a UK-US trade deal would be done quick smart, then doesn't the head of the US get a right to reply on that one?
Of course he can reply, as the results of the sky news poll shows it is playing right into the Brexit sides favour.
Obama can say "Britain will be at the back of the queue for a trade deal if you leave the EU" if he wants (so much for the special relationship and being our closet ally hey). Fact is Obama won't be president much longer and future Presidential candidates are taking a different tone and saying different things to Obama.
A Sky news poll?
Surely we can't draw a proper conclusion until we've seen the results from The Mad Christian Science Television Network."Keep trolling it's the only thing you are any good at. | |||
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"So everyone has been spouting off about how leaving won't make any difference to our ability to make deals around the world. Everyone is seeking something that supports their argument from across the planet of soothsayers that give their opinions. Obama give his opinion and apparently he's wrong. It's an opinion presented from his point of view on what he knows he would like to see and what he knows American business and government want to see. " its the default position.. anyone, no matter what their position or experience is wrong unless they say what Brexit agree with.. does make one wonder how some of them have remained in office thus far if they are so wrong.. its beginning to sound like a child stamping its feet and ranting rather than accept what is being said.. | |||
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"Just saw a poll on sky news, question : should Obama intervene in the EU referendum... He should not - 60% Yes he should - 29% Looks like his intervention could work to the Brexit sides favour after all. thats cherry picking what was actually said......
I don't think he intervened at all... the "out" side were the ones there were saying and were so confident a UK-US trade deal would be done quick smart, then doesn't the head of the US get a right to reply on that one?
Of course he can reply, as the results of the sky news poll shows it is playing right into the Brexit sides favour.
Obama can say "Britain will be at the back of the queue for a trade deal if you leave the EU" if he wants (so much for the special relationship and being our closet ally hey). Fact is Obama won't be president much longer and future Presidential candidates are taking a different tone and saying different things to Obama.
A Sky news poll?
Surely we can't draw a proper conclusion until we've seen the results from The Mad Christian Science Television Network.
Keep trolling it's the only thing you are any good at. "
Serious question: You are so evidently consumed by a desire to leave the EU (fair enough), how will you cope if the vote is to remain? Will you accept the result as a decent English chap should? | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course. I wonder if he was referring to the fact that a lot of Amercans believe that Obama did not legally qualify to run for president and apparently still refuses to answer questions about his past... Ha hAAA! Hilarious. WHAT have you been smoking(or reading)? If you're referring to what I think you're referring to, Obama publicly ridiculed Trump at a dinner they were both at. In front of the nation's press. Who laughed. A lot. You need to watch this. Even more hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4 There is an old saying, he who laughs last laughs loudest. Trump is laughing at Obama now with each and every vote he gains. " I ain't. The guys a nut. I don't even think it's an act any more. Scarier than Thatcher's skeleton in a wedding dress. | |||
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"Just saw a poll on sky news, question : should Obama intervene in the EU referendum... He should not - 60% Yes he should - 29% Looks like his intervention could work to the Brexit sides favour after all. thats cherry picking what was actually said......
I don't think he intervened at all... the "out" side were the ones there were saying and were so confident a UK-US trade deal would be done quick smart, then doesn't the head of the US get a right to reply on that one?
Of course he can reply, as the results of the sky news poll shows it is playing right into the Brexit sides favour.
Obama can say "Britain will be at the back of the queue for a trade deal if you leave the EU" if he wants (so much for the special relationship and being our closet ally hey). Fact is Obama won't be president much longer and future Presidential candidates are taking a different tone and saying different things to Obama.
A Sky news poll?
Surely we can't draw a proper conclusion until we've seen the results from The Mad Christian Science Television Network."Agreed, Sky, 'impartiality', and 'news'. We live in a scary arse world . | |||
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"Just saw a poll on sky news, question : should Obama intervene in the EU referendum... He should not - 60% Yes he should - 29% Looks like his intervention could work to the Brexit sides favour after all. thats cherry picking what was actually said......
I don't think he intervened at all... the "out" side were the ones there were saying and were so confident a UK-US trade deal would be done quick smart, then doesn't the head of the US get a right to reply on that one?
Of course he can reply, as the results of the sky news poll shows it is playing right into the Brexit sides favour.
Obama can say "Britain will be at the back of the queue for a trade deal if you leave the EU" if he wants (so much for the special relationship and being our closet ally hey). Fact is Obama won't be president much longer and future Presidential candidates are taking a different tone and saying different things to Obama.
A Sky news poll?
Surely we can't draw a proper conclusion until we've seen the results from The Mad Christian Science Television Network.
Keep trolling it's the only thing you are any good at.
Serious question: You are so evidently consumed by a desire to leave the EU (fair enough), how will you cope if the vote is to remain? Will you accept the result as a decent English chap should?"Probably not
Hence why I'm giving up on trying to talk to anyone for brexit unless they are (like any person who likes a debate) willing to consider the other argument | |||
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"Just saw a poll on sky news, question : should Obama intervene in the EU referendum... He should not - 60% Yes he should - 29% Looks like his intervention could work to the Brexit sides favour after all. thats cherry picking what was actually said......
I don't think he intervened at all... the "out" side were the ones there were saying and were so confident a UK-US trade deal would be done quick smart, then doesn't the head of the US get a right to reply on that one?
Of course he can reply, as the results of the sky news poll shows it is playing right into the Brexit sides favour.
Obama can say "Britain will be at the back of the queue for a trade deal if you leave the EU" if he wants (so much for the special relationship and being our closet ally hey). Fact is Obama won't be president much longer and future Presidential candidates are taking a different tone and saying different things to Obama.
A Sky news poll?
Surely we can't draw a proper conclusion until we've seen the results from The Mad Christian Science Television Network.
Agreed, Sky, 'impartiality', and 'news'.
We live in a scary arse world ."You mean like the BBC (British Biased corporation). | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course. I wonder if he was referring to the fact that a lot of Amercans believe that Obama did not legally qualify to run for president and apparently still refuses to answer questions about his past... Ha hAAA! Hilarious. WHAT have you been smoking(or reading)? If you're referring to what I think you're referring to, Obama publicly ridiculed Trump at a dinner they were both at. In front of the nation's press. Who laughed. A lot. You need to watch this. Even more hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4 Sorry, where did it say I believed ? I just said I wonder if that what he was alluding to? " The dot dot dot at the end of your comment left me to infer that you agreed with Boris. And,more pertinently, that you agree,like many Americans did, that he wasn't eligible to run for Prez due to some birth certificate nonsense. | |||
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"Just saw a poll on sky news, question : should Obama intervene in the EU referendum... He should not - 60% Yes he should - 29% Looks like his intervention could work to the Brexit sides favour after all. thats cherry picking what was actually said......
I don't think he intervened at all... the "out" side were the ones there were saying and were so confident a UK-US trade deal would be done quick smart, then doesn't the head of the US get a right to reply on that one?
Of course he can reply, as the results of the sky news poll shows it is playing right into the Brexit sides favour.
Obama can say "Britain will be at the back of the queue for a trade deal if you leave the EU" if he wants (so much for the special relationship and being our closet ally hey). Fact is Obama won't be president much longer and future Presidential candidates are taking a different tone and saying different things to Obama.
A Sky news poll?
Surely we can't draw a proper conclusion until we've seen the results from The Mad Christian Science Television Network.
Agreed, Sky, 'impartiality', and 'news'.
We live in a scary arse world .
You mean like the BBC (British Biased corporation). "For such a staunch nationalist like yourself doesn't that analogy of the BBC hold any wait with you? | |||
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"Just saw a poll on sky news, question : should Obama intervene in the EU referendum... He should not - 60% Yes he should - 29% Looks like his intervention could work to the Brexit sides favour after all. thats cherry picking what was actually said......
I don't think he intervened at all... the "out" side were the ones there were saying and were so confident a UK-US trade deal would be done quick smart, then doesn't the head of the US get a right to reply on that one?
Of course he can reply, as the results of the sky news poll shows it is playing right into the Brexit sides favour.
Obama can say "Britain will be at the back of the queue for a trade deal if you leave the EU" if he wants (so much for the special relationship and being our closet ally hey). Fact is Obama won't be president much longer and future Presidential candidates are taking a different tone and saying different things to Obama.
A Sky news poll?
Surely we can't draw a proper conclusion until we've seen the results from The Mad Christian Science Television Network.
Keep trolling it's the only thing you are any good at.
Serious question: You are so evidently consumed by a desire to leave the EU (fair enough), how will you cope if the vote is to remain? Will you accept the result as a decent English chap should?"I believe in democracy that's one of the reasons why I want to leave the EU because it is so undemocratic so yes I will accept the result as a democrat. I also believe in the British value of a sense of fair play so It would be nice to have a level playing field though without the likes of David Cameron loading the dice and sending out £9 million quids worth of pro EU propaganda leaflets funded by the taxpayer. The referendum is clearly not being done with a sense of fair play. | |||
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" There is an old saying, he who laughs last laughs loudest. Trump is laughing at Obama now with each and every vote he gains. Do you actually support Donald Trump? actually.... this is an interesting question......lets see what centaur says... i'd love to hear which of donalds policys he agrees with..... It was a good question, however much like Mr Trump and David Duke. Centaur has yet refused to condemn Donald. " Eh? Did you just say Trump should condemn himself??? That makes no sense at all.
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"Just saw a poll on sky news, question : should Obama intervene in the EU referendum... He should not - 60% Yes he should - 29% Looks like his intervention could work to the Brexit sides favour after all. I would never believe that you of all people would deliberately cherry pick your sky news poll results. So here's the bit that you must have accidentally lost: Sky Data also asked whether Barack Obama’s support for Britain to remain in the EU made them more or less likely to vote to remain, with 25% saying 'more', 17% saying 'less', and 57% saying that it would make 'no difference'. Looks like his intervention could work to the remain sides favour after all. " It's late on a Friday night, sounds like you've had one too many sherries. The difference between 17% and 25% is a lot less than the difference between the 60% and 29% poll. So yes its obviously more to the Brexit sides advantage. | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course. I wonder if he was referring to the fact that a lot of Amercans believe that Obama did not legally qualify to run for president and apparently still refuses to answer questions about his past... Ha hAAA! Hilarious. WHAT have you been smoking(or reading)? If you're referring to what I think you're referring to, Obama publicly ridiculed Trump at a dinner they were both at. In front of the nation's press. Who laughed. A lot. You need to watch this. Even more hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4 Sorry, where did it say I believed ? I just said I wonder if that what he was alluding to? The dot dot dot at the end of your comment left me to infer that you agreed with Boris. And,more pertinently, that you agree,like many Americans did, that he wasn't eligible to run for Prez due to some birth certificate nonsense." I just left it open, the anti Obama Americans have lots of other questions that they claim he refuses to answer. I don't particularly like him or his wife but find it hard to believe that the USA would have let him get as far as he did without plenty of background checks. When it comes down to it, it doesn't actually matter whether it true or false. He has run the country for 8 years and nothing can change that. | |||
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"Just saw a poll on sky news, question : should Obama intervene in the EU referendum... He should not - 60% Yes he should - 29% Looks like his intervention could work to the Brexit sides favour after all. I would never believe that you of all people would deliberately cherry pick your sky news poll results. So here's the bit that you must have accidentally lost: Sky Data also asked whether Barack Obama’s support for Britain to remain in the EU made them more or less likely to vote to remain, with 25% saying 'more', 17% saying 'less', and 57% saying that it would make 'no difference'. Looks like his intervention could work to the remain sides favour after all. It's late on a Friday night, sounds like you've had one too many sherries. The difference between 17% and 25% is a lot less than the difference between the 60% and 29% poll. So yes its obviously more to the Brexit sides advantage. " Dream on. | |||
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"Just saw a poll on sky news, question : should Obama intervene in the EU referendum... He should not - 60% Yes he should - 29% Looks like his intervention could work to the Brexit sides favour after all. thats cherry picking what was actually said......
I don't think he intervened at all... the "out" side were the ones there were saying and were so confident a UK-US trade deal would be done quick smart, then doesn't the head of the US get a right to reply on that one?
Of course he can reply, as the results of the sky news poll shows it is playing right into the Brexit sides favour.
Obama can say "Britain will be at the back of the queue for a trade deal if you leave the EU" if he wants (so much for the special relationship and being our closet ally hey). Fact is Obama won't be president much longer and future Presidential candidates are taking a different tone and saying different things to Obama.
A Sky news poll?
Surely we can't draw a proper conclusion until we've seen the results from The Mad Christian Science Television Network.
Agreed, Sky, 'impartiality', and 'news'.
We live in a scary arse world .
You mean like the BBC (British Biased corporation). "They're a bit crap I know(with the news at least. Especially on the telly), So i agree with that. However. Compared to Sky.... Jesus man! If you value the news, why on Earth would anyone in their right mind watch Sky? That is, if they wanted the most impartial news possible? | |||
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"Just saw a poll on sky news, question : should Obama intervene in the EU referendum... He should not - 60% Yes he should - 29% Looks like his intervention could work to the Brexit sides favour after all. I would never believe that you of all people would deliberately cherry pick your sky news poll results. So here's the bit that you must have accidentally lost: Sky Data also asked whether Barack Obama’s support for Britain to remain in the EU made them more or less likely to vote to remain, with 25% saying 'more', 17% saying 'less', and 57% saying that it would make 'no difference'. Looks like his intervention could work to the remain sides favour after all. It's late on a Friday night, sounds like you've had one too many sherries. The difference between 17% and 25% is a lot less than the difference between the 60% and 29% poll. So yes its obviously more to the Brexit sides advantage. Dream on." I don't need to dream the figures are there in black and white, you just listed them yourself. | |||
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"Just saw a poll on sky news, question : should Obama intervene in the EU referendum... He should not - 60% Yes he should - 29% Looks like his intervention could work to the Brexit sides favour after all. I would never believe that you of all people would deliberately cherry pick your sky news poll results. So here's the bit that you must have accidentally lost: Sky Data also asked whether Barack Obama’s support for Britain to remain in the EU made them more or less likely to vote to remain, with 25% saying 'more', 17% saying 'less', and 57% saying that it would make 'no difference'. Looks like his intervention could work to the remain sides favour after all. It's late on a Friday night, sounds like you've had one too many sherries. The difference between 17% and 25% is a lot less than the difference between the 60% and 29% poll. So yes its obviously more to the Brexit sides advantage. Dream on. I don't need to dream the figures are there in black and white, you just listed them yourself. "Project fantasy is strong with this one tonight | |||
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"He's a busted flush, he has less than a year in office, every day his power diminishes a little more. By Christmas he will be gone. Don't forget his Kenyan father was anti British and the sentiment lives on in Obama Yes Obama's time as President will soon be over anyway so kind of makes his opinion irrelevant. It's the future presidential candidates opinions that matter and both the Republican candidates have said they want to strengthen ties with the UK even if we are out of the EU. Donald Trump said in an interview he thinks UK will leave the EU. Donald Trump! You may as well include the opinion of Barry Chuckle for all the relevance it has. Nice to see Boris highlighting the inherent racism at the heart of the Leave campaign though, by deciding to highlight that Obama is part-Kenyan for no justifiable reason. How long will it be before the Leavers just come out with it and say that Obama should keep his nose out of our affairs because he's black? That's what they really mean, of course. I wonder if he was referring to the fact that a lot of Amercans believe that Obama did not legally qualify to run for president and apparently still refuses to answer questions about his past... Ha hAAA! Hilarious. WHAT have you been smoking(or reading)? If you're referring to what I think you're referring to, Obama publicly ridiculed Trump at a dinner they were both at. In front of the nation's press. Who laughed. A lot. You need to watch this. Even more hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4 Sorry, where did it say I believed ? I just said I wonder if that what he was alluding to? The dot dot dot at the end of your comment left me to infer that you agreed with Boris. And,more pertinently, that you agree,like many Americans did, that he wasn't eligible to run for Prez due to some birth certificate nonsense. I just left it open, the anti Obama Americans have lots of other questions that they claim he refuses to answer. I don't particularly like him or his wife but find it hard to believe that the USA would have let him get as far as he did without plenty of background checks. When it comes down to it, it doesn't actually matter whether it true or false. He has run the country for 8 years and nothing can change that. " Hmm. Then unless you're essentially saying that Boris is stupid twat/shit stirrer I don't get what your post was trying to say?!? Soz. Been up since half five and I've had a few.. | |||
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"Just saw a poll on sky news, question : should Obama intervene in the EU referendum... He should not - 60% Yes he should - 29% Looks like his intervention could work to the Brexit sides favour after all. I would never believe that you of all people would deliberately cherry pick your sky news poll results. So here's the bit that you must have accidentally lost: Sky Data also asked whether Barack Obama’s support for Britain to remain in the EU made them more or less likely to vote to remain, with 25% saying 'more', 17% saying 'less', and 57% saying that it would make 'no difference'. Looks like his intervention could work to the remain sides favour after all. It's late on a Friday night, sounds like you've had one too many sherries. The difference between 17% and 25% is a lot less than the difference between the 60% and 29% poll. So yes its obviously more to the Brexit sides advantage. Dream on. I don't need to dream the figures are there in black and white, you just listed them yourself. "you read the figures to suit yourself..25% more lightly is ok in my book .. | |||
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"Just saw a poll on sky news, question : should Obama intervene in the EU referendum... He should not - 60% Yes he should - 29% Looks like his intervention could work to the Brexit sides favour after all. I would never believe that you of all people would deliberately cherry pick your sky news poll results. So here's the bit that you must have accidentally lost: Sky Data also asked whether Barack Obama’s support for Britain to remain in the EU made them more or less likely to vote to remain, with 25% saying 'more', 17% saying 'less', and 57% saying that it would make 'no difference'. Looks like his intervention could work to the remain sides favour after all. It's late on a Friday night, sounds like you've had one too many sherries. The difference between 17% and 25% is a lot less than the difference between the 60% and 29% poll. So yes its obviously more to the Brexit sides advantage. Dream on. I don't need to dream the figures are there in black and white, you just listed them yourself.
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"Just saw a poll on sky news, question : should Obama intervene in the EU referendum... He should not - 60% Yes he should - 29% Looks like his intervention could work to the Brexit sides favour after all. I would never believe that you of all people would deliberately cherry pick your sky news poll results. So here's the bit that you must have accidentally lost: Sky Data also asked whether Barack Obama’s support for Britain to remain in the EU made them more or less likely to vote to remain, with 25% saying 'more', 17% saying 'less', and 57% saying that it would make 'no difference'. Looks like his intervention could work to the remain sides favour after all. It's late on a Friday night, sounds like you've had one too many sherries. The difference between 17% and 25% is a lot less than the difference between the 60% and 29% poll. So yes its obviously more to the Brexit sides advantage. Dream on. I don't need to dream the figures are there in black and white, you just listed them yourself. you read the figures to suit yourself..25% more lightly is ok in my book .."
In fantasy land 17% is more than 25%
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" There is an old saying, he who laughs last laughs loudest. Trump is laughing at Obama now with each and every vote he gains. Do you actually support Donald Trump? . I would support sanders as I'm a progressive liberal. I would not vote for Hillary as she's a hawkish and establishment, she's for the status quo. If your doing OK fine vote Hillary, if your not doing OK, id vote trump. Change comes from change not from somebody saying change, my reservation on that would be trump is likely to be the same old same old As absurd as that logic is, it fits the current polling statistics pretty well. The Democratic candidate which stands the best chance at beating Trump is Sanders, not Clinton. I think the American public are desperate for some drastic change. " . It's not really as absurd as it sounds and it's not just America, people are looking for something different, they can see that the current system has failed them for 40 year plus, it's no good just saying your all racists, policies make people racist just like some policies make people homeless and foreign policies make people stateless!. I'm not going to vote for somebody because there the lesser of two evils, we've had that for 40 years and it's done jack shit. Look at this country everybody votes Tory then labour then Tory then labour and very little actually fucking changes, sure you'll get a little more spending under labour and sure you'll get a little tax break under the Tories but in reality you get screwed over by both!. Look the greens offer an alternative, sure you pay more but you get more, the ukipers offer pay less get less with less regulation... There both workable I just think for me,I wanna pay more and live in a decent country with services, proper services with real alternative public transport, not this oh well do this train or that bus... That's bollocks everybody knows public transport is shit and expensive and it really doesn't have to be that way, the same goes for utilities and healthcare and schools... The establishment make it shit, because that's their best chance at convincing the gullible hard working not really got time for politics public, that privatisation will be dandy. . So know I'm not voting Hillary because she's better than trump and I'm not voting for the EU because it's better than the crock of shit we get at Westminster year after fucking year. I'm voting out then I'm voting green and then I'm rioting. In that order and I'm not compromising for some lesser fucking evil!. The wealthy are getting wealthier and the poor are getting poorer and that's not a good sign for any decent democracy | |||
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"Just saw a poll on sky news, question : should Obama intervene in the EU referendum... He should not - 60% Yes he should - 29% Looks like his intervention could work to the Brexit sides favour after all. I would never believe that you of all people would deliberately cherry pick your sky news poll results. So here's the bit that you must have accidentally lost: Sky Data also asked whether Barack Obama’s support for Britain to remain in the EU made them more or less likely to vote to remain, with 25% saying 'more', 17% saying 'less', and 57% saying that it would make 'no difference'. Looks like his intervention could work to the remain sides favour after all. It's late on a Friday night, sounds like you've had one too many sherries. The difference between 17% and 25% is a lot less than the difference between the 60% and 29% poll. So yes its obviously more to the Brexit sides advantage. Dream on. I don't need to dream the figures are there in black and white, you just listed them yourself.
Project fantasy is strong with this one tonight
It's no fantasy either, the results of the poll are very easy to find on sky news website.
In fantasy land 17% is more than 25%. "In reality land the difference between 29% and 60% is 31%...The difference between 17% and 25% is 8% In fantasy land Man4you thinks 8% difference is more than 31% difference. | |||
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" There is an old saying, he who laughs last laughs loudest. Trump is laughing at Obama now with each and every vote he gains. Do you actually support Donald Trump? . I would support sanders as I'm a progressive liberal. I would not vote for Hillary as she's a hawkish and establishment, she's for the status quo. If your doing OK fine vote Hillary, if your not doing OK, id vote trump. Change comes from change not from somebody saying change, my reservation on that would be trump is likely to be the same old same old As absurd as that logic is, it fits the current polling statistics pretty well. The Democratic candidate which stands the best chance at beating Trump is Sanders, not Clinton. I think the American public are desperate for some drastic change. " .. Actually while I'm ranting, yes it's just fine for the middle class educated folk out there to slag everyone of as racist!. But what we've actually seen is about 5 to 7 million people in this country who have been in recession for 40 years, in real terms their net wage buys less and less every year, imagine if doctors heaven forbid had been in recession for 40 years or dentists or condescending self described middle class council workers... Do you think there'd be any less racist than the working class tit competing with Romanians for 7.10 an hour... Yeah fuck you, you middle class condescending pricks with your... No immigrant ever stole a job of somebody with two gcse and an sti... Fuck off, like everybody in society is going to be a brain surgeon and we'll just import scum from now on to do menial shit!! Anything to Save me 2p tax and give me another weeks holiday in Morocco... You ladedas make me wanna cringe more than a council estate chav on benefits any day... At least there fucking honest with their intentions. . . So yeah the current shit hasn't worked very well for a large section of society, sure you can call them white van drivers with st Georges crosses or working class Dick's without an education or kippers or whatever it takes to make you feel better about yourself but don't fucking tell me that the greatest thing since sliced bread is the EU... Yes for you it's worked fucking dandy but for vast swathes in the UK and in many other European countries it's failed them, just like every other free trade deal going, just like many other government policies from schooling to transport to energy... Something as simple as electricity, where the poorest pay on pen meters sticking a tenner on at a time with a tariff thats 30% higher and a standing charge of 3 quid a week even if they don't use any electric at all. . . So yeah go off and pat yourselves on the back for being great wonderful fucking humans who were lucky enough to get an education and a middle class career but don't fucking lecture the working class on political choices. | |||
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I've always said the Leave side have more passion than the half hearted remainers too. I'm not too sure the remain in middle classes are that well educated though as my post above showed Man4you thinks an 8% difference on one sky news poll is more than 31% difference on the other poll. | |||
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