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By *aturelover2016 OP   Man
over a year ago

London

Three options

In

Out

Undecided

Let's see where we are the moment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shake it all about.....

Sorry, couldn't resist

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By *aturelover2016 OP   Man
over a year ago

London


"Shake it all about.....

Sorry, couldn't resist

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Ha ha, had to be done!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In

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By *usrock_SullyMan
over a year ago

norwich

Out

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Two ins here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

undecided

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

An out and an undecided

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By *tillup4funMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

Out

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By *aturelover2016 OP   Man
over a year ago

London

If we get enough should give us a bloody good idea of the result as we are such a diverse bunch!

Will tot up the results later

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

In, duh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Undecided but leaning towards in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In - both

We like to have jobs

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By *exyFusionCouple
over a year ago

Near to you

Both in

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In ... both of us.

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By *ofUs4UCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

Both in.

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

In

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Keep it in and stay in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out; (always ready for a challenge)

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By *aul DeUther-OneMan
over a year ago

Sussex

No brainer (for me): IN!

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

100% In

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm 100% in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

In, it's the future.

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By *an_WoodMan
over a year ago

Stafford

In

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i was allways going to vote out and after all the scaremongering from the in campaign and that stupid leaflet of propaganda i am even more determined to vote out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In

Obviously not many Daily mail readers in here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In

Obviously not many Daily mail readers in here "

nobody reads the daily fail

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

In

Would much rather work with our European friends to fix something that is unquestionably good, but which needs attention.

I don't do "throwing away" particularly when the message is also invariably crouched in a dislike for foreigners (see 'Vote Leave' Facebook page). Not in my name.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In

For the sake of the environment

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By *icksfocusMan
over a year ago

Pontefract

Out

Definitely out we need to get our identity back

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Categorically IN

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Both 100% In, natch.

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By *LT22Man
over a year ago

Teddington

Out for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hello Too Hot,

"Would much rather work with our European friends to fix something that is unquestionably good, but which needs attention."

Our politicians have tried that since we first joined, with no or little success. There's no chance it will change, except for the worse.

Do none of you 'In' voters care that you are governed by an unelected commission who want a totally federal Europe?

OUT and the sooner the better.

Alec

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By *adyboy-DaddyCouple
over a year ago

Andover

Both In.

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By *aturelover2016 OP   Man
over a year ago

London

Results so far

IN - 66%

OUT - 28%

UNDECIDED - 6%

Not as close as the polls say.

Think will send results to the Daily Mail just to piss them off on several levels!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Another In here.

A lot of people I know still seem to be innies too. Just to provide a balance to all the people who keep stating that they're voting to leave, as is their wife, their mother, their milkman and their entire social circle.

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By *ngel n tedCouple
over a year ago

maidstone

Out x2

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

In

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Another In here.

A lot of people I know still seem to be innies too. Just to provide a balance to all the people who keep stating that they're voting to leave, as is their wife, their mother, their milkman and their entire social circle."

Everyone from my "Europe is Great" club are voting In, apart from one bloke who like to be contrary.

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By *ongton loversCouple
over a year ago

stokeontrent


"Hello Too Hot,

"Would much rather work with our European friends to fix something that is unquestionably good, but which needs attention."

Our politicians have tried that since we first joined, with no or little success. There's no chance it will change, except for the worse.

Do none of you 'In' voters care that you are governed by an unelected commission who want a totally federal Europe?

OUT and the sooner the better.

Alec"

2 outs here, sick of the scaremongering from the in campaign

We want our country back..

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Undecided

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm definitely - IN!!

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By *ilderMan
over a year ago

dublin

Ye'd be nuts to leave

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Results so far

IN - 66%

OUT - 28%

UNDECIDED - 6%

Not as close as the polls say.

Think will send results to the Daily Mail just to piss them off on several levels!"

Most of the outers will probably still be at work doing something useful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I work for a German company, so I'm in

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

Both In. Also hoping that people who want to leave Europe will do the decent thing and leave Europe when the Remain campaign wins.

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By *adyGardenWoman
over a year ago

LONDON (se)

Who cares it will be fixed anyway and we will stay in. I've seen adverts for voting in but not a single one for out.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Who cares it will be fixed anyway and we will stay in. I've seen adverts for voting in but not a single one for out. "

What are you hoping the advert will tell you? You seem to be aware of the choices!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Both In. Also hoping that people who want to leave Europe will do the decent thing and leave Europe when the Remain campaign wins. "

A perfect example of those who don't know what they'll be voting for, nor the difference between a continent and a corrupt international organisation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely in. Without a doubt.

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By *ertsguy2000Man
over a year ago

hertford

Definitely out, happy to be part of Europe, love the culture and history, but firmly believe we are better off deciding our own destiny.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Both In. Also hoping that people who want to leave Europe will do the decent thing and leave Europe when the Remain campaign wins.

A perfect example of those who don't know what they'll be voting for, nor the difference between a continent and a corrupt international organisation."

You seem to be mistaking me for someone who isn't prepared to play fast and loose with geopolitical terms to get a perfect dig in!

I'll play though.., if we leave Europe, which non-corrupt organisation do you assume will be taking the place of our current government?

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By *adyGardenWoman
over a year ago

LONDON (se)


"Who cares it will be fixed anyway and we will stay in. I've seen adverts for voting in but not a single one for out.

What are you hoping the advert will tell you? You seem to be aware of the choices! "

That's my point I'm fully aware of what we are told about the benefits of staying in and I think a lot is just lies. I know nothing about the benefits or negatives of opting out.

All I know is if we stay in my Daughter will save 70k on uni fees as she can go to Dublin where higher education is free if you live within the EU.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Who cares it will be fixed anyway and we will stay in. I've seen adverts for voting in but not a single one for out.

What are you hoping the advert will tell you? You seem to be aware of the choices!

That's my point I'm fully aware of what we are told about the benefits of staying in and I think a lot is just lies. I know nothing about the benefits or negatives of opting out.

All I know is if we stay in my Daughter will save 70k on uni fees as she can go to Dublin where higher education is free if you live within the EU. "

Okay, I'll help you out. There are no benefits to opting out, and the negatives are that we will be not part of the EU any more.

You sound like you have a pretty compelling reason for voting to remain. Protect your wallet!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

changed my mind, I have lost my mojo, lost my will to live and aim to be gutless for the future, so with that im going to vote "IN"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who cares it will be fixed anyway and we will stay in. I've seen adverts for voting in but not a single one for out.

What are you hoping the advert will tell you? You seem to be aware of the choices!

That's my point I'm fully aware of what we are told about the benefits of staying in and I think a lot is just lies. I know nothing about the benefits or negatives of opting out.

All I know is if we stay in my Daughter will save 70k on uni fees as she can go to Dublin where higher education is free if you live within the EU.

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You sound like you have a pretty compelling reason for voting to remain. Protect your wallet! "

In or Out, University education in Scotland is free, but then so are prescriptions, free personal care in old age,free eye tests, To top it all, Scottish students pay no tuition fees, even if they attend a university in England.

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Even taking into account greater levels of deprivation in Scotland, people north of the border receive more public funds per head, yet pay less tax.

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sounds good to me; and you can buy some bloody amazing homes with lots of land for £500k

or a wee 1 bedroom flat in London

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By *uckoo clockCouple
over a year ago

Merseyside

Out !!

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"changed my mind, I have lost my mojo, lost my will to live and aim to be gutless for the future, so with that im going to vote "IN""

But the Remain campaign are brave people who look forward to a bright European future with pride and optimism! Doesn't really sound like you to be honest.

On the other hand, the Leave campaign are scared of 'foreigns', scared of thinking for themselves and scared of facts and figures that are open to rational examination. Maybe that's more your style?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's an out from me 100%

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We will be out and the result won't even be close

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

I cannot see the point of paying all that money now that the late Sir Terry Wogan is no longer available. Graham Norton isn't quite as good.

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By *tretchygirl and tintinWoman
over a year ago

Dartford

In

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By *horehouseCouple
over a year ago

dissatisfied

In for us 2

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"If we get enough should give us a bloody good idea of the result as we are such a diverse bunch!

Will tot up the results later"

Just thought I should inform you the last 3 threads of this nature I've commented on in the past have all ended up with a win for the "Leave" side.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

OUT will be my vote.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Undecided

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By *aturelover2016 OP   Man
over a year ago

London

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By *aturelover2016 OP   Man
over a year ago

London

Well my swingometer has been working overtime and the votes have been counted and verified.

The results of the FAB Straw Poll are

IN - 61%

OUT - 32%

UNDECIDED - 7%

So in the words of my last meet when she asked 'are we in yet'? The answers would appear to be yes.

For all the outies, don't shoot the messenger!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

More out than Alan Carr, Julian clary, Graham Norton, Elton john and liberace combined.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

check the locations of the IN voters

interesting, looks like the BBC pole is correct

London & South vote IN

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"check the locations of the IN voters

interesting, looks like the BBC pole is correct

London & South vote IN"

In fairness those kinda polls aren't really ones to stick by

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out.

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By *adyGardenWoman
over a year ago

LONDON (se)

I really am on the fence as I honestly don't think much will change if we leave. But for pure selfish reasons I will probably vote in so my daughter gets the great free higher education she deserves. Dublin university is perfect for what she wants to do with her life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No interest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out

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By *iforfun999Man
over a year ago

Haverfordwest

In, but asking on here, I'd expect more outs, with the option to block Europe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Results so far

IN - 66%

OUT - 28%

UNDECIDED - 6%

Not as close as the polls say.

Think will send results to the Daily Mail just to piss them off on several levels!

Most of the outers will probably still be at work doing something useful "

I was going to comment on the above thing about outers being at work doing something useful but cant be bothered.

Im in.

The EEC is far from perfect but what large organisation is? We need to work to improve it instead of moaning about it. How easy it is to forget about the positive aspects and concentrate on some negatives. Even Boris has had to admit he has exaggerated the stories about EEC taking our sovereinty away.

Most of these stories come from the sun, the mail and the telegraph (they dont deserve capitals). Who owns them and what are their agendas? Its hardly even handed reporting from those papers......good news dosnt sell ....maybe you are being manipulated? Press and media de regulation.....less rights for employees... are what those

owners want.

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By *ongton loversCouple
over a year ago

stokeontrent


"Results so far

IN - 66%

OUT - 28%

UNDECIDED - 6%

Not as close as the polls say.

Think will send results to the Daily Mail just to piss them off on several levels!

Most of the outers will probably still be at work doing something useful

I was going to comment on the above thing about outers being at work doing something useful but cant be bothered.

Im in.

The EEC is far from perfect but what large organisation is? We need to work to improve it instead of moaning about it. How easy it is to forget about the positive aspects and concentrate on some negatives. Even Boris has had to admit he has exaggerated the stories about EEC taking our sovereinty away.

Most of these stories come from the sun, the mail and the telegraph (they dont deserve capitals). Who owns them and what are their agendas? Its hardly even handed reporting from those papers......good news dosnt sell ....maybe you are being manipulated? Press and media de regulation.....less rights for employees... are what those

owners want.

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The EEC... Thought we were voting on membership of the EU..

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By *iceguymkMan
over a year ago

aylesbury


"In, it's the future. "

Thought garlic bread was !

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By *iceguymkMan
over a year ago

aylesbury

Gotta be out , were called great Britain not great Europe !!!!!!! Now lets have a cuppa tea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Simple it's an OUT

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out!

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

out

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By *ierced 2Couple
over a year ago

Village near Great Yarmouth

OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT"

A few more couples posting 'out' now. As some 'remain' couples have posted 2 remain votes because they are a couple, one for the female, and one for the male half of the couple, maybe a good idea if both halves of the leave couples post 2 votes as well for male and female.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT

A few more couples posting 'out' now. As some 'remain' couples have posted 2 remain votes because they are a couple, one for the female, and one for the male half of the couple, maybe a good idea if both halves of the leave couples post 2 votes as well for male and female. "

Oh ye, OUT- C

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The EEC... Thought we were voting on membership of the EU..

They are the same thing

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By *horehouseCouple
over a year ago

dissatisfied


"Gotta be out , were called great Britain not great Europe !!!!!!! Now lets have a cuppa tea "

What utter crap its the UNITED KINGDOM!!!!!

Great Britain was when we ruled the waves and had an empire .we lost all that long before joining the EEC. Don't waste an opportunity to show we are a united Europe.against the rest of the world ..

IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Gotta be out , were called great Britain not great Europe !!!!!!! Now lets have a cuppa tea "

I don't understand why we can't be Great Britain and in Europe? The two things aren't mutually exclusive

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Gotta be out , were called great Britain not great Europe !!!!!!! Now lets have a cuppa tea

I don't understand why we can't be Great Britain and in Europe? The two things aren't mutually exclusive "

You won't find much sense from Leavers.

If you want a laugh, take a look at the Vote Leave Campaign Director Dominic Cummings embarrassing himself completely in front of a parliamentary select committee, when he finds himself unable to answer any questions on the EU with any facts.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/20/accuracy-is-for-snake-oil-pussies-vote-leaves-campaign-director-defies-mps

He is so ill-informed, I'm surprised he's not posting on Fab!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Part of me wants to find out what would happen if we left,but I have grandchildren whose future I don't want to gamble with. So,I'm abstaining.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Part of me wants to find out what would happen if we left,but I have grandchildren whose future I don't want to gamble with. So,I'm abstaining. "

Leaving the decision to other people is the definition of gambling.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Part of me wants to find out what would happen if we left,but I have grandchildren whose future I don't want to gamble with. So,I'm abstaining. "

I've got an 8 year old neice, I don't want her growing up in a corrupt, undemocratic United States of Europe so I'm voting leave.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Part of me wants to find out what would happen if we left,but I have grandchildren whose future I don't want to gamble with. So,I'm abstaining.

I've got an 8 year old neice, I don't want her growing up in a corrupt, undemocratic United States of Europe so I'm voting leave. "

Some would argue no more or less trustworthy than the conservatives.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Gotta be out , were called great Britain not great Europe !!!!!!! Now lets have a cuppa tea

What utter crap its the UNITED KINGDOM!!!!!

Great Britain was when we ruled the waves and had an empire .we lost all that long before joining the EEC. Don't waste an opportunity to show we are a united Europe.against the rest of the world ..

IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...IN..."

Long before joining the EEC, what is your definition of Long? We had great links with the commonwealth right upto the point we shamefully turned our backs on them and joined the EEC. What a catastrophic mistake it was to do that, we should leave and reignite those historic links with the commonwealth.

Your last sentence "a united Europe against the rest of the world" is quite telling. Leaving the EU is about rejoining the rest of the world, not going against them like you want to do by staying in the EU.

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over a year ago


"Three options

In

Out

Undecided

Let's see where we are the moment "

pfft! this is just the political equivalent of suck, fuck or both!

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over a year ago


"Part of me wants to find out what would happen if we left,but I have grandchildren whose future I don't want to gamble with. So,I'm abstaining.

Leaving the decision to other people is the definition of gambling."

I'm a gambler then. I don't like making a decision about something I know very little about. I keep reading we should stay because of this or leave because of that,but they don't explain why it would happen. Even if they did it would be too much for my brain to comprehend. I'm probably thinking stay but I am wondering what the Eurocrats have in store for us,after we vote in. Time will tell.

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By *horehouseCouple
over a year ago

dissatisfied


"Gotta be out , were called great Britain not great Europe !!!!!!! Now lets have a cuppa tea

What utter crap its the UNITED KINGDOM!!!!!

Great Britain was when we ruled the waves and had an empire .we lost all that long before joining the EEC. Don't waste an opportunity to show we are a united Europe.against the rest of the world ..

IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...

Long before joining the EEC, what is your definition of Long? We had great links with the commonwealth right upto the point we shamefully turned our backs on them and joined the EEC. What a catastrophic mistake it was to do that, we should leave and reignite those historic links with the commonwealth.

Your last sentence "a united Europe against the rest of the world" is quite telling. Leaving the EU is about rejoining the rest of the world, not going against them like you want to do by staying in the EU. "
we gave India independence in 1947 way before the eec as with most of the rest of our empire ..long before the eec

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By *ongton loversCouple
over a year ago

stokeontrent


"Gotta be out , were called great Britain not great Europe !!!!!!! Now lets have a cuppa tea

What utter crap its the UNITED KINGDOM!!!!!

Great Britain was when we ruled the waves and had an empire .we lost all that long before joining the EEC. Don't waste an opportunity to show we are a united Europe.against the rest of the world ..

IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...IN..."

So if Great Britain doesn't exist as you're implying how come my passport states United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland....

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

out, unless we have to give up our free porn

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By *horehouseCouple
over a year ago

dissatisfied


"Gotta be out , were called great Britain not great Europe !!!!!!! Now lets have a cuppa tea

What utter crap its the UNITED KINGDOM!!!!!

Great Britain was when we ruled the waves and had an empire .we lost all that long before joining the EEC. Don't waste an opportunity to show we are a united Europe.against the rest of the world ..

IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...

So if Great Britain doesn't exist as you're implying how come my passport states United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.... "
google it great Briton is not a country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In

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By *uyfromchiMan
over a year ago

CHICHESTER

Out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Both In. Also hoping that people who want to leave Europe will do the decent thing and leave Europe when the Remain campaign wins.

A perfect example of those who don't know what they'll be voting for, nor the difference between a continent and a corrupt international organisation."
Well said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

2x..out.

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By *ongton loversCouple
over a year ago

stokeontrent


"Gotta be out , were called great Britain not great Europe !!!!!!! Now lets have a cuppa tea

What utter crap its the UNITED KINGDOM!!!!!

Great Britain was when we ruled the waves and had an empire .we lost all that long before joining the EEC. Don't waste an opportunity to show we are a united Europe.against the rest of the world ..

IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...

So if Great Britain doesn't exist as you're implying how come my passport states United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.... google it great Briton is not a country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Nobody said great Briton!

Have I missed something here lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

cahoots

Out

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over a year ago

Straw poll done on ex-army friend's facebook.. for serving soldier's and ex-army..870 voted.....out-835.....in-35

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over a year ago


"Gotta be out , were called great Britain not great Europe !!!!!!! Now lets have a cuppa tea

What utter crap its the UNITED KINGDOM!!!!!

Great Britain was when we ruled the waves and had an empire .we lost all that long before joining the EEC. Don't waste an opportunity to show we are a united Europe.against the rest of the world ..

IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...IN..."

And they accuse the brexiters of jingoism

We want the UK with the world!

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over a year ago

The out campaign promises a rosey utopian vision of patriotism and Britan being great.

It looks to the past not the future. Our past wasnt actually that great....our empire was based on killing and stealing from other countries. We were more commercial and technologically advanced vikings really. A small percentage of people in this country became very wealthy and enjoyed the benefits of our habit of invading other countries. Life was pretty grim for the rest of the country...the peasants.....the soldiers and the sailors.

Many people have commented on the lack of informed debate....on the negativity from both sides....this negativity is increasingly polarising the country and even fab. Lol

The main issue for the leave campaign is the lack of a business plan or road map for the future. If BP, Amazon, google or any large company wanted to fundamentally alter their business and relationships their share holders would expect a detailed anaysis and business plan.....The Directors wouldnt even contemplate not doing so.

How Boris and co can contemplate doing this with a country and nearly 60 million people I dont know. Its like staking all our futures on hope and a hand of cards we havnt even been dealt.

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"The out campaign promises a rosey utopian vision of patriotism and Britan being great.

It looks to the past not the future. Our past wasnt actually that great....our empire was based on killing and stealing from other countries. We were more commercial and technologically advanced vikings really. A small percentage of people in this country became very wealthy and enjoyed the benefits of our habit of invading other countries. Life was pretty grim for the rest of the country...the peasants.....the soldiers and the sailors.

Many people have commented on the lack of informed debate....on the negativity from both sides....this negativity is increasingly polarising the country and even fab. Lol

The main issue for the leave campaign is the lack of a business plan or road map for the future. If BP, Amazon, google or any large company wanted to fundamentally alter their business and relationships their share holders would expect a detailed anaysis and business plan.....The Directors wouldnt even contemplate not doing so.

How Boris and co can contemplate doing this with a country and nearly 60 million people I dont know. Its like staking all our futures on hope and a hand of cards we havnt even been dealt.

"

You are so wrong. The out campaign are looking to the future not the past

It is the EU that are stuck in the past. They are trying to recreate the things that have failed before and that is why they are failing now.

Does nobody read the unemployment figures coming out of the EU? The fact that their trade with the world is dropping? The fact that soon the banks will be charging them to hold on to their money? Etc etc etc. Its had it

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"The out campaign promises a rosey utopian vision of patriotism and Britan being great.

It looks to the past not the future. Our past wasnt actually that great....our empire was based on killing and stealing from other countries. We were more commercial and technologically advanced vikings really. A small percentage of people in this country became very wealthy and enjoyed the benefits of our habit of invading other countries. Life was pretty grim for the rest of the country...the peasants.....the soldiers and the sailors.

Many people have commented on the lack of informed debate....on the negativity from both sides....this negativity is increasingly polarising the country and even fab. Lol

The main issue for the leave campaign is the lack of a business plan or road map for the future. If BP, Amazon, google or any large company wanted to fundamentally alter their business and relationships their share holders would expect a detailed anaysis and business plan.....The Directors wouldnt even contemplate not doing so.

How Boris and co can contemplate doing this with a country and nearly 60 million people I dont know. Its like staking all our futures on hope and a hand of cards we havnt even been dealt.

You are so wrong. The out campaign are looking to the future not the past

It is the EU that are stuck in the past. They are trying to recreate the things that have failed before and that is why they are failing now.

Does nobody read the unemployment figures coming out of the EU? The fact that their trade with the world is dropping? The fact that soon the banks will be charging them to hold on to their money? Etc etc etc. Its had it"

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By *horehouseCouple
over a year ago

dissatisfied


"Gotta be out , were called great Britain not great Europe !!!!!!! Now lets have a cuppa tea

What utter crap its the UNITED KINGDOM!!!!!

Great Britain was when we ruled the waves and had an empire .we lost all that long before joining the EEC. Don't waste an opportunity to show we are a united Europe.against the rest of the world ..

IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...

And they accuse the brexiters of jingoism

We want the UK with the world!"
but just not Europe then ? Build trading relations with countries like china with their unfair trading tariffs..be good to trade with a real democratic nation eeehhhhhh .

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By *ongton loversCouple
over a year ago

stokeontrent


"Straw poll done on ex-army friend's facebook.. for serving soldier's and ex-army..870 voted.....out-835.....in-35"

Nice to see how our brave patriotic lads and lasses want to vote

But hold on our brave servicemen

The in campaigners here will probably want you to serve in the proposed Euro army with herr Merkel the head of the army

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over a year ago


"Gotta be out , were called great Britain not great Europe !!!!!!! Now lets have a cuppa tea

What utter crap its the UNITED KINGDOM!!!!!

Great Britain was when we ruled the waves and had an empire .we lost all that long before joining the EEC. Don't waste an opportunity to show we are a united Europe.against the rest of the world ..

IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...

And they accuse the brexiters of jingoism

We want the UK with the world! but just not Europe then ? Build trading relations with countries like china with their unfair trading tariffs..be good to trade with a real democratic nation eeehhhhhh ."

What does democracy have to do with trade?

And the world includes Europe

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By *horehouseCouple
over a year ago

dissatisfied


"Gotta be out , were called great Britain not great Europe !!!!!!! Now lets have a cuppa tea

What utter crap its the UNITED KINGDOM!!!!!

Great Britain was when we ruled the waves and had an empire .we lost all that long before joining the EEC. Don't waste an opportunity to show we are a united Europe.against the rest of the world ..

IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...

And they accuse the brexiters of jingoism

We want the UK with the world! but just not Europe then ? Build trading relations with countries like china with their unfair trading tariffs..be good to trade with a real democratic nation eeehhhhhh .

What does democracy have to do with trade?

And the world includes Europe "
so you must be an in vote then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Straw poll done on ex-army friend's facebook.. for serving soldier's and ex-army..870 voted.....out-835.....in-35

Nice to see how our brave patriotic lads and lasses want to vote

But hold on our brave servicemen

The in campaigners here will probably want you to serve in the proposed Euro army with herr Merkel the head of the army "
One in voter on here recommend's they leave Europe and live somewhere else if they vote out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

out and

Out

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By *atelotmanMan
over a year ago

Chatham

out out out out out out out

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Gotta be out , were called great Britain not great Europe !!!!!!! Now lets have a cuppa tea

What utter crap its the UNITED KINGDOM!!!!!

Great Britain was when we ruled the waves and had an empire .we lost all that long before joining the EEC. Don't waste an opportunity to show we are a united Europe.against the rest of the world ..

IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...

And they accuse the brexiters of jingoism

We want the UK with the world! but just not Europe then ? Build trading relations with countries like china with their unfair trading tariffs..be good to trade with a real democratic nation eeehhhhhh .

What does democracy have to do with trade?

And the world includes Europe so you must be an in vote then "

No they already stated their voting intention which was out. The leave side want to be friends and trade with Europe, just not part of a corrupt and undemocratic club called the EU. A relationship on trade and trade alone (which is what the EU started off as), not what it has morphed and mutated into now a hiddious monstrosity of ever closer political union and monetary union, and what it proposes to become in future (a united states of Europe) is even more sinister.

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

Mart - out

Jayne - out

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

Had enough....Out

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By *andkCouple
over a year ago

Wisbech

Out x 2

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The out campaign promises a rosey utopian vision of patriotism and Britan being great.

It looks to the past not the future. Our past wasnt actually that great....our empire was based on killing and stealing from other countries. We were more commercial and technologically advanced vikings really. A small percentage of people in this country became very wealthy and enjoyed the benefits of our habit of invading other countries. Life was pretty grim for the rest of the country...the peasants.....the soldiers and the sailors.

Many people have commented on the lack of informed debate....on the negativity from both sides....this negativity is increasingly polarising the country and even fab. Lol

The main issue for the leave campaign is the lack of a business plan or road map for the future. If BP, Amazon, google or any large company wanted to fundamentally alter their business and relationships their share holders would expect a detailed anaysis and business plan.....The Directors wouldnt even contemplate not doing so.

How Boris and co can contemplate doing this with a country and nearly 60 million people I dont know. Its like staking all our futures on hope and a hand of cards we havnt even been dealt.

You are so wrong. The out campaign are looking to the future not the past

It is the EU that are stuck in the past. They are trying to recreate the things that have failed before and that is why they are failing now.

Does nobody read the unemployment figures coming out of the EU? The fact that their trade with the world is dropping? The fact that soon the banks will be charging them to hold on to their money? Etc etc etc. Its had it"

Lol

What future...they cant even articulate or describe this future

Where is their business plan. I can understand wanting changebut surely we deserve a detailed plan of the change rather than its all going to be better and britan will be great again. Thats child like in its ambition ...and description.

If your boss said to you. Im going to change all your terms of employment...or you bank said we are changing the terms of your mortgage.....you dont have to know the details.....in fact we dont have any....but dont worry...it will all be better for you!

Would you say ....yes great?

Its not that getting out of europe per se is a bad idea.....its that these advoctes of doing so.....Gove....Boris....the telegraph...murdoch papers etc.....cant tell us how ...what ...when.....and they dont really have the interests of the average persin at heart. They all have millions stashed away. They will be fine whatever happens......its a massive gamble for the majority of us.....betting on a game of cards without even seeing the hand we have been dealt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

IN

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

In

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Four OUTS in my household

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By *iceguymkMan
over a year ago

aylesbury


"Gotta be out , were called great Britain not great Europe !!!!!!! Now lets have a cuppa tea

What utter crap its the UNITED KINGDOM!!!!!

Great Britain was when we ruled the waves and had an empire .we lost all that long before joining the EEC. Don't waste an opportunity to show we are a united Europe.against the rest of the world ..

IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...

So if Great Britain doesn't exist as you're implying how come my passport states United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.... "

THANK YOU !!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Undecided.

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By *horehouseCouple
over a year ago

dissatisfied


"Gotta be out , were called great Britain not great Europe !!!!!!! Now lets have a cuppa tea

What utter crap its the UNITED KINGDOM!!!!!

Great Britain was when we ruled the waves and had an empire .we lost all that long before joining the EEC. Don't waste an opportunity to show we are a united Europe.against the rest of the world ..

IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...

So if Great Britain doesn't exist as you're implying how come my passport states United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland....

THANK YOU !!!!!!"
great Briton is a geological place not a country don't argue just google it !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By *iceguymkMan
over a year ago

aylesbury


"Gotta be out , were called great Britain not great Europe !!!!!!! Now lets have a cuppa tea

What utter crap its the UNITED KINGDOM!!!!!

Great Britain was when we ruled the waves and had an empire .we lost all that long before joining the EEC. Don't waste an opportunity to show we are a united Europe.against the rest of the world ..

IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...IN...

So if Great Britain doesn't exist as you're implying how come my passport states United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland....

THANK YOU !!!!!!great Briton is a geological place not a country don't argue just google it !!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Ok we are the united kingdom !!! Not the united kingdom with Europe added on the side

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Undecided, but my gut instinct is to go against anything Michael Gove says is a good idea, the man's an idiot

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

Out.

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By *horehouseCouple
over a year ago

dissatisfied

I want to see I decisive win which ever side wins ...

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By *uffolkJPMan
over a year ago

Suffolk

Has to be status quo!! In

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over a year ago

Out

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By *ikerP1000Man
over a year ago

Durham

OUT

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By *ittie4UCouple
over a year ago

Watford


"Three options

In

Out

Undecided

Let's see where we are the moment "

For the next generation. For Britain looking forward towards the twenty-first century, not backwards, outward looking and confident, playing a powerful role in the world.

Two INs here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Three options

In

Out

Undecided

Let's see where we are the moment "
.

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.

.

Ohhh democracy, it's a great idea on paper!.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In. And for those saying we need to get our identity back; you don't lose your identity by being part of a larger conglomerate of people unless you allow your identity to be stripped from you.

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over a year ago

In

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By *adyGardenWoman
over a year ago

LONDON (se)


"Gotta be out , were called great Britain not great Europe !!!!!!! Now lets have a cuppa tea "

There has been nothing Great about Britain for many a year. May, just maybe, pulling out will make our nation great once again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Straw poll done on ex-army friend's facebook.. for serving soldier's and ex-army..870 voted.....out-835.....in-35"

This doesn't really prove anything. That's not a particularly diverse sample to provide adequate data.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Straw poll done on ex-army friend's facebook.. for serving soldier's and ex-army..870 voted.....out-835.....in-35"

Hardly surprising, is it? The Leave campaign appeals squarely to people who think we are defined by our flag, and will follow anyone who waves it at them.

Remain supporters are a little more sophisticated than that, fortunately.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

Worth keeping this highlighted if you get frustrated by Leave supporters on here being unable to come up with any facts to back up their arguments, just variations on 'everything will be better'.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/20/accuracy-is-for-snake-oil-pussies-vote-leaves-campaign-director-defies-mps

This is Dominic Cummings, the Campaign Director of Vote Leave, being unable to answer a single question about Europe put to him by a parliamentary committee with any knowledge or facts...for three whole hours.

And he is a lot better informed than your average Leave supporter, that's for sure!

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By *aturelover2016 OP   Man
over a year ago

London

Right you sexy lot

I've tried to total all the definitive votes.

Some of you have been In, some out and some have shaken it all about.

My swingometer has been working overtime (but that's another story!!)

After 116 votes I think we can take something from this and see how close we are to the actual result.

IN - 50%

OUT - 42.5%

UNDECIDED - 7.5%

Now that's sorted we can get on with trying to get laid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Straw poll done on ex-army friend's facebook.. for serving soldier's and ex-army..870 voted.....out-835.....in-35

Hardly surprising, is it? The Leave campaign appeals squarely to people who think we are defined by our flag, and will follow anyone who waves it at them.

Remain supporters are a little more sophisticated than that, fortunately."

And what do you wave, a white one? Maybe they have a little more experience of life and its problems on the continent than you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Straw poll done on ex-army friend's facebook.. for serving soldier's and ex-army..870 voted.....out-835.....in-35

Hardly surprising, is it? The Leave campaign appeals squarely to people who think we are defined by our flag, and will follow anyone who waves it at them.

Remain supporters are a little more sophisticated than that, fortunately.

And what do you wave, a white one? Maybe they have a little more experience of life and its problems on the continent than you "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Straw poll done on ex-army friend's facebook.. for serving soldier's and ex-army..870 voted.....out-835.....in-35

Hardly surprising, is it? The Leave campaign appeals squarely to people who think we are defined by our flag, and will follow anyone who waves it at them.

Remain supporters are a little more sophisticated than that, fortunately."

Arrogant and pompous more like

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Straw poll done on ex-army friend's facebook.. for serving soldier's and ex-army..870 voted.....out-835.....in-35

Hardly surprising, is it? The Leave campaign appeals squarely to people who think we are defined by our flag, and will follow anyone who waves it at them.

Remain supporters are a little more sophisticated than that, fortunately.

And what do you wave, a white one? Maybe they have a little more experience of life and its problems on the continent than you "

Spoken like a true jingoist. God Save the Queen! Kill the foreigns!

Anything I missed from the Leave campaign there? I think I covered it all, didn't I?

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By *horehouseCouple
over a year ago

dissatisfied


"Straw poll done on ex-army friend's facebook.. for serving soldier's and ex-army..870 voted.....out-835.....in-35

Hardly surprising, is it? The Leave campaign appeals squarely to people who think we are defined by our flag, and will follow anyone who waves it at them.

Remain supporters are a little more sophisticated than that, fortunately.

And what do you wave, a white one? Maybe they have a little more experience of life and its problems on the continent than you

"
no we live with our European cousins ... its definitely the bulldog spirit union flag waving out that apeals to the out supporters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Straw poll done on ex-army friend's facebook.. for serving soldier's and ex-army..870 voted.....out-835.....in-35

Hardly surprising, is it? The Leave campaign appeals squarely to people who think we are defined by our flag, and will follow anyone who waves it at them.

Remain supporters are a little more sophisticated than that, fortunately.

And what do you wave, a white one? Maybe they have a little more experience of life and its problems on the continent than you

no we live with our European cousins ... its definitely the bulldog spirit union flag waving out that apeals to the out supporters "

You may want to live with your European cousins but sorry I don't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lots of in and out.Well it is swinging site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Straw poll done on ex-army friend's facebook.. for serving soldier's and ex-army..870 voted.....out-835.....in-35

Hardly surprising, is it? The Leave campaign appeals squarely to people who think we are defined by our flag, and will follow anyone who waves it at them.

Remain supporters are a little more sophisticated than that, fortunately.

"

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By *enuinedannyMan
over a year ago

walsall

Out

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over a year ago


"Out "

still undecided

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Straw poll done on ex-army friend's facebook.. for serving soldier's and ex-army..870 voted.....out-835.....in-35

Hardly surprising, is it? The Leave campaign appeals squarely to people who think we are defined by our flag, and will follow anyone who waves it at them.

Remain supporters are a little more sophisticated than that, fortunately.

Arrogant and pompous more like

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You forgot cowardly and wimpish

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