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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

We joined this site as a male/female couple , yet its been changed to a male/male couple. I play as a girl so I feel like a girl and not a male x x

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

At least it's honest now.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Contact the site admin and air your issues maybe they will change it back again....maybe they changed it as technically you are still a guy but I can't answer for them...however it would be worth contacting admin.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Contact admin and report the issue?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At least it's honest now."

Wrong!

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley


"At least it's honest now.

Wrong! "

Do explain.

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By *northernsoulMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"At least it's honest now."

Completely out of order.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At least it's honest now.

Wrong!

Do explain."

The tv/ts identifies as the gender they assign themselves and in fab they do the same, to imply that how they identify is wrong is not just massively insensitive its also wholly abusive. Its an attitude that has no place in this world

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley


"At least it's honest now.

Wrong!

Do explain.

The tv/ts identifies as the gender they assign themselves and in fab they do the same, to imply that how they identify is wrong is not just massively insensitive its also wholly abusive. Its an attitude that has no place in this world"

So it's not two males then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know neither FM or MM are accurate for you, but looking at it from the perspective of the majority of the site users who specifically search for FM couples, MM is more accurate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At least it's honest now.

Wrong!

Do explain.

The tv/ts identifies as the gender they assign themselves and in fab they do the same, to imply that how they identify is wrong is not just massively insensitive its also wholly abusive. Its an attitude that has no place in this world"

Abusive?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At least it's honest now.

Wrong!

Do explain.

The tv/ts identifies as the gender they assign themselves and in fab they do the same, to imply that how they identify is wrong is not just massively insensitive its also wholly abusive. Its an attitude that has no place in this world"

Well said....

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Happy Monday peeps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At least it's honest now.

Wrong!

Do explain.

The tv/ts identifies as the gender they assign themselves and in fab they do the same, to imply that how they identify is wrong is not just massively insensitive its also wholly abusive. Its an attitude that has no place in this world

Abusive? "

Yes, its classed as abuse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

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By *ancs MinxWoman
over a year ago

Burnley


"I know neither FM or MM are accurate for you, but looking at it from the perspective of the majority of the site users who specifically search for FM couples, MM is more accurate."

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it "

x x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"At least it's honest now.

Wrong!

Do explain.

The tv/ts identifies as the gender they assign themselves and in fab they do the same, to imply that how they identify is wrong is not just massively insensitive its also wholly abusive. Its an attitude that has no place in this world

Well said...."

Thank you x x

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By *radleyandRavenCouple
over a year ago

Herts


"I know neither FM or MM are accurate for you, but looking at it from the perspective of the majority of the site users who specifically search for FM couples, MM is more accurate."

This.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"At least it's honest now.

Wrong!

Do explain.

The tv/ts identifies as the gender they assign themselves and in fab they do the same, to imply that how they identify is wrong is not just massively insensitive its also wholly abusive. Its an attitude that has no place in this world"

Totally agree, let's not turn into North Carolina...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"At least it's honest now.

Wrong!

Do explain.

The tv/ts identifies as the gender they assign themselves and in fab they do the same, to imply that how they identify is wrong is not just massively insensitive its also wholly abusive. Its an attitude that has no place in this world

Totally agree, let's not turn into North Carolina... "

x x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So, OP, because at the moment the site doesn't allow you to set TV/Ts as one of the genders in your couple profile, can't you see why setting your profile as MF would be seen as misrepresentation to the majority of couples, males and females looking for an MF couple to meet?

Do you disagree?

Or do you think it's not a misrepresentation if you show up in the MF searches?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 18/04/16 08:31:54]

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So, OP, because at the moment the site doesn't allow you to set TV/Ts as one of the genders in your couple profile, can't you see why setting your profile as MF would be seen as misrepresentation to the majority of couples, males and females looking for an MF couple to meet?

Do you disagree?

Or do you think it's not a misrepresentation if you show up in the MF searches? "

Our profile name is tv sally and boyfriend. I don't see how it could be classed as misrepresentation when it clearly states who we are xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't really see that the site has done anything wrong to be honest as the OP are indeed 2 males even if one identifies as a TV/TS.

What is the problem ? All you do is explain in you're profile then everyone knows

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So, OP, because at the moment the site doesn't allow you to set TV/Ts as one of the genders in your couple profile, can't you see why setting your profile as MF would be seen as misrepresentation to the majority of couples, males and females looking for an MF couple to meet?

Do you disagree?

Or do you think it's not a misrepresentation if you show up in the MF searches?

Our profile name is tv sally and boyfriend. I don't see how it could be classed as misrepresentation when it clearly states who we are xx"

Have you got a penis or a vagina?

If you have got a penis you are male if you have a vagina you are female......there thats that sorted,have nice day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

x x"

or other with a space for explanation

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By *otblondewife hornyMrCouple
over a year ago

Cambuslang

You say you "play as a girl" when I play with a girl I have vaginal intercourse.

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By *iverpool LoverMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Forgive my ignorance but your profile is tv sally and boyfriend, is tv/cd not people that live life as a guy but dress up sometimes where as TS are people that are going through the transition and life live as female 24/7.

If your profile was ts sally and boyfriend I would say mf couple was correct but as it stands I think mm couple is more acurate because you do live your life (or at least partly do) as a guy.

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By *otblondewife hornyMrCouple
over a year ago

Cambuslang

You say you "play as a girl" when I play with a girl I have vaginal intercourse.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it "

This would seem to help a lot.

The fact that searches are regarded as the issue by many posters though is a bit too narrow. This site is supposed to be for broadminded, liberal people, so the OP should be able to be what they want to be. They are in no way misrepresenting themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

x x

or other with a space for explanation "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can see why they have changed it, as it is not a female/male profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's funny how the people who aren't as open minded on this matter are straight 50+ males. More opinionated and small minded than younger folk. This is not a dig at older members by the way, simply these two.

While the site is technically within its rights to do so I would I certainly would not expect them to search out and target a couple living happily as man an woman. This is fab, a place where we can be who the real world won't allow us to be. There is also a good chance that someone complained

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You play as a girl .... does that mean you cant throw a cricket ball correctly and was always the last player picked when choosing teams at football and always ended up in the goal ?

N.B its only a joke statement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

x x

or other with a space for explanation "

Exactly this ^^

I think if people are looking for the F part of a MF search to have a vagina with the best will in the world I assume you don't have that.

Hope you can find a solution

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And... out of the woodwork cone the insensitive and the bigoted. Glad there is a good amount of supportive posters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think they should be allowed a M/F profile. They clearly state in their profile they are a tv and a male.

Anyone who turns up to a meet with them and feels mislead should really start bloody reading profiles. Grr.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"It's funny how the people who aren't as open minded on this matter are straight 50+ males. More opinionated and small minded than younger folk. This is not a dig at older members by the way, simply these two.

While the site is technically within its rights to do so I would I certainly would not expect them to search out and target a couple living happily as man an woman. This is fab, a place where we can be who the real world won't allow us to be. There is also a good chance that someone complained "

I didn't spend my time fighting discrimination throughout the 80's to see it come back again now! Totally agree with you. Some of the comments on here are unbeleivable!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It does seem a bit strange that a singles profile can have TV/TS but as soon as they have a couples profile they can only use M or F

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think they should be allowed a M/F profile. They clearly state in their profile they are a tv and a male.

Anyone who turns up to a meet with them and feels mislead should really start bloody reading profiles. Grr."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And... out of the woodwork cone the insensitive and the bigoted. Glad there is a good amount of supportive posters."

Also from the woodwork comes the people jumping on the people holding a difference of option

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Forgive my ignorance but your profile is tv sally and boyfriend, is tv/cd not people that live life as a guy but dress up sometimes where as TS are people that are going through the transition and life live as female 24/7.

If your profile was ts sally and boyfriend I would say mf couple was correct but as it stands I think mm couple is more acurate because you do live your life (or at least partly do) as a guy.

"

Ahh but the part of their life where they are a girl is on Fab, so it's a bit weird to identify them as a guy here?

I know if I was a tv on fab, I would prefer to identify myself as a girl rather than a guy. Otherwise what would be the point of wearing a pretty dress and doing my makeup?

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By *otblondewife hornyMrCouple
over a year ago

Cambuslang


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

This would seem to help a lot.

The fact that searches are regarded as the issue by many posters though is a bit too narrow. This site is supposed to be for broadminded, liberal people, so the OP should be able to be what they want to be. They are in no way misrepresenting themselves."

I want to be six foot with an athletic build, doesn't mean I should put on my profile that I am.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So, to be fully inclusive and representative we need to request new classifications:

M

F

TV

TS

BI M

BI F

BI TV

BI TS

M/M

M/F

M/TV

M/TS

M/BI M

M/BI F

M/BI TV

M/BI TS

F/M

F/F

F/TV

F/TS

F/BI M

F/BI F

F/BI TV

M/BI TS

Which doesn't include those who are "orally bi" or mainly straight, but slightly wonky when the situation is conducive to something different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So, to be fully inclusive and representative we need to request new classifications:

M

F

TV

TS

BI M

BI F

BI TV

BI TS

M/M

M/F

M/TV

M/TS

M/BI M

M/BI F

M/BI TV

M/BI TS

F/M

F/F

F/TV

F/TS

F/BI M

F/BI F

F/BI TV

M/BI TS

Which doesn't include those who are "orally bi" or mainly straight, but slightly wonky when the situation is conducive to something different.

"

Shit... Apologies: I forgot, we also need TV and TS categories for female-to-male, because that is a group of people who we totally ignore.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At least it's honest now.

Wrong!

Do explain.

The tv/ts identifies as the gender they assign themselves and in fab they do the same, to imply that how they identify is wrong is not just massively insensitive its also wholly abusive. Its an attitude that has no place in this world"

I'm assuming that as fab has a category for TV/TS (and do not allow assignment as a fem) then the admin are not going to change the rules for half of a couple. They seem to stick to the biological fact that both partners in this couple are technically (and I assume legally) male regardless of how they choose to assign themselves.

They will not apply one rule to singles and a different one to half a couple. This has been an issue for transgender for a while.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And... out of the woodwork cone the insensitive and the bigoted. Glad there is a good amount of supportive posters.

Also from the woodwork comes the people jumping on the people holding a difference of option "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And... out of the woodwork cone the insensitive and the bigoted. Glad there is a good amount of supportive posters.

Also from the woodwork comes the people jumping on the people holding a difference of option "

Yep, that happens a lot too.

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman
over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!


"Forgive my ignorance but your profile is tv sally and boyfriend, is tv/cd not people that live life as a guy but dress up sometimes where as TS are people that are going through the transition and life live as female 24/7.

If your profile was ts sally and boyfriend I would say mf couple was correct but as it stands I think mm couple is more acurate because you do live your life (or at least partly do) as a guy.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i hold my hands up that when i first started here i may have had the reaction of some - i attend all ladies events that allow tv/ts there and i was unsure as to whether they should or not - so i talked to them and its not just a case of putting on a dress and walking amongst a club full of ladies and sex and getting a cheap thrill (their words not mine) - they live their life as a female - its very interesting to find out about and has helped me to understand

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

This would seem to help a lot.

The fact that searches are regarded as the issue by many posters though is a bit too narrow. This site is supposed to be for broadminded, liberal people, so the OP should be able to be what they want to be. They are in no way misrepresenting themselves.

I want to be six foot with an athletic build, doesn't mean I should put on my profile that I am."

Congratulations you've totally missed the point of the whole gender identification and assignment argument. But its ok, your comment was flippant

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By *miley-8-pinkCouple
over a year ago

Nr Taunton


"It does seem a bit strange that a singles profile can have TV/TS but as soon as they have a couples profile they can only use M or F "

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By *otblondewife hornyMrCouple
over a year ago

Cambuslang


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

This would seem to help a lot.

The fact that searches are regarded as the issue by many posters though is a bit too narrow. This site is supposed to be for broadminded, liberal people, so the OP should be able to be what they want to be. They are in no way misrepresenting themselves.

I want to be six foot with an athletic build, doesn't mean I should put on my profile that I am.

Congratulations you've totally missed the point of the whole gender identification and assignment argument. But its ok, your comment was flippant"

Surely the fact there is a gender identification and assignment argument then it's reasonable to say that not everyone agrees with everyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

This would seem to help a lot.

The fact that searches are regarded as the issue by many posters though is a bit too narrow. This site is supposed to be for broadminded, liberal people, so the OP should be able to be what they want to be. They are in no way misrepresenting themselves.

I want to be six foot with an athletic build, doesn't mean I should put on my profile that I am.

Congratulations you've totally missed the point of the whole gender identification and assignment argument. But its ok, your comment was flippant

Surely the fact there is a gender identification and assignment argument then it's reasonable to say that not everyone agrees with everyone."

Ha ha ha good point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

This would seem to help a lot.

The fact that searches are regarded as the issue by many posters though is a bit too narrow. This site is supposed to be for broadminded, liberal people, so the OP should be able to be what they want to be. They are in no way misrepresenting themselves.

I want to be six foot with an athletic build, doesn't mean I should put on my profile that I am.

Congratulations you've totally missed the point of the whole gender identification and assignment argument. But its ok, your comment was flippant

Surely the fact there is a gender identification and assignment argument then it's reasonable to say that not everyone agrees with everyone."

Yes, as in the equal rights argument, or apartheid argument, or civil liberties argument. People who fail to recognise others as they wish to be recognised.

Its usually based around fear or intolerance, crack a history book some time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But you are a mm couple despite how you feel. If I was looking for a mf couple I could come across your profile and be suprised to see you was both men. It's misleading. I'm not against your wishes but rules are rules on fab...and now I await to the abuse for my opinion lol.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

This would seem to help a lot.

The fact that searches are regarded as the issue by many posters though is a bit too narrow. This site is supposed to be for broadminded, liberal people, so the OP should be able to be what they want to be. They are in no way misrepresenting themselves.

I want to be six foot with an athletic build, doesn't mean I should put on my profile that I am.

Congratulations you've totally missed the point of the whole gender identification and assignment argument. But its ok, your comment was flippant

Surely the fact there is a gender identification and assignment argument then it's reasonable to say that not everyone agrees with everyone.

Ha ha ha good point"

Perhaps we should let those that don't neatly fit into the 'traditional' gender stereotypes make the call, rather than telling them to be what 'we' want them to be? Unless you are in this situation then it is unlikely that you will know what it feels like to be discriminated against.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"It does seem a bit strange that a singles profile can have TV/TS but as soon as they have a couples profile they can only use M or F "

this..

don't see the issue with having 'm/f couple' on their profile as they clearly state they are a tv/ts and bf..

where they not stating that then yes a m/f could mislead..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It does seem a bit strange that a singles profile can have TV/TS but as soon as they have a couples profile they can only use M or F "

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

This would seem to help a lot.

The fact that searches are regarded as the issue by many posters though is a bit too narrow. This site is supposed to be for broadminded, liberal people, so the OP should be able to be what they want to be. They are in no way misrepresenting themselves.

I want to be six foot with an athletic build, doesn't mean I should put on my profile that I am.

Congratulations you've totally missed the point of the whole gender identification and assignment argument. But its ok, your comment was flippant

Surely the fact there is a gender identification and assignment argument then it's reasonable to say that not everyone agrees with everyone.

Yes, as in the equal rights argument, or apartheid argument, or civil liberties argument. People who fail to recognise others as they wish to be recognised.

Its usually based around fear or intolerance, crack a history book some time"

Spot on!

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Trade descriptions Act come to mind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

way way back in our early days we chatted for a while with a lovely lady - wasnt until we had practically picked up the car keys and set off that she said she was a he really - pre op - nothing had been said or nothing on profile to indicate either - after we had a 'bit of a moan' a sentence was added to the profile to say what was what - that stayed there about a week and then deleted - profile then disappeared altogether - we dont have issue as long as its clear

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"way way back in our early days we chatted for a while with a lovely lady - wasnt until we had practically picked up the car keys and set off that she said she was a he really - pre op - nothing had been said or nothing on profile to indicate either - after we had a 'bit of a moan' a sentence was added to the profile to say what was what - that stayed there about a week and then deleted - profile then disappeared altogether - we dont have issue as long as its clear "

We've also met guys at clubs who didn't mention they were dick heads until they opened their mouths!!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

This would seem to help a lot.

The fact that searches are regarded as the issue by many posters though is a bit too narrow. This site is supposed to be for broadminded, liberal people, so the OP should be able to be what they want to be. They are in no way misrepresenting themselves.

I want to be six foot with an athletic build, doesn't mean I should put on my profile that I am."

its not about 'wanting to be', its whom they are when they actually meet..

if you did put that on your own then other's after meeting and deciding you told a porkie walked away would be within their rights IF that's whom they were seeking..

the OP is not saying they are not a male, they are saying that when they meet other's they are a tv/ts which allows other folks seeking said to make a choice..

where they not to state that and then when prospective play partners/singles meet they they would be less than honest..

which i'm pretty sure we would all agree would be wrong..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"way way back in our early days we chatted for a while with a lovely lady - wasnt until we had practically picked up the car keys and set off that she said she was a he really - pre op - nothing had been said or nothing on profile to indicate either - after we had a 'bit of a moan' a sentence was added to the profile to say what was what - that stayed there about a week and then deleted - profile then disappeared altogether - we dont have issue as long as its clear

We've also met guys at clubs who didn't mention they were dick heads until they opened their mouths!! "

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By *otblondewife hornyMrCouple
over a year ago

Cambuslang


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

This would seem to help a lot.

The fact that searches are regarded as the issue by many posters though is a bit too narrow. This site is supposed to be for broadminded, liberal people, so the OP should be able to be what they want to be. They are in no way misrepresenting themselves.

I want to be six foot with an athletic build, doesn't mean I should put on my profile that I am.

Congratulations you've totally missed the point of the whole gender identification and assignment argument. But its ok, your comment was flippant

Surely the fact there is a gender identification and assignment argument then it's reasonable to say that not everyone agrees with everyone.

Yes, as in the equal rights argument, or apartheid argument, or civil liberties argument. People who fail to recognise others as they wish to be recognised.

Its usually based around fear or intolerance, crack a history book some time"

Totally different issue. I in no way think tv/ts/tg people should be treated differently to anyone else (although I am aware that they are) I just don't believe because someone feels that they are a certain thing then that makes them that way.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

This would seem to help a lot.

The fact that searches are regarded as the issue by many posters though is a bit too narrow. This site is supposed to be for broadminded, liberal people, so the OP should be able to be what they want to be. They are in no way misrepresenting themselves.

I want to be six foot with an athletic build, doesn't mean I should put on my profile that I am.

Congratulations you've totally missed the point of the whole gender identification and assignment argument. But its ok, your comment was flippant

Surely the fact there is a gender identification and assignment argument then it's reasonable to say that not everyone agrees with everyone.

Yes, as in the equal rights argument, or apartheid argument, or civil liberties argument. People who fail to recognise others as they wish to be recognised.

Its usually based around fear or intolerance, crack a history book some time

Spot on! "

this..

if anything the OP and others having m/f couple on their profile with clearly stating tv/ts and bf allows people with such attitudes to stay the fuck away..

oops make an informed choice..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fabs doesn't handle gender and sexuality well at all - to be fair to them, classifying gender and sexuality is hard and is the subject of whole fields of research. And, of course, everyone has an opinion

I don't really like how everyone from a 'part-time crossdresser' to 'actually fully transitioned' is lumped into this kind of 'other' category. It seems demeaning. And of course (as in this case) the site doesn't consider the possibility of those people being part of a couple.

I mean, we're a straight-male/bi-female couple, and we have little interest in meeting anyone other than straight couples (or with bi ladies). In that way we're really part of the majority and the site works really well for us, but we can see how a non-inclusive attitude towards sex means it doesn't work well for others.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

This would seem to help a lot.

The fact that searches are regarded as the issue by many posters though is a bit too narrow. This site is supposed to be for broadminded, liberal people, so the OP should be able to be what they want to be. They are in no way misrepresenting themselves.

I want to be six foot with an athletic build, doesn't mean I should put on my profile that I am.

Congratulations you've totally missed the point of the whole gender identification and assignment argument. But its ok, your comment was flippant

Surely the fact there is a gender identification and assignment argument then it's reasonable to say that not everyone agrees with everyone.

Yes, as in the equal rights argument, or apartheid argument, or civil liberties argument. People who fail to recognise others as they wish to be recognised.

Its usually based around fear or intolerance, crack a history book some time

Totally different issue. I in no way think tv/ts/tg people should be treated differently to anyone else (although I am aware that they are) I just don't believe because someone feels that they are a certain thing then that makes them that way. "

Sorry but I disagree. This is the same issue. It is about how people feel and we need to respect that.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

This would seem to help a lot.

The fact that searches are regarded as the issue by many posters though is a bit too narrow. This site is supposed to be for broadminded, liberal people, so the OP should be able to be what they want to be. They are in no way misrepresenting themselves.

I want to be six foot with an athletic build, doesn't mean I should put on my profile that I am.

Congratulations you've totally missed the point of the whole gender identification and assignment argument. But its ok, your comment was flippant

Surely the fact there is a gender identification and assignment argument then it's reasonable to say that not everyone agrees with everyone.

Yes, as in the equal rights argument, or apartheid argument, or civil liberties argument. People who fail to recognise others as they wish to be recognised.

Its usually based around fear or intolerance, crack a history book some time

Totally different issue. I in no way think tv/ts/tg people should be treated differently to anyone else (although I am aware that they are) I just don't believe because someone feels that they are a certain thing then that makes them that way. "

but your attitude is none of their business, why not just have some respect and let them and others be whom they are or think they are or will be in time..?

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over a year ago


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

This would seem to help a lot.

The fact that searches are regarded as the issue by many posters though is a bit too narrow. This site is supposed to be for broadminded, liberal people, so the OP should be able to be what they want to be. They are in no way misrepresenting themselves.

I want to be six foot with an athletic build, doesn't mean I should put on my profile that I am.

Congratulations you've totally missed the point of the whole gender identification and assignment argument. But its ok, your comment was flippant

Surely the fact there is a gender identification and assignment argument then it's reasonable to say that not everyone agrees with everyone.

Yes, as in the equal rights argument, or apartheid argument, or civil liberties argument. People who fail to recognise others as they wish to be recognised.

Its usually based around fear or intolerance, crack a history book some time

Totally different issue. I in no way think tv/ts/tg people should be treated differently to anyone else (although I am aware that they are) I just don't believe because someone feels that they are a certain thing then that makes them that way.

but your attitude is none of their business, why not just have some respect and let them and others be whom they are or think they are or will be in time..?"
then people complain about fake profiles..telling someone you're a female when you're a man is a fake profile.

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By *oobsandballsMan
over a year ago

st andrews

The situation would be resolved if admin would just update their options.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

This would seem to help a lot.

The fact that searches are regarded as the issue by many posters though is a bit too narrow. This site is supposed to be for broadminded, liberal people, so the OP should be able to be what they want to be. They are in no way misrepresenting themselves.

I want to be six foot with an athletic build, doesn't mean I should put on my profile that I am.

Congratulations you've totally missed the point of the whole gender identification and assignment argument. But its ok, your comment was flippant

Surely the fact there is a gender identification and assignment argument then it's reasonable to say that not everyone agrees with everyone.

Yes, as in the equal rights argument, or apartheid argument, or civil liberties argument. People who fail to recognise others as they wish to be recognised.

Its usually based around fear or intolerance, crack a history book some time

Totally different issue. I in no way think tv/ts/tg people should be treated differently to anyone else (although I am aware that they are) I just don't believe because someone feels that they are a certain thing then that makes them that way.

but your attitude is none of their business, why not just have some respect and let them and others be whom they are or think they are or will be in time..?then people complain about fake profiles..telling someone you're a female when you're a man is a fake profile. "

Completely different issue. The OP is very clear on their profile. Don't try to tar them with this!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

This would seem to help a lot.

The fact that searches are regarded as the issue by many posters though is a bit too narrow. This site is supposed to be for broadminded, liberal people, so the OP should be able to be what they want to be. They are in no way misrepresenting themselves.

I want to be six foot with an athletic build, doesn't mean I should put on my profile that I am.

Congratulations you've totally missed the point of the whole gender identification and assignment argument. But its ok, your comment was flippant

Surely the fact there is a gender identification and assignment argument then it's reasonable to say that not everyone agrees with everyone.

Yes, as in the equal rights argument, or apartheid argument, or civil liberties argument. People who fail to recognise others as they wish to be recognised.

Its usually based around fear or intolerance, crack a history book some time

Totally different issue. I in no way think tv/ts/tg people should be treated differently to anyone else (although I am aware that they are) I just don't believe because someone feels that they are a certain thing then that makes them that way.

but your attitude is none of their business, why not just have some respect and let them and others be whom they are or think they are or will be in time..?then people complain about fake profiles..telling someone you're a female when you're a man is a fake profile. "

IF they didn't make it clear on the profile (as they have said repeatedly) that they are a tv/ts and bf then yes, BUT they do state that so not an issue?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

This would seem to help a lot.

The fact that searches are regarded as the issue by many posters though is a bit too narrow. This site is supposed to be for broadminded, liberal people, so the OP should be able to be what they want to be. They are in no way misrepresenting themselves.

I want to be six foot with an athletic build, doesn't mean I should put on my profile that I am.

Congratulations you've totally missed the point of the whole gender identification and assignment argument. But its ok, your comment was flippant

Surely the fact there is a gender identification and assignment argument then it's reasonable to say that not everyone agrees with everyone.

Yes, as in the equal rights argument, or apartheid argument, or civil liberties argument. People who fail to recognise others as they wish to be recognised.

Its usually based around fear or intolerance, crack a history book some time

Totally different issue. I in no way think tv/ts/tg people should be treated differently to anyone else (although I am aware that they are) I just don't believe because someone feels that they are a certain thing then that makes them that way.

but your attitude is none of their business, why not just have some respect and let them and others be whom they are or think they are or will be in time..?then people complain about fake profiles..telling someone you're a female when you're a man is a fake profile.

Completely different issue. The OP is very clear on their profile. Don't try to tar them with this!"
tar them with what??

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it "

I think it really is something the site owners need to look at. As a straight guy when I do a m/f couple search then I expect m/f couples to show up in the result, I don't want to be seeing m/tv/ts couples showing up in the results. M/tv/ts couples should have their own search criteria.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

This would seem to help a lot.

The fact that searches are regarded as the issue by many posters though is a bit too narrow. This site is supposed to be for broadminded, liberal people, so the OP should be able to be what they want to be. They are in no way misrepresenting themselves.

I want to be six foot with an athletic build, doesn't mean I should put on my profile that I am.

Congratulations you've totally missed the point of the whole gender identification and assignment argument. But its ok, your comment was flippant

Surely the fact there is a gender identification and assignment argument then it's reasonable to say that not everyone agrees with everyone.

Yes, as in the equal rights argument, or apartheid argument, or civil liberties argument. People who fail to recognise others as they wish to be recognised.

Its usually based around fear or intolerance, crack a history book some time

Totally different issue. I in no way think tv/ts/tg people should be treated differently to anyone else (although I am aware that they are) I just don't believe because someone feels that they are a certain thing then that makes them that way.

but your attitude is none of their business, why not just have some respect and let them and others be whom they are or think they are or will be in time..?then people complain about fake profiles..telling someone you're a female when you're a man is a fake profile.

Completely different issue. The OP is very clear on their profile. Don't try to tar them with this! tar them with what?? "

Just re-read..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why can't there be an option for a m/ tv couple ?

That would simply sort it

I think it really is something the site owners need to look at. As a straight guy when I do a m/f couple search then I expect m/f couples to show up in the result, I don't want to be seeing m/tv/ts couples showing up in the results. M/tv/ts couples should have their own search criteria. "
isn't that what I said?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Okay a T.V is basically a male with a desire to be seen as a female sometimes, a T.S on the other hand is someone of either sex who is sure of their sexuality and either going about changing it or has changed it.

The site allows TS people to have a profile in their chosen sex and not the sex they were born to, this is because they now are a true representation of their chosen sex.

TV's on the other hand are of their original born sex but have a desire to be seen and treated as the opposite sex from time to time, this is not a gender change merely an expression of their dual identity.

There are currently a few transsexual people on this site who rightly have a female or male profile because this accurately identifies them for whom they are, physically and outwardly in the real world as well as on Fab.

there are also several TV profiles under either male or female profiles that also accurately identify their "given" sex but gives them a place to explain their desire in their profile text.

ergo a TV- male couple would fall under the category of a male/male couple Where as a TS-male couple would legitimately be right to use a female/male profile.

If you apply the rule of you are who your are 24 hours a day then the profiling this site use's stands up.

It is hard to run a data base and set parameters that can take in to account all things without over complicating the search facility within that data base, and that is what FABSWINGERS truly is, a data base storing information for others to search for others of a like mind.

I personally think that ADMIN do a bloody good job of running this site on our behalf and I'm sure they too have a life outside this site too like all of us users.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

If you have an issue with the change made to your profile, you should contact Admin directly to discuss it with them.

As an aside, it's easily possible to discuss such a topic without resorting to name calling.

Let's leave it there.

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