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"My view is to then live life to the max and enjoy it while you can.... " Bless you Chops | |||
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"My view is to then live life to the max and enjoy it while you can.... Bless you Chops " Thank you father, does that mean I and repented of all my sins and I can now be sinful for a bit? | |||
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"Everything was created to have a natural balance and order on earth. Disease is just one of nature's way of species control. To thin out a species periodically to keep the natural balance and order. There will become a time when we will have no defence against new or existing diseases and viruses etc. It's the natural balance of things it can never be stopped maybe halted for a while but never stopped. Hence the recent news of antibiotics and other drugs being less and less effective until they cease to be effective at all. Any views on this Peeps? " You have a gross misunderstanding of biology? | |||
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"My view is to then live life to the max and enjoy it while you can.... Bless you Chops Thank you father, does that mean I and repented of all my sins and I can now be sinful for a bit? " No | |||
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"Everything was created to have a natural balance and order on earth. Disease is just one of nature's way of species control. To thin out a species periodically to keep the natural balance and order. There will become a time when we will have no defence against new or existing diseases and viruses etc. It's the natural balance of things it can never be stopped maybe halted for a while but never stopped. Hence the recent news of antibiotics and other drugs being less and less effective until they cease to be effective at all. Any views on this Peeps? " Antibiotics have become less effective for a number of reasons and yes, the strains that they once attacked and defeated have grown stronger, the unfortunate thing is we have been the engineers of our own destruction. First they have been oversubscribed (the antibiotics), leading to bacterial infections "knowing their enemy" sooner. Secondly when people are prescribed antibiotics, many do not complete the full course and stop when the symptoms of their illness disappear. Trace elements of the bacteria still exist in their system, which defeat the residual antibiotic and mutate or adapt to it. In the long term, the simple act of not completing a course (and wiping out the whole infection), has led to stronger resistance.... Fuck me I need a shag | |||
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"Everything was created to have a natural balance and order on earth. Disease is just one of nature's way of species control. To thin out a species periodically to keep the natural balance and order. There will become a time when we will have no defence against new or existing diseases and viruses etc. It's the natural balance of things it can never be stopped maybe halted for a while but never stopped. Hence the recent news of antibiotics and other drugs being less and less effective until they cease to be effective at all. Any views on this Peeps? Antibiotics have become less effective for a number of reasons and yes, the strains that they once attacked and defeated have grown stronger, the unfortunate thing is we have been the engineers of our own destruction. First they have been oversubscribed (the antibiotics), leading to bacterial infections "knowing their enemy" sooner. Secondly when people are prescribed antibiotics, many do not complete the full course and stop when the symptoms of their illness disappear. Trace elements of the bacteria still exist in their system, which defeat the residual antibiotic and mutate or adapt to it. In the long term, the simple act of not completing a course (and wiping out the whole infection), has led to stronger resistance.... Fuck me I need a shag" I enjoyed your post cheers | |||
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"Everything was created to have a natural balance and order on earth. Disease is just one of nature's way of species control. To thin out a species periodically to keep the natural balance and order. There will become a time when we will have no defence against new or existing diseases and viruses etc. It's the natural balance of things it can never be stopped maybe halted for a while but never stopped. Hence the recent news of antibiotics and other drugs being less and less effective until they cease to be effective at all. Any views on this Peeps? " I'm ready for the zombie apocalypse | |||
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"Whichever way you look at it, we're doomed. So lets all fuck like bunnies! " You and me baby ain't nothing but mammals... | |||
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"Whichever way you look at it, we're doomed. So lets all fuck like bunnies! " I agree | |||
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"Everything was created to have a natural balance and order on earth. Disease is just one of nature's way of species control. To thin out a species periodically to keep the natural balance and order. There will become a time when we will have no defence against new or existing diseases and viruses etc. It's the natural balance of things it can never be stopped maybe halted for a while but never stopped. Hence the recent news of antibiotics and other drugs being less and less effective until they cease to be effective at all. Any views on this Peeps? " Lets just hope that humankind continues to dig deep into it's reserves of knowledge and intelligence to find new ways to combat them then. The natural order is an exceptionally complex and difficult thing to understand, but lets just hope we can all do our bit to make the best of our places in it. | |||
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"They think Polio is about to be eradicated. It's only in high numbers Afghanistan and Pakistan now and they've just started using a different type of vaccine. They think that should wipe it out. Some people have natural immunities too. " Big problem in those regions is the people giving the vaccines keep getting killed by islamic terror groups. | |||
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"Whichever way you look at it, we're doomed. So lets all fuck like bunnies! I agree " I'm not one for philosophical conundrums. What use is natural immunity if I get hit by a bus tomorrow? | |||
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"Everything was created to have a natural balance and order on earth. Disease is just one of nature's way of species control. To thin out a species periodically to keep the natural balance and order. There will become a time when we will have no defence against new or existing diseases and viruses etc. It's the natural balance of things it can never be stopped maybe halted for a while but never stopped. Hence the recent news of antibiotics and other drugs being less and less effective until they cease to be effective at all. Any views on this Peeps? Lets just hope that humankind continues to dig deep into it's reserves of knowledge and intelligence to find new ways to combat them then. The natural order is an exceptionally complex and difficult thing to understand, but lets just hope we can all do our bit to make the best of our places in it." | |||
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"Whichever way you look at it, we're doomed. So lets all fuck like bunnies! I agree I'm not one for philosophical conundrums. What use is natural immunity if I get hit by a bus tomorrow? " Least you wont get tetanus from the rusty bumper :p | |||
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"Whichever way you look at it, we're doomed. So lets all fuck like bunnies! I agree I'm not one for philosophical conundrums. What use is natural immunity if I get hit by a bus tomorrow? " Sweet FA | |||
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"They think Polio is about to be eradicated. It's only in high numbers Afghanistan and Pakistan now and they've just started using a different type of vaccine. They think that should wipe it out. Some people have natural immunities too. Big problem in those regions is the people giving the vaccines keep getting killed by islamic terror groups." And friendly fire. America bombs MSF hospitals too. | |||
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"Whichever way you look at it, we're doomed. So lets all fuck like bunnies! I agree I'm not one for philosophical conundrums. What use is natural immunity if I get hit by a bus tomorrow? Least you wont get tetanus from the rusty bumper :p" I haven't had a tetanus booster since I was a kid. As I said, doomed. | |||
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"They think Polio is about to be eradicated. It's only in high numbers Afghanistan and Pakistan now and they've just started using a different type of vaccine. They think that should wipe it out. Some people have natural immunities too. Big problem in those regions is the people giving the vaccines keep getting killed by islamic terror groups. And friendly fire. America bombs MSF hospitals too. " Tbh I'm surprised America hasn't bombed Cardiff by mistake yet. | |||
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"Everything was created to have a natural balance and order on earth. Disease is just one of nature's way of species control. To thin out a species periodically to keep the natural balance and order. There will become a time when we will have no defence against new or existing diseases and viruses etc. It's the natural balance of things it can never be stopped maybe halted for a while but never stopped. Hence the recent news of antibiotics and other drugs being less and less effective until they cease to be effective at all. Any views on this Peeps? Antibiotics have become less effective for a number of reasons and yes, the strains that they once attacked and defeated have grown stronger, the unfortunate thing is we have been the engineers of our own destruction. First they have been oversubscribed (the antibiotics), leading to bacterial infections "knowing their enemy" sooner. Secondly when people are prescribed antibiotics, many do not complete the full course and stop when the symptoms of their illness disappear. Trace elements of the bacteria still exist in their system, which defeat the residual antibiotic and mutate or adapt to it. In the long term, the simple act of not completing a course (and wiping out the whole infection), has led to stronger resistance.... Fuck me I need a shag" This is my understanding of it, don't know about the shag part! | |||
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"Everything was created to have a natural balance and order on earth. Disease is just one of nature's way of species control. To thin out a species periodically to keep the natural balance and order. There will become a time when we will have no defence against new or existing diseases and viruses etc. It's the natural balance of things it can never be stopped maybe halted for a while but never stopped. Hence the recent news of antibiotics and other drugs being less and less effective until they cease to be effective at all. Any views on this Peeps? " Spot on | |||
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"Everything was created to have a natural balance and order on earth. Disease is just one of nature's way of species control. To thin out a species periodically to keep the natural balance and order. There will become a time when we will have no defence against new or existing diseases and viruses etc. It's the natural balance of things it can never be stopped maybe halted for a while but never stopped. Hence the recent news of antibiotics and other drugs being less and less effective until they cease to be effective at all. Any views on this Peeps? Antibiotics have become less effective for a number of reasons and yes, the strains that they once attacked and defeated have grown stronger, the unfortunate thing is we have been the engineers of our own destruction. First they have been oversubscribed (the antibiotics), leading to bacterial infections "knowing their enemy" sooner. Secondly when people are prescribed antibiotics, many do not complete the full course and stop when the symptoms of their illness disappear. Trace elements of the bacteria still exist in their system, which defeat the residual antibiotic and mutate or adapt to it. In the long term, the simple act of not completing a course (and wiping out the whole infection), has led to stronger resistance.... Fuck me I need a shag This is my understanding of it, don't know about the shag part! " I said oversubscribed instead of prescribed, which invalidates my whole point | |||
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"Everything was created to have a natural balance and order on earth. Disease is just one of nature's way of species control. To thin out a species periodically to keep the natural balance and order. There will become a time when we will have no defence against new or existing diseases and viruses etc. It's the natural balance of things it can never be stopped maybe halted for a while but never stopped. Hence the recent news of antibiotics and other drugs being less and less effective until they cease to be effective at all. Any views on this Peeps? " My view Humans have created a few biological organisms , but beyond that nothing was created to do anything The balance myth would be more accurately illustrated as a see saw that is usually tipped one way or other very rarely in biological history does balance occur Rat plagues illustrate this point Whilst there is grain they procreate until they eat sleep and shit all over each other , until all the food is gone then almost all die. Sound familiar? If the ops point is humans cannot control nature I'd agree If it is it was designed to be or is in perfect equilibrium I'd disagree | |||
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"Everything was created to have a natural balance and order on earth. Disease is just one of nature's way of species control. To thin out a species periodically to keep the natural balance and order. There will become a time when we will have no defence against new or existing diseases and viruses etc. It's the natural balance of things it can never be stopped maybe halted for a while but never stopped. Hence the recent news of antibiotics and other drugs being less and less effective until they cease to be effective at all. Any views on this Peeps? My view Humans have created a few biological organisms , but beyond that nothing was created to do anything The balance myth would be more accurately illustrated as a see saw that is usually tipped one way or other very rarely in biological history does balance occur Rat plagues illustrate this point Whilst there is grain they procreate until they eat sleep and shit all over each other , until all the food is gone then almost all die. Sound familiar? If the ops point is humans cannot control nature I'd agree If it is it was designed to be or is in perfect equilibrium I'd disagree " Good point but I never mentioned perfect equilibrium. My point was that nature has a way of balance eventually. | |||
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"Everything was created to have a natural balance and order on earth. Disease is just one of nature's way of species control. To thin out a species periodically to keep the natural balance and order. There will become a time when we will have no defence against new or existing diseases and viruses etc. It's the natural balance of things it can never be stopped maybe halted for a while but never stopped. Hence the recent news of antibiotics and other drugs being less and less effective until they cease to be effective at all. Any views on this Peeps? You have a gross misunderstanding of biology?" It's Wolfy, you're back! ! | |||
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"Diseases need us. If they wipe us out they destroy themselves. " Hence the natural order, it seems as though conflict and competition is the only constant. Of course, its also possible that once the germs wipe out humankind, they will evolve themselves and become the target of their own viruses. | |||
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"That's actually an interesting thought - is it possible for a germ to infect another germ?" Yes. | |||
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"That's actually an interesting thought - is it possible for a germ to infect another germ?" I don't think anything is untouchable in the natural order of things. | |||
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"That's actually an interesting thought - is it possible for a germ to infect another germ?" Yes theyre called bacteriophages, viruses that infect bacteria they are the most common "life form" on earth | |||
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"That's actually an interesting thought - is it possible for a germ to infect another germ? Yes. " vaccination is a form of that when a live "germ" is introduced to kick start the auto immune system | |||
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"That's actually an interesting thought - is it possible for a germ to infect another germ? Yes. vaccination is a form of that when a live "germ" is introduced to kick start the auto immune system" No its not at all. Thats your body recognizing the inert/dead or fragments of the pathogen so they can more quickly respond to a future real infection from the memory t cells A vaccine is not a germ infecting another germ | |||
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"This thread is literally become the most confusing thread in the world, are we talking bikes, bugs or bastards?" It's been hijacked unfortunately my old pal | |||
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"That's actually an interesting thought - is it possible for a germ to infect another germ? Yes. vaccination is a form of that when a live "germ" is introduced to kick start the auto immune system" Usually a dead "germ". | |||
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"This thread is literally become the most confusing thread in the world, are we talking bikes, bugs or bastards? It's been hijacked unfortunately my old pal " Whooaaa there, "no touchy", I am no ones pal (see no verifications and everything)", I am but an innocent bystander in all this mayhem, I am the David Attenborough of the fab world, I look but don't get involved ... okay, some of that is a fib.... | |||
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"That's actually an interesting thought - is it possible for a germ to infect another germ? Yes. vaccination is a form of that when a live "germ" is introduced to kick start the auto immune system No its not at all. Thats your body recognizing the inert/dead or fragments of the pathogen so they can more quickly respond to a future real infection from the memory t cells A vaccine is not a germ infecting another germ " No, but some are live aren't they. Not sure exactly how they attenuate them.... | |||
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"That's actually an interesting thought - is it possible for a germ to infect another germ? Yes. vaccination is a form of that when a live "germ" is introduced to kick start the auto immune system No its not at all. Thats your body recognizing the inert/dead or fragments of the pathogen so they can more quickly respond to a future real infection from the memory t cells A vaccine is not a germ infecting another germ No, but some are live aren't they. Not sure exactly how they attenuate them.... " Yes some are live but genetically modified so they are not dangerous (csnt replicate etc) some are live but similar (cow pox used as a cryde vaccine for smallox). Some are fragments amd are intwct but dead | |||
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"Everything was created to have a natural balance and order on earth. Disease is just one of nature's way of species control. To thin out a species periodically to keep the natural balance and order. There will become a time when we will have no defence against new or existing diseases and viruses etc. It's the natural balance of things it can never be stopped maybe halted for a while but never stopped. Hence the recent news of antibiotics and other drugs being less and less effective until they cease to be effective at all. Any views on this Peeps? " If everything was created , then it's not natural is it? | |||
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"Yes 24 is the lightest but the zxr is lighter still and there's one on gumtree now for £800 in Hemel Hempstead. " Why don't you post each other privately to discuss motor bikes? | |||
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"Yes 24 is the lightest but the zxr is lighter still and there's one on gumtree now for £800 in Hemel Hempstead. Why don't you post each other privately to discuss motor bikes? " Cause this is much more fun? | |||
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"Yes 24 is the lightest but the zxr is lighter still and there's one on gumtree now for £800 in Hemel Hempstead. " You're a bad man i need to be looking at mortgages next month :p | |||
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"Zxr too revy with no torque. My RGV250 ate them for breakfast!" Yeah they do rev high. I just bought a rgv250 vj21 yesterday. Pick it up tomorrow night. What did you reckon to yours and which model was it? | |||
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"Zxr too revy with no torque. My RGV250 ate them for breakfast!" I do not have the throttle control or testicular fortitude to ride a two stroke sports bike :p | |||
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"Zxr too revy with no torque. My RGV250 ate them for breakfast! I do not have the throttle control or testicular fortitude to ride a two stroke sports bike :p" You'll learn....one way or the other | |||
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"Zxr too revy with no torque. My RGV250 ate them for breakfast! I do not have the throttle control or testicular fortitude to ride a two stroke sports bike :p You'll learn....one way or the other " Ha ha. I take my rd350lc on classic trackdays and the rgv will be going too. When you get used to them they are good fun. Just got to be set up right | |||
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"Zxr too revy with no torque. My RGV250 ate them for breakfast! I do not have the throttle control or testicular fortitude to ride a two stroke sports bike :p You'll learn....one way or the other " "Now remeber when you high side you want to make sure you clear the drystone wall...or else you're gonna have a bad time" | |||
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"Zxr too revy with no torque. My RGV250 ate them for breakfast! I do not have the throttle control or testicular fortitude to ride a two stroke sports bike :p You'll learn....one way or the other Ha ha. I take my rd350lc on classic trackdays and the rgv will be going too. When you get used to them they are good fun. Just got to be set up right " Took me 3 months of tinkering to get my RGV the way i like it. Then some cunt stole it.. | |||
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"Zxr too revy with no torque. My RGV250 ate them for breakfast! I do not have the throttle control or testicular fortitude to ride a two stroke sports bike :p You'll learn....one way or the other Ha ha. I take my rd350lc on classic trackdays and the rgv will be going too. When you get used to them they are good fun. Just got to be set up right Took me 3 months of tinkering to get my RGV the way i like it. Then some cunt stole it.. " They need continual tinkering. This ones a jap import so needs the sapc box changing to derestrict it and the resistor in the speedo taking out so it will do over 112mph. It will go on dyno then to set the carbs up. So much easier on a dyno now than it was in the 80's doing plug chops | |||
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"That's actually an interesting thought - is it possible for a germ to infect another germ?" if they go bareback yes.. | |||
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"That's actually an interesting thought - is it possible for a germ to infect another germ? Yes. vaccination is a form of that when a live "germ" is introduced to kick start the auto immune system No its not at all. Thats your body recognizing the inert/dead or fragments of the pathogen so they can more quickly respond to a future real infection from the memory t cells A vaccine is not a germ infecting another germ No, but some are live aren't they. Not sure exactly how they attenuate them.... " Right, my thinking was, would it ever be possible to say, infect someone with a minor virus, say a cold, a strain of which may be detrimental to the existence of a more dangerous virus in the hosts system, basically curing them by giving them a dose of something their immune system can cope with? | |||
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"everything is just trying to survive, and this goes for diseases too. there's no balance thing going on at all. " The balance is the result of the conflict, one side has to be in balance with the other, otherwise both would end, if that's even possible of course - if we found a way to eliminate every threat to human life, ie war, disease, poverty etc, we'd soon end up so overpopulated that we wouldn't have the resources to sustain us, hence even more death. As I mentioned further up, we just have to try and get the best out of our lives, whilst we have them. | |||
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"That's actually an interesting thought - is it possible for a germ to infect another germ? Yes. vaccination is a form of that when a live "germ" is introduced to kick start the auto immune system No its not at all. Thats your body recognizing the inert/dead or fragments of the pathogen so they can more quickly respond to a future real infection from the memory t cells A vaccine is not a germ infecting another germ No, but some are live aren't they. Not sure exactly how they attenuate them.... Right, my thinking was, would it ever be possible to say, infect someone with a minor virus, say a cold, a strain of which may be detrimental to the existence of a more dangerous virus in the hosts system, basically curing them by giving them a dose of something their immune system can cope with?" Viruses wont really infect each other. Theres a possibility to use ohages to treat bacteria though but they dont tend to wipe out the bacteria completley. So its not very effective. Virus's are border line whether you van even define them as living so theres surprisingly little you can actually do to them because they have hardly any processes going on within them. Bacteria you can attack in a wide variety of ways because they're complex and have to do a lot of processes to live (stop one ans they die) but a virus uses host cells to do anything. Ont he basic level a virus is some RNA in a protein sheath. | |||
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"everything is just trying to survive, and this goes for diseases too. there's no balance thing going on at all. The balance is the result of the conflict, one side has to be in balance with the other, otherwise both would end, if that's even possible of course - if we found a way to eliminate every threat to human life, ie war, disease, poverty etc, we'd soon end up so overpopulated that we wouldn't have the resources to sustain us, hence even more death. As I mentioned further up, we just have to try and get the best out of our lives, whilst we have them." i also don't believe in predictability based on something we have never experienced either. we're only overpopulated right now because people are living longer, and these people cannot breed so are not gonna make the over population any worse, we are just waiting for them to die for the population to go down. and this is mainly in countries that have decent health care that has found ways fight off all these diseases. if people overpopulated and resources became scarce then we would die, or have to adapt (evolve) to survive that. there are already ways that starvation can be got round, just they haven't been implemented. most starvation is implemented/forced by the system that some humans have created. right now our world is chaos, and unpredictable. if diseases died, the diseases that kill us, we could be just fine. | |||
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"Virus's are border line whether you van even define them as living so theres surprisingly little you can actually do to them because they have hardly any processes going on within them. Bacteria you can attack in a wide variety of ways because they're complex and have to do a lot of processes to live (stop one ans they die) but a virus uses host cells to do anything" It is of course a massively complex subject, hence why you have multiple areas od science dedicated to the subject of germ research, but surely in the simplest terms anything which is alive can be killed, and finding the cure to anything should be about finding whatever is most dangerous to the virus' survival, with the least possible harm to the host? I'm not just talking about antibodies here, I'm thinking along the lines of some kind of territorial virus which gives the human host only the most minor of symptoms, if any at all, but will fiercely attack any other foreign infecting bodies which attempt to get into the hosts system - I suppose you could refer to this as more of a symbiote than a virus however. | |||
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"Virus's are border line whether you van even define them as living so theres surprisingly little you can actually do to them because they have hardly any processes going on within them. Bacteria you can attack in a wide variety of ways because they're complex and have to do a lot of processes to live (stop one ans they die) but a virus uses host cells to do anything It is of course a massively complex subject, hence why you have multiple areas od science dedicated to the subject of germ research, but surely in the simplest terms anything which is alive can be killed, and finding the cure to anything should be about finding whatever is most dangerous to the virus' survival, with the least possible harm to the host? I'm not just talking about antibodies here, I'm thinking along the lines of some kind of territorial virus which gives the human host only the most minor of symptoms, if any at all, but will fiercely attack any other foreign infecting bodies which attempt to get into the hosts system - I suppose you could refer to this as more of a symbiote than a virus however." But viruses aren't strictly "alive" theyre closer to prions than living organisms tbh. They inject thier dna (rna) into your cell your cell makes loads of vrii from the RNA which then bursts and releases them all. A virus cant attack another virus because well there's nothing for it to attack. They also mutate fantasticaly quick which is what makes them hard to get rid of vaccinate against the flu aay and there will be a rhousand new flus that the body doesnt recognize by the end of the week | |||
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"Virus's are border line whether you van even define them as living so theres surprisingly little you can actually do to them because they have hardly any processes going on within them. Bacteria you can attack in a wide variety of ways because they're complex and have to do a lot of processes to live (stop one ans they die) but a virus uses host cells to do anything It is of course a massively complex subject, hence why you have multiple areas od science dedicated to the subject of germ research, but surely in the simplest terms anything which is alive can be killed, and finding the cure to anything should be about finding whatever is most dangerous to the virus' survival, with the least possible harm to the host? I'm not just talking about antibodies here, I'm thinking along the lines of some kind of territorial virus which gives the human host only the most minor of symptoms, if any at all, but will fiercely attack any other foreign infecting bodies which attempt to get into the hosts system - I suppose you could refer to this as more of a symbiote than a virus however. But viruses aren't strictly "alive" theyre closer to prions than living organisms tbh. They inject thier dna (rna) into your cell your cell makes loads of vrii from the RNA which then bursts and releases them all. A virus cant attack another virus because well there's nothing for it to attack. They also mutate fantasticaly quick which is what makes them hard to get rid of vaccinate against the flu aay and there will be a rhousand new flus that the body doesnt recognize by the end of the week" Then couldn't organic matter be introduced into the virus, in order to make it become 'alive', and then subject to all the vulnerabilities of any other living organism? Idea borrowed from from Star Trek First Contact, where the Borg give Data living flesh so they can then torture him. | |||
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