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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

A debate is taking place on a forum about the merits of some product from Company X. You don’t own the product nor have you ever tried it. You have, however, owned another product from the company. It was cheap and didn’t perform as you expected. As a result, you post on the board this new product is a piece of junk and of low quality. You pop offline and think nothing else of it.

Two months later you get a notice in the mail. It is from the company with the forum. Company X has sued and the court has ordered the forum to turn over your profile information and your IP address. You have 10 days to appear in court to object or the forum will have to comply. Now you have a big problem.

Posting in a forum does not relieve from the threat of liability. For better or worse, you can still be sued for anything from character assassination to invasion of privacy to…well, anything that you can be sued for in the brick and mortar world. Laws in the physical world apply to the virtual world as well.

Ah, but what about anonymity? Well, you leave a trail when you post online. Many people assume that they will be okay as long as they don’t put their true name, address and whatever on the forum profile. Wrong. A company will sue the forum for your IP information. It is recorded when you sign up. They will then track backwards to the company controlling said IP and get a court order forcing the company to reveal who has the account.

You are probably thinking this is a lot of work to just find someone who posted something on a board. You’re right. However, many companies now take reputation management seriously. They have lawyers on staff whose sole job is to do this. Whether they bring 5 or 50 actions makes no major difference from a cost perspective. More and more companies will be taking this step as well in the future as they try to protect their reputation.

So, should you not post in forums? Of course not. You need to simply be careful. Truth is a defense to any defamation claim. If you wouldn’t say it in public, don’t say it on a forum.

no more comments on my small cock or i sue ya ass

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

kitty hun u bored??? lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

never my darling sex pot!

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By *resh freddieMan
over a year ago

Penistone

your not using smarthide.com ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"your not using smarthide.com ?"

might be who knows am copy and pasting everything i can find to help u lot out.

i am doing the google too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"your not using smarthide.com ?

might be who knows am copy and pasting everything i can find to help u lot out.

i am doing the google too"

bloody hell i was sitting here in awe of you when reading that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thats why I only ever sit in Costa packet coffe with me sticky bun to assasinate anyone........

May as well enjoy it eh..........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thats why I only ever sit in Costa packet coffe with me sticky bun to assasinate anyone........

May as well enjoy it eh.......... "

assassination by sticky bun! hmmmm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Annon assasination by sticky bun too lol...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what a way to go!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


".....sniped the long post"

Surely if what was said was true and honest, and it can stand up under questioning, then they don't have nothing to fear.

If they were talking bollocks and just said anything, as many on here seem to do, well....the said company has the right to challenge your 'statement' to defend it name or product, let us know how it goes...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

prefer the stuff about the sticky bun now....and wondering how the currents would effect ya

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"prefer the stuff about the sticky bun now....and wondering how the currents would effect ya"

oh i love currents...about 12 volts should do it.

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By *ibertinesCouple
over a year ago

Cupar


"prefer the stuff about the sticky bun now....and wondering how the currents would effect ya

oh i love currents...about 12 volts should do it."

Mine runs on 240v. Never tried batteries. Not much of a current man, although I have had sultanas eaten out my belly button.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"prefer the stuff about the sticky bun now....and wondering how the currents would effect ya"

...so you're interested in her currant affairs?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"prefer the stuff about the sticky bun now....and wondering how the currents would effect ya

oh i love currents...about 12 volts should do it."

Amateur, its the amps that are important

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

Currants? Sultanas? Anonymous assassinations? Lol, reminds me of Robin Williams in Mrs Doubtfire.... He throws a piece of fruit at Pierce Brosnan, then says... it was a drive by fruiting lol!!

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon


"prefer the stuff about the sticky bun now....and wondering how the currents would effect ya

oh i love currents...about 12 volts should do it.

Amateur, its the amps that are important "

Uh oh, are we about to get into a discussion about ohms law?

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon


"prefer the stuff about the sticky bun now....and wondering how the currents would effect ya

oh i love currents...about 12 volts should do it.

Amateur, its the amps that are important

Uh oh, are we about to get into a discussion about ohms law?

"

Shit!! Thats what you get from trying to be clever.... ohms law is for summat else to do wiv elektrikery!!

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

Just a quick word on smarthide...... if they REALLY need to find you, they will. There is nothing you can do to prevent this, apart from perhaps switching MAC cards with someone elses comp lol!!! Dont forget to switch them back after tho.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"prefer the stuff about the sticky bun now....and wondering how the currents would effect ya

oh i love currents...about 12 volts should do it.

Amateur, its the amps that are important

Uh oh, are we about to get into a discussion about ohms law?

Shit!! Thats what you get from trying to be clever.... ohms law is for summat else to do wiv elektrikery!!

"

You mean V=IR, or the one where I make Maybelline go "Ohmygod"

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By *iggles and BeardyCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

very few ip are static anymore.. as for geting sued, if you can prove that said product you had, realy was of crap quality, then in this lovely world you simply counter sue

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

can everyone stop talking on my thread now, i did not write (copy paste) it for u to all fucking talk about it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A debate is taking place on a forum about the merits of some product from Company X. You don’t own the product nor have you ever tried it. You have, however, owned another product from the company. It was cheap and didn’t perform as you expected. As a result, you post on the board this new product is a piece of junk and of low quality. You pop offline and think nothing else of it.

Two months later you get a notice in the mail. It is from the company with the forum. Company X has sued and the court has ordered the forum to turn over your profile information and your IP address. You have 10 days to appear in court to object or the forum will have to comply. Now you have a big problem.

Posting in a forum does not relieve from the threat of liability. For better or worse, you can still be sued for anything from character assassination to invasion of privacy to…well, anything that you can be sued for in the brick and mortar world. Laws in the physical world apply to the virtual world as well.

Ah, but what about anonymity? Well, you leave a trail when you post online. Many people assume that they will be okay as long as they don’t put their true name, address and whatever on the forum profile. Wrong. A company will sue the forum for your IP information. It is recorded when you sign up. They will then track backwards to the company controlling said IP and get a court order forcing the company to reveal who has the account.

You are probably thinking this is a lot of work to just find someone who posted something on a board. You’re right. However, many companies now take reputation management seriously. They have lawyers on staff whose sole job is to do this. Whether they bring 5 or 50 actions makes no major difference from a cost perspective. More and more companies will be taking this step as well in the future as they try to protect their reputation.

So, should you not post in forums? Of course not. You need to simply be careful. Truth is a defense to any defamation claim. If you wouldn’t say it in public, don’t say it on a forum.

no more comments on my small cock or i sue ya ass"

There are thousands of product reviews and opinions expressed in forums every day. Do you know of any cases where any contributor to a forum has been sued ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"A debate is taking place on a forum about the merits of some product from Company X. You don’t own the product nor have you ever tried it. You have, however, owned another product from the company. It was cheap and didn’t perform as you expected. As a result, you post on the board this new product is a piece of junk and of low quality. You pop offline and think nothing else of it.

Two months later you get a notice in the mail. It is from the company with the forum. Company X has sued and the court has ordered the forum to turn over your profile information and your IP address. You have 10 days to appear in court to object or the forum will have to comply. Now you have a big problem.

Posting in a forum does not relieve from the threat of liability. For better or worse, you can still be sued for anything from character assassination to invasion of privacy to…well, anything that you can be sued for in the brick and mortar world. Laws in the physical world apply to the virtual world as well.

Ah, but what about anonymity? Well, you leave a trail when you post online. Many people assume that they will be okay as long as they don’t put their true name, address and whatever on the forum profile. Wrong. A company will sue the forum for your IP information. It is recorded when you sign up. They will then track backwards to the company controlling said IP and get a court order forcing the company to reveal who has the account.

You are probably thinking this is a lot of work to just find someone who posted something on a board. You’re right. However, many companies now take reputation management seriously. They have lawyers on staff whose sole job is to do this. Whether they bring 5 or 50 actions makes no major difference from a cost perspective. More and more companies will be taking this step as well in the future as they try to protect their reputation.

So, should you not post in forums? Of course not. You need to simply be careful. Truth is a defense to any defamation claim. If you wouldn’t say it in public, don’t say it on a forum.

no more comments on my small cock or i sue ya ass

There are thousands of product reviews and opinions expressed in forums every day. Do you know of any cases where any contributor to a forum has been sued ? "

you should have asked do i care

thats a well easy reply to u

no i fucking well dont

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

but because i am in a good mood just for u darling..............

Whirlpool forums founder Simon Wright, who is being sued by accounting software maker 2Clix Australia for publishing comments the company alleges are “false and malicious”, says the legal action affects all online discussion and even film reviews.

“A lot hangs in the balance here,” Mr Wright told NEWS.com.au.

“This goes beyond Whirlpool, or indeed communities in general.

“It affects the viability of all internet discussion, from blogs to product reviews on Amazon.

“What’s to stop movie distributors from threatening anyone who publishes a negative review of the latest film?”

Mr Wright said that the support from users has been “incredibly heartwarming” and demonstrates how much they appreciate participating in forums that facilitate “fair and reasonable” criticism.

He said that Whirlpool uses a range of measures to identify potentially problematic comments and there is a set of rules in place to regulate posts.

“Whirlpool’s forum operates on the basis that users post their comments without prior approval.

“We treat all complaints about posts seriously.”

Members of the Whirlpool forum have also been donating money to help pay the legal costs for Mr Wright, who set up the website to help internet users discuss problems with broadband services.

Legal case

2Clix Australia is suing Mr Wright for damages after two forum discussions about its products on the Whirlpool site.

According to a statement on the site, purportedly from 2Clix, the action was based on comments criticising its software and postings encouraging other Whirlpool members to avoid purchasing their products.

2Clix spokesman David Morgan said that he would not confirm that the “Statement of Claim” on the website was an exact copy of the court documents.

“There is a legal process underway (and) on our legal advice, we will be making no comment,” Mr Morgan said.

According to the document, 2Clix “quantifies its loss in income between January 2007 to July 2007 at approximately $150,000 per month”.

The document also said 2Clix would be seeking $150,000 in damages for the alleged “injurious falsehood”, the permanent removal of two forum threads discussing its software and legal costs to be paid by Mr Wright.

Whirlpool said it would be fighting the allegations in court.

“Whirlpool believes the action has no merit and will defend the matter vigorously, despite being a community website with little resources,” the company said.

The forum threads in question still appear online.

Users show their support

Since news of the court action was posted on the website last night, more than 1200 comments have been posted in support of Mr Wright – and many users have actually donated money to help with legal costs.

“(I’ve) donated $1254 via PayPal… $1 for each post I’ve made on (Whirlpool),” one user said.

“WP is the best forum of its type in the world and it would be a very sad day if that were put in jeopardy… I urge you to donate as much as you can.”

Another user who looked at every cash pledge made on the site calculated that at 10.30am (AEST) today, supporters had donated at least $3097.94 for legal costs.

“Amazing when you consider that these were only the amounts posted, not including those who didn’t post the amount, those who had posts deleted, and those yet to read and donate,” the user said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well, if you don't care, why start a thread with a hypothetical case, and then when asked if you have any evidence this has ever happened, you then say you don't care ?

What bizarre behaviour.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

who knows, i dont care if people get sued or not i will start topics on what i like about what i like i would like it a lot better if people spoke about big mac's rather then my posts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"who knows, i dont care if people get sued or not i will start topics on what i like about what i like i would like it a lot better if people spoke about big mac's rather then my posts"

Indeed, of course you may start topics on whatever you so choose. And likewise I will comment as and when I see fit.

I merely, and quite politely, asked if you had some evidence for what you had said. You have subsequently come up with a 2007 case from a foreign country, but had you looked a bit further into it, you would have discovered that nobody contributing to a forum was being sued, and the case against the forum owner was abandoned when the company that had started the litigation went bankrupt. They went bankrupt because their product was shite, and not only were the contributors to the forum pointing out the crap nature of the product, but by suing, the product owners thereby guaranteed wide publicity to the adverse comments.

It is highly unlikely a company will sue somebody for posting adverse comments - it's a self-destructive process.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

like i say my sweet lips i dont care

sue me!!!!!!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"like i say my sweet lips i dont care

sue me!!!!!!!!!!!

"

oh I will, just as soon as me and my Al Quaeda buddies have finished fermenting this lethal brew of viruses, made in our clay cooking pots and with a bunsen burner. We plan to overthrow you decadent westerners by giving you all the sniffles.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

then i will sue u

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"like i say my sweet lips i dont care

sue me!!!!!!!!!!!

oh I will, just as soon as me and my ****Al Quaeda**** buddies have finished fermenting this ****lethal**** brew of ****viruses****, made in our clay cooking pots and with a bunsen ****burn****er. We plan to ****overthrow**** you ****decadent**** ****west****erners by giving you all the sniffles."

7 highlighted words. Only 5 are needed to get Jodrell Bank listening post on alert. Well done.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"7 highlighted words. Only 5 are needed to get Jodrell Bank listening post on alert. Well done. "

and there was me thinking Jodrell Bank was a radio telescope, when all along it's been an internet traffic interceptor, cunningly built in 1957 before the internet existed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"7 highlighted words. Only 5 are needed to get Jodrell Bank listening post on alert. Well done.

and there was me thinking Jodrell Bank was a radio telescope, when all along it's been an internet traffic interceptor, cunningly built in 1957 before the internet existed."

You never heard of upgrades & expansion then? Thort you wuz smart.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"then i will sue u"

I look forward to it. You can serve the court papers on me at :

Fifth tent on the left

Secret Training Camp

Overseas

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Besides, you don't really think a hammer costs £3,000,0000 and a bit of 2x2 costs £600,000 - what do you think the govt spend your money on?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

someone gonna have to explain this shit to me lmao

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"someone gonna have to explain this shit to me lmao"

Nasty brown stuff usually secreted after a meal but sometimes induced by jelly belly.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"someone gonna have to explain this shit to me lmao

Nasty brown stuff usually secreted after a meal but sometimes induced by jelly belly. "

your more gross then me ffs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You never heard of upgrades & expansion then? Thort you wuz smart. "

of course, but why bother, when you can just read a forum. You don't need a radio telescope to read a forum, in fact, I'm using a pc here to do that, as are you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You never heard of upgrades & expansion then? Thort you wuz smart.

of course, but why bother, when you can just read a forum. You don't need a radio telescope to read a forum, in fact, I'm using a pc here to do that, as are you."

Yes but you don't have a nice big shiny compoooter that reads zillions of text messages, emails, internet messages, phone calls, fax messages and anything else that we use to communicate... do you have one of those?

Didn't think so, that's why the govt spend £m on paper clips and £m on tissue paper... ya know, so they can listen and intercept practically everything that's said electronically. All automatically. It's well smart.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but you don't have a nice big shiny compoooter that reads zillions of text messages, emails, internet messages, phone calls, fax messages and anything else that we use to communicate... do you have one of those?"

and your point is what ?

That I'm not the Government ?

I can read material on the internet, and no radio telescope needed. Millions of people are reading stuff on the web all the time, and all of them without a radio telescope. I'm just saying that if the Government wants to read our stuff, they are welcome to, they probably are anyway, but they won't be using a radio telescope. That's all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but you don't have a nice big shiny compoooter that reads zillions of text messages, emails, internet messages, phone calls, fax messages and anything else that we use to communicate... do you have one of those?

and your point is what ?

That I'm not the Government ?

I can read material on the internet, and no radio telescope needed. Millions of people are reading stuff on the web all the time, and all of them without a radio telescope. I'm just saying that if the Government wants to read our stuff, they are welcome to, they probably are anyway, but they won't be using a radio telescope. That's all."

Why do you keep going back to a radio telescope? That's not the only thing they have at Jodrell Bank. It's common knowledge that the U.S. Gov use it to spy on their own people - which seems a bit strange coz they've adhered to their own laws regarding snooping on U.S. citizens from within U.S. borders. And as it's here in England, part of the deal was that our gov can use it too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why do you keep going back to a radio telescope? That's not the only thing they have at Jodrell Bank. It's common knowledge that the U.S. Gov use it to spy on their own people - which seems a bit strange coz they've adhered to their own laws regarding snooping on U.S. citizens from within U.S. borders. And as it's here in England, part of the deal was that our gov can use it too."

ah yes, common knowledge, for example, the Earth is flat, lightning strikes its own reflection, etc, etc. There is nothing at Joddrell that will perform those tasks, it's completely the wrong technology. And I believe the US are not prevented by their own legislation from snooping on their own citizens, but I'm happy for you to prove me wrong by pointing me to that legislation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why do you keep going back to a radio telescope? That's not the only thing they have at Jodrell Bank. It's common knowledge that the U.S. Gov use it to spy on their own people - which seems a bit strange coz they've adhered to their own laws regarding snooping on U.S. citizens from within U.S. borders. And as it's here in England, part of the deal was that our gov can use it too.

ah yes, common knowledge, for example, the Earth is flat, lightning strikes its own reflection, etc, etc. There is nothing at Joddrell that will perform those tasks, it's completely the wrong technology. And I believe the US are not prevented by their own legislation from snooping on their own citizens, but I'm happy for you to prove me wrong by pointing me to that legislation."

Ok ok, I'm the conspiracy theorist and you're the trusting left wing pink ribbon wearing Pride supporter. Let's leave it at that eh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok ok, I'm the conspiracy theorist and you're the trusting left wing pink ribbon wearing Pride supporter. Let's leave it at that eh. "

no, no, I'm one Them. It is We who are watching YOU. We are MIG, the Men in Grey. You are right to believe in conspiracies. I'm just saying you are wrong concerning our methods.

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