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Howard Marks. Another one gone.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Not the greatest role model but I must admit his books were very candid and showed other sides of him. RIP fella!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Not the greatest role model but I must admit his books were very candid and showed other sides of him. RIP fella! "

Another what gone ? Another Drug Smuggler ? Ahhh bless xxx

Are we lauding any fucker that passes now ?

I don't mind. I just have a long list of far more worthy people we could sniff about.

My dad for one.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Not the greatest role model but I must admit his books were very candid and showed other sides of him. RIP fella!

Another what gone ? Another Drug Smuggler ? Ahhh bless xxx

Are we lauding any fucker that passes now ?

I don't mind. I just have a long list of far more worthy people we could sniff about.

My dad for one. "

Sorry. Didn't mean to piss on your chips. I did say he wasn't the best role model.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not the greatest role model but I must admit his books were very candid and showed other sides of him. RIP fella! "

What does RIP atually mean

You wish him to stay in his grave ?

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire

Have you noticed that all these deaths in 2016 are actually humans ?

There's something very strange happening

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am saddened by this news.

He had a remarkable life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not the greatest role model but I must admit his books were very candid and showed other sides of him. RIP fella!

Another what gone ? Another Drug Smuggler ? Ahhh bless xxx

Are we lauding any fucker that passes now ?

I don't mind. I just have a long list of far more worthy people we could sniff about.

My dad for one. "

"Sniff about" ahahahahaha

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular


"Have you noticed that all these deaths in 2016 are actually humans ?

There's something very strange happening "

I thought a horse died last Friday

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have you noticed that all these deaths in 2016 are actually humans ?

There's something very strange happening

I thought a horse died last Friday "

It is possible.

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By *empsey and hotpieceMan
over a year ago

North west


"Not the greatest role model but I must admit his books were very candid and showed other sides of him. RIP fella! "

I thought his hits "right here waiting" and "hazard" were very good, it's a shame he didn't do more chart topping songs.

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

He lived life on his terms. Apart from when he was locked up

So rest in peace fella you deserve it

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I lost a Turkish delight the other week after my Mum had been round to visit and was left unaccompanied near the pantry

RIP my Turkish Delight

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare


"I lost a Turkish delight the other week after my Mum had been round to visit and was left unaccompanied near the pantry

RIP my Turkish Delight"

Deserves it's own thread

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley


"Not the greatest role model but I must admit his books were very candid and showed other sides of him. RIP fella!

What does RIP atually mean

You wish him to stay in his grave ?"

'I didn't attend the funeral but I did send a nice letter saying I approved.'

Mark Twain

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS
over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford

oh thats sad to hear ..he was a bit of a hero of mine ..another one gone

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular


"I lost a Turkish delight the other week after my Mum had been round to visit and was left unaccompanied near the pantry

RIP my Turkish Delight

Deserves it's own thread"

It's the sequel.

Midnight Express- the sugar rush

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire


"I lost a Turkish delight the other week after my Mum had been round to visit and was left unaccompanied near the pantry

RIP my Turkish Delight"

Our thoughts are with you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jesus, you people. If you dont know who he was or care then move on. Personally he was someone I respected and got to meet briefly. RIP (rest in peace whoever asked what that meant)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Jesus, you people. If you dont know who he was or care then move on. Personally he was someone I respected and got to meet briefly. RIP (rest in peace whoever asked what that meant) "

No, tell me what does saying RIP actually mean ?

What are you wishing dead people ?

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By *raceytvcdTV/TS
over a year ago

mansfield


"I am saddened by this news.

He had a remarkable life "

and that makes him a remarkable man

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have you noticed that all these deaths in 2016 are actually humans ?

There's something very strange happening

I thought a horse died last Friday "

4 horses died at the aintree festival last week.

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By *edMan
over a year ago

cambridgeshire


"Not the greatest role model but I must admit his books were very candid and showed other sides of him. RIP fella! "

Who??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When a drug dealer died in Tottenham a few years back a lot f people rioted.

Are we to see the same now ?

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By *ushandkittyCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

5,

Kings Palace (IRE)

09 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Pulled Up - Lame - Destroyed-

Gullinbursti (IRE)

08 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Fell - Broke Neck - Dead-

Minella Recption (IRE)

08 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Fell - Dead-

Marasonnien (FR)

07 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Pulled Up - Fatally Inju_ed-

Clonbanan Lad (IRE)

07 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Pulled Up - Fatally Inju_ed-

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"5,

Kings Palace (IRE)

09 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Pulled Up - Lame - Destroyed-

Gullinbursti (IRE)

08 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Fell - Broke Neck - Dead-

Minella Recption (IRE)

08 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Fell - Dead-

Marasonnien (FR)

07 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Pulled Up - Fatally Inju_ed-

Clonbanan Lad (IRE)

07 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Pulled Up - Fatally Inju_ed-"

My mistake.

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare


"5,

Kings Palace (IRE)

09 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Pulled Up - Lame - Destroyed-

Gullinbursti (IRE)

08 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Fell - Broke Neck - Dead-

Minella Recption (IRE)

08 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Fell - Dead-

Marasonnien (FR)

07 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Pulled Up - Fatally Inju_ed-

Clonbanan Lad (IRE)

07 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Pulled Up - Fatally Inju_ed-"

A condemnation of the "sport"

What's it got to do with Howard marks tho?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"5,

Kings Palace (IRE)

09 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Pulled Up - Lame - Destroyed-

Gullinbursti (IRE)

08 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Fell - Broke Neck - Dead-

Minella Recption (IRE)

08 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Fell - Dead-

Marasonnien (FR)

07 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Pulled Up - Fatally Inju_ed-

Clonbanan Lad (IRE)

07 Apr, 2016

Aintree

Pulled Up - Fatally Inju_ed-

A condemnation of the "sport"

What's it got to do with Howard marks tho?"

Death of dumb animals ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Howard Marks was best known for his notoriety and mystery as much as actual drug deals etc. I personally think it's ridiculous to compare his death to another drug dealer or involve animals / others on this thread. Ultimately he caught the attention of the public and he allegedly did all sorts of work for the governments of several countries which was positive, so he'll always be divisive but as he's well known, comes with the territory. Truth is we'll never know, but he lived a full life for sure. RIP and if people are hung up about drug dealers or horses, what are they doing about it?

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

I think he just spun yarns about helping government at his trial to muddy the waters. And it worked in his uk case

He broke laws that he saw as unjust. He was non violent. He's good in my book

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Howard Marks was best known for his notoriety and mystery as much as actual drug deals etc. I personally think it's ridiculous to compare his death to another drug dealer or involve animals / others on this thread. Ultimately he caught the attention of the public and he allegedly did all sorts of work for the governments of several countries which was positive, so he'll always be divisive but as he's well known, comes with the territory. Truth is we'll never know, but he lived a full life for sure. RIP and if people are hung up about drug dealers or horses, what are they doing about it? "

Not buying drugs or riding horses to their deaths.

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By *edMan
over a year ago

cambridgeshire


"Howard Marks was best known for his notoriety and mystery as much as actual drug deals etc. I personally think it's ridiculous to compare his death to another drug dealer or involve animals / others on this thread. Ultimately he caught the attention of the public and he allegedly did all sorts of work for the governments of several countries which was positive, so he'll always be divisive but as he's well known, comes with the territory. Truth is we'll never know, but he lived a full life for sure. RIP and if people are hung up about drug dealers or horses, what are they doing about it?

Not buying drugs or riding horses to their deaths. "

Well put.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

RIP Mr Nice

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Whatever way you look at it, he was a drug dealer and he should not be idolised for that or for writing books that glamorise drug peddling in any way.

Drug dealers are scum.

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare


"Whatever way you look at it, he was a drug dealer and he should not be idolised for that or for writing books that glamorise drug peddling in any way.

Drug dealers are scum. "

He as a non violent dope dealer. Hardly Escobar.

At least he got to see the end of the war on drugs starting in his lifetime

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Whatever way you look at it, he was a drug dealer and he should not be idolised for that or for writing books that glamorise drug peddling in any way.

Drug dealers are scum. "

In your opinion

I thought he was very convivial the two times I met him.

I've met a lot of drug dealers in various professional and unprofessional capacities and, as they go, I thought he had a lot of interesting things to say about the state of legalisation, the damage the drugs laws inadvertently cause and their failure in general to stem the problems that drug misuse can bring.

imo

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

So because he has a smiley face it's perfectly OK. For him to be a drug dealer?

I'm glad I have a different moral code.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"So because he has a smiley face it's perfectly OK. For him to be a drug dealer?

I'm glad I have a different moral code. "

That's not what I said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Whatever way you look at it, he was a drug dealer and he should not be idolised for that or for writing books that glamorise drug peddling in any way.

Drug dealers are scum.

In your opinion

I thought he was very convivial the two times I met him.

I've met a lot of drug dealers in various professional and unprofessional capacities and, as they go, I thought he had a lot of interesting things to say about the state of legalisation, the damage the drugs laws inadvertently cause and their failure in general to stem the problems that drug misuse can bring.

imo"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Whatever way you look at it, he was a drug dealer and he should not be idolised for that or for writing books that glamorise drug peddling in any way.

Drug dealers are scum.

In your opinion

I thought he was very convivial the two times I met him.

I've met a lot of drug dealers in various professional and unprofessional capacities and, as they go, I thought he had a lot of interesting things to say about the state of legalisation, the damage the drugs laws inadvertently cause and their failure in general to stem the problems that drug misuse can bring.

imo"

.

The facts are heroin is used in medicine and hospitals, it's a product and products are what the world does well.

We make heroin for pharmaceutical use extremely cheaply. Like £5 a kilo, but used outside of medicine and pharmacy it's £50,000 a kilo.

What were actually doing is putting £49,995 pounds in the hands of bad people, who then use this money to do more bad things! And all because we moralise over it's use!.

The cost of giving away heroin to addicts would be less than the cost of methadone and technically the first one is less harmful than the latter.

But fear not tens of thousands of people can continue to suffer for your moral conscience to be clean, that we didn't let them do it!.

Hoorah, let's slap ourselves on the back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Whatever way you look at it, he was a drug dealer and he should not be idolised for that or for writing books that glamorise drug peddling in any way.

Drug dealers are scum.

In your opinion

I thought he was very convivial the two times I met him.

I've met a lot of drug dealers in various professional and unprofessional capacities and, as they go, I thought he had a lot of interesting things to say about the state of legalisation, the damage the drugs laws inadvertently cause and their failure in general to stem the problems that drug misuse can bring.

imo.

The facts are heroin is used in medicine and hospitals, it's a product and products are what the world does well.

We make heroin for pharmaceutical use extremely cheaply. Like £5 a kilo, but used outside of medicine and pharmacy it's £50,000 a kilo.

What were actually doing is putting £49,995 pounds in the hands of bad people, who then use this money to do more bad things! And all because we moralise over it's use!.

The cost of giving away heroin to addicts would be less than the cost of methadone and technically the first one is less harmful than the latter.

But fear not tens of thousands of people can continue to suffer for your moral conscience to be clean, that we didn't let them do it!.

Hoorah, let's slap ourselves on the back "

What's heroine got to do with Howard Marks

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Oh lol - if we turn this into a debate about legalisation the thread will be closed.

Just sayin'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Whatever way you look at it, he was a drug dealer and he should not be idolised for that or for writing books that glamorise drug peddling in any way.

Drug dealers are scum.

In your opinion

I thought he was very convivial the two times I met him.

I've met a lot of drug dealers in various professional and unprofessional capacities and, as they go, I thought he had a lot of interesting things to say about the state of legalisation, the damage the drugs laws inadvertently cause and their failure in general to stem the problems that drug misuse can bring.

imo.

The facts are heroin is used in medicine and hospitals, it's a product and products are what the world does well.

We make heroin for pharmaceutical use extremely cheaply. Like £5 a kilo, but used outside of medicine and pharmacy it's £50,000 a kilo.

What were actually doing is putting £49,995 pounds in the hands of bad people, who then use this money to do more bad things! And all because we moralise over it's use!.

The cost of giving away heroin to addicts would be less than the cost of methadone and technically the first one is less harmful than the latter.

But fear not tens of thousands of people can continue to suffer for your moral conscience to be clean, that we didn't let them do it!.

Hoorah, let's slap ourselves on the back "

Quite the interesting argument. Governments struggle so much to actually _educe and combat it, criminals thrive at times. And for all the people that moan about drugs etc, there's not enough to either inspire change or action their words, drives me mad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was more aimed at the modern idea of how we tackle drug problems!.

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

like it or not ..it was a colourful life ...he made a career writing books and doing talks about his life ..people flocked to hear it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh lol - if we turn this into a debate about legalisation the thread will be closed.

Just sayin'

"

.

If making things illegal worked we'd be in utopia right now!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh lol - if we turn this into a debate about legalisation the thread will be closed.

Just sayin'

.

If making things illegal worked we'd be in utopia right now!"

I agree with you there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh lol - if we turn this into a debate about legalisation the thread will be closed.

Just sayin'

.

If making things illegal worked we'd be in utopia right now!"

.

Plus what I'm actually saying is the government already legally dish out drugs free of charge.

I'm just saying it might be worth "expanding" that programme

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Oh lol - if we turn this into a debate about legalisation the thread will be closed.

Just sayin'

.

If making things illegal worked we'd be in utopia right now!

I agree with you there."

I think we're all off the same page

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"like it or not ..it was a colourful life ...he made a career writing books and doing talks about his life ..people flocked to hear it "

I'd say some people turned up to see him would be a better description than flocked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"like it or not ..it was a colourful life ...he made a career writing books and doing talks about his life ..people flocked to hear it

I'd say some people turned up to see him would be a better description than flocked. "

Last 3 times he was at Holmfirth,they were all sell outs

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

that's a shame. he was a decent fella and will be sadly missed by many especially those who were closest to him.

Er coffadwriaeth parchus am Den

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By *elson61Man
over a year ago

WELWYN GARDEN CITY


"I am saddened by this news.

He had a remarkable life and that makes him a remarkable man "

A drug smuggler a remarkable man??

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"I am saddened by this news.

He had a remarkable life and that makes him a remarkable man

A drug smuggler a remarkable man??"

Yes.

He engaged in a morally questionable business, got sent to maximum security prison in America and then made a career out of telling stories and lecturing about it.

He was a very clever man.

He certainly didn't kill anyone, nor did his actions lead to anyone's death that I'm aware of.

People still celebrate Stalin, or Mao write books about them - they did a lot worse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am saddened by this news.

He had a remarkable life and that makes him a remarkable man

A drug smuggler a remarkable man??"

Multi million pound corporate business men who sell life saving drugs at massive profits are given awards

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sad, my grandfathers good friend, wonder if his funeral will be here.

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff


"Sad, my grandfathers good friend, wonder if his funeral will be here. "

I'd imagine it would be, though he lived up north.

I loved him when younger. Feel a fair bit more conflicted about his past and some of his exploits now, but whatever the morality of it, he was an interesting guy.

I saw him once and someone asked "when were you most nervous". His answer was "probably when I was smuggling (insert ludicrous amount here) kilos of dope into Thailand".

I'm not too sure about the figure, but it was a crazy amount. 32,000kg or something.

I do like the fact he taught Welsh to death row prisoners in the USA

Gorffus mewn Hedd (RIP).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am saddened by this news.

He had a remarkable life and that makes him a remarkable man

A drug smuggler a remarkable man??

Multi million pound corporate business men who sell life saving drugs at massive profits are given awards "

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago


"Sad, my grandfathers good friend, wonder if his funeral will be here. "

there was already a wake for him in the farmers in cefn tonight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sad, my grandfathers good friend, wonder if his funeral will be here.

there was already a wake for him in the farmers in cefn tonight"

Was it, haven't seen my Bampi since Saturday, wonder if he went. I'm porthcawl but my Bamps is a kenfig hill boy.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago


"Sad, my grandfathers good friend, wonder if his funeral will be here.

there was already a wake for him in the farmers in cefn tonight

Was it, haven't seen my Bampi since Saturday, wonder if he went. I'm porthcawl but my Bamps is a kenfig hill boy. "

it wasn't official, just some of the local boys paying their respects to another local boy. i heard there's another unofficial gathering in pontycymmer later this week by some his schoolmates and other friends. i'm hoping Gruff will let us know when the main event is.

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By *all and ChainWoman
over a year ago

Truro

Knew him quite well back in the day before he got busted.

Hard to connect the stories in the press with the reality on the ground, lots of people had a big laugh at the mr big stuff. saynomore

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By *elson61Man
over a year ago

WELWYN GARDEN CITY


"I am saddened by this news.

He had a remarkable life and that makes him a remarkable man

A drug smuggler a remarkable man??

Yes.

He engaged in a morally questionable business, got sent to maximum security prison in America and then made a career out of telling stories and lecturing about it.

He was a very clever man.

He certainly didn't kill anyone, nor did his actions lead to anyone's death that I'm aware of.

People still celebrate Stalin, or Mao write books about them - they did a lot worse.

"

How about swapping "morally questionable" with "totally illegal" or "criminal activities". That puts his activities into their proper context. He smuggled drugs for years, there is nothing remarkable about that.

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By *ack2blackCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

He sure knew how to party

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Aye - a fine mind

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