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"difficult one... " What would you do if your little one looked like she was putting on the pounds ?( when she gets older of course ) | |||
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"also the parents should have sought medical advice for a possible underlying thyroid condition" cant be blamed for everything though | |||
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"also the parents should have sought medical advice for a possible underlying thyroid condition" Good point! | |||
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"Then no, it isn't as difficult as you thought. In my opinion that is what the parents of this girl should have done before it got out of hand." +1 Never ceases to amaze me the number of overweight kids you see. And in this day and age when food & nutrition advice is wall to wall available, there's no excuse. And please, could we not have anyone coming up with some kind of 'glandular' excuse for a teenager being 40 stone. These are people who need help, and if necessary, intervention. And yes, intervention is a difficult judgement call for the authorities/state to take when they have to balance the freedoms of the individual. But let's say 20 stone for a teenager as a guideline... | |||
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"Apparently as a baby she wouldn't drink regular milk so the mother gave her condensed milk! and tinned potatoes instead of baby food! I remember a time if you had a dog you needed a license,anyone can have a kid and no one really seems to receive any 'direction'" Clearly the parents had no common sense then.. i personally HATE tap water.. but to my daughter she knows no different. If she was started on it from the beggining then she'd think its the norm. | |||
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"Don't think it is difficult at all!! The parents should be prosecuted for child abuse! That child is their responsibility. " very interesting point they would be prosecuted if they starved her so why not for over feeding the parents need to take responsiblity for certain but that said my mother tried her hardest to make sure i kept my weight under control as a child, often popping me on a diet, yet as an adult i still became morbidly obese which i sometimes wonder if it was a way of rebeling once i was out of her control food wise, so there are obviously right ways and wrong ways of controling your childs weight but what these are i am not certain | |||
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"Parents in Dundee had their children taken into care because their family were obese, they were repeatedly warned to change their diet. " I remember hearing about that | |||
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"We had no money when the kids were young and we used to eat all the cheap crap that supermarkets were churning out to us, but the kids always had decent food. Proper dinners and plenty of veg! As I said before, they were our responsibility and we chose to have them. Obese children are normally the result of parents who take the easy option! That of course is just my opinion!" I agree and we didn't get many "treats" as there wasn't enough money for that plus, they didn't sell as many treats as they do now anyway. To be fair though, we were a large family, all had the same dinners and a couple of us put on weight more than the others, so I don't think it is JUST what goes in your mouth. | |||
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"We had no money when the kids were young and we used to eat all the cheap crap that supermarkets were churning out to us, but the kids always had decent food. Proper dinners and plenty of veg! As I said before, they were our responsibility and we chose to have them. Obese children are normally the result of parents who take the easy option! That of course is just my opinion! I agree and we didn't get many "treats" as there wasn't enough money for that plus, they didn't sell as many treats as they do now anyway. To be fair though, we were a large family, all had the same dinners and a couple of us put on weight more than the others, so I don't think it is JUST what goes in your mouth." very true we eat very similar as a family yet neither hubby or kids are overweight both sons have definatly got husbands genetics when it comes to build in fact oldest eats more junk than i could ever dream of consuming and yet is still ultra slim (he is 21 and makes his own food choices these days and its certainly not food choices he was taught to make as a child) | |||
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"perhaps im cruel,, but im teaching my daughter that carrot battons are 'sweeties' haha" like it we used to call our boys fruit bats as kids as they would as for plums or grapes when shopping never sweets | |||
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"That is a huge amount of weight for anyone never mind a young girl.....who's fault if any? Did the parents fail her? You don't get to that size with eating salads, so I am guessing the wrong foods were given. I know how easy it is to put on weight, and to get to a large size, but surely the parents noticed her getting bigger and could have put a stop to it?" How do you stop a teenager eating? if she wants the food she will get it somehow I have a daughter who is over weight, not 40st lol but shes a size 16 at 17 years old, i have suggested a few times she should watch what she eats but she just buys what she wants when shes out As a parent you can only control what your child eats in the house, unless you make them a prisoner and dont give them any money how can you possabily stop they buying what they want to eat while they are out? And if you did lock them in the house and didnt give them any personal money youd be accused of being a bad parent for doing that! over all you just cant win | |||
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"difficult one... What would you do if your little one looked like she was putting on the pounds ?( when she gets older of course )" see the problem is most over weight kids come from over weight families, its a knock on effect, you eat junk so you get fat, you feed your family what you eat so your kids get fat there for most parents with over weight kids wouldnt bat an eye lid cause they big too | |||
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"How do you stop a teenager eating? if she wants the food she will get it somehow I have a daughter who is over weight, not 40st lol but shes a size 16 at 17 years old, i have suggested a few times she should watch what she eats but she just buys what she wants when shes out As a parent you can only control what your child eats in the house, unless you make them a prisoner and dont give them any money how can you possabily stop they buying what they want to eat while they are out? And if you did lock them in the house and didnt give them any personal money youd be accused of being a bad parent for doing that! over all you just cant win" Think secondary school was especially tough for me, had friends who were stick insects and at lunch they'd scoff down chips etc and if i stuck to a packed lunch they'd think my parents were broke.. so id feel obliged to have school dinners from the canteen and end up eating the same as them. Damm shame i was the only one to put on weight - paying for it now though | |||
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"That is a huge amount of weight for anyone never mind a young girl.....who's fault if any? Did the parents fail her? You don't get to that size with eating salads, so I am guessing the wrong foods were given. I know how easy it is to put on weight, and to get to a large size, but surely the parents noticed her getting bigger and could have put a stop to it? How do you stop a teenager eating? if she wants the food she will get it somehow I have a daughter who is over weight, not 40st lol but shes a size 16 at 17 years old, i have suggested a few times she should watch what she eats but she just buys what she wants when shes out As a parent you can only control what your child eats in the house, unless you make them a prisoner and dont give them any money how can you possabily stop they buying what they want to eat while they are out? And if you did lock them in the house and didnt give them any personal money youd be accused of being a bad parent for doing that! over all you just cant win" This kid was big from a very young age, so I am guessing she wasn't going out with lots of money to buy food. No, you can't control what goes on outside of the house.....but you should be able to control what they eat inside it. Our children were very different, one could eat for England and not put any weight on and the other would only need to look at a biscuit to put on a pound. when I saw she was putting on too much weight I just cut back any treats she had....she didn't know I was doing it for her, just that they were not in the house for her to eat. | |||
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"That is a huge amount of weight for anyone never mind a young girl.....who's fault if any? Did the parents fail her? You don't get to that size with eating salads, so I am guessing the wrong foods were given. I know how easy it is to put on weight, and to get to a large size, but surely the parents noticed her getting bigger and could have put a stop to it?" knew someone that was 2 stones befopre their 13th birthday...parents tried everything, including big padlocks on the cupboards and fridge etc etc...she just starte to eat herself wen she couldn't get food....sadly she had praderwilly syndrome and die before she reached adulthood....was nobody's fault....so i hesitate to assign blame here | |||
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"That is a huge amount of weight for anyone never mind a young girl.....who's fault if any? Did the parents fail her? You don't get to that size with eating salads, so I am guessing the wrong foods were given. I know how easy it is to put on weight, and to get to a large size, but surely the parents noticed her getting bigger and could have put a stop to it? knew someone that was 2 stones befopre their 13th birthday...parents tried everything, including big padlocks on the cupboards and fridge etc etc...she just starte to eat herself wen she couldn't get food....sadly she had praderwilly syndrome and die before she reached adulthood....was nobody's fault....so i hesitate to assign blame here" I think that has to be an extreme case there Stu x | |||
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"That is a huge amount of weight for anyone never mind a young girl.....who's fault if any? Did the parents fail her? You don't get to that size with eating salads, so I am guessing the wrong foods were given. I know how easy it is to put on weight, and to get to a large size, but surely the parents noticed her getting bigger and could have put a stop to it? knew someone that was 2 stones befopre their 13th birthday...parents tried everything, including big padlocks on the cupboards and fridge etc etc...she just starte to eat herself wen she couldn't get food....sadly she had praderwilly syndrome and die before she reached adulthood....was nobody's fault....so i hesitate to assign blame here I think that has to be an extreme case there Stu x" 2 stones???? it shoulda read 20..lol . . yeah is an xtreme case, but i don't really know why this girl is so heavy, so I would be wary of blaming ronald mcdonald or her parents just now s there could be other reasons | |||
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"I guessed lol So it seems this young girl lost 15 stones in 2009 , so she is capable of losing weight." yeah,sadly she had to be taken away to a boot camp in the US to do so. The mountain air of Georgia or a 2 bed semi in Aberdare. only one of them seems conducive to her losing weight. as soon as she got back she reverted to comfort eating again. I feel sorry for the whole family | |||
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"I dont know much abut it ...but as I understand it ...the girl n question has been her mothers carer since the age of 11....a very young age fer that kind of life ...some will cope admirably ..others may struggle to cope .....codependent behaviour is an obvious pitfall in this scenario ....mabye its a cry fer help ... Speaking of which ...where were the social workers or health visitors..didn`t the teachers spot fuck all ?....this should of been spotted ...and the family dysfunction helped with advice and counselling ....the girl is at serious risk of severe health problems. In an ordinary situation ..adults are supposed to be the guardians of their childrens welfare ...an obvious failing here ....people have sympathy for say post natal depression ....but not for another mental health issue ..and want the mother charged with what? being ill ?.. I`m not making excuses ..trying to take an holistic view ....to easy to see everything in shades of black n white .. The blame game isn`t appropriatte here ...it isn`t a matter of crass irresponsibility ...unlike some of who I see, who feed their kids junk and don`t promote exercise etc .. Hope the family get help ..in a practical way.." yes i see this on tv and how she has been looking after her mum from 10/11 .. no child should ever have to look after there own mum at that age ... her mum should have been looking after her ....... this young girl is crying out for help | |||
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"I feel sorry for her and i hope she has some help from family or a counsellor. It is not as easy as some people who dont know about this disorder think . People turn to food for comfort when feeling upset or sad thay forget you are obese and unhealthy its like a drug . I think she need to be taken out of family home as been a caring for her mum from 10 ... she has had no normal life as a child looking after her mum must be a worrie for this girl , and what do she turn to for conford its food. I really hope there are people out there going to help as i dont think after the lifes she had can herself. " tis very true hunny an anorexic would recieve medical help and counciling but does someone that is so overweight? i have no idea lets just hope this being made so public might mean she recieves some help watching people clambering for the paper and judging yesterday made me feel very sad for her, surely it can only make her mental state suffer knowing the whole country is judging her maybe the sun should step upto the plate and help her as they made so much money from popping her all over their front page | |||
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"How and why did this girls story get into the papers today?" I never see the pepers ...but its a mute point I guess.... | |||
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"How and why did this girls story get into the papers today? I never see the pepers ...but its a mute point I guess...." Not necessarily. Who sold the story to whom? And why? And why now? And for how much? And for what purpose? Why was the story published? To raise awareness of someone in difficulty, to highlight a social problem, or just to print pictures of a freak show to sell newspapers and get people talking in just the 'why oh why' way they are here? | |||
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"Maybe her over eating was her way of coping with the huge job she had to do everyday Not many adult would cope with being someones carer 24/7 never mind a child Coping with a mother being ill and being the one she relied on must have been very hard for her noones perfect and we all cope in different way" Surely if she was a child caring for an adult 24/7, she'd be run off her feet? | |||
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"Maybe her over eating was her way of coping with the huge job she had to do everyday Not many adult would cope with being someones carer 24/7 never mind a child Coping with a mother being ill and being the one she relied on must have been very hard for her noones perfect and we all cope in different way Surely if she was a child caring for an adult 24/7, she'd be run off her feet?" Sensi.. I do agree to a point, but thinking about it, perhaps she was trying to make herself too fat to be able to care for her mother! Perhaps in some perverse way she was eating up a disability? Whatever it was, she needs help now... If it's not too late. | |||
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"Maybe her over eating was her way of coping with the huge job she had to do everyday Not many adult would cope with being someones carer 24/7 never mind a child Coping with a mother being ill and being the one she relied on must have been very hard for her noones perfect and we all cope in different way Surely if she was a child caring for an adult 24/7, she'd be run off her feet?" you could run a marathon every day and still put weight on if your eating more than your burning off | |||
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"How and why did this girls story get into the papers today? I never see the pepers ...but its a mute point I guess.... Not necessarily. Who sold the story to whom? And why? And why now? And for how much? And for what purpose? Why was the story published? To raise awareness of someone in difficulty, to highlight a social problem, or just to print pictures of a freak show to sell newspapers and get people talking in just the 'why oh why' way they are here?" I can`t give a considered opinion..I haven`t seen the article ...only what I`ve heard word of mouth ... From experience ...newspapers ..rarely have anybodies concern at heart ... I should of said I would deem the mother culpable in the health of her child ... | |||
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"I guessed lol So it seems this young girl lost 15 stones in 2009 , so she is capable of losing weight. yeah,sadly she had to be taken away to a boot camp in the US to do so. The mountain air of Georgia or a 2 bed semi in Aberdare. only one of them seems conducive to her losing weight. as soon as she got back she reverted to comfort eating again. I feel sorry for the whole family" yeah i read that yesterday but it said when she arrived home her mother hadnt had time to make anything healthy so went out and got fish and chips...like giving alcahol to an alcaholic really!!! saying that i did also once read about a young obese lad who really did have a healthy diet...test after test showed he did indeed have an underlying illness...sometimes as we all know it is getting a doctor to listen | |||
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" Her mother should be ashamed." Know what you mean. Those shoes with that bag were NEVER going to work. | |||
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" all had the same dinners and a couple of us put on weight more than the others, so I don't think it is JUST what goes in your mouth." I agree, all my children had the same diet, lots of fruit and veg and healthy eating, my daughter is about a size 18 whereas the other two are very slim. She developed apace as a teenager and it's stuck. She doesn't drive, cycles to the nursery and her job, often with her 4 yr old on the back of her cycle. They walk lots and swim, she is extremely healthy as is her diet but she just cannot shift any weight. | |||
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"also the parents should have sought medical advice for a possible underlying thyroid condition" Recent studies suggest thyroid problems seem to be a consequence of, rather than a cause of, obesity in kids. | |||
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"Its caused by 'big bones' . . . . . . . . . covered in meat n gravy " when was the last time you saw a fat skeleton? | |||
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" all had the same dinners and a couple of us put on weight more than the others, so I don't think it is JUST what goes in your mouth. I agree, all my children had the same diet, lots of fruit and veg and healthy eating, my daughter is about a size 18 whereas the other two are very slim. She developed apace as a teenager and it's stuck. She doesn't drive, cycles to the nursery and her job, often with her 4 yr old on the back of her cycle. They walk lots and swim, she is extremely healthy as is her diet but she just cannot shift any weight." I don't know exactly how big a size 18 is but I doubt it's possible to extremely healthy and a size 18 unless the girl is about 7 foot tall. If she's getting plenty of exercise (and she seems to be) but can't shift weight then the obvious conclusion is that she's eating more than her body needs. Sticking to the healthy diet but smaller portions might be the answer. | |||
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" Her mother should be ashamed. Know what you mean. Those shoes with that bag were NEVER going to work." I know but I tried to advice her then she tried to eat me she mistook me for a twiglet | |||
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"Same here i have 2 children both had same upbringing where as my youngest is very fussy eater my eldest is a very healthy eater always has been. She is 13 and weighs 13 stone 5ft8 and she has size 9 feet have recently done carnigie clubs which I highly recommend. She has lost a stone and half in 6 months and I could'nt be prouder. And she has just spent a night in hospital for hormone tests and glucose and just waiting on results." spending a night i hospital for a blood test,, bit extreme isnt it? | |||
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