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"Just watching walking dead, I was wondering if people would start killing each other in the event of a crisis, or is it's just in the movie producers minds? I think in the UK come the zombie apocalypse people would work together against the zombies, not make war on survivors. So your thoughts, is it because they are Americans, or do movie producers just want to portray people as evil to the core?" I couldn't possibly comment, but only because on my experience of the several Americans I've met my comments might just get me arrested lol. | |||
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"Not me, I would team up withanyone, remove all the zombies. then get back to shagging or ignoring" What if they didn't want to team up? What if they wanted what you had and seemed dangerous? If anyone stood in my way or seemed a threat to my family I'd get my lucille out lol | |||
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"Just watching walking dead, I was wondering if people would start killing each other in the event of a crisis, or is it's just in the movie producers minds? I think in the UK come the zombie apocalypse people would work together against the zombies, not make war on survivors. So your thoughts, is it because they are Americans, or do movie producers just want to portray people as evil to the core?" I haven't seen the Walking Dead but I'm guessing they portray what they thinks makes the better, more interesting story. I seem to be the only person who doesn't think about zombie attacks though. Practically everyone else seems to have a plan in case of zombie attack. | |||
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"Just watching walking dead, I was wondering if people would start killing each other in the event of a crisis, or is it's just in the movie producers minds? I think in the UK come the zombie apocalypse people would work together against the zombies, not make war on survivors. So your thoughts, is it because they are Americans, or do movie producers just want to portray people as evil to the core? I haven't seen the Walking Dead but I'm guessing they portray what they thinks makes the better, more interesting story. I seem to be the only person who doesn't think about zombie attacks though. Practically everyone else seems to have a plan in case of zombie attack." Yep, I'm going down The Winchester | |||
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"Just watching walking dead, I was wondering if people would start killing each other in the event of a crisis, or is it's just in the movie producers minds? I think in the UK come the zombie apocalypse people would work together against the zombies, not make war on survivors. So your thoughts, is it because they are Americans, or do movie producers just want to portray people as evil to the core? I haven't seen the Walking Dead but I'm guessing they portray what they thinks makes the better, more interesting story. I seem to be the only person who doesn't think about zombie attacks though. Practically everyone else seems to have a plan in case of zombie attack. Yep, I'm going down The Winchester " Oh, if that counts as a plan, maybe I do have one | |||
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"Just watching walking dead, I was wondering if people would start killing each other in the event of a crisis, or is it's just in the movie producers minds? I think in the UK come the zombie apocalypse people would work together against the zombies, not make war on survivors. So your thoughts, is it because they are Americans, or do movie producers just want to portray people as evil to the core? I haven't seen the Walking Dead but I'm guessing they portray what they thinks makes the better, more interesting story. I seem to be the only person who doesn't think about zombie attacks though. Practically everyone else seems to have a plan in case of zombie attack." if you've ever watched Zombieland I'd be worried if I was you | |||
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"Thing is I have worked with lots of people I wanted to kill, but restrained myself got the job done and moved on... end of the world scenario would just make more space to move away from annoying people." Sounds familiar and a very good point. | |||
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"Thing is I have worked with lots of people I wanted to kill, but restrained myself got the job done and moved on... end of the world scenario would just make more space to move away from annoying people." Or just not restrain yourself | |||
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"Well if it's the apocalypse and I come across a 6month supply of food and water at the same time as someone else and I have to choose to share and have a 3month supply or behead my fellow man...,........let's just say I'd have a 6month supply of food and water by the end of the night. When that ran out the zombies wouldn't be the only only ones eating people people to survive " What if the person you killed to avoid sharing the food and water had essential skills you needed to survive for the 3 months? You might not know it when you kill them but without them it's possible you wouldn't get to use the 6 month's worth of food and water. Say, they're a doctor and you get injured or ill. Or they're a mechanic and after you've killed them you find you need them to repair a vehicle so you can escape? Without that vehicle you could be over-run by zombies and eaten. | |||
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"Just watching walking dead, I was wondering if people would start killing each other in the event of a crisis, or is it's just in the movie producers minds? I think in the UK come the zombie apocalypse people would work together against the zombies, not make war on survivors. So your thoughts, is it because they are Americans, or do movie producers just want to portray people as evil to the core?" Pssst. It's a story. | |||
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" So your thoughts, is it because they are Americans, or do movie producers just want to portray people as evil to the core?" To this point, and accepting that it's a huge generalisation, that's what lots of Amricans are like. (I don't mean zombies, I mean the tendency to think killing is better than talking) The documentary Bowling for Columbine, about the Columbine massacre, was fascinating. It pointed to the notion that Americans are relentlessly fed on news of fear and victimisation to the extent that they have a disproportionate fear of pretty much everyone and everything. And as a result, think the solution is to shoot first. | |||
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"Just watching walking dead, I was wondering if people would start killing each other in the event of a crisis, or is it's just in the movie producers minds? I think in the UK come the zombie apocalypse people would work together against the zombies, not make war on survivors. So your thoughts, is it because they are Americans, or do movie producers just want to portray people as evil to the core? I haven't seen the Walking Dead but I'm guessing they portray what they thinks makes the better, more interesting story. I seem to be the only person who doesn't think about zombie attacks though. Practically everyone else seems to have a plan in case of zombie attack. Yep, I'm going down The Winchester " And wait for it all to blow over. Good plan. Mines a Guinness and glass of red for jools. | |||
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" So your thoughts, is it because they are Americans, or do movie producers just want to portray people as evil to the core? To this point, and accepting that it's a huge generalisation, that's what lots of Amricans are like. (I don't mean zombies, I mean the tendency to think killing is better than talking) The documentary Bowling for Columbine, about the Columbine massacre, was fascinating. It pointed to the notion that Americans are relentlessly fed on news of fear and victimisation to the extent that they have a disproportionate fear of pretty much everyone and everything. And as a result, think the solution is to shoot first. " I wonder sometimes whether some (note *some* before anyone takes offence) Americans believing they need guns in order to be able to defend themselves makes them too sensitised to the idea there is something serious they must defend themselves against, making them a bit more likely to over-react and go for the shoot first approach. They believe they need a gun to protect themselves, therefore there must be something they need to defend against, so they're looking for it. Of course, the shoot first approach does then tend to feed into the idea that they need guns to be able to defend themselves and so it continues. It's almost a chicken and egg situation. Do people believe they are in danger and therefore think they need a gun? Or do they believe they need a gun and therefore think there must be something they need to protect themselves against? Mind you, most of my understanding of the gun situation in the US is from television and the media, so it isn't a well-informed view. | |||
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"Just watching walking dead, I was wondering if people would start killing each other in the event of a crisis, or is it's just in the movie producers minds? I think in the UK come the zombie apocalypse people would work together against the zombies, not make war on survivors. So your thoughts, is it because they are Americans, or do movie producers just want to portray people as evil to the core?" "He" with the most guns wins I am sure "the walking dead" have it fairly spot on and people who have the skill & knowledge of re-loading will do just fine a gun aint good without ammo | |||
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"Interesting to see a couple of people on this thread would choose violence and murder, over cooperation. which of course would make others defensive and scared. So that would in theory make the movie producers speculation correct. Take away control and regulated supplies and we turn on each other rather than work for a future. " Survival of the fittest, Morgan thinks like you yet he killed to save Carol. The way you think you'll be one of the first to go lol | |||
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"Well if it's the apocalypse and I come across a 6month supply of food and water at the same time as someone else and I have to choose to share and have a 3month supply or behead my fellow man...,........let's just say I'd have a 6month supply of food and water by the end of the night. When that ran out the zombies wouldn't be the only only ones eating people people to survive What if the person you killed to avoid sharing the food and water had essential skills you needed to survive for the 3 months? You might not know it when you kill them but without them it's possible you wouldn't get to use the 6 month's worth of food and water. Say, they're a doctor and you get injured or ill. Or they're a mechanic and after you've killed them you find you need them to repair a vehicle so you can escape? Without that vehicle you could be over-run by zombies and eaten." . Don't ask complicated questions to those who wish to live an uncomplicated life.... They get brain freeze . | |||
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"Just watching walking dead, I was wondering if people would start killing each other in the event of a crisis, or is it's just in the movie producers minds? I think in the UK come the zombie apocalypse people would work together against the zombies, not make war on survivors. So your thoughts, is it because they are Americans, or do movie producers just want to portray people as evil to the core? "He" with the most guns wins I am sure "the walking dead" have it fairly spot on and people who have the skill & knowledge of re-loading will do just fine a gun aint good without ammo " Better to have a gun and not need it than the other way round. | |||
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"Survival of the fittest, Morgan thinks like you yet he killed to save Carol. The way you think you'll be one of the first to go lol" LOL grew up on a farm, know how to create meat from animals, Know how to hunt with gun, bow, or snare. Pretty good at soil cultivation for crop growing. Plus I know how to handle a JCB to dig a nice zombie proof moat. Think I may get by without needing to kill people But I will start in the Winchester until the first wave has passed. | |||
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"Survival of the fittest, Morgan thinks like you yet he killed to save Carol. The way you think you'll be one of the first to go lol LOL grew up on a farm, know how to create meat from animals, Know how to hunt with gun, bow, or snare. Pretty good at soil cultivation for crop growing. Plus I know how to handle a JCB to dig a nice zombie proof moat. Think I may get by without needing to kill people But I will start in the Winchester until the first wave has passed." And what happens when people try and kill you Morgan? | |||
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"The book (not the film) World War Z delves really deep into this, it's written from the point of view of survivor stories after the fact. The Yanks don't fare well, they try and blow them to bits but their concussion dependant bombs don't work on dead people, only head shots so they soon get over run. Israel on the other had build walls, they hold out for a while but get over run too. The Catholic church relocates to Ireland, an island, but the zombies that get thrown overboard from passing ships wash up on the shores. The safest tactic seems to be head as far north as you can, the cold slows the zombies down and completely stops them in the really cold weather. In the book the world goes into chaos for the first 3-4 years and then things stabilize until about 10 years after the breakout the UN has got it's shit together and have clean up crews travelling the world as zombies keep showing up for years. " Sounds a lot different to the film lmao | |||
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"The book (not the film) World War Z delves really deep into this, it's written from the point of view of survivor stories after the fact. The Yanks don't fare well, they try and blow them to bits but their concussion dependant bombs don't work on dead people, only head shots so they soon get over run. Israel on the other had build walls, they hold out for a while but get over run too. The Catholic church relocates to Ireland, an island, but the zombies that get thrown overboard from passing ships wash up on the shores. The safest tactic seems to be head as far north as you can, the cold slows the zombies down and completely stops them in the really cold weather. In the book the world goes into chaos for the first 3-4 years and then things stabilize until about 10 years after the breakout the UN has got it's shit together and have clean up crews travelling the world as zombies keep showing up for years. Sounds a lot different to the film lmao " The book is actually very good but it's written in a way that it's almost impossible to make a movie out of it. The level of detail is unreal. If you replace the zombies with anything, nuclear war, virus outbreak, running out of oil etc etc society breaks down in the same ways! The film "The Road" is another take on it | |||
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"Well Morgan defends himself pretty well with a stick. I hope that people are more sensible than the movies portray them, my skills will make me valuable. plus they will need to get over my zombie moat first " A moat would'nt work though would it, if the zombies are already dead, then they can't drown. They would just walk underwater to the other side of your moat, lol. | |||
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"Are we as bad as the movies? Probaly no different than ya'll, " Texans *may* be... | |||
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" So your thoughts, is it because they are Americans, or do movie producers just want to portray people as evil to the core? To this point, and accepting that it's a huge generalisation, that's what lots of Amricans are like. (I don't mean zombies, I mean the tendency to think killing is better than talking) The documentary Bowling for Columbine, about the Columbine massacre, was fascinating. It pointed to the notion that Americans are relentlessly fed on news of fear and victimisation to the extent that they have a disproportionate fear of pretty much everyone and everything. And as a result, think the solution is to shoot first. " First of all, Bowling for Columbine is complete garbage... Second, the US is a very, very large place with a very diverse population. I was born and have grown up primarily in a rural community in Kansas, I probably have a very different view of things than someone born & raised in Chicago or NYC... I think different areas of the country would handle a zombie invasion very differently...and alot of the reaction would be community based, I think small towns would bond together for the most part but would probably be wary of stragglers or other communities. There is a large proportion of Americans who have access to a gun at all times, i.e. concealed carry, yet never take the "shoot first" mentality. On the whole, Americans are not that different than any others...we love our families and we do what it takes to protect them. | |||
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"A moat would'nt work though would it, if the zombies are already dead, then they can't drown. They would just walk underwater to the other side of your moat, lol. " Of course it would, they can't climb the fences or out of pits in the walking dead, so won't be able to climb out of the moat, daily wash through from a good pond via a sluice gate and zombies get washed away, cos I suspect they may be a bit smelly. | |||
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"The book (not the film) World War Z delves really deep into this, it's written from the point of view of survivor stories after the fact. The Yanks don't fare well, they try and blow them to bits but their concussion dependant bombs don't work on dead people, only head shots so they soon get over run. Israel on the other had build walls, they hold out for a while but get over run too. The Catholic church relocates to Ireland, an island, but the zombies that get thrown overboard from passing ships wash up on the shores. The safest tactic seems to be head as far north as you can, the cold slows the zombies down and completely stops them in the really cold weather. In the book the world goes into chaos for the first 3-4 years and then things stabilize until about 10 years after the breakout the UN has got it's shit together and have clean up crews travelling the world as zombies keep showing up for years. " Nicely illustrates that we are only as 'civilised' as the structures and frameworks that keep everyone pretty much under control. Without law enforcement people will do anything and everything to survive...just imagine we could no longer import food into this country.It wouldn't take long for people to go crazy and start attacking and looting. That's why I always think its pretty rich of people to say..."oh look how barbaric THOSE people in that country are"...completely disregarding what circumstances have contributed to that. It can happen anywhere. I say we are only civilised as long as things remain the way we expect them to be. Garbage not collected for two weeks? All hell breaks loose | |||
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"Garbage not collected for two weeks? All hell breaks loose " You may be right, 48 hours without facetube and all communication channels break down. leading to mass violence and canibalism. Who needs zombies | |||
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"So your thoughts, is it because they are Americans, or do movie producers just want to portray people as evil to the core?" I thought the bad guys always had a British accent? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUDntpV_HdQ | |||
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"Well if it's the apocalypse and I come across a 6month supply of food and water at the same time as someone else and I have to choose to share and have a 3month supply or behead my fellow man...,........let's just say I'd have a 6month supply of food and water by the end of the night. When that ran out the zombies wouldn't be the only only ones eating people people to survive What if the person you killed to avoid sharing the food and water had essential skills you needed to survive for the 3 months? You might not know it when you kill them but without them it's possible you wouldn't get to use the 6 month's worth of food and water. Say, they're a doctor and you get injured or ill. Or they're a mechanic and after you've killed them you find you need them to repair a vehicle so you can escape? Without that vehicle you could be over-run by zombies and eaten." i honestly think I'd manage fine, I actually would enjoy a zombie apocalypse, no law, no rules, and finally get to use my finely sharpened machete that can slice through two yellow pages like they were made of butter | |||
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"Op can I join forces with you? I like the sound of your moat! I'm pretty sure.I'd be useless at defending you or even myself but I have other strengths! " Of course, as long as you don't go round telling people you were attracted by the ize of my moat | |||
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"OP, why are you asking this question? They (redneck yanks) shoot each other all the time without there being any crisis and refuse any gun control even when their children are being mown down in their schools with monotonous regularity." I should state, I have man flu at the moment which has obviously removed all logic, reason, and sanity. But I was a bit disturbed by the violence to other survivors, then got to thinking of other films where society breaks down almost all result in tribes that are into brutal murder as a way forward, strength over thought, destruction over rebuilding etc. Then obviously being feverish with the man flu, I wondered if the driving force was that people really are totally destructive around the writing teams (i. e. hollywood), or it was just the film makers who peddle destruction and murder as the only future. | |||
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", I actually would enjoy a zombie apocalypse, no law, no rules, and finally get to use my finely sharpened machete that can slice through two yellow pages like they were made of butter " That machete wont catch you a deer, nor will it be any use to gralloch a deer. You need a gun or you need to be real dam good with a bow | |||
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"You're quite right, we Americans are a stupid bunch who believe aliens visit nightly, zombies are lurking just around the corner, and there are duels on every main street regularly. Sometimes we even let our children participate. It's the wild west over here! We behave exactly as the Hollywood movie makers portray us!" Do you do realise that your gun crime rates in the US are the same as those in failed states? Do you also realise that the life expectancy of a convicted murderer sentenced to death is longer that a black male growing up in your inner cities? Maybe what I first thought was your sarcastic reply is actually an acknowledgement that your country has some very serious problems. | |||
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"You're quite right, we Americans are a stupid bunch who believe aliens visit nightly, zombies are lurking just around the corner, and there are duels on every main street regularly. Sometimes we even let our children participate. It's the wild west over here! We behave exactly as the Hollywood movie makers portray us! Do you do realise that your gun crime rates in the US are the same as those in failed states? Do you also realise that the life expectancy of a convicted murderer sentenced to death is longer that a black male growing up in your inner cities? Maybe what I first thought was your sarcastic reply is actually an acknowledgement that your country has some very serious problems. " You realize every country has very serious problems, right? | |||
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"You're quite right, we Americans are a stupid bunch who believe aliens visit nightly, zombies are lurking just around the corner, and there are duels on every main street regularly. Sometimes we even let our children participate. It's the wild west over here! We behave exactly as the Hollywood movie makers portray us! Do you do realise that your gun crime rates in the US are the same as those in failed states? Do you also realise that the life expectancy of a convicted murderer sentenced to death is longer that a black male growing up in your inner cities? Maybe what I first thought was your sarcastic reply is actually an acknowledgement that your country has some very serious problems. " haha, a British guy telling an American what their country is like lmao. Also, who is committing all those gun crimes? Who is the biggest killer of black males? | |||
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"You realize every country has very serious problems, right? " I realise that the US corporate state having screwed their own country through the avarice of a few are now exporting their problems all over the world! | |||
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"You realize every country has very serious problems, right? I realise that the US corporate state having screwed their own country through the avarice of a few are now exporting their problems all over the world!" Right. Thank you for your input. | |||
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" haha, a British guy telling an American what their country is like lmao. Also, who is committing all those gun crimes? Who is the biggest killer of black males? " You live in the richest country in the world where 25% of your population cant afford healthcare insurance and the richest in your country live in gated communities with armed guards controlling entry and patrolling 24 hrs a day! Your schools need metal detectors and armed guards on the doors and your NRA say the answer to school massacres is to arm teachers! And your answer is to laugh at me and say who is killing those black male children? It does not mater who is doing the killing and who is doing the dying what matters is that your society is bankrupt and so in love with guns and violence that your answer to your problems is lets have more of the same. The real shame is that many in my country and my government look at your country and say "We want some of that!" | |||
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" haha, a British guy telling an American what their country is like lmao. Also, who is committing all those gun crimes? Who is the biggest killer of black males? You live in the richest country in the world where 25% of your population cant afford healthcare insurance and the richest in your country live in gated communities with armed guards controlling entry and patrolling 24 hrs a day! Your schools need metal detectors and armed guards on the doors and your NRA say the answer to school massacres is to arm teachers! And your answer is to laugh at me and say who is killing those black male children? It does not mater who is doing the killing and who is doing the dying what matters is that your society is bankrupt and so in love with guns and violence that your answer to your problems is lets have more of the same. The real shame is that many in my country and my government look at your country and say "We want some of that!"" I'm not American lmao. And the rich are rich good for them. You brought up the point about black males. Your refusal to answer my question says a lot You don't live in America, how can you tell them what their society and their attitude to guns are? You're just another Peirs Morgan lmao | |||
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"You realize every country has very serious problems, right? I realise that the US corporate state having screwed their own country through the avarice of a few are now exporting their problems all over the world!" I'm guessing it's safe to say that we don't need to expect you visiting anytime soon What a shame because with our pea-sized brains we do come up with some excellent forms of entertainment! | |||
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" haha, a British guy telling an American what their country is like lmao. Also, who is committing all those gun crimes? Who is the biggest killer of black males? You live in the richest country in the world where 25% of your population cant afford healthcare insurance and the richest in your country live in gated communities with armed guards controlling entry and patrolling 24 hrs a day! Your schools need metal detectors and armed guards on the doors and your NRA say the answer to school massacres is to arm teachers! And your answer is to laugh at me and say who is killing those black male children? It does not mater who is doing the killing and who is doing the dying what matters is that your society is bankrupt and so in love with guns and violence that your answer to your problems is lets have more of the same. The real shame is that many in my country and my government look at your country and say "We want some of that!"" The uninsured rate is not 25% and even if it were, the reason is not always expense...I know when I was young I did not have health insurance because I didn't believe I needed it, freedom to choose how I spend my $ is an awesome thing. Gated communities do exist but they are not always guarded and not all "rich" people live in a gated community... There are more schools that do NOT have metal detectors and armed guards than those with. And it's quite ironic that the schools that do have those things tend to be located in cities and states with the strictest gun control laws. Your apparent dislike of Americans and our culture is fascinating and I'd like to know where you get your information. | |||
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" The uninsured rate is not 25% and even if it were, the reason is not always expense...I know when I was young I did not have health insurance because I didn't believe I needed it, freedom to choose how I spend my $ is an awesome thing. Gated communities do exist but they are not always guarded and not all "rich" people live in a gated community... There are more schools that do NOT have metal detectors and armed guards than those with. And it's quite ironic that the schools that do have those things tend to be located in cities and states with the strictest gun control laws. Your apparent dislike of Americans and our culture is fascinating and I'd like to know where you get your information. " I have worked in the US (only for short periods admittedly), my brother was based in Chicago for 10 years and I used to visit regularly. His partner and her family are from Washington State. As soon as she fell pregnant and it was discovered that the baby had downs syndrome they moved to the UK because they felt that Lily (my nice) would have a better life here when they were too old to look after her. It is not that I don't like Americans, it is I don't like how your political and corporate elite treat their fellow human beings or how there are black and white no go areas or your fixation with firearms. | |||
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"10 years ago I was in the States and was frog marched out at gunpoint over $6. I had Canadian cash on me and dude at Border insisted on American cash to get across the border. Didn't say a word until he checked me in then asked for his 6 bucks. When he refused my Canadian dollars he then became aggressive as he wasted time writing me up for entry Me being Glaswegian and having a very dry sense of humour asked if he considered his aggression to be funny got a surprise when he drew his revolver and threatened me. For me watching a queue of people duck under tables was hilarious and I'm staring down this gun. He backed down when he realised I was winding him up but in all seriousness I could have been killed because of a trigger happy pen pusher Have been back since many times and no not all Americans are dumbfuck arselickers " Americans are very polite and call all public servants sir for a reason... Bet your now very polite to the public servants too when visiting the USA. | |||
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", I actually would enjoy a zombie apocalypse, no law, no rules, and finally get to use my finely sharpened machete that can slice through two yellow pages like they were made of butter That machete wont catch you a deer, nor will it be any use to gralloch a deer. You need a gun or you need to be real dam good with a bow" it'll do fine if long pig is on the menu | |||
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" but please don't hijack this thread for ignorant prejudice it was a dumb question from a dumb tv show, no need to get nasty." I'm glad you said that Mr A, I know nothing about this show, so I've been wondering about this thread for a few days, thinking it can't have been serious. I was given Antony Beevor's 'Paris After the Liberation' for Christmas, and while we may laugh at them only coming in at the end of the 1st, and being late for the second, the real work was done afterwards, where they truely excelled themselves. That we have enjoyed so many years of peace in Europe since is down largely to them, and is one of the reasons they want us as a steady hand within the EU. That said, whenever there's an axe murderer on the loose, they always inexplicably run upstairs and make loud wimpering noises in the wardrobe until they are caught, but I guess every nation has its strengths and weaknesses... Mr ddc | |||
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", I actually would enjoy a zombie apocalypse, no law, no rules, and finally get to use my finely sharpened machete that can slice through two yellow pages like they were made of butter That machete wont catch you a deer, nor will it be any use to gralloch a deer. You need a gun or you need to be real dam good with a bowit'll do fine if long pig is on the menu " there are some good words in a "stranglers" song human flesh is porky meat | |||
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