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"So what is it. Give us a clue!  "an ancient city in southeastern Turkey, Klaus Schmidt has made one of the most startling archaeological discoveries of our time: massive carved stones about 11,000 years old, crafted and arranged by prehistoric people who had not yet developed metal tools or even pottery. The megaliths predate Stonehenge by some 6,000 years. The place is called Gobekli Tepe, and Schmidt, a German archaeologist who has been working here more than a decade, is convinced it's the site of the world's oldest temple. | |||
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"Massive carved stones?. You mean pillars like Stonehenge? Forming a circle, is it on top of a hill, with a connection to the sun?" Pre dates Stone Henge by at least 6000 years. That's some history altering shit ! | |||
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"Massive carved stones?. You mean pillars like Stonehenge? Forming a circle, is it on top of a hill, with a connection to the sun? Pre dates Stone Henge by at least 6000 years. That's some history altering shit !" Archaeology is always making us reassess prehistory and often history. I haven't read anything about this site, what makes them classify it as a religious place? | |||
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"Massive carved stones?. You mean pillars like Stonehenge? Forming a circle, is it on top of a hill, with a connection to the sun? Pre dates Stone Henge by at least 6000 years. That's some history altering shit ! Archaeology is always making us reassess prehistory and often history. I haven't read anything about this site, what makes them classify it as a religious place?" Because it wasn't built as a place to live or farm etc. No other need for a place to be built like that unless it was for sacred/religious purposes. So the theorists say? | |||
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"Massive carved stones?. You mean pillars like Stonehenge? Forming a circle, is it on top of a hill, with a connection to the sun? Pre dates Stone Henge by at least 6000 years. That's some history altering shit !" . Why?. It sounds like the earliest form of Stonehenge?... How does it differ. The 11,000 year mark is not a coincidence the Neolithic (new stone age) period marked the end of Holocene period allowing humans to go forth and multiply | |||
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"Why does every prehistoric site that we cant think of a use for, have to be religious" I like that..... Stonehenge a big windbreAk .... Just the nylon bits weathered and gone!! | |||
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"Why does every prehistoric site that we cant think of a use for, have to be religious" . The idea was they built sites of worship (they were mostly pagans) out of stone because they wanted it to last into the many generations to come, obviously building lasting objects out of hard stone was a very very labour intensive act and therefore was only ever used as a continuous way of reliable worship from generation to generation. . . If you think back to that period all knowledge was passed down from person to person because of a lack of ability to retain learnt experience... Ie they aint got good books | |||
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"Massive carved stones?. You mean pillars like Stonehenge? Forming a circle, is it on top of a hill, with a connection to the sun? Pre dates Stone Henge by at least 6000 years. That's some history altering shit ! Archaeology is always making us reassess prehistory and often history. I haven't read anything about this site, what makes them classify it as a religious place? Because it wasn't built as a place to live or farm etc. No other need for a place to be built like that unless it was for sacred/religious purposes. So the theorists say?" mmm, ergo, this site is a religious one | |||
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"Massive carved stones?. You mean pillars like Stonehenge? Forming a circle, is it on top of a hill, with a connection to the sun? Pre dates Stone Henge by at least 6000 years. That's some history altering shit ! Archaeology is always making us reassess prehistory and often history. I haven't read anything about this site, what makes them classify it as a religious place? Because it wasn't built as a place to live or farm etc. No other need for a place to be built like that unless it was for sacred/religious purposes. So the theorists say?" That's the problem with archaeology it involves a lot of theory and that's partly the reason we constantly reassess prehistory, we always interpret in the context of the times we live in because it's impossible to interpret in its original context and as more things come to light we realise our original interpretation was incorrect. This sounds like an interesting site, I'll read around it when I get the opportunity. | |||
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"If you think back to that period all knowledge was passed down from person to person because of a lack of ability to retain learnt experience... Ie they aint got good books" They had pictograms | |||
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"If you think back to that period all knowledge was passed down from person to person because of a lack of ability to retain learnt experience... Ie they aint got good books They had pictograms " . Hey?. No I was talking about how they passed on learnt experience to the next generation without a reliable source!. Big stone pillars in a circle all connected to worshipping the death and rebirth of the sun! | |||
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"If you think back to that period all knowledge was passed down from person to person because of a lack of ability to retain learnt experience... Ie they aint got good books They had pictograms . Hey?. No I was talking about how they passed on learnt experience to the next generation without a reliable source!. Big stone pillars in a circle all connected to worshipping the death and rebirth of the sun!" yep - with pictograms  | |||
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"If you think back to that period all knowledge was passed down from person to person because of a lack of ability to retain learnt experience... Ie they aint got good books They had pictograms . Hey?. No I was talking about how they passed on learnt experience to the next generation without a reliable source!. Big stone pillars in a circle all connected to worshipping the death and rebirth of the sun! yep - with pictograms ". Ahh yes get you now!. Yeah I guess it could be described as a big stone pictogram for educational worship of the sun | |||
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"Yeah I guess it could be described as a big stone pictogram for educational worship of the sun" Most likely it was just a posh place for orgies. They have pictograms in/on it - they look amazing - especially considering they were supposed to be crawling about scrabbling for berries, not being all arty & literate. | |||
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"I've fucking been there!!!!! Finally i'm relevant! I participated in a dig there a few years ago as part of my degree at Manchester. We made bread and beer using ancient methods because it one of the earliest sites which demonstrated that sort of activity. It's hardly a new development though, excavation started in the nineties. " You lucky thing! What do you think it was? | |||
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"I've fucking been there!!!!! Finally i'm relevant! I participated in a dig there a few years ago as part of my degree at Manchester. We made bread and beer using ancient methods because it one of the earliest sites which demonstrated that sort of activity. It's hardly a new development though, excavation started in the nineties. You lucky thing! What do you think it was?" My lecturer Stuart Campbell was an advocate of the ritualised feasting interpretation. So rather than formalised religion it was an informal meeting place with equal religious and domestic applications. I wouldn't want to go against him, so that's my idea :D | |||
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"I've fucking been there!!!!! Finally i'm relevant! I participated in a dig there a few years ago as part of my degree at Manchester. We made bread and beer using ancient methods because it one of the earliest sites which demonstrated that sort of activity. It's hardly a new development though, excavation started in the nineties. You lucky thing! What do you think it was? My lecturer Stuart Campbell was an advocate of the ritualised feasting interpretation. So rather than formalised religion it was an informal meeting place with equal religious and domestic applications. I wouldn't want to go against him, so that's my idea :D " | |||
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"I've fucking been there!!!!! Finally i'm relevant! I participated in a dig there a few years ago as part of my degree at Manchester. We made bread and beer using ancient methods because it one of the earliest sites which demonstrated that sort of activity. It's hardly a new development though, excavation started in the nineties. "
I'm still waiting for a module I took on pollen analysis to have some relevance on here... | |||
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