FabSwingers.com forum: Was Jimmy Saville innocent really?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Did he actually do everything that he was accused of ?

He never had a chance to respond to or fight these accusations did he?

Do we actually know for a fact what went on?

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By *adyboy-DaddyCouple
over a year ago

Andover

This should be interesting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ooooh I'd put a tin hat on if I was you mate .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Couldn't you have just made a snog fuck avoid thread?

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think there is more than enough evidence to prove he very much is/was

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By *iBBWLondonWoman
over a year ago

London

*Puts some popcorn on the hob and grabs the comfy chair*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did he actually do everything that he was accused of ?

He never had a chance to respond to or fight these accusations did he?

Do we actually know for a fact what went on?"

The only people who will ever know is Saville and them that are acusing him x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shouldnt deem someone whos dead guilty? What about cyril smith?

I think the evidence and witnesses far outweigh any excuses or lies he could of made up in his defence if he was alive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are you sure about posting this tread. Seems like a can of worms to me. I think the balance really goes in favour of the victims and those who knew him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dead man, dead man walking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha fuckin hell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think he was a good guy, he fixed it for me to milk a cow, just I had to do it blindfolded for some reason

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By *iBBWLondonWoman
over a year ago

London

"I think he was a good guy, he fixed it for me to milk a cow, just I had to do it blindfolded for some reason

Probably not a good time to joke, dude... take cover!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There wasn't any actual forensic evidence..... if all the people who had so called abused for so many years never said anything until he past away???

I'm not saying he didn't do it and I'm he did do it.

But I do find it strange how long it took people to come forward. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you sure about posting this tread. Seems like a can of worms to me. I think the balance really goes in favour of the victims and those who knew him. "

and those who stood by turning a blind eye cough (bbc)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I also heard that Hitler was really a sensitive man.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

as the saying goes...there is no smoke without fire

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Cough ......

Even if he is the most reviled man in the country and 100% guilty there is no harm in discussing possibilities.

I for one think that being punished now for crimes that happened in a different social climate and moral system is very dodgy......... AND the media reify situations and manipulate for their own pockets.

It's a story that will run and run and run.

Pol Pot was a nice guy tho.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The ironic thing is that I don't know how he managed to sneak up on his victims with all the jewelry rattling?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I also heard that Hitler was really a sensitive man. "

He was. He used to like fried eggs and porridge and he farted on the rostrum when he got over excited.

Mock his brush over tho ......n fuck me he'd set Blondie on you in a flash ...

Not debbie harry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dead man, dead man walking "

Wanna take bets until UNLOS?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There wasn't any actual forensic evidence..... "

That's because he used to dip his cock in listerine in between victims.......that's what Frankie Boyle said anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did he actually do everything that he was accused of ?

He never had a chance to respond to or fight these accusations did he?

Do we actually know for a fact what went on?"

I don't think we do know for a fact exactly what he did or didn't do .

But I am thinking he must have done something , as it can't have all been made up ....

How serious it was at its worst , we will never know for sure .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mr Ben isn't as straight as he says. He was at my house last night sucking my boyfriends cock......

Now I have no proof he was and he has no proof wasn't. Only difference is he is here to defend his self x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mr Ben isn't as straight as he says. He was at my house last night sucking my boyfriends cock......

Now I have no proof he was and he has no proof wasn't. Only difference is he is here to defend his self x"

He may have proof he wasn't...

People can be guilty posthumously, it depends on evidence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think there is more than enough evidence to prove he very much is/was"

What evidence? X except what people have said x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mr Ben isn't as straight as he says. He was at my house last night sucking my boyfriends cock......

Now I have no proof he was and he has no proof wasn't. Only difference is he is here to defend his self x

He may have proof he wasn't...

People can be guilty posthumously, it depends on evidence. "

That's just there is no evidence. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mr Ben isn't as straight as he says. He was at my house last night sucking my boyfriends cock......

Now I have no proof he was and he has no proof wasn't. Only difference is he is here to defend his self x

He may have proof he wasn't...

People can be guilty posthumously, it depends on evidence.

That's just there is no evidence. X"

As far as you're aware.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"I also heard that Hitler was really a sensitive man. "

But... but... but what about all the *good* things Hitler did?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Mr Ben isn't as straight as he says. He was at my house last night sucking my boyfriends cock......

Now I have no proof he was and he has no proof wasn't. Only difference is he is here to defend his self x"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I also heard that Hitler was really a sensitive man.

But... but... but what about all the *good* things Hitler did?"

You mean like build all the autobahns?

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"I also heard that Hitler was really a sensitive man.

But... but... but what about all the *good* things Hitler did?

You mean like build all the autobahns?"

Volkswagen?

(clutching at straws here)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I also heard that Hitler was really a sensitive man.

But... but... but what about all the *good* things Hitler did?

You mean like build all the autobahns?"

and created a United Germany with full employment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In those days sexism was rife and it was given that men especially famous men could do as they pleased because they were famous so some men abused that position of trust. Also some young impressionable girls no doubt flirted with these men in order to get on tv. This dosent give these men the rite to abuse women in any way shape or form but I think in that day in age it was largely ignored. I believe he is guilty. It's been proven that other men of his age are guilty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I also heard that Hitler was really a sensitive man.

But... but... but what about all the *good* things Hitler did?

You mean like build all the autobahns?

and created a United Germany with full employment"

Well it's easy to get full employment if you kill enough of the unemployed!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I also heard that Hitler was really a sensitive man.

But... but... but what about all the *good* things Hitler did?

You mean like build all the autobahns?

and created a United Germany with full employment"

Yeh cos he discounted Jews, women and other minorities from the employment reports.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you sure about posting this tread. Seems like a can of worms to me. I think the balance really goes in favour of the victims and those who knew him.

and those who stood by turning a blind eye cough (bbc)"

All those who worked at the BBC and every single one of them turned a blind eye??? Extremely unlikely... I don't care if they got paid money to keep quiet. I don't know anyone who would keep their mouths shut about something this bad for no amout of money.. if they did they all would have been taken court and more then likely been sent to prison for it, IF there was any real evidence that he was guilty because they would be as bad as him.

Like I've said before he may or may not have done it but the only people who truly know is Saville himself but he not here to defend his self and the people who are saying he did it to them...

Either way if it's all lies them who are acusing should be ashamed of themselfs not only for lieing about it but also for ruining others life just for a few quid...

If he did do it then I feel so sorry for the victims and they deserve every penny they got although money won't take away what he did. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Volkswagen was originally created in 1936 by the German Labour Front (Deutsche Arbeitsfront).[6] It was originally made by a group of labour. In the early 1930s, the German auto industry was still largely composed of luxury models, and the average German could rarely afford anything more than a motorcycle. As a result, only one German out of 50 owned a car. Seeking a potential new market, some car makers began independent "peoples' car" projects.....

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By *ancscleanguyMan
over a year ago

Preston

He obviously had friends and fellow nonces in very high places which made him untouchable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Volkswagen was originally created in 1936 by the German Labour Front (Deutsche Arbeitsfront).[6] It was originally made by a group of labour. In the early 1930s, the German auto industry was still largely composed of luxury models, and the average German could rarely afford anything more than a motorcycle. As a result, only one German out of 50 owned a car. Seeking a potential new market, some car makers began independent "peoples' car" projects.....

Any way back to saville

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did he actually do everything that he was accused of ?

He never had a chance to respond to or fight these accusations did he?

Do we actually know for a fact what went on?"

Just like the holocaust never happened.....

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By *rnyashellcplCouple
over a year ago

Haydock

He looked like a kiddy messer before the 70's n hes dead anyway, he was alright when I went on jim'l'fix it, he fixed it for me to milk a cow blindfolded

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Are you sure about posting this tread. Seems like a can of worms to me. I think the balance really goes in favour of the victims and those who knew him.

and those who stood by turning a blind eye cough (bbc)

Like I've said before he may or may not have done it but the only people who truly know is Saville himself but he not here to defend his self and the people who are saying he did it to them...

Either way if it's all lies them who are acusing should be ashamed of themselfs not only for lieing about it but also for ruining others life just for a few quid...

If he did do it then I feel so sorry for the victims and they deserve every penny they got although money won't take away what he did. X"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In those days sexism was rife and it was given that men especially famous men could do as they pleased because they were famous so some men abused that position of trust. Also some young impressionable girls no doubt flirted with these men in order to get on tv. This dosent give these men the rite to abuse women in any way shape or form but I think in that day in age it was largely ignored. I believe he is guilty. It's been proven that other men of his age are guilty. "

It's also been proven that women my age have murdered someone... doesn't mean every woman is a murderer.......

It's been proven teachers have abused children.... do that mean all teacher's that age will do it???

It was proven ( by forensic evidence ) when I was 17 I was sexually abused by a 42 year old man... doesn't mean every 42 year old man will do it. So you can say just because other people his age had been done for similar things that he is guilty x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's all over and done with now... it's old news let the him be.. the possible victims have got their money like they wanted.

I have no more to say x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's all over and done with now... it's old news let the him be.. the possible victims have got their money like they wanted.

I have no more to say x"

Are you aware that victims don't get over their assault when they're awarded money?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's all over and done with now... it's old news let the him be.. the possible victims have got their money like they wanted.

I have no more to say x

Are you aware that victims don't get over their assault when they're awarded money?"

Also, civil courts are sometimes the only option when trying to establish blame as the CPS requires a high level of supporting evidence which doesn't always exist.

You shouldn't suggest someone is only in it for the money when it's the only way of penalising the defendant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's all over and done with now... it's old news let the him be.. the possible victims have got their money like they wanted.

I have no more to say x

Are you aware that victims don't get over their assault when they're awarded money?"

Read my pervious comments.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's all over and done with now... it's old news let the him be.. the possible victims have got their money like they wanted.

I have no more to say x

Are you aware that victims don't get over their assault when they're awarded money?"
She is a survivor jfc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's all over and done with now... it's old news let the him be.. the possible victims have got their money like they wanted.

I have no more to say x

Are you aware that victims don't get over their assault when they're awarded money?

Read my pervious comments....."

I have. They're heavily weighted towards Savile being innocent and the victims wanting a few quid, despite you requesting evidence for his guilt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The fact that complaints were made against him in the 70's, 80's etc which went largely ignored by the BBC and Police. Celebrities status ensured they could get away with almost anything. Having read numerous articles on Savile's crimes I can say with absolute certainty that he was a monster.

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By *exycouplemmmmCouple
over a year ago

Surrey

"The fact that complaints were made against him in the 70's, 80's etc which went largely ignored by the BBC and Police. Celebrities status ensured they could get away with almost anything. Having read numerous articles on Savile's crimes I can say with absolute certainty that he was a monster."

This!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"as the saying goes...there is no smoke without fire"

I don't agree with that quote. There's been and still will be innocent people going to jail....

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

do I think he did commit crimes: YES

do I think he committed all the crimes he is being accused of: NO

but he did wrong

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Threads like this are the reason we have a criminal justice system, as imperfect as it is.

Mob rule is very, very bad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you sure about posting this tread. Seems like a can of worms to me. I think the balance really goes in favour of the victims and those who knew him.

and those who stood by turning a blind eye cough (bbc)

Like I've said before he may or may not have done it but the only people who truly know is Saville himself but he not here to defend his self and the people who are saying he did it to them...

Either way if it's all lies them who are acusing should be ashamed of themselfs not only for lieing about it but also for ruining others life just for a few quid...

If he did do it then I feel so sorry for the victims and they deserve every penny they got although money won't take away what he did. X

I believe there were similarities that came out once the many victims were inter_iewed, plus they tallied with whereabouts and timings etc.

It's believed that victims kept quiet for a number of reasons; tried to bury the memory, some tried to trivialise it over the years, some were ashamed, didn't want to upset current family/partners etc plus didn't think anyone would believe them. It's pretty conclusive he was guilty! And a totally controlling deviant.

I was touched up by a family 'friend' years ago, he was about 60 odd and I was 12! He was a 'nice bloke' outwardly, I've never forgotten it, and he's dead now. I told my mum, and she didn't know what to do.... so nothing was done. It' still a horrible memory (and still clear)

Oh, and it's 'himself' and 'themselves'

xxx"

If I wanted an English lesson I would have gone back to college thank you...

But surely ALL the people he did it to wouldn't have kept quiet. And still there would have been some forensic evidence somewhere...

It a seems a little dodgy to me. He may have done it to 1 ot 2 who came forward after he past away because they were scared.

But then again he may not have done it...

It so unbelievably believable that so many people kept quite.

Like I said no-one except him and possibly victims will know what really happened

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I was just about to post that there is evidence that people did report him but weren't taken seriously.

As to cover ups, there is a leading children's charity that always refused to have him associated with them in any way in his lifetime.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you sure about posting this tread. Seems like a can of worms to me. I think the balance really goes in favour of the victims and those who knew him.

and those who stood by turning a blind eye cough (bbc)

Like I've said before he may or may not have done it but the only people who truly know is Saville himself but he not here to defend his self and the people who are saying he did it to them...

Either way if it's all lies them who are acusing should be ashamed of themselfs not only for lieing about it but also for ruining others life just for a few quid...

If he did do it then I feel so sorry for the victims and they deserve every penny they got although money won't take away what he did. X

I believe there were similarities that came out once the many victims were inter_iewed, plus they tallied with whereabouts and timings etc.

Oh, and it's 'himself' and 'themselves'

xxx

If I wanted an English lesson I would have gone back to college thank you...

But surely ALL the people he did it to wouldn't have kept quiet. And still there would have been some forensic evidence somewhere...

It a seems a little dodgy to me. He may have done it to 1 ot 2 who came forward after he past away because they were scared.

But then again he may not have done it...

It so unbelievably believable that so many people kept quite.

Like I said no-one except him and possibly victims will know what really happened "

There were reports dismissed decades ago, so no, not everyone kept quiet.

Are you aware of how under reported sex crimes are? Victim blaming like this doesn't help people come forward.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you sure about posting this tread. Seems like a can of worms to me. I think the balance really goes in favour of the victims and those who knew him.

and those who stood by turning a blind eye cough (bbc)

Like I've said before he may or may not have done it but the only people who truly know is Saville himself but he not here to defend his self and the people who are saying he did it to them...

Either way if it's all lies them who are acusing should be ashamed of themselfs not only for lieing about it but also for ruining others life just for a few quid...

If he did do it then I feel so sorry for the victims and they deserve every penny they got although money won't take away what he did. X

I believe there were similarities that came out once the many victims were inter_iewed, plus they tallied with whereabouts and timings etc.

Oh, and it's 'himself' and 'themselves'

xxx

If I wanted an English lesson I would have gone back to college thank you...

But surely ALL the people he did it to wouldn't have kept quiet. And still there would have been some forensic evidence somewhere...

It a seems a little dodgy to me. He may have done it to 1 ot 2 who came forward after he past away because they were scared.

But then again he may not have done it...

It so unbelievably believable that so many people kept quite.

Like I said no-one except him and possibly victims will know what really happened

There were reports dismissed decades ago, so no, not everyone kept quiet.

Are you aware of how under reported sex crimes are? Victim blaming like this doesn't help people come forward."

Dismissed to lack of evidence x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you sure about posting this tread. Seems like a can of worms to me. I think the balance really goes in favour of the victims and those who knew him.

and those who stood by turning a blind eye cough (bbc)

Like I've said before he may or may not have done it but the only people who truly know is Saville himself but he not here to defend his self and the people who are saying he did it to them...

Either way if it's all lies them who are acusing should be ashamed of themselfs not only for lieing about it but also for ruining others life just for a few quid...

If he did do it then I feel so sorry for the victims and they deserve every penny they got although money won't take away what he did. X

I believe there were similarities that came out once the many victims were inter_iewed, plus they tallied with whereabouts and timings etc.

Oh, and it's 'himself' and 'themselves'

xxx

If I wanted an English lesson I would have gone back to college thank you...

But surely ALL the people he did it to wouldn't have kept quiet. And still there would have been some forensic evidence somewhere...

It a seems a little dodgy to me. He may have done it to 1 ot 2 who came forward after he past away because they were scared.

But then again he may not have done it...

It so unbelievably believable that so many people kept quite.

Like I said no-one except him and possibly victims will know what really happened

There were reports dismissed decades ago, so no, not everyone kept quiet.

Are you aware of how under reported sex crimes are? Victim blaming like this doesn't help people come forward.

Dismissed to lack of evidence x"

You can't possibly know that. I hope your ignorance isn't rooted in admiration.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In all seriousness, there isn't a sexual predator on the planet that was shown to have such a vast "preference" as is alleged with Saville - very young to very old, male and female, dead or alive...some may be true, I don't doubt it (though this could all be based on the fact I thought he was a bit weird) but no way is every allegation true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you sure about posting this tread. Seems like a can of worms to me. I think the balance really goes in favour of the victims and those who knew him.

and those who stood by turning a blind eye cough (bbc)

Like I've said before he may or may not have done it but the only people who truly know is Saville himself but he not here to defend his self and the people who are saying he did it to them...

Either way if it's all lies them who are acusing should be ashamed of themselfs not only for lieing about it but also for ruining others life just for a few quid...

If he did do it then I feel so sorry for the victims and they deserve every penny they got although money won't take away what he did. X

I believe there were similarities that came out once the many victims were inter_iewed, plus they tallied with whereabouts and timings etc.

Oh, and it's 'himself' and 'themselves'

xxx

If I wanted an English lesson I would have gone back to college thank you...

But surely ALL the people he did it to wouldn't have kept quiet. And still there would have been some forensic evidence somewhere...

It a seems a little dodgy to me. He may have done it to 1 ot 2 who came forward after he past away because they were scared.

But then again he may not have done it...

It so unbelievably believable that so many people kept quite.

Like I said no-one except him and possibly victims will know what really happened

There were reports dismissed decades ago, so no, not everyone kept quiet.

Are you aware of how under reported sex crimes are? Victim blaming like this doesn't help people come forward.

Dismissed to lack of evidence x

You can't possibly know that. I hope your ignorance isn't rooted in admiration. "

Like I have said several times before the only people who will know the truth is them who are acusing and himself.

I never liked the bloke as a kid but then again I didn't like the old guy who lived next to me as a kid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In all seriousness, there isn't a sexual predator on the planet that was shown to have such a vast "preference" as is alleged with Saville - very young to very old, male and female, dead or alive...some may be true, I don't doubt it (though this could all be based on the fact I thought he was a bit weird) but no way is every allegation true"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you sure about posting this tread. Seems like a can of worms to me. I think the balance really goes in favour of the victims and those who knew him.

and those who stood by turning a blind eye cough (bbc)

Like I've said before he may or may not have done it but the only people who truly know is Saville himself but he not here to defend his self and the people who are saying he did it to them...

Either way if it's all lies them who are acusing should be ashamed of themselfs not only for lieing about it but also for ruining others life just for a few quid...

If he did do it then I feel so sorry for the victims and they deserve every penny they got although money won't take away what he did. X"
where do you get this false notion that victims of sexual abuse get money ? I will also say that people do keep quiet about this sort of thing. Victims came forward when savile was alive. They were not believed , discredited, and many cases by famous perpetrators were covered up by the police. This is on record. Former police officers who investigated cyril smith and savile have all said they were told to shut up by senior officers. People at the bbc also came forward about concerns regarding savile and others and were dismissed and ignored.

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over a year ago

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"There wasn't any actual forensic evidence..... if all the people who had so called abused for so many years never said anything until he past away???

I'm not saying he didn't do it and I'm he did do it.

But I do find it strange how long it took people to come forward. X"
. That is what I find rather strange . Why was he not prosecuted when he was alive and why did these victims not come forward then?.

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over a year ago

He seemed pretty innocent when I met him.

I was 10 and he introduced me to his friends, Rolf and Gary.

They gave me a lovely glass of their special milk.

I had a little sleep and when I woke up they were all cuddling me.

The milk must have been off though as it did taste funny and my bum was a little sore when I woke up

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over a year ago

He probably didn't do all the things he's been accused of. He undoubtedly did some of them.

There's a real danger of everything being hyped up into a witch hunting frenzy, which doesn't do victims or anyone else any good - so I do worry that the pendulum may be swinging too far towards guilty until proved innocent.

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"Are you sure about posting this tread. Seems like a can of worms to me. I think the balance really goes in favour of the victims and those who knew him.

and those who stood by turning a blind eye cough (bbc)

Like I've said before he may or may not have done it but the only people who truly know is Saville himself but he not here to defend his self and the people who are saying he did it to them...

Either way if it's all lies them who are acusing should be ashamed of themselfs not only for lieing about it but also for ruining others life just for a few quid...

If he did do it then I feel so sorry for the victims and they deserve every penny they got although money won't take away what he did. X

I believe there were similarities that came out once the many victims were inter_iewed, plus they tallied with whereabouts and timings etc.

Oh, and it's 'himself' and 'themselves'

xxx

If I wanted an English lesson I would have gone back to college thank you...

But surely ALL the people he did it to wouldn't have kept quiet. And still there would have been some forensic evidence somewhere...

It a seems a little dodgy to me. He may have done it to 1 ot 2 who came forward after he past away because they were scared.

But then again he may not have done it...

It so unbelievably believable that so many people kept quite.

Like I said no-one except him and possibly victims will know what really happened

There were reports dismissed decades ago, so no, not everyone kept quiet.

Are you aware of how under reported sex crimes are? Victim blaming like this doesn't help people come forward.

Dismissed to lack of evidence x

You can't possibly know that. I hope your ignorance isn't rooted in admiration.

Like I have said several times before the only people who will know the truth is them who are acusing and himself.

I never liked the bloke as a kid but then again I didn't like the old guy who lived next to me as a kid. "

Well, no, that's not what you're saying. You've said some horrible things about victims of crime, suggesting they're in it for the money. Perhaps when you don't know the truth and you're not satisfied with their statements, you shouldn't say such things and should be a bit more sympathetic.

I'm sure you'd want to be listened to and heard should you report a similar crime.

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"Are you sure about posting this tread. Seems like a can of worms to me. I think the balance really goes in favour of the victims and those who knew him.

and those who stood by turning a blind eye cough (bbc)

Like I've said before he may or may not have done it but the only people who truly know is Saville himself but he not here to defend his self and the people who are saying he did it to them...

Either way if it's all lies them who are acusing should be ashamed of themselfs not only for lieing about it but also for ruining others life just for a few quid...

If he did do it then I feel so sorry for the victims and they deserve every penny they got although money won't take away what he did. X where do you get this false notion that victims of sexual abuse get money ? I will also say that people do keep quiet about this sort of thing. Victims came forward when savile was alive. They were not believed , discredited, and many cases by famous perpetrators were covered up by the police. This is on record. Former police officers who investigated cyril smith and savile have all said they were told to shut up by senior officers. People at the bbc also came forward about concerns regarding savile and others and were dismissed and ignored."

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"Are you sure about posting this tread. Seems like a can of worms to me. I think the balance really goes in favour of the victims and those who knew him.

and those who stood by turning a blind eye cough (bbc)

Like I've said before he may or may not have done it but the only people who truly know is Saville himself but he not here to defend his self and the people who are saying he did it to them...

Either way if it's all lies them who are acusing should be ashamed of themselfs not only for lieing about it but also for ruining others life just for a few quid...

Ah yes, the BBC back then was famously anti corruption with their talent.

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"Are you sure about posting this tread. Seems like a can of worms to me. I think the balance really goes in favour of the victims and those who knew him.

and those who stood by turning a blind eye cough (bbc)

Like I've said before he may or may not have done it but the only people who truly know is Saville himself but he not here to defend his self and the people who are saying he did it to them...

Either way if it's all lies them who are acusing should be ashamed of themselfs not only for lieing about it but also for ruining others life just for a few quid...

If he did do it then I feel so sorry for the victims and they deserve every penny they got although money won't take away what he did. X

I believe there were similarities that came out once the many victims were inter_iewed, plus they tallied with whereabouts and timings etc.

Oh, and it's 'himself' and 'themselves'

xxx

If I wanted an English lesson I would have gone back to college thank you...

But surely ALL the people he did it to wouldn't have kept quiet. And still there would have been some forensic evidence somewhere...

It a seems a little dodgy to me. He may have done it to 1 ot 2 who came forward after he past away because they were scared.

But then again he may not have done it...

It so unbelievably believable that so many people kept quite.

Like I said no-one except him and possibly victims will know what really happened

There were reports dismissed decades ago, so no, not everyone kept quiet.

Are you aware of how under reported sex crimes are? Victim blaming like this doesn't help people come forward.

Dismissed to lack of evidence x

You can't possibly know that. I hope your ignorance isn't rooted in admiration.

Like I have said several times before the only people who will know the truth is them who are acusing and himself.

I never liked the bloke as a kid but then again I didn't like the old guy who lived next to me as a kid.

I'm sure you'd want to be listened to and heard should you report a similar crime."

I have said if it's true then the victims deserve the money they got even though it won't change what happened.

If it's not true them the so called victims should be ashamed.

And said no 1 except the victims and Saville will know the truth.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

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I don't like the presumption of guilt that seems to be loaded upon dead people. It's contrary to innocence that living people have and unjust.

In the case or wealthier people it also appears an avenue for malicious wrong doing against their character and estate. Such claims are likely to be legion, due to the easy money that they perceive to flood to themselves.

I think this man must have done an awful lot of great things for charities and hospitals, so there should be limitation placed upon claimants where they benefited earlier from his channeled funds too.

I am in no fit position to judge whether he did anything sinister, due to media campaign overload. He wasn't the run of the mill person but the tyranny of the masses should be thwarted as an effect to prevent any of us - living or dead - from undue suffering.

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over a year ago

"Did he actually do everything that he was accused of ?

He never had a chance to respond to or fight these accusations did he?

Do we actually know for a fact what went on?"

Even if you had posted this yesterday, it would have been the worst taste April fool joke ever.

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"Are you sure about posting this tread. Seems like a can of worms to me. I think the balance really goes in favour of the victims and those who knew him.

and those who stood by turning a blind eye cough (bbc)

Like I've said before he may or may not have done it but the only people who truly know is Saville himself but he not here to defend his self and the people who are saying he did it to them...

Either way if it's all lies them who are acusing should be ashamed of themselfs not only for lieing about it but also for ruining others life just for a few quid...

If he did do it then I feel so sorry for the victims and they deserve every penny they got although money won't take away what he did. X

I believe there were similarities that came out once the many victims were inter_iewed, plus they tallied with whereabouts and timings etc.

Oh, and it's 'himself' and 'themselves'

xxx

If I wanted an English lesson I would have gone back to college thank you...

But surely ALL the people he did it to wouldn't have kept quiet. And still there would have been some forensic evidence somewhere...

It a seems a little dodgy to me. He may have done it to 1 ot 2 who came forward after he past away because they were scared.

But then again he may not have done it...

It so unbelievably believable that so many people kept quite.

Like I said no-one except him and possibly victims will know what really happened

There were reports dismissed decades ago, so no, not everyone kept quiet.

Are you aware of how under reported sex crimes are? Victim blaming like this doesn't help people come forward.

Dismissed to lack of evidence x

You can't possibly know that. I hope your ignorance isn't rooted in admiration.

Like I have said several times before the only people who will know the truth is them who are acusing and himself.

I never liked the bloke as a kid but then again I didn't like the old guy who lived next to me as a kid.

I'm sure you'd want to be listened to and heard should you report a similar crime.

I have said if it's true then the victims deserve the money they got even though it won't change what happened.

If it's not true them the so called victims should be ashamed.

And said no 1 except the victims and Saville will know the truth."

You've also suggested they're liars for not speaking up sooner, that there was no cover up, that Savile couldn't have done it as the ages of victims ranged too greatly, and that it's all "dodgy".

Sure sounds like you're awarding the victims an open mind.

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"Are you sure about posting this tread. Seems like a can of worms to me. I think the balance really goes in favour of the victims and those who knew him.

and those who stood by turning a blind eye cough (bbc)

Like I've said before he may or may not have done it but the only people who truly know is Saville himself but he not here to defend his self and the people who are saying he did it to them...

Either way if it's all lies them who are acusing should be ashamed of themselfs not only for lieing about it but also for ruining others life just for a few quid...

It may have been dismissed once or twice and maybe they were told to shut up.... but no decent human being would just leave it if they knew it was happening or even had the slightest thought it might be happening. Even if it ment losing their job. They would fight til the truth was out x"
You seem to want to ignore that police officers who investigated savile , cyril smith and many other famous paedophiles at the time they were alive were ordered to stop investigating and commenting on what they knew and what evidence they had. I am left wondering what sort of human being jumps to the defence of such vile wankers. I wouldnt mind so much if you actually had a tangible argument and some knowledge of these cases but quite clearly you don't have a clue.