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By *eMontres OP   Man
over a year ago

Halesowen

Just got my first contactless payment card and I really like it.

However, having spent 15 years in IT Security, I know that it will only be a matter of time, if not already available, before you can get contactless readers off the likes of ebay.

Yes, I know the cards are encrypted, but there has always been brute force software that given sufficient time, can break any encryption.

So the worry is, that in crowded places, like the tube, sports events, gigs etc. you could have your card details harvested by someone brushing past you.

I've seen metal card holders for around £5, but they're bulky.

So, I've made 2 credit card sized blanks out of aluminium foil and inserted them in my card holder so they shield the cards.

Tried it out in the shop - works a treat, card reader wouldn't read it until I removed it from the card holder

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Not a bad idea.

Some of them are a bit too sensitive.

I've heard of the person behind paying by accident or payment being taken from cards still in wallets and bags.

No sure his true sims are though.

Nita

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

The sensitivity was was more of a problem when they first came out. Now they really need you to make contact. I call them Tap 'n' Go as they are not contactless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can buy slim RFID wallets.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"The sensitivity was was more of a problem when they first came out. Now they really need you to make contact. I call them Tap 'n' Go as they are not contactless.

"

Mine is definitely contactless. Don't need to do it very close to M&S or Boots readers, although I have to tap it for the Tube.

I'm so used to mine now I forget the max it can do is £30 . Tried to pay a £200 deposit with it today.

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By *eMontres OP   Man
over a year ago

Halesowen


"Not a bad idea.

Some of them are a bit too sensitive.

I've heard of the person behind paying by accident or payment being taken from cards still in wallets and bags.

No sure his true sims are though.

Nita

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Yes, of course, that's the other worry, having a payment erroneously deducted

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By *eMontres OP   Man
over a year ago

Halesowen


"You can buy slim RFID wallets. "

Yes, but I like my credit card holder and would never put cards in my wallet.

I'm sure there will be shielded, slim card holders about, but a roll of foil costs around 50p from Tesco/ASDA/Sainsbury's

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I dont like them, when you type your number in at least i register im spending money with that i dont. Most of my general everyday usage is below £30 a time id soon lose track of what im spending

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jokes on them, I'm poor

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"The sensitivity was was more of a problem when they first came out. Now they really need you to make contact. I call them Tap 'n' Go as they are not contactless.

Mine is definitely contactless. Don't need to do it very close to M&S or Boots readers, although I have to tap it for the Tube.

I'm so used to mine now I forget the max it can do is £30 . Tried to pay a £200 deposit with it today. "

I have to tap twice for M&S.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Last time there was a thread like this it got heated with "experts" claiming that cards could not be read

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

I would prefer not to have a contactless card. My bank sent me one and apparently I am stuck with it. I won't use it as contactless. I'd change it for a regular chip and pin card if I could.

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By *eMontres OP   Man
over a year ago

Halesowen


"Last time there was a thread like this it got heated with "experts" claiming that cards could not be read"

Clearly they can be communicated with, else the technology would be pointless

I've been out of the industry for over 10 years, so not sure what the vulnerabilities are. One thing I did learn and I'm sure it's still true, nothing is ever 100% secure.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Last time there was a thread like this it got heated with "experts" claiming that cards could not be read"

I've heard that readers are readily available now.

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By *aramelMINXWoman
over a year ago

West Yorkshire

£shop do rfid card holders

But I bought aluminium sleeves from eBay

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By *aramelMINXWoman
over a year ago

West Yorkshire


"Jokes on them, I'm poor"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just use my phone for contactless payments as you have to switch it on with a double click so it's not active until you need it

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By *eteinhantsMan
over a year ago

Southsea

Im sure i saw something or heard something where someone was using a mobile device to scan cards for £30 a pop in crowded places like the tube, cant see why they dont stick with chip and pin

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By *eMontres OP   Man
over a year ago

Halesowen


"£shop do rfid card holders

But I bought aluminium sleeves from eBay "

Ah, not seen those, will check them out - I could stretch to £1 and keep the foil for sandwiches

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest


"£shop do rfid card holders

But I bought aluminium sleeves from eBay

Ah, not seen those, will check them out - I could stretch to £1 and keep the foil for sandwiches

"

If they have any hats to match can you get me one please, cheers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've seen reports of people with these devices on the tube and stuff, scary stuff

Scares the life out of me that ads just puts his wallet on to the machine, he doesn't even take the bloody thing out his wallet!!

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By *iforfun999Man
over a year ago

Haverfordwest

If you don't like them, you can request a replacement which does not have it on. The first contactless card I received, i phoned to request a non contactless replacement and had one sent straight away. I tested it, to make sure and sure enough, it wasn't contactless.

I do embrace technology, but not this type.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would prefer not to have a contactless card. My bank sent me one and apparently I am stuck with it. I won't use it as contactless. I'd change it for a regular chip and pin card if I could."

You can but you have to put overdraft control on your account I no this because I changed mine for it and also been in to order a new 1 today as mines tatty an she done it there an then as a non contactless

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bit old fashioned but I would sooner pay cash

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I saw a contactless payment for the first time.today, it doesn't exist where I live I prefer the old fashioned method of cash

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've gone from thinking they're a risk to getting frustrated when shops don't have them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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So, I've made 2 credit card sized blanks out of aluminium foil and inserted them in my card holder so they shield the cards.

Tried it out in the shop - works a treat, card reader wouldn't read it until I removed it from the card holder "

Sounds like a massive faff considering the slightest bit of dirt on my card stops it being recognised by the card reader, let alone anyone being able to 'swipe' it through a layer of jeans

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