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"So how many of u play these.. Whats your fave console/game.... Fave console my self was megadrive as i grew up with it." It's all about the Sega Saturn, most underrated consol of all time | |||
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"Lol so far i have and all work :- Ps1 to 4 All xboxs Sega saturn/megadrive/dreamcast/megacd Nes Snes N64.. Amiga 1200 Been collecting them" The question is, have you played Panzer Dragoon Saga on the Saturn? If not, you haven't lived... FACT | |||
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"Had an Amega, Mega Drive and PS1-4, loving Fall Out 4 though my character gets more action than me!" Ah PS1 the console that killed Sega and should never have existed... (Sony tried to work on joint projects with Nintendo and Sega but got shafted by both before reluctantly creating their own!) | |||
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"At the moment, Minecraft is my 'zoning out' game. We have a nes, snes, n64, game cube and wii set up in the garage "I emulate I've grown weary of games..I feel the magics lost a little..probably mainly due to the popularity of the other consoles/game types..that arent nintendo. I see most of the games just being clones of clones on ps4/xbox1.. Single player adventures are less catered for, and even then..half of them cant even compare to games such as zelda..even mario64 is still a gaming milestone...that's been attempted to copy and failed(even by ninty themselves ffs!) bringing me back to zelda..the new wii u one, just has something good looking about it...but the last few titles from zelda never captured me that much..I hope this will change that, and give me that feeling I got from a link to the past and ocarina of time(and a few of the handheld versions) | |||
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"I've played games most of my life, but I suppose I'd consider the 16bit era to be the pinnacle of gaming so far, the simple technology really pushed developers to use their imaginations, and much treasure was made as a result. Many 16bit era games still feel as fresh and fun as they did over 20 years ago, much 32bit stuff is nearly unplayable." Fair point but if you get a 32 bit remake it can be awesome, the game cube remake of resident evil is awesome... | |||
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"Ahh yes nintendo went with Phillips but never released n e thing Other then phillips cdi zelda which was crap.. Oh i got a cube also" they only licensed a game, for educational purposes..nintendo never liked the CD system..due to ease of piracy..and they did take a huge chunk of 3rd party companies monies in cartridge sales I think.. | |||
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"I've played games most of my life, but I suppose I'd consider the 16bit era to be the pinnacle of gaming so far, the simple technology really pushed developers to use their imaginations, and much treasure was made as a result. Many 16bit era games still feel as fresh and fun as they did over 20 years ago, much 32bit stuff is nearly unplayable. Fair point but if you get a 32 bit remake it can be awesome, the game cube remake of resident evil is awesome... " the gamecube version of resevil 4, still technically outshines any other version(though I know theres a mod for pc to improve it to the gamecubes graphics at least)- | |||
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"I've played games most of my life, but I suppose I'd consider the 16bit era to be the pinnacle of gaming so far, the simple technology really pushed developers to use their imaginations, and much treasure was made as a result. Many 16bit era games still feel as fresh and fun as they did over 20 years ago, much 32bit stuff is nearly unplayable. Fair point but if you get a 32 bit remake it can be awesome, the game cube remake of resident evil is awesome... the gamecube version of resevil 4, still technically outshines any other version(though I know theres a mod for pc to improve it to the gamecubes graphics at least)-" I wasn't a fan to be honest, RE4 isn't survival horror anymore. It's not bad, it's just different and shouldn't carry the RE name in my option. RE2 was the best by far. | |||
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"I had a ZX81...I remember it taking forever to programme the tennis game ..In fact by the time I had typed all the letters and numbers in I couldn't be arsed to play the game !! "The keyboard used to get really hot, hours to programme games in then record them onto tape | |||
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"So how many of u play these.. Whats your fave console/game.... Fave console my self was megadrive as i grew up with it." I loved the mega drive and the master system.. I had an Atari a spectrum 128k plus. All the PlayStations up to current day and all of the X boxes to the current day xxx Love a good game | |||
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"So how many of u play these.. Whats your fave console/game.... Fave console my self was megadrive as i grew up with it." Had just about every games console going since the 1980's. Love video games, fave console of all time I think has to be the SNES, Street fighter 2 and Mario Kart on it was ace. I'm on Xbox 360 now, thinking of upgrading to xbox one soon. | |||
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"I've played games most of my life, but I suppose I'd consider the 16bit era to be the pinnacle of gaming so far, the simple technology really pushed developers to use their imaginations, and much treasure was made as a result. Many 16bit era games still feel as fresh and fun as they did over 20 years ago, much 32bit stuff is nearly unplayable. Fair point but if you get a 32 bit remake it can be awesome, the game cube remake of resident evil is awesome... the gamecube version of resevil 4, still technically outshines any other version(though I know theres a mod for pc to improve it to the gamecubes graphics at least)- I wasn't a fan to be honest, RE4 isn't survival horror anymore. It's not bad, it's just different and shouldn't carry the RE name in my option. RE2 was the best by far. " dreamcast code veronica I loved.. but agreed, the series took a wrong direction-admittedly I was never a fan of the puzzles lol | |||
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"I've played games most of my life, but I suppose I'd consider the 16bit era to be the pinnacle of gaming so far, the simple technology really pushed developers to use their imaginations, and much treasure was made as a result. Many 16bit era games still feel as fresh and fun as they did over 20 years ago, much 32bit stuff is nearly unplayable. Fair point but if you get a 32 bit remake it can be awesome, the game cube remake of resident evil is awesome... the gamecube version of resevil 4, still technically outshines any other version(though I know theres a mod for pc to improve it to the gamecubes graphics at least)- I wasn't a fan to be honest, RE4 isn't survival horror anymore. It's not bad, it's just different and shouldn't carry the RE name in my option. RE2 was the best by far. dreamcast code veronica I loved.. but agreed, the series took a wrong direction-admittedly I was never a fan of the puzzles lol" Oh good one, yes that was an absolute gem with the best story line and the haunted house | |||
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"So how many of u play these.. Whats your fave console/game.... Fave console my self was megadrive as i grew up with it. Had just about every games console going since the 1980's. Love video games, fave console of all time I think has to be the SNES, Street fighter 2 and Mario Kart on it was ace. I'm on Xbox 360 now, thinking of upgrading to xbox one soon. " sf2 turbo on high speed! I prefer them on the emulators now..no slowdown lol- that was my only gripe of the snes and its 3.57mhz processor(I'm recalling that from memory lol), and the megadrive was 7 mhz..at least the snes superFX chip helped.. but remember when everyone seen donkey kong country on the snes? | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives" Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece " sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch... | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch..." Are you high? Sega does what nintendon't | |||
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"I've played games most of my life, but I suppose I'd consider the 16bit era to be the pinnacle of gaming so far, the simple technology really pushed developers to use their imaginations, and much treasure was made as a result. Many 16bit era games still feel as fresh and fun as they did over 20 years ago, much 32bit stuff is nearly unplayable. Fair point but if you get a 32 bit remake it can be awesome, the game cube remake of resident evil is awesome... the gamecube version of resevil 4, still technically outshines any other version(though I know theres a mod for pc to improve it to the gamecubes graphics at least)- I wasn't a fan to be honest, RE4 isn't survival horror anymore. It's not bad, it's just different and shouldn't carry the RE name in my option. RE2 was the best by far. dreamcast code veronica I loved.. but agreed, the series took a wrong direction-admittedly I was never a fan of the puzzles lol" Fave Dreamcast games Power Stone and Virtua Fighter. Sega Rally on the Saturn. | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch... Are you high? Sega does what nintendon't" Nintendo have stood the test of time and still produce games consoles with the wii. Sega just make games now, maybe they just can't cut it anymore in the console market. | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch... Are you high? Sega does what nintendon't" lol the facts are plain..nintendo has been the gaming influence for the home generation..sega was essentially just porting arcade games over. Even their best rpg's werent that great.. I even think the dreamcast was pretty poorly represented by sega..most of the AAA titles that were great werent sega produce *an exception on shenmue possibly ...loved that game | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch..." Streets of Rage on the megadrive or Final fight on the SNES was always a tough choice which one was best? For Driving games i dont think anything Sega produced on the megadrive matched F-Zero on the SNES. | |||
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"Started with a zx spectrum rubber keys of course then went to a Atari before getting a Amiga 1200 with hard drive sensible world of soccer best game ever " | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch... Streets of Rage on the megadrive or Final fight on the SNES was always a tough choice which one was best? For Driving games i dont think anything Sega produced on the megadrive matched F-Zero on the SNES. " final fight was great..but the pal versions of most snes games really didnt help..squashed screen,slowdown.. as for racing, strangely I wasnt a mariokart fan that much on the snes. F=zero I've loved all versions!-over the wipeout series anyday! micromachines(didnt seem to matter if it was snes/megadrive), I loved..though I really loved the n64 one too. and STILL one of the most astounding games has to be 1080 on the n64...and definitely superior over all them ssx tricky shits lol..(granted some of the stunts were nigh on impossible lol), but whatta game. | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch... Are you high? Sega does what nintendon't Nintendo have stood the test of time and still produce games consoles with the wii. Sega just make games now, maybe they just can't cut it anymore in the console market. " Sega don't know how to run a business that's for sure and they rightly went to the cleaners. That's commercial success though, creatively I think they kicked the shit out of nintendo. Nintendo have never done anything like echo the dolphin or nights into dreams... | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch... Streets of Rage on the megadrive or Final fight on the SNES was always a tough choice which one was best? For Driving games i dont think anything Sega produced on the megadrive matched F-Zero on the SNES. final fight was great..but the pal versions of most snes games really didnt help..squashed screen,slowdown.. as for racing, strangely I wasnt a mariokart fan that much on the snes. F=zero I've loved all versions!-over the wipeout series anyday! micromachines(didnt seem to matter if it was snes/megadrive), I loved..though I really loved the n64 one too. and STILL one of the most astounding games has to be 1080 on the n64...and definitely superior over all them ssx tricky shits lol..(granted some of the stunts were nigh on impossible lol), but whatta game." The n64, what a game Goldeneye was on that console and it was the game that got me into first person shooters. I never had a PC back then so I couldn't play Doom. | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch... Are you high? Sega does what nintendon't lol the facts are plain..nintendo has been the gaming influence for the home generation..sega was essentially just porting arcade games over. Even their best rpg's werent that great.. " As I said above, you need to play Panzer Dragoon Saga before you can make that statement | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch... Streets of Rage on the megadrive or Final fight on the SNES was always a tough choice which one was best? For Driving games i dont think anything Sega produced on the megadrive matched F-Zero on the SNES. final fight was great..but the pal versions of most snes games really didnt help..squashed screen,slowdown.. as for racing, strangely I wasnt a mariokart fan that much on the snes. F=zero I've loved all versions!-over the wipeout series anyday! micromachines(didnt seem to matter if it was snes/megadrive), I loved..though I really loved the n64 one too. and STILL one of the most astounding games has to be 1080 on the n64...and definitely superior over all them ssx tricky shits lol..(granted some of the stunts were nigh on impossible lol), but whatta game. The n64, what a game Goldeneye was on that console and it was the game that got me into first person shooters. I never had a PC back then so I couldn't play Doom. " Goldeneye was awesome and N64 is the best multi-player platform of all time, in my opinion | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch... Are you high? Sega does what nintendon't lol the facts are plain..nintendo has been the gaming influence for the home generation..sega was essentially just porting arcade games over. Even their best rpg's werent that great.. As I said above, you need to play Panzer Dragoon Saga before you can make that statement" I will check that out lol. I think you should play some mario..make sure you complete them properly though...way more advanced than sonic...way more. | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch... Streets of Rage on the megadrive or Final fight on the SNES was always a tough choice which one was best? For Driving games i dont think anything Sega produced on the megadrive matched F-Zero on the SNES. final fight was great..but the pal versions of most snes games really didnt help..squashed screen,slowdown.. as for racing, strangely I wasnt a mariokart fan that much on the snes. F=zero I've loved all versions!-over the wipeout series anyday! micromachines(didnt seem to matter if it was snes/megadrive), I loved..though I really loved the n64 one too. and STILL one of the most astounding games has to be 1080 on the n64...and definitely superior over all them ssx tricky shits lol..(granted some of the stunts were nigh on impossible lol), but whatta game. The n64, what a game Goldeneye was on that console and it was the game that got me into first person shooters. I never had a PC back then so I couldn't play Doom. Goldeneye was awesome and N64 is the best multi-player platform of all time, in my opinion " yup defo. *doom64 is actually bloody good- shat it so many times lol | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch... Are you high? Sega does what nintendon't lol the facts are plain..nintendo has been the gaming influence for the home generation..sega was essentially just porting arcade games over. Even their best rpg's werent that great.. As I said above, you need to play Panzer Dragoon Saga before you can make that statement I will check that out lol. I think you should play some mario..make sure you complete them properly though...way more advanced than sonic...way more." Mario is alright but sonic has better graphics and sound. Donkey Kong is a stronger competitor really. Shining Force is also awesome... | |||
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"For the record, anyone interested in the sound of 16bit gaming should youtube 'Metal Squad', in my mind, not only a Megadrive classic track, but one of the best game themes OF ALL TIME, seriously!" thunderforce ..brill games..where the snes couldnt shine graphically with the amount of sprites/speed. however, we did have UN squadron..I still play that on accasion | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch... Are you high? Sega does what nintendon't lol the facts are plain..nintendo has been the gaming influence for the home generation..sega was essentially just porting arcade games over. Even their best rpg's werent that great.. As I said above, you need to play Panzer Dragoon Saga before you can make that statement I will check that out lol. I think you should play some mario..make sure you complete them properly though...way more advanced than sonic...way more. Mario is alright but sonic has better graphics and sound. Donkey Kong is a stronger competitor really. Shining Force is also awesome... " I think this is more about style over gameplay.. mario is a pixel perfect jumper, controls are so finely tuned.. its like saying tombraider has better control over mario64..they are worlds apart, with the latter being ultimately superior. | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch... Are you high? Sega does what nintendon't lol the facts are plain..nintendo has been the gaming influence for the home generation..sega was essentially just porting arcade games over. Even their best rpg's werent that great.. As I said above, you need to play Panzer Dragoon Saga before you can make that statement I will check that out lol. I think you should play some mario..make sure you complete them properly though...way more advanced than sonic...way more. Mario is alright but sonic has better graphics and sound. Donkey Kong is a stronger competitor really. Shining Force is also awesome... I think this is more about style over gameplay.. mario is a pixel perfect jumper, controls are so finely tuned.. its like saying tombraider has better control over mario64..they are worlds apart, with the latter being ultimately superior." Are you sure you've played sonic 2? Mario was good on the NES but on 16 bits it was surpassed by sonic and Donkey Kong. In the 3D realm it made a come back though and I'd rate Mario64 over the 3D sonic games. | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch... Are you high? Sega does what nintendon't lol the facts are plain..nintendo has been the gaming influence for the home generation..sega was essentially just porting arcade games over. Even their best rpg's werent that great.. As I said above, you need to play Panzer Dragoon Saga before you can make that statement I will check that out lol. I think you should play some mario..make sure you complete them properly though...way more advanced than sonic...way more. Mario is alright but sonic has better graphics and sound. Donkey Kong is a stronger competitor really. Shining Force is also awesome... I think this is more about style over gameplay.. mario is a pixel perfect jumper, controls are so finely tuned.. its like saying tombraider has better control over mario64..they are worlds apart, with the latter being ultimately superior. Are you sure you've played sonic 2? Mario was good on the NES but on 16 bits it was surpassed by sonic and Donkey Kong. In the 3D realm it made a come back though and I'd rate Mario64 over the 3D sonic games. " super mario world on the snes,smb4...is heralded as the greatest 16bit platformer ever..and I bloody know why...its a brilliant game.It'll always blow any of the sonics out the water, and donkkeykong(which i prefer over sonic anyway), but as gameplay depth goes..you have to be inside the mario game to see how much more it offers..as..the rightly appointed ,king of the platformers. | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch... Are you high? Sega does what nintendon't lol the facts are plain..nintendo has been the gaming influence for the home generation..sega was essentially just porting arcade games over. Even their best rpg's werent that great.. As I said above, you need to play Panzer Dragoon Saga before you can make that statement I will check that out lol. I think you should play some mario..make sure you complete them properly though...way more advanced than sonic...way more. Mario is alright but sonic has better graphics and sound. Donkey Kong is a stronger competitor really. Shining Force is also awesome... I think this is more about style over gameplay.. mario is a pixel perfect jumper, controls are so finely tuned.. its like saying tombraider has better control over mario64..they are worlds apart, with the latter being ultimately superior. Are you sure you've played sonic 2? Mario was good on the NES but on 16 bits it was surpassed by sonic and Donkey Kong. In the 3D realm it made a come back though and I'd rate Mario64 over the 3D sonic games. " I cant believe you even mentioned the 3d sonic games... | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch... Are you high? Sega does what nintendon't lol the facts are plain..nintendo has been the gaming influence for the home generation..sega was essentially just porting arcade games over. Even their best rpg's werent that great.. As I said above, you need to play Panzer Dragoon Saga before you can make that statement I will check that out lol. I think you should play some mario..make sure you complete them properly though...way more advanced than sonic...way more. Mario is alright but sonic has better graphics and sound. Donkey Kong is a stronger competitor really. Shining Force is also awesome... I think this is more about style over gameplay.. mario is a pixel perfect jumper, controls are so finely tuned.. its like saying tombraider has better control over mario64..they are worlds apart, with the latter being ultimately superior. Are you sure you've played sonic 2? Mario was good on the NES but on 16 bits it was surpassed by sonic and Donkey Kong. In the 3D realm it made a come back though and I'd rate Mario64 over the 3D sonic games. super mario world on the snes,smb4...is heralded as the greatest 16bit platformer ever..and I bloody know why...its a brilliant game.It'll always blow any of the sonics out the water, and donkkeykong(which i prefer over sonic anyway), but as gameplay depth goes..you have to be inside the mario game to see how much more it offers..as..the rightly appointed ,king of the platformers." Sounds self-appointed to me! Nintendo had ~90% of the 8-bit market and the megadrive sales were so so at its launch... what changed then? In a word: 'Sonic' Sega would just belong in the realms of interesting side products like the neo geo or jaguar if it wasn't for sonic. Mario was good but ultimately childish, repetitive and not very pretty, fast or particularly great music. | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch... Are you high? Sega does what nintendon't lol the facts are plain..nintendo has been the gaming influence for the home generation..sega was essentially just porting arcade games over. Even their best rpg's werent that great.. As I said above, you need to play Panzer Dragoon Saga before you can make that statement I will check that out lol. I think you should play some mario..make sure you complete them properly though...way more advanced than sonic...way more. Mario is alright but sonic has better graphics and sound. Donkey Kong is a stronger competitor really. Shining Force is also awesome... I think this is more about style over gameplay.. mario is a pixel perfect jumper, controls are so finely tuned.. its like saying tombraider has better control over mario64..they are worlds apart, with the latter being ultimately superior. Are you sure you've played sonic 2? Mario was good on the NES but on 16 bits it was surpassed by sonic and Donkey Kong. In the 3D realm it made a come back though and I'd rate Mario64 over the 3D sonic games. I cant believe you even mentioned the 3d sonic games..." One of the sonic adventures has good reviews but it's not my cup of tea | |||
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"meant to add, snes supercastlevania IV..first few levels were shit..after that a masterpeice, and the snes soundchip was amazing(especially in that game!)...compared to the shittiness of the megadrives Other than the shitty childish music SNES games have, enter into evidence Mario whereas Sonic the hedgehog had music so awesome even Michael Jackson got him a piece sorry but everyone knows mario outclassed sonic...even from the nes days ffs... sonic was the 'cool' answer to mario..the games lacked any depth,technical finess(apart from the speed), smb 4 and its 96 worlds and just hundreds of stuff you could do... sonic...er..jump...spin...watch... Are you high? Sega does what nintendon't lol the facts are plain..nintendo has been the gaming influence for the home generation..sega was essentially just porting arcade games over. Even their best rpg's werent that great.. As I said above, you need to play Panzer Dragoon Saga before you can make that statement I will check that out lol. I think you should play some mario..make sure you complete them properly though...way more advanced than sonic...way more. Mario is alright but sonic has better graphics and sound. Donkey Kong is a stronger competitor really. Shining Force is also awesome... I think this is more about style over gameplay.. mario is a pixel perfect jumper, controls are so finely tuned.. its like saying tombraider has better control over mario64..they are worlds apart, with the latter being ultimately superior. Are you sure you've played sonic 2? Mario was good on the NES but on 16 bits it was surpassed by sonic and Donkey Kong. In the 3D realm it made a come back though and I'd rate Mario64 over the 3D sonic games. super mario world on the snes,smb4...is heralded as the greatest 16bit platformer ever..and I bloody know why...its a brilliant game.It'll always blow any of the sonics out the water, and donkkeykong(which i prefer over sonic anyway), but as gameplay depth goes..you have to be inside the mario game to see how much more it offers..as..the rightly appointed ,king of the platformers. Sounds self-appointed to me! Nintendo had ~90% of the 8-bit market and the megadrive sales were so so at its launch... what changed then? In a word: 'Sonic' Sega would just belong in the realms of interesting side products like the neo geo or jaguar if it wasn't for sonic. Mario was good but ultimately childish, repetitive and not very pretty, fast or particularly great music. " I found the sonics nothing compared to mario I'm afraid...childish was often used to describe anything nintendo made.It was just ignorance that got worse..ignoring the fact there was deeper gameplay.I really dont see how sonic was less repetitive, because there is much more different styles of play within mario..plus its exploration aspect sets it apart. anyway...platform purists choose mario over sonic..its been the case for many years. | |||
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 Everything is in storage besides Xbox One and PS4.
Also had Megadrive, SNES, Game Gear, DS, Gamecube, Wii, and PS Vita.
I do go out.... honestly lol.
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"Surely I can't be the only one who finds it rather amusing that two adults on a swingers site forum are arguing about who's the coolest out of mario and sonic. "lol.. To me its like people arguing about the better of music bands..I have no interest in any music..growing up all I cared about was films and games.. the rivalry between sega and nintendo was always a passionate one.. and remember it has been for a long time that gaming has been a billion dollar industry- and now even greater, with a wider fanbase of ages,sexes all playing games. | |||
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"God where do I start? Have a Techtronics Pong Console, still have my Atari 2600 boxed with 28 games, Spectrum 128k with 178 boxed games, PS1, PS3, PS4, Xbox360, XboxOne Everything is in storage besides Xbox One and PS4.
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"Surely I can't be the only one who finds it rather amusing that two adults on a swingers site forum are arguing about who's the coolest out of mario and sonic. "I know what you mean, there's no question that it's sonic right... | |||
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"Surely I can't be the only one who finds it rather amusing that two adults on a swingers site forum are arguing about who's the coolest out of mario and sonic.
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"I had SNES, Gameboy Colour, GBA, GameCube, NDS, Xbox 360. And in 2008 I saw the light and built a PC. I will never go back. " PC's were a pain in the ass until steam came along. Gotta love the RTS games though, age of empires 2 is awesome. | |||
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"I had SNES, Gameboy Colour, GBA, GameCube, NDS, Xbox 360. And in 2008 I saw the light and built a PC. I will never go back. PC's were a pain in the ass until steam came along. Gotta love the RTS games though, age of empires 2 is awesome. " Yeah they were. It's probably why I changed when I did to be honest. But now with Steam, GOG and Humblebundle, it's the best time to be a PC gamer | |||
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Keeping with the Wii/ Wii u for the family gaming - there are a lot of underrated games - Go Splattooning for a bit of multiplayer mayhem  | |||
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First pc was a Commodore 64 with Harrier attack!!! Green screen and all.
Then an Amstrad 464+
Still have my first console and actually sat down for a retro session of Pac Man and pong last week .... The epicness of the Atari !!!!
Have had most consoles through the years except for nintendos!! (Was a Sega kid) so my first Nintendo console was the Wii which is amazing !!
Panzer Dragoon, Super Bomberman, Sonic .... Ahhhhh happy times !!! Grand Turismo on the ps1 !!! Lost hours of life there !!! Sensible Soccer !!
Current RTS fav is either Anno or Starcraft
Current FPS fav is CS:GO
Current Sim fav is Farming Sim 2015
Current RPG fav is Skyrim or The Witcher
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"So how many of u play these.. Whats your fave console/game.... Fave console my self was megadrive as i grew up with it." Although I do own an xbox, I prefer the PC. The game I've been playing for the longest amount of time is World of Warcraft. But looking forward to Overwatch coming out next month, cant decide weather to get the xbox or pc version. | |||
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"Don't know how you can say sonic is better than Mario. Its format has barely changed since the first one and the poor reviews most of them receive just show how limited the format is. Basically running from one end to another. The music is a subjective thing. The mega drive may have been faster but the she's was more powerful and has a vastly superior sound chip. Mario has mainly evolved with the times and in some ways innovated the genre. Sega fucked themselves up by producing too many consoles in such a short space of time. Megadrive, mega cd, 32x, Saturn and dreamcast (btw dream cast wasn't hard to program for, it was windows based so actually a benefit at the time, just ridiculously easy to pirate games) " The first bit of that was silly, the second bit I agree with. Sega came out of nowhere in the 16-bit market, much like Sony did in the 32-bit one. Their early marketing basically involved putting 2 TV's next to each other with one playing mario and the other playing sonic. Overwhelmingly, people preferred the speed, sound and better graphics of sonic compared to watching a little fat man slowly waddle from one side of the screen to the other | |||
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"Let's be fair...... Charizard would fuck sonic and Mario right up. I started collecting old consoles, they're fun and it's nice to have a blast from the past. Snes was my favourite . But let's be honest they're a bit shit really." Hold your treasonous tongue! I'd take megadrive or a SNES over an Xbox anyday. Modern games are dumbed down, prioritise graphics over gameplay and you can't play online without some 12-year old nerd killing you because they play the game constantly while you work | |||
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I bet your online gaming turns into rage sessions hehe
But I agree ... Retro beats Xbox any day !!! | |||
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"Jet Set Willy anyone? nahhh dizzy lol" Hmm. Yeah. Great £2.99 games. What about Chaos? Or Laser Squad? | |||
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"Oh pwned by a 12 year old
I bet your online gaming turns into rage sessions hehe
But I agree ... Retro beats Xbox any day !!!"I just don't get games these days. I much prefer a computer opponent where you figure out how to beat them. Modern games just seem to be a battle of who has the most spare time to practice... | |||
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"Oh pwned by a 12 year old
I bet your online gaming turns into rage sessions hehe
But I agree ... Retro beats Xbox any day !!!
I just don't get games these days. I much prefer a computer opponent where you figure out how to beat them. Modern games just seem to be a battle of who has the most spare time to practice... "Very true !!! A good single player with a solid story is hard to find nowadays though. That being said I'd still never let the 12 year old win | |||
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"Oh pwned by a 12 year old
I bet your online gaming turns into rage sessions hehe
But I agree ... Retro beats Xbox any day !!!
I just don't get games these days. I much prefer a computer opponent where you figure out how to beat them. Modern games just seem to be a battle of who has the most spare time to practice...
Very true !!! A good single player with a solid story is hard to find nowadays though. That being said I'd still never let the 12 year old win "Thoroughly recommend Fallout 4 if you want a single player game with a rich story and plenty of action. | |||
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"Oh pwned by a 12 year old
I bet your online gaming turns into rage sessions hehe
But I agree ... Retro beats Xbox any day !!!
I just don't get games these days. I much prefer a computer opponent where you figure out how to beat them. Modern games just seem to be a battle of who has the most spare time to practice...
Very true !!! A good single player with a solid story is hard to find nowadays though. That being said I'd still never let the 12 year old win
Thoroughly recommend Fallout 4 if you want a single player game with a rich story and plenty of action."Fallout 4 is pretty shallow and add much as I hate to say it, a disappointing title. Go with the Witcher 3 (best game of the last 15 years IMO), Undertale, MSGV or The Last Of Us. Ori and the Blind Forest is a great single player platformer too. There are loads of great stories that never seem to grace the general population of gamers. | |||
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"Don't know how you can say sonic is better than Mario. Its format has barely changed since the first one and the poor reviews most of them receive just show how limited the format is. Basically running from one end to another. The music is a subjective thing. The mega drive may have been faster but the she's was more powerful and has a vastly superior sound chip. Mario has mainly evolved with the times and in some ways innovated the genre. Sega fucked themselves up by producing too many consoles in such a short space of time. Megadrive, mega cd, 32x, Saturn and dreamcast (btw dream cast wasn't hard to program for, it was windows based so actually a benefit at the time, just ridiculously easy to pirate games) The first bit of that was silly, the second bit I agree with. Sega came out of nowhere in the 16-bit market, much like Sony did in the 32-bit one. Their early marketing basically involved putting 2 TV's next to each other with one playing mario and the other playing sonic. Overwhelmingly, people preferred the speed, sound and better graphics of sonic compared to watching a little fat man slowly waddle from one side of the screen to the other " Super Mario World sold approximately 20 million units, Sonic The Hedgehog sold 15 million. Just saying. Lol | |||
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"Don't know how you can say sonic is better than Mario. Its format has barely changed since the first one and the poor reviews most of them receive just show how limited the format is. Basically running from one end to another. The music is a subjective thing. The mega drive may have been faster but the she's was more powerful and has a vastly superior sound chip. Mario has mainly evolved with the times and in some ways innovated the genre. Sega fucked themselves up by producing too many consoles in such a short space of time. Megadrive, mega cd, 32x, Saturn and dreamcast (btw dream cast wasn't hard to program for, it was windows based so actually a benefit at the time, just ridiculously easy to pirate games) The first bit of that was silly, the second bit I agree with. Sega came out of nowhere in the 16-bit market, much like Sony did in the 32-bit one. Their early marketing basically involved putting 2 TV's next to each other with one playing mario and the other playing sonic. Overwhelmingly, people preferred the speed, sound and better graphics of sonic compared to watching a little fat man slowly waddle from one side of the screen to the other Super Mario World sold approximately 20 million units, Sonic The Hedgehog sold 15 million. Just saying. Lol" Yes we've established that nintendo was more of a commercial success than sega, a lot of that is due to how useless sega's management was. Sony f-ed both of them up in the 32-bit era but not many of the iconic games on this thread came from them - hence the difference between commercial and artistic quality | |||
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"Don't know how you can say sonic is better than Mario. Its format has barely changed since the first one and the poor reviews most of them receive just show how limited the format is. Basically running from one end to another. The music is a subjective thing. The mega drive may have been faster but the she's was more powerful and has a vastly superior sound chip. Mario has mainly evolved with the times and in some ways innovated the genre. Sega fucked themselves up by producing too many consoles in such a short space of time. Megadrive, mega cd, 32x, Saturn and dreamcast (btw dream cast wasn't hard to program for, it was windows based so actually a benefit at the time, just ridiculously easy to pirate games) The first bit of that was silly, the second bit I agree with. Sega came out of nowhere in the 16-bit market, much like Sony did in the 32-bit one. Their early marketing basically involved putting 2 TV's next to each other with one playing mario and the other playing sonic. Overwhelmingly, people preferred the speed, sound and better graphics of sonic compared to watching a little fat man slowly waddle from one side of the screen to the other Super Mario World sold approximately 20 million units, Sonic The Hedgehog sold 15 million. Just saying. Lol Yes we've established that nintendo was more of a commercial success than sega, a lot of that is due to how useless sega's management was. Sony f-ed both of them up in the 32-bit era but not many of the iconic games on this thread came from them - hence the difference between commercial and artistic quality" but you said "overwhelmingly" - which suggest that Sonic sold more and its not true. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what Nintendo do with the NX which is apparently meant to come out this year. | |||
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"Don't know how you can say sonic is better than Mario. Its format has barely changed since the first one and the poor reviews most of them receive just show how limited the format is. Basically running from one end to another. The music is a subjective thing. The mega drive may have been faster but the she's was more powerful and has a vastly superior sound chip. Mario has mainly evolved with the times and in some ways innovated the genre. Sega fucked themselves up by producing too many consoles in such a short space of time. Megadrive, mega cd, 32x, Saturn and dreamcast (btw dream cast wasn't hard to program for, it was windows based so actually a benefit at the time, just ridiculously easy to pirate games) The first bit of that was silly, the second bit I agree with. Sega came out of nowhere in the 16-bit market, much like Sony did in the 32-bit one. Their early marketing basically involved putting 2 TV's next to each other with one playing mario and the other playing sonic. Overwhelmingly, people preferred the speed, sound and better graphics of sonic compared to watching a little fat man slowly waddle from one side of the screen to the other Super Mario World sold approximately 20 million units, Sonic The Hedgehog sold 15 million. Just saying. Lol Yes we've established that nintendo was more of a commercial success than sega, a lot of that is due to how useless sega's management was. Sony f-ed both of them up in the 32-bit era but not many of the iconic games on this thread came from them - hence the difference between commercial and artistic quality but you said "overwhelmingly" - which suggest that Sonic sold more and its not true. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what Nintendo do with the NX which is apparently meant to come out this year. " My comment stands, Pepsi was preferred in the head to head 'Pepsi - challenge' over . Coke still sold more. The two aren't directly correlated. Total sales have more to do with distribution and the fact more people owned a SNES anyway. But put the two side by side and as the average gamer which one they'd rather play and it was sonic by a landslide. Some of that translates to them going out and buying a megadrive, some doesn't... | |||
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"Oh pwned by a 12 year old
I bet your online gaming turns into rage sessions hehe
But I agree ... Retro beats Xbox any day !!!
I just don't get games these days. I much prefer a computer opponent where you figure out how to beat them. Modern games just seem to be a battle of who has the most spare time to practice...
Very true !!! A good single player with a solid story is hard to find nowadays though. That being said I'd still never let the 12 year old win
Thoroughly recommend Fallout 4 if you want a single player game with a rich story and plenty of action.
Fallout 4 is pretty shallow and add much as I hate to say it, a disappointing title. Go with the Witcher 3 (best game of the last 15 years IMO), Undertale, MSGV or The Last Of Us. Ori and the Blind Forest is a great single player platformer too. There are loads of great stories that never seem to grace the general population of gamers. "If people want a good single player experience you can't go far wrong with the Batman Arkham games. Fave RPG game was also Star Wars Knights of the old Republic on the first Xbox which was a great single player game. | |||
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"Don't know how you can say sonic is better than Mario. Its format has barely changed since the first one and the poor reviews most of them receive just show how limited the format is. Basically running from one end to another. The music is a subjective thing. The mega drive may have been faster but the she's was more powerful and has a vastly superior sound chip. Mario has mainly evolved with the times and in some ways innovated the genre. Sega fucked themselves up by producing too many consoles in such a short space of time. Megadrive, mega cd, 32x, Saturn and dreamcast (btw dream cast wasn't hard to program for, it was windows based so actually a benefit at the time, just ridiculously easy to pirate games) The first bit of that was silly, the second bit I agree with. Sega came out of nowhere in the 16-bit market, much like Sony did in the 32-bit one. Their early marketing basically involved putting 2 TV's next to each other with one playing mario and the other playing sonic. Overwhelmingly, people preferred the speed, sound and better graphics of sonic compared to watching a little fat man slowly waddle from one side of the screen to the other Super Mario World sold approximately 20 million units, Sonic The Hedgehog sold 15 million. Just saying. Lol Yes we've established that nintendo was more of a commercial success than sega, a lot of that is due to how useless sega's management was. Sony f-ed both of them up in the 32-bit era but not many of the iconic games on this thread came from them - hence the difference between commercial and artistic quality but you said "overwhelmingly" - which suggest that Sonic sold more and its not true. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what Nintendo do with the NX which is apparently meant to come out this year. My comment stands, Pepsi was preferred in the head to head 'Pepsi - challenge' over . Coke still sold more. The two aren't directly correlated. Total sales have more to do with distribution and the fact more people owned a SNES anyway. But put the two side by side and as the average gamer which one they'd rather play and it was sonic by a landslide. Some of that translates to them going out and buying a megadrive, some doesn't... " So graphics make a better game? | |||
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"Don't know how you can say sonic is better than Mario. Its format has barely changed since the first one and the poor reviews most of them receive just show how limited the format is. Basically running from one end to another. The music is a subjective thing. The mega drive may have been faster but the she's was more powerful and has a vastly superior sound chip. Mario has mainly evolved with the times and in some ways innovated the genre. Sega fucked themselves up by producing too many consoles in such a short space of time. Megadrive, mega cd, 32x, Saturn and dreamcast (btw dream cast wasn't hard to program for, it was windows based so actually a benefit at the time, just ridiculously easy to pirate games) The first bit of that was silly, the second bit I agree with. Sega came out of nowhere in the 16-bit market, much like Sony did in the 32-bit one. Their early marketing basically involved putting 2 TV's next to each other with one playing mario and the other playing sonic. Overwhelmingly, people preferred the speed, sound and better graphics of sonic compared to watching a little fat man slowly waddle from one side of the screen to the other Super Mario World sold approximately 20 million units, Sonic The Hedgehog sold 15 million. Just saying. Lol Yes we've established that nintendo was more of a commercial success than sega, a lot of that is due to how useless sega's management was. Sony f-ed both of them up in the 32-bit era but not many of the iconic games on this thread came from them - hence the difference between commercial and artistic quality but you said "overwhelmingly" - which suggest that Sonic sold more and its not true. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what Nintendo do with the NX which is apparently meant to come out this year. My comment stands, Pepsi was preferred in the head to head 'Pepsi - challenge' over . Coke still sold more. The two aren't directly correlated. Total sales have more to do with distribution and the fact more people owned a SNES anyway. But put the two side by side and as the average gamer which one they'd rather play and it was sonic by a landslide. Some of that translates to them going out and buying a megadrive, some doesn't... So graphics make a better game? " Why do you assume it was just the graphics people liked? | |||
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"Don't know how you can say sonic is better than Mario. Its format has barely changed since the first one and the poor reviews most of them receive just show how limited the format is. Basically running from one end to another. The music is a subjective thing. The mega drive may have been faster but the she's was more powerful and has a vastly superior sound chip. Mario has mainly evolved with the times and in some ways innovated the genre. Sega fucked themselves up by producing too many consoles in such a short space of time. Megadrive, mega cd, 32x, Saturn and dreamcast (btw dream cast wasn't hard to program for, it was windows based so actually a benefit at the time, just ridiculously easy to pirate games) The first bit of that was silly, the second bit I agree with. Sega came out of nowhere in the 16-bit market, much like Sony did in the 32-bit one. Their early marketing basically involved putting 2 TV's next to each other with one playing mario and the other playing sonic. Overwhelmingly, people preferred the speed, sound and better graphics of sonic compared to watching a little fat man slowly waddle from one side of the screen to the other Super Mario World sold approximately 20 million units, Sonic The Hedgehog sold 15 million. Just saying. Lol Yes we've established that nintendo was more of a commercial success than sega, a lot of that is due to how useless sega's management was. Sony f-ed both of them up in the 32-bit era but not many of the iconic games on this thread came from them - hence the difference between commercial and artistic quality but you said "overwhelmingly" - which suggest that Sonic sold more and its not true. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what Nintendo do with the NX which is apparently meant to come out this year. My comment stands, Pepsi was preferred in the head to head 'Pepsi - challenge' over . Coke still sold more. The two aren't directly correlated. Total sales have more to do with distribution and the fact more people owned a SNES anyway. But put the two side by side and as the average gamer which one they'd rather play and it was sonic by a landslide. Some of that translates to them going out and buying a megadrive, some doesn't... So graphics make a better game? Why do you assume it was just the graphics people liked?" Well you suggested the comparison. You're quite welcome to throw the music in too. Mario has numerous classic tunes, I think most people would be hard pressed to remember many classic sonic tunes. Either way if your theory was right, the sales would reflect that. Sonic has never innovated, the mario games on the whole have progressed. Like I say it subjective which one you prefer but the sales alone have dwarfed that of sonic and the megadrive was hardly a failure | |||
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"Don't know how you can say sonic is better than Mario. Its format has barely changed since the first one and the poor reviews most of them receive just show how limited the format is. Basically running from one end to another. The music is a subjective thing. The mega drive may have been faster but the she's was more powerful and has a vastly superior sound chip. Mario has mainly evolved with the times and in some ways innovated the genre. Sega fucked themselves up by producing too many consoles in such a short space of time. Megadrive, mega cd, 32x, Saturn and dreamcast (btw dream cast wasn't hard to program for, it was windows based so actually a benefit at the time, just ridiculously easy to pirate games) The first bit of that was silly, the second bit I agree with. Sega came out of nowhere in the 16-bit market, much like Sony did in the 32-bit one. Their early marketing basically involved putting 2 TV's next to each other with one playing mario and the other playing sonic. Overwhelmingly, people preferred the speed, sound and better graphics of sonic compared to watching a little fat man slowly waddle from one side of the screen to the other Super Mario World sold approximately 20 million units, Sonic The Hedgehog sold 15 million. Just saying. Lol Yes we've established that nintendo was more of a commercial success than sega, a lot of that is due to how useless sega's management was. Sony f-ed both of them up in the 32-bit era but not many of the iconic games on this thread came from them - hence the difference between commercial and artistic quality but you said "overwhelmingly" - which suggest that Sonic sold more and its not true. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what Nintendo do with the NX which is apparently meant to come out this year. My comment stands, Pepsi was preferred in the head to head 'Pepsi - challenge' over . Coke still sold more. The two aren't directly correlated. Total sales have more to do with distribution and the fact more people owned a SNES anyway. But put the two side by side and as the average gamer which one they'd rather play and it was sonic by a landslide. Some of that translates to them going out and buying a megadrive, some doesn't... So graphics make a better game? Why do you assume it was just the graphics people liked? Well you suggested the comparison. You're quite welcome to throw the music in too. Mario has numerous classic tunes, I think most people would be hard pressed to remember many classic sonic tunes. Either way if your theory was right, the sales would reflect that. Sonic has never innovated, the mario games on the whole have progressed. Like I say it subjective which one you prefer but the sales alone have dwarfed that of sonic and the megadrive was hardly a failure" Can't you distinguish artistic and commercial success? Are you honestly suggesting avatar was a good film just because a lot of people went to see it? (It's not a film, it's just like a really long game from the mega CD) | |||
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"Don't know how you can say sonic is better than Mario. Its format has barely changed since the first one and the poor reviews most of them receive just show how limited the format is. Basically running from one end to another. The music is a subjective thing. The mega drive may have been faster but the she's was more powerful and has a vastly superior sound chip. Mario has mainly evolved with the times and in some ways innovated the genre. Sega fucked themselves up by producing too many consoles in such a short space of time. Megadrive, mega cd, 32x, Saturn and dreamcast (btw dream cast wasn't hard to program for, it was windows based so actually a benefit at the time, just ridiculously easy to pirate games) The first bit of that was silly, the second bit I agree with. Sega came out of nowhere in the 16-bit market, much like Sony did in the 32-bit one. Their early marketing basically involved putting 2 TV's next to each other with one playing mario and the other playing sonic. Overwhelmingly, people preferred the speed, sound and better graphics of sonic compared to watching a little fat man slowly waddle from one side of the screen to the other Super Mario World sold approximately 20 million units, Sonic The Hedgehog sold 15 million. Just saying. Lol Yes we've established that nintendo was more of a commercial success than sega, a lot of that is due to how useless sega's management was. Sony f-ed both of them up in the 32-bit era but not many of the iconic games on this thread came from them - hence the difference between commercial and artistic quality but you said "overwhelmingly" - which suggest that Sonic sold more and its not true. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what Nintendo do with the NX which is apparently meant to come out this year. My comment stands, Pepsi was preferred in the head to head 'Pepsi - challenge' over . Coke still sold more. The two aren't directly correlated. Total sales have more to do with distribution and the fact more people owned a SNES anyway. But put the two side by side and as the average gamer which one they'd rather play and it was sonic by a landslide. Some of that translates to them going out and buying a megadrive, some doesn't... So graphics make a better game? Why do you assume it was just the graphics people liked? Well you suggested the comparison. You're quite welcome to throw the music in too. Mario has numerous classic tunes, I think most people would be hard pressed to remember many classic sonic tunes. Either way if your theory was right, the sales would reflect that. Sonic has never innovated, the mario games on the whole have progressed. Like I say it subjective which one you prefer but the sales alone have dwarfed that of sonic and the megadrive was hardly a failure Can't you distinguish artistic and commercial success? Are you honestly suggesting avatar was a good film just because a lot of people went to see it? (It's not a film, it's just like a really long game from the mega CD) " Nintendo have rarely pushed the power side of consoles and many of the consoles that they released were already using outdated hardware. I personally think the love and the effort they put into making some of their games shows through, despite the restrictions. Mario has evolved and there are classic levels in a lot of them. I don't think sonic ever went anywhere other than a quick 5 minute blast to reach the end of a level. The mario soundtrack is a classic in some parts. Games are fun regardless, however you enjoy them | |||
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"Don't know how you can say sonic is better than Mario. Its format has barely changed since the first one and the poor reviews most of them receive just show how limited the format is. Basically running from one end to another. The music is a subjective thing. The mega drive may have been faster but the she's was more powerful and has a vastly superior sound chip. Mario has mainly evolved with the times and in some ways innovated the genre. Sega fucked themselves up by producing too many consoles in such a short space of time. Megadrive, mega cd, 32x, Saturn and dreamcast (btw dream cast wasn't hard to program for, it was windows based so actually a benefit at the time, just ridiculously easy to pirate games) The first bit of that was silly, the second bit I agree with. Sega came out of nowhere in the 16-bit market, much like Sony did in the 32-bit one. Their early marketing basically involved putting 2 TV's next to each other with one playing mario and the other playing sonic. Overwhelmingly, people preferred the speed, sound and better graphics of sonic compared to watching a little fat man slowly waddle from one side of the screen to the other Super Mario World sold approximately 20 million units, Sonic The Hedgehog sold 15 million. Just saying. Lol Yes we've established that nintendo was more of a commercial success than sega, a lot of that is due to how useless sega's management was. Sony f-ed both of them up in the 32-bit era but not many of the iconic games on this thread came from them - hence the difference between commercial and artistic quality but you said "overwhelmingly" - which suggest that Sonic sold more and its not true. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what Nintendo do with the NX which is apparently meant to come out this year. My comment stands, Pepsi was preferred in the head to head 'Pepsi - challenge' over . Coke still sold more. The two aren't directly correlated. Total sales have more to do with distribution and the fact more people owned a SNES anyway. But put the two side by side and as the average gamer which one they'd rather play and it was sonic by a landslide. Some of that translates to them going out and buying a megadrive, some doesn't... So graphics make a better game? Why do you assume it was just the graphics people liked? Well you suggested the comparison. You're quite welcome to throw the music in too. Mario has numerous classic tunes, I think most people would be hard pressed to remember many classic sonic tunes. Either way if your theory was right, the sales would reflect that. Sonic has never innovated, the mario games on the whole have progressed. Like I say it subjective which one you prefer but the sales alone have dwarfed that of sonic and the megadrive was hardly a failure Can't you distinguish artistic and commercial success? Are you honestly suggesting avatar was a good film just because a lot of people went to see it? (It's not a film, it's just like a really long game from the mega CD) Nintendo have rarely pushed the power side of consoles and many of the consoles that they released were already using outdated hardware. I personally think the love and the effort they put into making some of their games shows through, despite the restrictions. Mario has evolved and there are classic levels in a lot of them. I don't think sonic ever went anywhere other than a quick 5 minute blast to reach the end of a level. The mario soundtrack is a classic in some parts. Games are fun regardless, however you enjoy them "One of the most basic games I've ever played was one of the most addictive..... TETRIS on the Nintendo Gameboy | |||
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"ok..my last foray into the mario vs sonic debate is lol: its slower paced,has more to do,explore,more replay value, as in the latter games(ie the fantastic suppermario world), going back to levels with new powerups etc. much like the vastly underrated metroid series(super metroid being a fave)- slow paced again..but actual game design, and not feeling so much on rails as sonic games... someone mentioned spectrum Chaos..loved that game! I suppose we should all think of the current consoles soon becoming 'retro' lol...soon its going to be augmented reality..I think it'd be amazing walking around a REAL derilict building or a spacecraft set, wearing something googleglass like, with your gun, and your zombies/aliens/soilders will displayed as if they are in that environment.. so in 5-10years time..I'll still say mario fucked sonic up the arse many times over "You understand the occupational hazards of arse fucking an animal that has spikes on its back from behind? Besides, if mario fucked sonic then it was consentual sex anyway because lets face it, sonic could always run away from the little fat man. Face facts, the reason princess keeps getting kidnapped if that the koopa troopers all gang bang her and she loves it... | |||
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"Don't know how you can say sonic is better than Mario. Its format has barely changed since the first one and the poor reviews most of them receive just show how limited the format is. Basically running from one end to another. The music is a subjective thing. The mega drive may have been faster but the she's was more powerful and has a vastly superior sound chip. Mario has mainly evolved with the times and in some ways innovated the genre. Sega fucked themselves up by producing too many consoles in such a short space of time. Megadrive, mega cd, 32x, Saturn and dreamcast (btw dream cast wasn't hard to program for, it was windows based so actually a benefit at the time, just ridiculously easy to pirate games) The first bit of that was silly, the second bit I agree with. Sega came out of nowhere in the 16-bit market, much like Sony did in the 32-bit one. Their early marketing basically involved putting 2 TV's next to each other with one playing mario and the other playing sonic. Overwhelmingly, people preferred the speed, sound and better graphics of sonic compared to watching a little fat man slowly waddle from one side of the screen to the other Super Mario World sold approximately 20 million units, Sonic The Hedgehog sold 15 million. Just saying. Lol Yes we've established that nintendo was more of a commercial success than sega, a lot of that is due to how useless sega's management was. Sony f-ed both of them up in the 32-bit era but not many of the iconic games on this thread came from them - hence the difference between commercial and artistic quality but you said "overwhelmingly" - which suggest that Sonic sold more and its not true. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what Nintendo do with the NX which is apparently meant to come out this year. My comment stands, Pepsi was preferred in the head to head 'Pepsi - challenge' over . Coke still sold more. The two aren't directly correlated. Total sales have more to do with distribution and the fact more people owned a SNES anyway. But put the two side by side and as the average gamer which one they'd rather play and it was sonic by a landslide. Some of that translates to them going out and buying a megadrive, some doesn't... So graphics make a better game? Why do you assume it was just the graphics people liked? Well you suggested the comparison. You're quite welcome to throw the music in too. Mario has numerous classic tunes, I think most people would be hard pressed to remember many classic sonic tunes." In all seriousness, go to you tube and listen to: Sonic 2 - chemical plant Sonic 3 - ice cap zone Sonic 2 - metropolis zone Sonic & knuckles - flying battery zone Then tell me what Mario has that can compete with that? The only remotely listenable bit of mario is avicii's levels remix! | |||
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"Don't know how you can say sonic is better than Mario. Its format has barely changed since the first one and the poor reviews most of them receive just show how limited the format is. Basically running from one end to another. The music is a subjective thing. The mega drive may have been faster but the she's was more powerful and has a vastly superior sound chip. Mario has mainly evolved with the times and in some ways innovated the genre. Sega fucked themselves up by producing too many consoles in such a short space of time. Megadrive, mega cd, 32x, Saturn and dreamcast (btw dream cast wasn't hard to program for, it was windows based so actually a benefit at the time, just ridiculously easy to pirate games) The first bit of that was silly, the second bit I agree with. Sega came out of nowhere in the 16-bit market, much like Sony did in the 32-bit one. Their early marketing basically involved putting 2 TV's next to each other with one playing mario and the other playing sonic. Overwhelmingly, people preferred the speed, sound and better graphics of sonic compared to watching a little fat man slowly waddle from one side of the screen to the other Super Mario World sold approximately 20 million units, Sonic The Hedgehog sold 15 million. Just saying. Lol Yes we've established that nintendo was more of a commercial success than sega, a lot of that is due to how useless sega's management was. Sony f-ed both of them up in the 32-bit era but not many of the iconic games on this thread came from them - hence the difference between commercial and artistic quality but you said "overwhelmingly" - which suggest that Sonic sold more and its not true. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what Nintendo do with the NX which is apparently meant to come out this year. My comment stands, Pepsi was preferred in the head to head 'Pepsi - challenge' over . Coke still sold more. The two aren't directly correlated. Total sales have more to do with distribution and the fact more people owned a SNES anyway. But put the two side by side and as the average gamer which one they'd rather play and it was sonic by a landslide. Some of that translates to them going out and buying a megadrive, some doesn't... So graphics make a better game? Why do you assume it was just the graphics people liked? Well you suggested the comparison. You're quite welcome to throw the music in too. Mario has numerous classic tunes, I think most people would be hard pressed to remember many classic sonic tunes. In all seriousness, go to you tube and listen to: Sonic 2 - chemical plant Sonic 3 - ice cap zone Sonic 2 - metropolis zone Sonic & knuckles - flying battery zone Then tell me what Mario has that can compete with that? The only remotely listenable bit of mario is avicii's levels remix! " music was never my interest, sound quality yes..megadrive could not compete.fact. | |||
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"Don't know how you can say sonic is better than Mario. Its format has barely changed since the first one and the poor reviews most of them receive just show how limited the format is. Basically running from one end to another. The music is a subjective thing. The mega drive may have been faster but the she's was more powerful and has a vastly superior sound chip. Mario has mainly evolved with the times and in some ways innovated the genre. Sega fucked themselves up by producing too many consoles in such a short space of time. Megadrive, mega cd, 32x, Saturn and dreamcast (btw dream cast wasn't hard to program for, it was windows based so actually a benefit at the time, just ridiculously easy to pirate games) The first bit of that was silly, the second bit I agree with. Sega came out of nowhere in the 16-bit market, much like Sony did in the 32-bit one. Their early marketing basically involved putting 2 TV's next to each other with one playing mario and the other playing sonic. Overwhelmingly, people preferred the speed, sound and better graphics of sonic compared to watching a little fat man slowly waddle from one side of the screen to the other Super Mario World sold approximately 20 million units, Sonic The Hedgehog sold 15 million. Just saying. Lol Yes we've established that nintendo was more of a commercial success than sega, a lot of that is due to how useless sega's management was. Sony f-ed both of them up in the 32-bit era but not many of the iconic games on this thread came from them - hence the difference between commercial and artistic quality but you said "overwhelmingly" - which suggest that Sonic sold more and its not true. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what Nintendo do with the NX which is apparently meant to come out this year. My comment stands, Pepsi was preferred in the head to head 'Pepsi - challenge' over . Coke still sold more. The two aren't directly correlated. Total sales have more to do with distribution and the fact more people owned a SNES anyway. But put the two side by side and as the average gamer which one they'd rather play and it was sonic by a landslide. Some of that translates to them going out and buying a megadrive, some doesn't... So graphics make a better game? Why do you assume it was just the graphics people liked? Well you suggested the comparison. You're quite welcome to throw the music in too. Mario has numerous classic tunes, I think most people would be hard pressed to remember many classic sonic tunes. In all seriousness, go to you tube and listen to: Sonic 2 - chemical plant Sonic 3 - ice cap zone Sonic 2 - metropolis zone Sonic & knuckles - flying battery zone Then tell me what Mario has that can compete with that? The only remotely listenable bit of mario is avicii's levels remix! music was never my interest, sound quality yes..megadrive could not compete.fact. "I did a test at work on this. I asked them to sing some mario tunes and most came up with something. I then asked them to sing some sonic tunes. Very few knew any and from what they did sing was the green hills zone from the first game and even then they had to think about it. Like I say though. Games are a great bit of escapism, whatever you enjoy. It'd be a terribly boring world if it was different | |||
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"Don't know how you can say sonic is better than Mario. Its format has barely changed since the first one and the poor reviews most of them receive just show how limited the format is. Basically running from one end to another. The music is a subjective thing. The mega drive may have been faster but the she's was more powerful and has a vastly superior sound chip. Mario has mainly evolved with the times and in some ways innovated the genre. Sega fucked themselves up by producing too many consoles in such a short space of time. Megadrive, mega cd, 32x, Saturn and dreamcast (btw dream cast wasn't hard to program for, it was windows based so actually a benefit at the time, just ridiculously easy to pirate games) The first bit of that was silly, the second bit I agree with. Sega came out of nowhere in the 16-bit market, much like Sony did in the 32-bit one. Their early marketing basically involved putting 2 TV's next to each other with one playing mario and the other playing sonic. Overwhelmingly, people preferred the speed, sound and better graphics of sonic compared to watching a little fat man slowly waddle from one side of the screen to the other Super Mario World sold approximately 20 million units, Sonic The Hedgehog sold 15 million. Just saying. Lol Yes we've established that nintendo was more of a commercial success than sega, a lot of that is due to how useless sega's management was. Sony f-ed both of them up in the 32-bit era but not many of the iconic games on this thread came from them - hence the difference between commercial and artistic quality but you said "overwhelmingly" - which suggest that Sonic sold more and its not true. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what Nintendo do with the NX which is apparently meant to come out this year. My comment stands, Pepsi was preferred in the head to head 'Pepsi - challenge' over . Coke still sold more. The two aren't directly correlated. Total sales have more to do with distribution and the fact more people owned a SNES anyway. But put the two side by side and as the average gamer which one they'd rather play and it was sonic by a landslide. Some of that translates to them going out and buying a megadrive, some doesn't... So graphics make a better game? Why do you assume it was just the graphics people liked? Well you suggested the comparison. You're quite welcome to throw the music in too. Mario has numerous classic tunes, I think most people would be hard pressed to remember many classic sonic tunes. In all seriousness, go to you tube and listen to: Sonic 2 - chemical plant Sonic 3 - ice cap zone Sonic 2 - metropolis zone Sonic & knuckles - flying battery zone Then tell me what Mario has that can compete with that? The only remotely listenable bit of mario is avicii's levels remix! music was never my interest, sound quality yes..megadrive could not compete.fact.
I did a test at work on this. I asked them to sing some mario tunes and most came up with something. I then asked them to sing some sonic tunes. Very few knew any and from what they did sing was the green hills zone from the first game and even then they had to think about it. Like I say though. Games are a great bit of escapism, whatever you enjoy. It'd be a terribly boring world if it was different "as I say, nusic was never that much an importance to me...but the snes soundchip was pretty special at that time..I mentioned castlevania earlier, great orchestral score..but the first time i went into a cavern in smb world..the stereo sound echoes as u popped along were astounding. | |||
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"Don't know how you can say sonic is better than Mario. Its format has barely changed since the first one and the poor reviews most of them receive just show how limited the format is. Basically running from one end to another. The music is a subjective thing. The mega drive may have been faster but the she's was more powerful and has a vastly superior sound chip. Mario has mainly evolved with the times and in some ways innovated the genre. Sega fucked themselves up by producing too many consoles in such a short space of time. Megadrive, mega cd, 32x, Saturn and dreamcast (btw dream cast wasn't hard to program for, it was windows based so actually a benefit at the time, just ridiculously easy to pirate games) The first bit of that was silly, the second bit I agree with. Sega came out of nowhere in the 16-bit market, much like Sony did in the 32-bit one. Their early marketing basically involved putting 2 TV's next to each other with one playing mario and the other playing sonic. Overwhelmingly, people preferred the speed, sound and better graphics of sonic compared to watching a little fat man slowly waddle from one side of the screen to the other Super Mario World sold approximately 20 million units, Sonic The Hedgehog sold 15 million. Just saying. Lol Yes we've established that nintendo was more of a commercial success than sega, a lot of that is due to how useless sega's management was. Sony f-ed both of them up in the 32-bit era but not many of the iconic games on this thread came from them - hence the difference between commercial and artistic quality but you said "overwhelmingly" - which suggest that Sonic sold more and its not true. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what Nintendo do with the NX which is apparently meant to come out this year. My comment stands, Pepsi was preferred in the head to head 'Pepsi - challenge' over . Coke still sold more. The two aren't directly correlated. Total sales have more to do with distribution and the fact more people owned a SNES anyway. But put the two side by side and as the average gamer which one they'd rather play and it was sonic by a landslide. Some of that translates to them going out and buying a megadrive, some doesn't... So graphics make a better game? Why do you assume it was just the graphics people liked? Well you suggested the comparison. You're quite welcome to throw the music in too. Mario has numerous classic tunes, I think most people would be hard pressed to remember many classic sonic tunes. In all seriousness, go to you tube and listen to: Sonic 2 - chemical plant Sonic 3 - ice cap zone Sonic 2 - metropolis zone Sonic & knuckles - flying battery zone Then tell me what Mario has that can compete with that? The only remotely listenable bit of mario is avicii's levels remix! music was never my interest, sound quality yes..megadrive could not compete.fact. "So basically you'd rather listen to a great quality fart than decent music from a crap player? | |||
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"Don't know how you can say sonic is better than Mario. Its format has barely changed since the first one and the poor reviews most of them receive just show how limited the format is. Basically running from one end to another. The music is a subjective thing. The mega drive may have been faster but the she's was more powerful and has a vastly superior sound chip. Mario has mainly evolved with the times and in some ways innovated the genre. Sega fucked themselves up by producing too many consoles in such a short space of time. Megadrive, mega cd, 32x, Saturn and dreamcast (btw dream cast wasn't hard to program for, it was windows based so actually a benefit at the time, just ridiculously easy to pirate games) The first bit of that was silly, the second bit I agree with. Sega came out of nowhere in the 16-bit market, much like Sony did in the 32-bit one. Their early marketing basically involved putting 2 TV's next to each other with one playing mario and the other playing sonic. Overwhelmingly, people preferred the speed, sound and better graphics of sonic compared to watching a little fat man slowly waddle from one side of the screen to the other Super Mario World sold approximately 20 million units, Sonic The Hedgehog sold 15 million. Just saying. Lol Yes we've established that nintendo was more of a commercial success than sega, a lot of that is due to how useless sega's management was. Sony f-ed both of them up in the 32-bit era but not many of the iconic games on this thread came from them - hence the difference between commercial and artistic quality but you said "overwhelmingly" - which suggest that Sonic sold more and its not true. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what Nintendo do with the NX which is apparently meant to come out this year. My comment stands, Pepsi was preferred in the head to head 'Pepsi - challenge' over . Coke still sold more. The two aren't directly correlated. Total sales have more to do with distribution and the fact more people owned a SNES anyway. But put the two side by side and as the average gamer which one they'd rather play and it was sonic by a landslide. Some of that translates to them going out and buying a megadrive, some doesn't... So graphics make a better game? Why do you assume it was just the graphics people liked? Well you suggested the comparison. You're quite welcome to throw the music in too. Mario has numerous classic tunes, I think most people would be hard pressed to remember many classic sonic tunes. In all seriousness, go to you tube and listen to: Sonic 2 - chemical plant Sonic 3 - ice cap zone Sonic 2 - metropolis zone Sonic & knuckles - flying battery zone Then tell me what Mario has that can compete with that? The only remotely listenable bit of mario is avicii's levels remix! music was never my interest, sound quality yes..megadrive could not compete.fact.
I did a test at work on this. I asked them to sing some mario tunes and most came up with something. I then asked them to sing some sonic tunes. Very few knew any and from what they did sing was the green hills zone from the first game and even then they had to think about it. Like I say though. Games are a great bit of escapism, whatever you enjoy. It'd be a terribly boring world if it was different "Oh please, they are far more important than that. A significant proportion of my childhood happiness was robbed by sega's incompetence over the Saturn. Do you know what it's like when all your friends have resident evil 2 and you don't? DO YOU, REALLY? Sobs... | |||
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"Don't know how you can say sonic is better than Mario. Its format has barely changed since the first one and the poor reviews most of them receive just show how limited the format is. Basically running from one end to another. The music is a subjective thing. The mega drive may have been faster but the she's was more powerful and has a vastly superior sound chip. Mario has mainly evolved with the times and in some ways innovated the genre. Sega fucked themselves up by producing too many consoles in such a short space of time. Megadrive, mega cd, 32x, Saturn and dreamcast (btw dream cast wasn't hard to program for, it was windows based so actually a benefit at the time, just ridiculously easy to pirate games) The first bit of that was silly, the second bit I agree with. Sega came out of nowhere in the 16-bit market, much like Sony did in the 32-bit one. Their early marketing basically involved putting 2 TV's next to each other with one playing mario and the other playing sonic. Overwhelmingly, people preferred the speed, sound and better graphics of sonic compared to watching a little fat man slowly waddle from one side of the screen to the other Super Mario World sold approximately 20 million units, Sonic The Hedgehog sold 15 million. Just saying. Lol Yes we've established that nintendo was more of a commercial success than sega, a lot of that is due to how useless sega's management was. Sony f-ed both of them up in the 32-bit era but not many of the iconic games on this thread came from them - hence the difference between commercial and artistic quality but you said "overwhelmingly" - which suggest that Sonic sold more and its not true. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what Nintendo do with the NX which is apparently meant to come out this year. My comment stands, Pepsi was preferred in the head to head 'Pepsi - challenge' over . Coke still sold more. The two aren't directly correlated. Total sales have more to do with distribution and the fact more people owned a SNES anyway. But put the two side by side and as the average gamer which one they'd rather play and it was sonic by a landslide. Some of that translates to them going out and buying a megadrive, some doesn't... So graphics make a better game? Why do you assume it was just the graphics people liked? Well you suggested the comparison. You're quite welcome to throw the music in too. Mario has numerous classic tunes, I think most people would be hard pressed to remember many classic sonic tunes. In all seriousness, go to you tube and listen to: Sonic 2 - chemical plant Sonic 3 - ice cap zone Sonic 2 - metropolis zone Sonic & knuckles - flying battery zone Then tell me what Mario has that can compete with that? The only remotely listenable bit of mario is avicii's levels remix! music was never my interest, sound quality yes..megadrive could not compete.fact.
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"Don't know how you can say sonic is better than Mario. Its format has barely changed since the first one and the poor reviews most of them receive just show how limited the format is. Basically running from one end to another. The music is a subjective thing. The mega drive may have been faster but the she's was more powerful and has a vastly superior sound chip. Mario has mainly evolved with the times and in some ways innovated the genre. Sega fucked themselves up by producing too many consoles in such a short space of time. Megadrive, mega cd, 32x, Saturn and dreamcast (btw dream cast wasn't hard to program for, it was windows based so actually a benefit at the time, just ridiculously easy to pirate games) The first bit of that was silly, the second bit I agree with. Sega came out of nowhere in the 16-bit market, much like Sony did in the 32-bit one. Their early marketing basically involved putting 2 TV's next to each other with one playing mario and the other playing sonic. Overwhelmingly, people preferred the speed, sound and better graphics of sonic compared to watching a little fat man slowly waddle from one side of the screen to the other Super Mario World sold approximately 20 million units, Sonic The Hedgehog sold 15 million. Just saying. Lol Yes we've established that nintendo was more of a commercial success than sega, a lot of that is due to how useless sega's management was. Sony f-ed both of them up in the 32-bit era but not many of the iconic games on this thread came from them - hence the difference between commercial and artistic quality but you said "overwhelmingly" - which suggest that Sonic sold more and its not true. Either way, it'll be interesting to see what Nintendo do with the NX which is apparently meant to come out this year. My comment stands, Pepsi was preferred in the head to head 'Pepsi - challenge' over . Coke still sold more. The two aren't directly correlated. Total sales have more to do with distribution and the fact more people owned a SNES anyway. But put the two side by side and as the average gamer which one they'd rather play and it was sonic by a landslide. Some of that translates to them going out and buying a megadrive, some doesn't... So graphics make a better game? Why do you assume it was just the graphics people liked? Well you suggested the comparison. You're quite welcome to throw the music in too. Mario has numerous classic tunes, I think most people would be hard pressed to remember many classic sonic tunes. In all seriousness, go to you tube and listen to: Sonic 2 - chemical plant Sonic 3 - ice cap zone Sonic 2 - metropolis zone Sonic & knuckles - flying battery zone Then tell me what Mario has that can compete with that? The only remotely listenable bit of mario is avicii's levels remix! music was never my interest, sound quality yes..megadrive could not compete.fact.
So basically you'd rather listen to a great quality fart than decent music from a crap player?
I'd choose gameplay and depth...and thats were sonic failed. I liked alex kidd games over sonic, so I'm not just sega bashing."I think you just have a fetish for plumbers to be honest. Let's put sonic to one side. Donkey Kong Country 1, 2 & 3 had better graphics, better soundtrack and all the depth and gameplay that mario ever had. So I'm not just nintendo bashing... | |||
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"So how many of u play these.. Whats your fave console/game.... Fave console my self was megadrive as i grew up with it. Had just about every games console going since the 1980's. Love video games, fave console of all time I think has to be the SNES, Street fighter 2 and Mario Kart on it was ace. I'm on Xbox 360 now, thinking of upgrading to xbox one soon. " Get one I have Xbox one and PlayStation 4 love them both .. But Xbox is awesome | |||
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"Double dragon Streets of rage yuyyeeaaahhhh" Shinobi on the megadrive | |||
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"Double dragon Streets of rage yuyyeeaaahhhh Shinobi on the megadrive " Omg !!! Flashback !! How did I forget that piece of brilliance | |||
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"Double dragon Streets of rage yuyyeeaaahhhh Shinobi on the megadrive Omg !!! Flashback !! How did I forget that piece of brilliance "Twas / is fooking hard too, not like these glorified films that kids play these days | |||
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Twas / is fooking hard too, not like these glorified films that kids play these days"Flashback was good. None of this hand holding fames do these days. Did you play Another World? Same kinda game. | |||
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"anyone played The Evil Within, thinking about getting it I've got it on 360. It's not great. It suffers from bad controls and game design." 360 here too, might give it a miss, was just looking for a good horror game | |||
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"anyone played The Evil Within, thinking about getting it I've got it on 360. It's not great. It suffers from bad controls and game design. 360 here too, might give it a miss, was just looking for a good horror game " I really liked alien isolation. With headphones on too. Scared the shit outta me | |||
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"anyone played The Evil Within, thinking about getting it I've got it on 360. It's not great. It suffers from bad controls and game design. 360 here too, might give it a miss, was just looking for a good horror game I really liked alien isolation. With headphones on too. Scared the shit outta me" might give that a try, I love The Condemned games if you've every played them | |||
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"anyone played The Evil Within, thinking about getting it I've got it on 360. It's not great. It suffers from bad controls and game design. 360 here too, might give it a miss, was just looking for a good horror game I really liked alien isolation. With headphones on too. Scared the shit outta me might give that a try, I love The Condemned games if you've every played them" It's a slow game as you're hiding from the Xenomorph quite a bit. Very tense at some moments. I played the first one all way through. Only played a demo of 2. | |||
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"anyone played The Evil Within, thinking about getting it I've got it on 360. It's not great. It suffers from bad controls and game design. 360 here too, might give it a miss, was just looking for a good horror game I really liked alien isolation. With headphones on too. Scared the shit outta me might give that a try, I love The Condemned games if you've every played them It's a slow game as you're hiding from the Xenomorph quite a bit. Very tense at some moments. I played the first one all way through. Only played a demo of 2." the first is the best, the 2nd lost its way story wise and wasn't as creep | |||
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target renegade spectrum
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and head over heels(and the isometric batman)"YES! Head over Heels was bloody brilliant. Similar graphics(monochrome, 3rd person, quarter side on view), but Great Escape was good too. Just could never work out how to avoid the dogs when the alarm went off. | |||
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"Double dragon on the Sega Master system.
target renegade spectrum
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and head over heels(and the isometric batman)
YES!
Head over Heels was bloody brilliant.
Similar graphics(monochrome, 3rd person, quarter side on view), but Great Escape was good too. Just could never work out how to avoid the dogs when the alarm went off."I'm sure theres a head over heels remake, by retrospec | |||
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