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"I quite literally couldn't care less what other people's kinks are that I'm not into. If I read about something I'm not keen on, I may wrinkle my nose and think to myself "oh no, not for me" but I wouldn't comment and condem them for having a fetish that I don't happen to share or understand. If they aren't breaking the law and all are consenting, it really is none of my business. Nor is it anyone else's. Sassy" If I read something I am not keen on I think, hmmm, maybe there is something in it, I may try it .... why not, you only live once? Does that make me awful | |||
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"I quite literally couldn't care less what other people's kinks are that I'm not into. If I read about something I'm not keen on, I may wrinkle my nose and think to myself "oh no, not for me" but I wouldn't comment and condem them for having a fetish that I don't happen to share or understand. If they aren't breaking the law and all are consenting, it really is none of my business. Nor is it anyone else's. Sassy If I read something I am not keen on I think, hmmm, maybe there is something in it, I may try it .... why not, you only live once? Does that make me awful " Not at all! There were many things that I used to think we weird, gross, wrong etc that I know very much enjoy! You never know what you may discover reading about other peoples kinks too | |||
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"It always amazes me just how judgemental swingers can be considering the lifestyle. " Sadly it doesn't amaze me any more. It did for a long time but I joined a different swinging community at a different time and was never like that. I will always be happy that I popped into it at absolutely the right time. | |||
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"Swingers for all their notoriety and attitude are a strait laced vanilla bunch on the whole. Once you get past a possible bit of exhibitionism, oral and perhaps anal, the shutters start going up. Many swingers attitudes reflect society as a whole even though they sit under "we are swingers aren't we liberated" umbrella " I agree. Promiscuous, possibly but open-minded, not usually. | |||
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"I think it could be related to projecting guilt and shame onto others?" I certainly agree with this. | |||
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"Swingers for all their notoriety and attitude are a strait laced vanilla bunch on the whole. Once you get past a possible bit of exhibitionism, oral and perhaps anal, the shutters start going up. Many swingers attitudes reflect society as a whole even though they sit under "we are swingers aren't we liberated" umbrella I agree. Promiscuous, possibly but open-minded, not usually." Yes, I am fascinated by how "conventional" the majority of so called swingers are; And how little imagination they have: I have far more interesting encounters with people who don't label themselves as "swingers". | |||
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"There have been a few threads recently where people have been judgmental or rude about the choices of others. 'My kink is ok but yours isn't' mentality. As long as it's consensual and legal, what others get up to is none of your beeswax. We're on a swingers site where the mainstream judge us as a bunch of deviants. Can we not have a little more acceptance and understanding among ourselves? Thank you. This plea has been brought to you by MiSTARess from the Party Party" Well said. Totally agree. As you say, some people's kinks and fetishes are stranger, or should I say, more unusual than others. Doesn't make them wrong. | |||
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"It always amazes me just how judgemental swingers can be considering the lifestyle. " | |||
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"There have been a few threads recently where people have been judgmental or rude about the choices of others. 'My kink is ok but yours isn't' mentality. As long as it's consensual and legal, what others get up to is none of your beeswax. We're on a swingers site where the mainstream judge us as a bunch of deviants. Can we not have a little more acceptance and understanding among ourselves? Thank you. This plea has been brought to you by MiSTARess from the Party Party" hehe this is a forum in case you hadn't noticed and when you disagree with something you don't hold back ,yes we are adults and yes if its consensual between the people concerned its up to them ,if put up for debate though some options will be less accepted than others we all have different opinions | |||
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"What others on here do is no business of mine. If you post about it in a public forum then surely you know there will be For & Against comments. Within those there will be people that come across judgemental & depending on who they are some will jump on the bandwagon. No one has the right to be mean to anyone when replying but it's inevitable some will." I agree with this , and differences of opinion on a forum thread are fine . That's what makes things interesting . Private messages are a different story though ..... | |||
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"in fact you blocked me for my opinion so theirs an example in question of how judgemental you are " Not saying this is the case here, but I've blocked others, not for their opinion, but how they state their opinion. And for their tedious annoying use of emojis. | |||
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"in fact you blocked me for my opinion so theirs an example in question of how judgemental you are Not saying this is the case here, but I've blocked others, not for their opinion, but how they state their opinion. And for their tedious annoying use of emojis. " hehe but guys blocking me have no effect and many like my humour and emojees, so once again its just an opinion and they are not there to annoy they only annoy those who are easily annoyed ,an opinion is just that in life if you met most of these people you would like them and that all important opinion that is so objectionable would probably never be mentioned ,its so easy to comment on something here and for people to judge you and if certain people object to that opinion others follow in their wake especially if its a woman | |||
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"There have been a few threads recently where people have been judgmental or rude about the choices of others. 'My kink is ok but yours isn't' mentality. As long as it's consensual and legal, what others get up to is none of your beeswax. We're on a swingers site where the mainstream judge us as a bunch of deviants. Can we not have a little more acceptance and understanding among ourselves? Thank you. This plea has been brought to you by MiSTARess from the Party Party hehe this is a forum in case you hadn't noticed and when you disagree with something you don't hold back ,yes we are adults and yes if its consensual between the people concerned its up to them ,if put up for debate though some options will be less accepted than others we all have different opinions " this forum thing is strange as if someone has the gaul to disagree with someone they are called trolls,people have different ideas and thoughts but that is life and human nature,for me i like a little well informed argument especially when my view is better than theirs ps only joking here | |||
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"I don't often post what I do in a public-ish forum. When I do I expect it may be read by people with a different opinion to me who may also make comments about their opinions, experience and thoughts. I expect I've put many people off me with some of the things I say. I think people do judge, have a right to their opinion and should never feel that they can only comment if they agree with the thread. I also feel that some people need to learn some common decency, respect and tolerance for others. " Difference of opinion is one thing, but getting crap from others for your opinions differing is something else. It's the difference between a discussion and an argument.... | |||
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"What others on here do is no business of mine. If you post about it in a public forum then surely you know there will be For & Against comments. Within those there will be people that come across judgemental & depending on who they are some will jump on the bandwagon. No one has the right to be mean to anyone when replying but it's inevitable some will. I agree with this , and differences of opinion on a forum thread are fine . That's what makes things interesting . Private messages are a different story though ..... " Yeah I've had a few of those & then blocked before I can retort! | |||
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"There have been a few threads recently where people have been judgmental or rude about the choices of others. 'My kink is ok but yours isn't' mentality. As long as it's consensual and legal, what others get up to is none of your beeswax. We're on a swingers site where the mainstream judge us as a bunch of deviants. Can we not have a little more acceptance and understanding among ourselves? Thank you. This plea has been brought to you by MiSTARess from the Party Party hehe this is a forum in case you hadn't noticed and when you disagree with something you don't hold back ,yes we are adults and yes if its consensual between the people concerned its up to them ,if put up for debate though some options will be less accepted than others we all have different opinions this forum thing is strange as if someone has the gaul to disagree with someone they are called trolls,people have different ideas and thoughts but that is life and human nature,for me i like a little well informed argument especially when my view is better than theirs ps only joking here " this is the object of a forum to highlight the different ways people think about things ,some post comment without engaging the brain and those type of threads end badly ,in life I'm a gentleman but if I disagree with something I'm not afraid to say it but in a mannerable fashion its all about manners and tolerance ,also some things we write can be ambiguous and acted upon to quickly | |||
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"I don't often post what I do in a public-ish forum. When I do I expect it may be read by people with a different opinion to me who may also make comments about their opinions, experience and thoughts. I expect I've put many people off me with some of the things I say. I think people do judge, have a right to their opinion and should never feel that they can only comment if they agree with the thread. I also feel that some people need to learn some common decency, respect and tolerance for others. Difference of opinion is one thing, but getting crap from others for your opinions differing is something else. It's the difference between a discussion and an argument.... " No, the difference between a discussion and an argument, often, is whether you agree or disagree with someone. If you disagree, you are discussing but if you disagree you are "trying to start an argument". Some people really cannot cope, at all, with anyone disagreeing with them. And if they continue to disagree after it's been explained to them...well, that's absolutely unacceptable! | |||
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"Swingers for all their notoriety and attitude are a strait laced vanilla bunch on the whole. Once you get past a possible bit of exhibitionism, oral and perhaps anal, the shutters start going up. Many swingers attitudes reflect society as a whole even though they sit under "we are swingers aren't we liberated" umbrella " yea totally agree,id say most are very straight laced | |||
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"We all judge to an extent. Thats just human nature. When thoughts are invited fine post an opinion. But theres one or two that grind my gears by posting again and again saying the same thing. Im talking like 25 to 35 posts just arguing with anyone who has a different view point from them. And half the time the post wasnt even asking for ducking opnions... " Here fucking here!!!! | |||
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"Adding insults is not discussion, it is abuse" Since insults are against the rules, report the posts. Some people take anyone disagreeing as an insult though. | |||
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"Swingers for all their notoriety and attitude are a strait laced vanilla bunch on the whole. Once you get past a possible bit of exhibitionism, oral and perhaps anal, the shutters start going up. Many swingers attitudes reflect society as a whole even though they sit under "we are swingers aren't we liberated" umbrella yea totally agree,id say most are very straight laced" | |||
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"There have been a few threads recently where people have been judgmental or rude about the choices of others. 'My kink is ok but yours isn't' mentality. As long as it's consensual and legal, what others get up to is none of your beeswax. We're on a swingers site where the mainstream judge us as a bunch of deviants. Can we not have a little more acceptance and understanding among ourselves? Thank you. This plea has been brought to you by MiSTARess from the Party Party" Nail head on hit. I was astounded at the apparent narrow minds of some on what I thought would be an open minded arena. Of course we meet narrow minded people all the time, why would Fab be any different really? Everyone to their own I say. Don't bother me, I won't bother you. Fixed..... | |||
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"I judge people all the time, so what. " We all do but its not fashionable to admit it | |||
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"I judge people all the time, so what. We all do but its not fashionable to admit it " | |||
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"The thing about it for me is it's not a case of 'what you do', 'it's the way that you do it'. A difference of opinion can be come judgemental when it becomes a personal attack or overly critical at a personal level. The choice of words and how things are said makes a world of difference to me. Making judgements and being judgemental are different in my book." | |||
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"We all judge to an extent. Thats just human nature. When thoughts are invited fine post an opinion. But theres one or two that grind my gears by posting again and again saying the same thing. Im talking like 25 to 35 posts just arguing with anyone who has a different view point from them. And half the time the post wasnt even asking for ducking opnions... " I think it's ironic that the worst culprits contribute to threads like this, oblivious to what they're writing in relation to their posts in other threads. When the biggest culprit makes their posts make them sound like the most open minded, care free, laid back person in the world, and exactly the opposite is true. How dare anyone not accept my opinion as a god like proclamation of what is right. How dare anyone have a different opinion to me. It's right because I said it. We've all seen people like this. It's ignorant. | |||
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"We all judge to an extent. Thats just human nature. When thoughts are invited fine post an opinion. But theres one or two that grind my gears by posting again and again saying the same thing. Im talking like 25 to 35 posts just arguing with anyone who has a different view point from them. And half the time the post wasnt even asking for ducking opnions... I think it's ironic that the worst culprits contribute to threads like this, oblivious to what they're writing in relation to their posts in other threads. When the biggest culprit makes their posts make them sound like the most open minded, care free, laid back person in the world, and exactly the opposite is true. How dare anyone not accept my opinion as a god like proclamation of what is right. How dare anyone have a different opinion to me. It's right because I said it. We've all seen people like this. It's ignorant." Absolutely, the how dare anyone have a different opinion types are very annoying. It's even more annoying when they carry on posting to a discussion and then complain when others respond, and accuse them of arguing! Because obviously they are right and their word should be the final one. | |||
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"We all judge to an extent. Thats just human nature. When thoughts are invited fine post an opinion. But theres one or two that grind my gears by posting again and again saying the same thing. Im talking like 25 to 35 posts just arguing with anyone who has a different view point from them. And half the time the post wasnt even asking for ducking opnions... I think it's ironic that the worst culprits contribute to threads like this, oblivious to what they're writing in relation to their posts in other threads. When the biggest culprit makes their posts make them sound like the most open minded, care free, laid back person in the world, and exactly the opposite is true. How dare anyone not accept my opinion as a god like proclamation of what is right. How dare anyone have a different opinion to me. It's right because I said it. We've all seen people like this. It's ignorant. Absolutely, the how dare anyone have a different opinion types are very annoying. It's even more annoying when they carry on posting to a discussion and then complain when others respond, and accuse them of arguing! Because obviously they are right and their word should be the final one. " There's a lot of that on here.... | |||
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"We all judge to an extent. Thats just human nature. When thoughts are invited fine post an opinion. But theres one or two that grind my gears by posting again and again saying the same thing. Im talking like 25 to 35 posts just arguing with anyone who has a different view point from them. And half the time the post wasnt even asking for ducking opnions... I think it's ironic that the worst culprits contribute to threads like this, oblivious to what they're writing in relation to their posts in other threads. When the biggest culprit makes their posts make them sound like the most open minded, care free, laid back person in the world, and exactly the opposite is true. How dare anyone not accept my opinion as a god like proclamation of what is right. How dare anyone have a different opinion to me. It's right because I said it. We've all seen people like this. It's ignorant." | |||
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"We all judge to an extent. Thats just human nature. When thoughts are invited fine post an opinion. But theres one or two that grind my gears by posting again and again saying the same thing. Im talking like 25 to 35 posts just arguing with anyone who has a different view point from them. And half the time the post wasnt even asking for ducking opnions... I think it's ironic that the worst culprits contribute to threads like this, oblivious to what they're writing in relation to their posts in other threads. When the biggest culprit makes their posts make them sound like the most open minded, care free, laid back person in the world, and exactly the opposite is true. How dare anyone not accept my opinion as a god like proclamation of what is right. How dare anyone have a different opinion to me. It's right because I said it. We've all seen people like this. It's ignorant. Absolutely, the how dare anyone have a different opinion types are very annoying. It's even more annoying when they carry on posting to a discussion and then complain when others respond, and accuse them of arguing! Because obviously they are right and their word should be the final one. There's a lot of that on here...." And some people know that as long as people post within the rules, whether or not anyone else agrees, they are entitled to do so. They realise that if you keep responding to someone, then it's not particularly surprising if they reply back. I see a lot of people moaning about people "arguing" but keeping the discussion going by replying! I've heard 5 years olds cry,"Muuuummmm, she's arguing with me" but adults should be past that stage. | |||
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"It's funny when those accusing others of lack of self-awareness are actually the ones without any ." | |||
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"It's funny when those accusing others of lack of self-awareness are actually the ones without any ." Oh the irony... | |||
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"We all judge to an extent. Thats just human nature. When thoughts are invited fine post an opinion. But theres one or two that grind my gears by posting again and again saying the same thing. Im talking like 25 to 35 posts just arguing with anyone who has a different view point from them. And half the time the post wasnt even asking for ducking opnions... I think it's ironic that the worst culprits contribute to threads like this, oblivious to what they're writing in relation to their posts in other threads. When the biggest culprit makes their posts make them sound like the most open minded, care free, laid back person in the world, and exactly the opposite is true. How dare anyone not accept my opinion as a god like proclamation of what is right. How dare anyone have a different opinion to me. It's right because I said it. We've all seen people like this. It's ignorant. Absolutely, the how dare anyone have a different opinion types are very annoying. It's even more annoying when they carry on posting to a discussion and then complain when others respond, and accuse them of arguing! Because obviously they are right and their word should be the final one. There's a lot of that on here.... And some people know that as long as people post within the rules, whether or not anyone else agrees, they are entitled to do so. They realise that if you keep responding to someone, then it's not particularly surprising if they reply back. I see a lot of people moaning about people "arguing" but keeping the discussion going by replying! I've heard 5 years olds cry,"Muuuummmm, she's arguing with me" but adults should be past that stage." Some people need to understand the difference between discussion with others and dictating to others. | |||
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"It's funny when those accusing others of lack of self-awareness are actually the ones without any . Oh the irony..." Absolutely. | |||
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"We all judge to an extent. Thats just human nature. When thoughts are invited fine post an opinion. But theres one or two that grind my gears by posting again and again saying the same thing. Im talking like 25 to 35 posts just arguing with anyone who has a different view point from them. And half the time the post wasnt even asking for ducking opnions... I think it's ironic that the worst culprits contribute to threads like this, oblivious to what they're writing in relation to their posts in other threads. When the biggest culprit makes their posts make them sound like the most open minded, care free, laid back person in the world, and exactly the opposite is true. How dare anyone not accept my opinion as a god like proclamation of what is right. How dare anyone have a different opinion to me. It's right because I said it. We've all seen people like this. It's ignorant. Absolutely, the how dare anyone have a different opinion types are very annoying. It's even more annoying when they carry on posting to a discussion and then complain when others respond, and accuse them of arguing! Because obviously they are right and their word should be the final one. There's a lot of that on here.... And some people know that as long as people post within the rules, whether or not anyone else agrees, they are entitled to do so. They realise that if you keep responding to someone, then it's not particularly surprising if they reply back. I see a lot of people moaning about people "arguing" but keeping the discussion going by replying! I've heard 5 years olds cry,"Muuuummmm, she's arguing with me" but adults should be past that stage. Some people need to understand the difference between discussion with others and dictating to others." Yes, I completely agree. And some need to realise if they keep a discussion going by quoting people and replying to them, people will respond. | |||
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"There have been a few threads recently where people have been judgmental or rude about the choices of others. 'My kink is ok but yours isn't' mentality. As long as it's consensual and legal, what others get up to is none of your beeswax. We're on a swingers site where the mainstream judge us as a bunch of deviants. Can we not have a little more acceptance and understanding among ourselves? Thank you. This plea has been brought to you by MiSTARess from the Party Party" Perfectly said and on point as usual . | |||
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"It always amazes me just how judgemental swingers can be considering the lifestyle. " I've said that before.... | |||
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"We all judge to an extent. Thats just human nature. When thoughts are invited fine post an opinion. But theres one or two that grind my gears by posting again and again saying the same thing. Im talking like 25 to 35 posts just arguing with anyone who has a different view point from them. And half the time the post wasnt even asking for ducking opnions... I think it's ironic that the worst culprits contribute to threads like this, oblivious to what they're writing in relation to their posts in other threads. When the biggest culprit makes their posts make them sound like the most open minded, care free, laid back person in the world, and exactly the opposite is true. How dare anyone not accept my opinion as a god like proclamation of what is right. How dare anyone have a different opinion to me. It's right because I said it. We've all seen people like this. It's ignorant. Absolutely, the how dare anyone have a different opinion types are very annoying. It's even more annoying when they carry on posting to a discussion and then complain when others respond, and accuse them of arguing! Because obviously they are right and their word should be the final one. There's a lot of that on here.... And some people know that as long as people post within the rules, whether or not anyone else agrees, they are entitled to do so. They realise that if you keep responding to someone, then it's not particularly surprising if they reply back. I see a lot of people moaning about people "arguing" but keeping the discussion going by replying! I've heard 5 years olds cry,"Muuuummmm, she's arguing with me" but adults should be past that stage. Some people need to understand the difference between discussion with others and dictating to others. Yes, I completely agree. And some need to realise if they keep a discussion going by quoting people and replying to them, people will respond." Like you just did? And so did I of course..... Where will it end???????? | |||
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"I openly admit that I am judgemental. I don't accept the viewpoint that as swingers we should be tolerant of any kink. Some things we will find distasteful. I can't understand the Bdsm scene, cannot possibly see what anyone gets out of punishing others or allowing it upon yourself. But there are so many that do understand it and enjoy it. Instead of trying to preach acceptance of all kinks, accept all people will make a judgement on what you say and do and learn to be indifferent to it if it's right for you. You could put up a married men, bareback, bbw thread alongside this one and it would be full of people claiming it was wrong. People are just passionate about different things. And let's face it, if this forum was full of love and agreement and solidarity 24/7 what a boring place it would be. " | |||
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"I openly admit that I am judgemental. I don't accept the viewpoint that as swingers we should be tolerant of any kink. Some things we will find distasteful. I can't understand the Bdsm scene, cannot possibly see what anyone gets out of punishing others or allowing it upon yourself. But there are so many that do understand it and enjoy it. Instead of trying to preach acceptance of all kinks, accept all people will make a judgement on what you say and do and learn to be indifferent to it if it's right for you. You could put up a married men, bareback, bbw thread alongside this one and it would be full of people claiming it was wrong. People are just passionate about different things. And let's face it, if this forum was full of love and agreement and solidarity 24/7 what a boring place it would be. " You may not understand BDSM but I don't recall you being intolerant of it. If asked, I'm sure you've said you don't understand it but I doubt you've felt the need to denounce anyone that enjoys it as a disgusting pervert, or similar. There's a difference between judging and deciding something isn't for you and judging and being insulting to those who enjoy it. I don't expect anyone to be positive about any and all kinks, whether they are swingers or not I think the point being made is that even if something isn't for us, there's no need to insult anyone about it. As swingers, into things which many others would consider disgusting, we should know not to do the same to each other? We don't have to understand or like what anyone else does. If asked, I don't see a problem with saying it's not your thing and you don't understand it. That's different to judging the people that do it and being unpleasant though. | |||
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"When we first joined I confess to seeing man on man as being totally revolting . 49 years of my life had been spent with other people who felt the same way . I guess I was homophobic . After a few months of swinging I no longer felt that way at all , and now I actually find it rather erotic and horny to watch ! Water sports seemed so wrong , now it's hot . Dogging was for dirty skanks , now we love it and we've met some of the loveliest people while out dogging . Old men were lecherous and wrong , now in certain scenarios a welcome addition to the fun . Large women were gross , now they're often as hot as fuck . Skinny women should have gotten a decent meal inside them , now they can have us inside them . And so the list goes on ...... We have found our journey has opened our minds and we are definately no longer judgemental . " Some of my opinions have changed too. I'd been part of the kink world for a long time before joining here, so my opinions might not have been affected to the extent yours have, but this site has definitely given me a different perspective on some people. | |||
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"The only two things we've found people give us grief for in a judgemental way are our no kissing rule and the shape, size and amount of my pubic hair and that's only in the forum. It makes me smile that there's so much else that could be said but those two very small things cause outrage. I don't care one jot or tittle although I will put my two penn'orth in if I feel like it. The problem I feel with accusing others of being judgemental is that in order to make that claim you will have had to be judgemental yourself." can I kiss your muff! | |||
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"The only two things we've found people give us grief for in a judgemental way are our no kissing rule and the shape, size and amount of my pubic hair and that's only in the forum. It makes me smile that there's so much else that could be said but those two very small things cause outrage. I don't care one jot or tittle although I will put my two penn'orth in if I feel like it. The problem I feel with accusing others of being judgemental is that in order to make that claim you will have had to be judgemental yourself.can I kiss your muff! " | |||
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"The only two things we've found people give us grief for in a judgemental way are our no kissing rule and the shape, size and amount of my pubic hair and that's only in the forum. It makes me smile that there's so much else that could be said but those two very small things cause outrage. I don't care one jot or tittle although I will put my two penn'orth in if I feel like it. The problem I feel with accusing others of being judgemental is that in order to make that claim you will have had to be judgemental yourself. can I kiss your muff! " The answer to that surely has to be Yes, furry muff. (see what I did there? ) | |||
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"I openly admit that I am judgemental. I don't accept the viewpoint that as swingers we should be tolerant of any kink. Some things we will find distasteful. I can't understand the Bdsm scene, cannot possibly see what anyone gets out of punishing others or allowing it upon yourself. But there are so many that do understand it and enjoy it. Instead of trying to preach acceptance of all kinks, accept all people will make a judgement on what you say and do and learn to be indifferent to it if it's right for you. You could put up a married men, bareback, bbw thread alongside this one and it would be full of people claiming it was wrong. People are just passionate about different things. And let's face it, if this forum was full of love and agreement and solidarity 24/7 what a boring place it would be. You may not understand BDSM but I don't recall you being intolerant of it. If asked, I'm sure you've said you don't understand it but I doubt you've felt the need to denounce anyone that enjoys it as a disgusting pervert, or similar. There's a difference between judging and deciding something isn't for you and judging and being insulting to those who enjoy it. I don't expect anyone to be positive about any and all kinks, whether they are swingers or not I think the point being made is that even if something isn't for us, there's no need to insult anyone about it. As swingers, into things which many others would consider disgusting, we should know not to do the same to each other? We don't have to understand or like what anyone else does. If asked, I don't see a problem with saying it's not your thing and you don't understand it. That's different to judging the people that do it and being unpleasant though." I agree Dee. Regardless of what is practised, it is wrong to be rude and abuse people because of it. people should always try to be assertive when debating, communicate in a way which doesn't belittle either party. | |||
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"The only two things we've found people give us grief for in a judgemental way are our no kissing rule and the shape, size and amount of my pubic hair and that's only in the forum. It makes me smile that there's so much else that could be said but those two very small things cause outrage. I don't care one jot or tittle although I will put my two penn'orth in if I feel like it. The problem I feel with accusing others of being judgemental is that in order to make that claim you will have had to be judgemental yourself.can I kiss your muff! " Ya filthy swine, how dare you! | |||
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"I openly admit that I am judgemental. I don't accept the viewpoint that as swingers we should be tolerant of any kink. Some things we will find distasteful. I can't understand the Bdsm scene, cannot possibly see what anyone gets out of punishing others or allowing it upon yourself. But there are so many that do understand it and enjoy it. Instead of trying to preach acceptance of all kinks, accept all people will make a judgement on what you say and do and learn to be indifferent to it if it's right for you. You could put up a married men, bareback, bbw thread alongside this one and it would be full of people claiming it was wrong. People are just passionate about different things. And let's face it, if this forum was full of love and agreement and solidarity 24/7 what a boring place it would be. You may not understand BDSM but I don't recall you being intolerant of it. If asked, I'm sure you've said you don't understand it but I doubt you've felt the need to denounce anyone that enjoys it as a disgusting pervert, or similar. There's a difference between judging and deciding something isn't for you and judging and being insulting to those who enjoy it. I don't expect anyone to be positive about any and all kinks, whether they are swingers or not I think the point being made is that even if something isn't for us, there's no need to insult anyone about it. As swingers, into things which many others would consider disgusting, we should know not to do the same to each other? We don't have to understand or like what anyone else does. If asked, I don't see a problem with saying it's not your thing and you don't understand it. That's different to judging the people that do it and being unpleasant though. I agree Dee. Regardless of what is practised, it is wrong to be rude and abuse people because of it. people should always try to be assertive when debating, communicate in a way which doesn't belittle either party. " What if people have a fetish for belittling though? We have to respect their fetish and not belittle them about it, right? I'm confused now. | |||
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"We all judge to an extent. Thats just human nature. When thoughts are invited fine post an opinion. But theres one or two that grind my gears by posting again and again saying the same thing. Im talking like 25 to 35 posts just arguing with anyone who has a different view point from them. And half the time the post wasnt even asking for ducking opnions... I think it's ironic that the worst culprits contribute to threads like this, oblivious to what they're writing in relation to their posts in other threads. When the biggest culprit makes their posts make them sound like the most open minded, care free, laid back person in the world, and exactly the opposite is true. How dare anyone not accept my opinion as a god like proclamation of what is right. How dare anyone have a different opinion to me. It's right because I said it. We've all seen people like this. It's ignorant." I was thinking that myself. I've seen so many single men shot down by the "ladies" on the forums,because of terminology or what they like to do with women. Those same ladies don't come across as women who treat men as equals,unless they fancy them. | |||
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"We all judge to an extent. Thats just human nature. When thoughts are invited fine post an opinion. But theres one or two that grind my gears by posting again and again saying the same thing. Im talking like 25 to 35 posts just arguing with anyone who has a different view point from them. And half the time the post wasnt even asking for ducking opnions... I think it's ironic that the worst culprits contribute to threads like this, oblivious to what they're writing in relation to their posts in other threads. When the biggest culprit makes their posts make them sound like the most open minded, care free, laid back person in the world, and exactly the opposite is true. How dare anyone not accept my opinion as a god like proclamation of what is right. How dare anyone have a different opinion to me. It's right because I said it. We've all seen people like this. It's ignorant. I was thinking that myself. I've seen so many single men shot down by the "ladies" on the forums,because of terminology or what they like to do with women. Those same ladies don't come across as women who treat men as equals,unless they fancy them." I have to agree with you there...it's cringe worthy to watch but over the years I've learnt to keep my mouth shut on certain topics... | |||
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"The only two things we've found people give us grief for in a judgemental way are our no kissing rule and the shape, size and amount of my pubic hair and that's only in the forum. It makes me smile that there's so much else that could be said but those two very small things cause outrage. I don't care one jot or tittle although I will put my two penn'orth in if I feel like it. The problem I feel with accusing others of being judgemental is that in order to make that claim you will have had to be judgemental yourself. can I kiss your muff! The answer to that surely has to be Yes, furry muff. (see what I did there? )" | |||
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"It's not just about people's tastes sexually, I got abuse the other day for being married and meeting too many people!? Oddly the idiot giving the shit apparently only has one verification - from a married lady also!? I don't judge like that and expect the same back - if I see something that's not to my taste I just pass by - if I'm asked for an opinion I'll give an honest one, but it's not cause I think it's right, it's just my opinion..... (kicks soapbox away)." Let it go woman for fuck sake She isn't married either | |||
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"We all judge to an extent. Thats just human nature. When thoughts are invited fine post an opinion. But theres one or two that grind my gears by posting again and again saying the same thing. Im talking like 25 to 35 posts just arguing with anyone who has a different view point from them. And half the time the post wasnt even asking for ducking opnions... I think it's ironic that the worst culprits contribute to threads like this, oblivious to what they're writing in relation to their posts in other threads. When the biggest culprit makes their posts make them sound like the most open minded, care free, laid back person in the world, and exactly the opposite is true. How dare anyone not accept my opinion as a god like proclamation of what is right. How dare anyone have a different opinion to me. It's right because I said it. We've all seen people like this. It's ignorant. I was thinking that myself. I've seen so many single men shot down by the "ladies" on the forums,because of terminology or what they like to do with women. Those same ladies don't come across as women who treat men as equals,unless they fancy them. I have to agree with you there...it's cringe worthy to watch but over the years I've learnt to keep my mouth shut on certain topics..." Maybe call me a White Knightess but I like to let the men know we aren't all like that. The offenders aren't judging as such they are attacking in a passively aggressive way that won't get them a ban. I think it's sad that people can't talk about their kinks,fetishes and fantasies without being abused for it. | |||
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"We all judge to an extent. Thats just human nature. When thoughts are invited fine post an opinion. But theres one or two that grind my gears by posting again and again saying the same thing. Im talking like 25 to 35 posts just arguing with anyone who has a different view point from them. And half the time the post wasnt even asking for ducking opnions... I think it's ironic that the worst culprits contribute to threads like this, oblivious to what they're writing in relation to their posts in other threads. When the biggest culprit makes their posts make them sound like the most open minded, care free, laid back person in the world, and exactly the opposite is true. How dare anyone not accept my opinion as a god like proclamation of what is right. How dare anyone have a different opinion to me. It's right because I said it. We've all seen people like this. It's ignorant. I was thinking that myself. I've seen so many single men shot down by the "ladies" on the forums,because of terminology or what they like to do with women. Those same ladies don't come across as women who treat men as equals,unless they fancy them. I have to agree with you there...it's cringe worthy to watch but over the years I've learnt to keep my mouth shut on certain topics... Maybe call me a White Knightess but I like to let the men know we aren't all like that. The offenders aren't judging as such they are attacking in a passively aggressive way that won't get them a ban. I think it's sad that people can't talk about their kinks,fetishes and fantasies without being abused for it. " Whilst I see what you mean, sometimes the kinks and fantasies are expressed in really unpleasant ways. It's not always the fetish or fantasy that some find objectionable but how it's expressed. Anyone posting, for example, as if they view someone as piece of meat is likely to get backs up. It is possible to post about fetishes and fantasies and still show respect for people. | |||
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"It's not just about people's tastes sexually, I got abuse the other day for being married and meeting too many people!? Oddly the idiot giving the shit apparently only has one verification - from a married lady also!? I don't judge like that and expect the same back - if I see something that's not to my taste I just pass by - if I'm asked for an opinion I'll give an honest one, but it's not cause I think it's right, it's just my opinion..... (kicks soapbox away). Let it go woman for fuck sake She isn't married either " It's you carrying it on here?! I'm simply cobtriributing to the discussion I was told she was married - I wouldn't know as I blocked you for your opinionated crap that you simply didn't need to voice at me - interested to know though what made you launch at me? | |||
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"It's not just about people's tastes sexually, I got abuse the other day for being married and meeting too many people!? Oddly the idiot giving the shit apparently only has one verification - from a married lady also!? I don't judge like that and expect the same back - if I see something that's not to my taste I just pass by - if I'm asked for an opinion I'll give an honest one, but it's not cause I think it's right, it's just my opinion..... (kicks soapbox away). Let it go woman for fuck sake She isn't married either It's you carrying it on here?! I'm simply cobtriributing to the discussion I was told she was married - I wouldn't know as I blocked you for your opinionated crap that you simply didn't need to voice at me - interested to know though what made you launch at me? " I'd just like to point out I'm not married.. perhaps my posts on here made it seem that way but I just thought I'd clear that up | |||
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"We all judge to an extent. Thats just human nature. When thoughts are invited fine post an opinion. But theres one or two that grind my gears by posting again and again saying the same thing. Im talking like 25 to 35 posts just arguing with anyone who has a different view point from them. And half the time the post wasnt even asking for ducking opnions... I think it's ironic that the worst culprits contribute to threads like this, oblivious to what they're writing in relation to their posts in other threads. When the biggest culprit makes their posts make them sound like the most open minded, care free, laid back person in the world, and exactly the opposite is true. How dare anyone not accept my opinion as a god like proclamation of what is right. How dare anyone have a different opinion to me. It's right because I said it. We've all seen people like this. It's ignorant. I was thinking that myself. I've seen so many single men shot down by the "ladies" on the forums,because of terminology or what they like to do with women. Those same ladies don't come across as women who treat men as equals,unless they fancy them. I have to agree with you there...it's cringe worthy to watch but over the years I've learnt to keep my mouth shut on certain topics... Maybe call me a White Knightess but I like to let the men know we aren't all like that. The offenders aren't judging as such they are attacking in a passively aggressive way that won't get them a ban. I think it's sad that people can't talk about their kinks,fetishes and fantasies without being abused for it. Whilst I see what you mean, sometimes the kinks and fantasies are expressed in really unpleasant ways. It's not always the fetish or fantasy that some find objectionable but how it's expressed. Anyone posting, for example, as if they view someone as piece of meat is likely to get backs up. It is possible to post about fetishes and fantasies and still show respect for people." | |||
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"It's not just about people's tastes sexually, I got abuse the other day for being married and meeting too many people!? Oddly the idiot giving the shit apparently only has one verification - from a married lady also!? I don't judge like that and expect the same back - if I see something that's not to my taste I just pass by - if I'm asked for an opinion I'll give an honest one, but it's not cause I think it's right, it's just my opinion..... (kicks soapbox away). Let it go woman for fuck sake She isn't married either It's you carrying it on here?! I'm simply cobtriributing to the discussion I was told she was married - I wouldn't know as I blocked you for your opinionated crap that you simply didn't need to voice at me - interested to know though what made you launch at me? I'd just like to point out I'm not married.. perhaps my posts on here made it seem that way but I just thought I'd clear that up " I have no idea lovely, having looked at your profile it's 'someone' you met who gave me shit for being married in the forum the other day when it us NOTHING to do with him. Several then jumped to my defence citing his verification as being from an attached lady - I wouldn't know in all honesty as I'd already blocked him. My point was simply that it's another form of abuse. I am an adult and I make my choices, it's not down to anyone else. The fact the matter was deleted from the forum and when he carried on the thread closed should have told him he was wrong and not to try and contact me again as he has above. | |||
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"It's not just about people's tastes sexually, I got abuse the other day for being married and meeting too many people!? Oddly the idiot giving the shit apparently only has one verification - from a married lady also!? I don't judge like that and expect the same back - if I see something that's not to my taste I just pass by - if I'm asked for an opinion I'll give an honest one, but it's not cause I think it's right, it's just my opinion..... (kicks soapbox away). Let it go woman for fuck sake She isn't married either It's you carrying it on here?! I'm simply cobtriributing to the discussion I was told she was married - I wouldn't know as I blocked you for your opinionated crap that you simply didn't need to voice at me - interested to know though what made you launch at me? I'd just like to point out I'm not married.. perhaps my posts on here made it seem that way but I just thought I'd clear that up I have no idea lovely, having looked at your profile it's 'someone' you met who gave me shit for being married in the forum the other day when it us NOTHING to do with him. Several then jumped to my defence citing his verification as being from an attached lady - I wouldn't know in all honesty as I'd already blocked him. My point was simply that it's another form of abuse. I am an adult and I make my choices, it's not down to anyone else. The fact the matter was deleted from the forum and when he carried on the thread closed should have told him he was wrong and not to try and contact me again as he has above. " I don't know I was off on a break from fab at the time. Maybe the conversation should be left alone if it caused upset. Which in all fairness, you did mention it first. I wasn't there so I can't comment and I'm not looking to argue with you either. Sometimes things can be taken the wrong way on here I think its best agreeing to disagree and move on life's too short. | |||
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"It's not just about people's tastes sexually, I got abuse the other day for being married and meeting too many people!? Oddly the idiot giving the shit apparently only has one verification - from a married lady also!? I don't judge like that and expect the same back - if I see something that's not to my taste I just pass by - if I'm asked for an opinion I'll give an honest one, but it's not cause I think it's right, it's just my opinion..... (kicks soapbox away). Let it go woman for fuck sake She isn't married either It's you carrying it on here?! I'm simply cobtriributing to the discussion I was told she was married - I wouldn't know as I blocked you for your opinionated crap that you simply didn't need to voice at me - interested to know though what made you launch at me? I'd just like to point out I'm not married.. perhaps my posts on here made it seem that way but I just thought I'd clear that up I have no idea lovely, having looked at your profile it's 'someone' you met who gave me shit for being married in the forum the other day when it us NOTHING to do with him. Several then jumped to my defence citing his verification as being from an attached lady - I wouldn't know in all honesty as I'd already blocked him. My point was simply that it's another form of abuse. I am an adult and I make my choices, it's not down to anyone else. The fact the matter was deleted from the forum and when he carried on the thread closed should have told him he was wrong and not to try and contact me again as he has above. I don't know I was off on a break from fab at the time. Maybe the conversation should be left alone if it caused upset. Which in all fairness, you did mention it first. I wasn't there so I can't comment and I'm not looking to argue with you either. Sometimes things can be taken the wrong way on here I think its best agreeing to disagree and move on life's too short. " I'm also not looking to argue, but cited it as it is current to the topic - I didn't however mention him etc | |||
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