FabSwingers.com forum: what's England coming two???

By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

What's England coming to when some English folk don't even know the diverse history of England yet are quick to criticize the world for changing and attempt to find a scapegoat in immigrants to justify their smallminded racist views

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over a year ago

"What's England coming to when some English folk don't even know the diverse history of England yet are quick to criticize the world for changing and attempt to find a scapegoat in immigrants to justify their smallminded racist views

Just the English? K.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Britain. Not England.

England didn't "achieve" the British Empire by ourselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to be precise, not England. I'm also not English

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to be precise, not England. I'm also not English

Live in stupid auto carrot

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Just the English? K."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think it's racist to not want to change, it's pretty much natural and people are averse to change because it's scary and confusing mainly.

But i did find an article, that i cannot put the link for on here, and it mentioned that whenever christmas is banned the news never reports on who actually banned it.

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Britain. Not England.

England didn't "achieve" the British Empire by ourselves."
duh....I was just carrying on from the previous post to highlight the fact that racism is rife in the UK (England especially) racism is a tool of divide that negatively impacts us all whether directly or indirectly....what goes around comes around....we shouldn't blame others obsessively for the negative aspects of our lives...this is life...just get on with it and make the most of it without moaning over trivialities and perpetuating vile hate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"racism is rife in the UK (England especially)"

Wow. Just wow.

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"I don't think it's racist to not want to change, it's pretty much natural and people are averse to change because it's scary and confusing mainly.

But i did find an article, that i cannot put the link for on here, and it mentioned that whenever christmas is banned the news never reports on who actually banned it.

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it's not racist to not want things to change....it is racist when you blame non white people for changes that are most likely brought about by white people in some form or fashion lol

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By *uessWhosBackAgainMan
over a year ago

London

Why start another one

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Nice tits, OP

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"racism is rife in the UK (England especially)

Wow. Just wow."

Exactly, wow, yes a minority may be I've experienced it myself but it is not rife

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"racism is rife in the UK (England especially)

Wow. Just wow."
do you disagree? You need only look at race hate crime statistics in England/wales and Scotland....and membership numbers of far right Nazi groups such as the edl/Britain first etc to see that it's more prominent in England....6% of the population compared to 2% in Scotland ...pretty much the same scenario in the states where the southern states have a considerably higher rate of racial intolerance than the more liberal northern states

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't think it's racist to not want to change, it's pretty much natural and people are averse to change because it's scary and confusing mainly.

But i did find an article, that i cannot put the link for on here, and it mentioned that whenever christmas is banned the news never reports on who actually banned it.

it's not racist to not want things to change....it is racist when you blame non white people for changes that are most likely brought about by white people in some form or fashion lol"

that's why the news lets people come to their own conclusions and doesn't report things properly.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Britain. Not England.

England didn't "achieve" the British Empire by ourselves.

duh....I was just carrying on from the previous post to highlight the fact that racism is rife in the UK (England especially) racism is a tool of divide that negatively impacts us all whether directly or indirectly....what goes around comes around....we shouldn't blame others obsessively for the negative aspects of our lives...this is life...just get on with it and make the most of it without moaning over trivialities and perpetuating vile hate"

Racism is rife in England especially?

Any you choose to highlight that with an anti-English thread.

Oh the irony.

You may have missed it, but there were English people on the previous thread supporting diversity, decrying racism, intolerance and hate.

Well done for insulting us and pissing us off. That will help your cause no end.

Duh.

A thread allegedly against intolerance full of intolerance, hate, discrimination and bullshit.

Don't hate anyone! Don't discriminate! Unless you're Scottish/Welsh/Irish and are slagging off the English, then it's fine.

I'm out. Argue this lovely bunch of bullshit by yourself.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"racism is rife in the UK (England especially)

Wow. Just wow."

I know we don't often agree but you just about summed that up perfectly.

I despair.

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"Why start another one

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because its something I feel passionate about....debate leads to people learning (in some cases) we shouldn't bury our head in the sand and pretend like there's no problem

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"racism is rife in the UK (England especially)

Wow. Just wow.

Exactly, wow, yes a minority may be I've experienced it myself but it is not rife"

Considering at least half of Scotland is seriously anti-English, including him, he's got a fucking cheek.

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

This is not an anti English thread lol this is an anti,anti England thread
"What's England coming to when some English folk don't even know the diverse history of England yet are quick to criticize the world for changing and attempt to find a scapegoat in immigrants to justify their smallminded racist views

Britain. Not England.

England didn't "achieve" the British Empire by ourselves.

Racism is rife in England especially?

Any you choose to highlight that with an anti-English thread.

Oh the irony.

You may have missed it, but there were English people on the previous thread supporting diversity, decrying racism, intolerance and hate.

Well done for insulting us and pissing us off. That will help your cause no end.

Duh.

A thread allegedly against intolerance full of intolerance, hate, discrimination and bullshit.

Don't hate anyone! Don't discriminate! Unless you're Scottish/Welsh/Irish and are slagging off the English, then it's fine.

I'm out. Argue this lovely bunch of bullshit by yourself."

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"Why start another one

because its something I feel passionate about....debate leads to people learning (in some cases) we shouldn't bury our head in the sand and pretend like there's no problem"

Oh there's a problem on this thread all right.

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Just the English? K.

Which is almost funny given the English people on part one of the thread posting about the history of British colonisation and how we should learn from it, and generally refusing to accept racist, anti-immigrant ignorance."
you might not have realized it but I actually agreed with you so this post is not against you or any of us other English folk...just the handful of folk like the op of the previous post

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to be precise, not England. I'm also not English

Live in stupid auto carrot"

I bet you love as well.

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By *uessWhosBackAgainMan
over a year ago

London

"Why start another one

because its something I feel passionate about....debate leads to people learning (in some cases) we shouldn't bury our head in the sand and pretend like there's no problem"

Not sure if you actually read the whole of the last thread but if you did, you wouldn't of started this nonsense up again because there is clearly no helping some no matter how much you try

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

I don't know the OP but I think he is only using the England reference because its a link back to the first thread .... not being specifically anti English.

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Britain. Not England.

England didn't "achieve" the British Empire by ourselves."
actually the British empire wasn't only established by the Brits but by the hard work,sacrifices,dedication and contribution of individuals from every colonized nation whether through their own choosing or by force

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

I don't know the OP but I think he is only using the England reference because its a link back to the first thread .... not being specifically anti English."

Yeah? Read on...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What empire?????

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"Nice tits, OP

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cheers D.J ...glad you like my moobs

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"What empire?????"

Oh dear.

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

I don't know the OP but I think he is only using the England reference because its a link back to the first thread .... not being specifically anti English."
thank you! I applaud your astuteness as it seems that others have not been as sharp to see the jestful nature of this post

much respect to you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's generalising white people now your the racist it works both ways racism!!

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"What empire?????"
boardwalk empire....absolutely love it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to be precise, not England. I'm also not English

Live in stupid auto carrot

I bet you love as well."

I do love this country, it gave my family a home after coming from one of those colonized British empire countries some people like to forget about in the history of englishness

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"That's generalising white people now your the racist it works both ways racism!!"
white people are not even white so the concept of white supremacy is redundant by default....you know people once believed that the world was flat....do you know people still believe that the world is flat? Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The world will never be rid of racism, fact. It's unfortunate but true.

Personally Im not racist in anyway shape or form.

I hate all people regardless of age race gender or religion

The human race, the most compationate, caring and loving creatures on earth but also the biggest cunting pricks going

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"racism is rife in the UK (England especially)

Wow. Just wow.

Exactly, wow, yes a minority may be I've experienced it myself but it is not rife

Considering at least half of Scotland is seriously anti-English, including him, he's got a fucking cheek. "
your rather presumptuous aintcha....im not Scottish and im not anti English so your argument doesn't hold up there now does it lol

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"The world will never be rid of racism, fact. It's unfortunate but true.

Personally Im not racist in anyway shape or form.

I hate all people regardless of age race gender or religion

The human race, the most compationate, caring and loving creatures on earth but also the biggest cunting pricks going

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I couldn't agree with you anymore my rather enlightened and infinitely wise friend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

to be fair whoever said nearly half of Scotland is anti English would be mistaken in my view. Having lived up their for a while. I never saw any bad blood. Obviously abit off banter back and forth but never any serious anti English comments

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

time for a music break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzRzWxlpMRw

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"time for a music break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzRzWxlpMRw"

I don't care what the music is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"time for a music break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzRzWxlpMRw

I don't care what the music is.

Its DJ led manville. i

his (emo) stuff.

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

" to be fair whoever said nearly half of Scotland is anti English would be mistaken in my view. Having lived up their for a while. I never saw any bad blood. Obviously abit off banter back and forth but never any serious anti English comments "
to be honest I've witnessed more anti Scottish sentiment from English folk here than I've ever experienced on the other hand from Scots being against the English...which is surprising considering the 400 years of the English oppression again the Scots

the Scots are mostly a tolerant and loving people and they're loved all over the world...which is more than can be said for the English,Germans and Americans behaving bad abroad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 26/03/16 02:05:07]

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" to be fair whoever said nearly half of Scotland is anti English would be mistaken in my view. Having lived up their for a while. I never saw any bad blood. Obviously abit off banter back and forth but never any serious anti English comments to be honest I've witnessed more anti Scottish sentiment from English folk here than I've ever experienced on the other hand from Scots being against the English...which is surprising considering the 400 years of the English oppression again the Scots

the Scots are mostly a tolerant and loving people and they're loved all over the world...which is more than can be said for the English,Germans and Americans behaving bad abroad

Yawn.

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

" to be fair whoever said nearly half of Scotland is anti English would be mistaken in my view. Having lived up their for a while. I never saw any bad blood. Obviously abit off banter back and forth but never any serious anti English comments to be honest I've witnessed more anti Scottish sentiment from English folk here than I've ever experienced on the other hand from Scots being against the English...which is surprising considering the 400 years of the English oppression again the Scots

the Scots are mostly a tolerant and loving people and they're loved all over the world...which is more than can be said for the English,Germans and Americans behaving bad abroad

Yawn."
is someone up past their bedtime? Go to sleep then before you have all the rest of us yawning aswell lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

op is this another failed attempt at controversy mentioning immigrants or is my middle earth location disolodging your attempts at trying or maybe attempting i stress to look educated, being from the devil lands

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Best post ive read all day!

Jay

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you're going to rant about this then please, for the love of god, don't use American grammar

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you're going to rant about this then please, for the love of god, don't use American grammar"

get down from your tree dear

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"op is this another failed attempt at controversy mentioning immigrants or is my middle earth location disolodging your attempts at trying or maybe attempting i stress to look educated, being from the devil lands"
I'm not educated...perish the thought! The man who knows it all knows that he knows nothing at all! only a fool knows everything!

I'm just a wicked sinner sent to set the world on fire!

we're all immigrants and aliens to this planet!

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"If you're going to rant about this then please, for the love of god, don't use American grammar"
one paragraph is hardly a rant my anti American friend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

couldn't give a s..t I'm 1/4 German 1/4 Irish and half f..king awesome/English

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

can fully understand you don!t give a s... with your regressed 1/4 German 1/4 Irish and half f.king cock

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"can fully understand you don!t give a s... with your regressed 1/4 German 1/4 Irish and half f.king cock"

meow kitty has claws lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not that I don't understand your sentiment, it's how you've attempted to display it.

It's just as bad as the bile you are peddling.

I've read a lot of your threads and kind of like you but this is really disappointing. I know it was a reaction to another thread but I think your rhetoric is a massive disservice to your message.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"can fully understand you don!t give a s... with your regressed 1/4 German 1/4 Irish and half f.king cock

meow kitty has claws lol "
that made me laugh, it should not but it did as i had forgot my profile name

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"can fully understand you don!t give a s... with your regressed 1/4 German 1/4 Irish and half f.king cock

meow kitty has claws lol that made me laugh, it should not but it did as i had forgot my profile name"

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

Which immigrants particularly are scapegoated? At the moment, if anything, it seems to be those from Europe, so mainly white.... hardly racism, as these are predominantly white, being ' scapegoated' by a mainly white nation...

And why only England?

I've lived in Scotland, and some parts are hardly a cakewalk if you're English. And as for the catholic/protestant divide? You've got to see it to believe it. One of first things that I had to take into consideration when sorting out shift rotas was who would work with who because of their religion.....

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

I don't know the OP but I think he is only using the England reference because its a link back to the first thread .... not being specifically anti English."

Which, if course, would be fine if the OP had referred to a previous thread in his original post...

But he didn't, so it's irrelevant. And what he said, and said in subsequent posts, comes across as, and indeed is, anti-English...

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

"racism is rife in the UK (England especially)

Wow. Just wow.do you disagree? You need only look at race hate crime statistics in England/wales and Scotland....and membership numbers of far right Nazi groups such as the edl/Britain first etc to see that it's more prominent in England....6% of the population compared to 2% in Scotland ...pretty much the same scenario in the states where the southern states have a considerably higher rate of racial intolerance than the more liberal northern states"

So you're quoting that more people in England are in far right groups such as the EDL than in Scotland? I must say, I'm hardly surprised at this, as the EDL is the ENGLISH Defence League. And really... 6% of the population? So, about 3 Million people in England are members of a far right group? Where have you got those figures from?

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

" to be fair whoever said nearly half of Scotland is anti English would be mistaken in my view. Having lived up their for a while. I never saw any bad blood. Obviously abit off banter back and forth but never any serious anti English comments to be honest I've witnessed more anti Scottish sentiment from English folk here than I've ever experienced on the other hand from Scots being against the English...which is surprising considering the 400 years of the English oppression again the Scots

the Scots are mostly a tolerant and loving people and they're loved all over the world...which is more than can be said for the English,Germans and Americans behaving bad abroad

As a person born in Scotland to English parents I had to endure a great deal of racism against the English by Scots.

The racism is more commonly shown in schools rather than by adults though the children get the ideas from their parents.

By the way a similar racism was shown to my children when they were at school in England.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"racism is rife in the UK (England especially)

Wow. Just wow.

Exactly, wow, yes a minority may be I've experienced it myself but it is not rife

Considering at least half of Scotland is seriously anti-English, including him, he's got a fucking cheek. "

Perhaps in your view, in your little mind only

but I can assure you that living in Scotland, the majority accept and share friendship with all of the UK and don't segregate friends into a banner of English / Scottish / Irish / Welsh

Offering friendship without consideration of nationality is foremost

I think some chill pills are required by some on here

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I think people born and living here would benefit from learning some UK history. When I was at school it was the industrial revolution but these days it's the Beatles. There again, I listen to the Beatles a lot more often than I label a spinning Jenny diagram.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think this thread was a cock up from the start, it could have been quite agreeable, but for the use of English/England instead of Britain/British and as the op has his location set as Edinburgh, that's the English with their/our backs up straight away, if you post something like this, sometimes its just best to admit that you used the wrong wording, rather than keep flogging the dead horse of your argument.

Yesterday I posted a thread about pua, without quite understanding what pua was, (i was quickly bought up to speed, by one if the very people who have posted on this thread, thank you, you know who you are) I conceded that my point was invalid, due to new light being shone on the subject, and (hopefully) no harm done.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"racism is rife in the UK (England especially)

Wow. Just wow."

I'm a 55 year old black woman who was born in this country. I've witnessed racism from an early age. Things have changed immensely, so I'd disagree that racism is rife in the UK: what utter tripe!

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"racism is rife in the UK (England especially)

Wow. Just wow.

I'm a 55 year old black woman who was born in this country. I've witnessed racism from an early age. Things have changed immensely, so I'd disagree that racism is rife in the UK: what utter tripe! "
speak for yourself...your less likely to suffer what younger ethnic minorities are faced with as they're seen as fair game...just because your at home watching the news before darkfall doesn't mean it's not happening all around you....a black friend of mines was recently killed by the police...he was one of the nicest guys I know...I worked in the field of racial equality for a number of years so I dare say I'm a tad bit more connected to the reality of the situation having spoken to countless victims of racism

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"It's not that I don't understand your sentiment, it's how you've attempted to display it.

It's just as bad as the bile you are peddling.

I've read a lot of your threads and kind of like you but this is really disappointing. I know it was a reaction to another thread but I think your rhetoric is a massive disservice to your message."
your entitled to your opinion which doesn't really hold much weight in this instance as your quick to point out a problem without a solution so no prize for you buddy....you might not have grasped my intent much like many others here but there are those that do and for me that equates to a justifiable result...it's not enough that we want things to change...we must embody that change

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

This post is a follow up to a rather smallminded post previously posted by someone else who I guess was complaining about Muslims to some extent
"What's England coming to when some English folk don't even know the diverse history of England yet are quick to criticize the world for changing and attempt to find a scapegoat in immigrants to justify their smallminded racist views

And why only England?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Britain. Not England.

England didn't "achieve" the British Empire by ourselves. duh....I was just carrying on from the previous post to highlight the fact that racism is rife in the UK (England especially) racism is a tool of divide that negatively impacts us all whether directly or indirectly....what goes around comes around....we shouldn't blame others obsessively for the negative aspects of our lives...this is life...just get on with it and make the most of it without moaning over trivialities and perpetuating vile hate"

Where in Britain do you lot live?.

Rife!!.

I've lived here 45 years and in the last 20 years I think I've probably known about 5 people who are racists, that's out of about 6000.

I mean to declare Britain as rife with racism is just plain ridiculous

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Well said...some people seem to get offended at the notion of being associated with racism although they clearly are and pretending it doesn't exist doesn't make it go away so they're happy to divert the subject matter to anything that takes away focus from the issue at hand
"racism is rife in the UK (England especially)

Wow. Just wow.

Exactly, wow, yes a minority may be I've experienced it myself but it is not rife

Considering at least half of Scotland is seriously anti-English, including him, he's got a fucking cheek.

Perhaps in your view, in your little mind only

but I can assure you that living in Scotland, the majority accept and share friendship with all of the UK and don't segregate friends into a banner of English / Scottish / Irish / Welsh

Offering friendship without consideration of nationality is foremost

I think some chill pills are required by some on here "

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Do you remember how many people in England voted for ukip? The edl/sdl are one in the same...a vile hate group .....it's funny how people are offended at being stereotyped with something negative yet they have no qualms with stereotyping people negatively

just saying
"racism is rife in the UK (England especially)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The EDL wouldn't even have existed if the authoritys had clamped down at the beginning on some Muslim extremists groups!.

To imagine that one group doesn't lead to an opposing group is just bring naive

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"racism is rife in the UK (England especially)

Wow. Just wow.

I'm a 55 year old black woman who was born in this country. I've witnessed racism from an early age. Things have changed immensely, so I'd disagree that racism is rife in the UK: what utter tripe! speak for yourself...your less likely to suffer what younger ethnic minorities are faced with as they're seen as fair game...just because your at home watching the news before darkfall doesn't mean it's not happening all around you....a black friend of mines was recently killed by the police...he was one of the nicest guys I know...I worked in the field of racial equality for a number of years so I dare say I'm a tad bit more connected to the reality of the situation having spoken to countless victims of racism"

I have children in their twenties and thirties. My eldest is married to a white man my youngest marries an Asian in September.

When they were all here my house looked like the united nations.

I'm an employment law specialist working for a trade union. Every day I hear someone claiming racism, in reality it seldom.is, usually it's used by those called to task.

There are racist (not all white), but my experience, those of my children, family snd friends is not the same as yours.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's not that I don't understand your sentiment, it's how you've attempted to display it.

It's just as bad as the bile you are peddling.

I've read a lot of your threads and kind of like you but this is really disappointing. I know it was a reaction to another thread but I think your rhetoric is a massive disservice to your message.your entitled to your opinion which doesn't really hold much weight in this instance as your quick to point out a problem without a solution so no prize for you buddy....you might not have grasped my intent much like many others here but there are those that do and for me that equates to a justifiable result...it's not enough that we want things to change...we must embody that change

What you're saying is because I think the way you've gone about this is very misjudged I must not understand you and that's simply not true. You're just being petulant now.

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Yamn......stop being so pedantic

go eat a easter egg and celebrate donnie darko day like everyone else and be merry and think positive thoughts

"It's not that I don't understand your sentiment, it's how you've attempted to display it.

It's just as bad as the bile you are peddling.

I've read a lot of your threads and kind of like you but this is really disappointing. I know it was a reaction to another thread but I think your rhetoric is a massive disservice to your message.your entitled to your opinion which doesn't really hold much weight in this instance as your quick to point out a problem without a solution so no prize for you buddy....you might not have grasped my intent much like many others here but there are those that do and for me that equates to a justifiable result...it's not enough that we want things to change...we must embody that change

What you're saying is because I think the way you've gone about this is very misjudged I must not understand you and that's simply not true. You're just being petulant now."

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"The EDL wouldn't even have existed if the authoritys had clamped down at the beginning on some Muslim extremists groups!.

To imagine that one group doesn't lead to an opposing group is just bring naive"
edl is an extremist race hate group that needs to be clamped down on before they incite an all out civil war on our streets that will impact us all as is already visibly the case in many instances where ethnic minorities are being racially assaulted and attacked as a direct consequence of ignorance and smallminded bigoted intolerance

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

I kinda agree with your sentiment, OP, but your delivery leaves some room for improvement. imo

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"What empire?????"

Hackney I think ..........

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"time for a music break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzRzWxlpMRw"

Is it the Potter's Wheel ? Is it ? Hey ? Hey ?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"What empire?????

Hackney I think .......... "

Oi, we're not racist at the Hackney Empire! There's a deep well in the basement and I'll throw any of you saying such things down said well.

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By *elle2016Woman
over a year ago

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"I kinda agree with your sentiment, OP, but your delivery leaves some room for improvement. imo"

Indeed

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By *MaleMan
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can I just refer to the title of this post 'What's England coming two?'

I'm appalled that people still don't know the difference between two, too and to.

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By *orthLincsIronCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Can I just refer to the title of this post 'What's England coming two?'

I'm appalled that people still don't know the difference between two, too and to. "

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By *MaleMan
over a year ago

There's certainly some confused idea's what real 'racism' is nowadays.

For example. Having a fair logical opinion on obvious border control, migration is one thing.

Hating other races and basing idea's around border control, migration on that hatred is another thing. I'd say one is racist one isn't.

The PC brigade running about playing the race card at fair logical opinions hasn't helped. If anything caused many to be pissed off, created a backlash and hatred in some areas.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

In summary:

If you agree with the O.P. you are enlightened and wise.

If you disgaree you will be insulted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Colonisation...I don't think people understand the true meaning of that word colonizing a country or island is no different to what's Hitler was doing to jews

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Colonisation...I don't think people understand the true meaning of that word colonizing a country or island is no different to what's Hitler was doing to jews "

Yes it is.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Can I just refer to the title of this post 'What's England coming two?'

I'm appalled that people still don't know the difference between two, too and to. "

See my avatar!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What is the English language coming to?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am proud to be British and our history just wish the fuckwits in charge would grow a back bone and lead our country instead of trying to ruin it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can I just refer to the title of this post 'What's England coming two?'

I'm appalled that people still don't know the difference between two, too and to.

See my avatar!"

Ha ha ha, another pet hate of mine. Your & you're.

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"Can I just refer to the title of this post 'What's England coming two?'

I'm appalled that people still don't know the difference between two, too and to. "
lol that was a deliberate throw back to a previous post by the same name with the correct spelling...although that person who posted the original post couldn't even spell "racist" properly as they spelt it as "rasist" so my title was a play on the fact that this was a follow up and the irony of English speakers criticizing foreigners for not speaking proper english

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By *elle2016Woman
over a year ago

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criticising!!!

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Someone on this thread used the term 'darkfall'. I liked that.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"Can I just refer to the title of this post 'What's England coming two?'

I'm appalled that people still don't know the difference between two, too and to. "

I think they know, they were just trying to make the pun, obviously lost on many ...

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I love change and diversity i live in a area that is predoma tly white middle class very few black or asian in fact i think we have more polish people. I loved living amongst an asian community i learnt so much. Yes we have racism but i think alot of people especially the older people dont want change due to fear and ignorance. The only thing theyve seen is the extremes portrayed in the news and have no knowledge of the the mixed cultures that live side by side.

Maybe they should go and stand outside some school gates and watch the children of different cultures interact they could learn a thing or two

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Yes there are racist's in England as there are in every part of these isles but to say its rife is just not evident..

OP your trying to portray Scotland and the Scottish as this nirvana where there is no anti English sentiment is plain cobblers (equally there are those south of the border whom are anti those north of the border)..

the old firm football is one example of some with less than open minded views..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Colonisation...I don't think people understand the true meaning of that word colonizing a country or island is no different to what's Hitler was doing to jews "

He had gas chambers. That's different.

Sarah

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

To not ever experience something is to not define that it doesn't exist,there are racists and smallminded folk literally everywhere on the planet....I'm not stating that England is the most racist place on the planet or thats the English are the most racist but it is certainly rife in England and it's evident to those on the receiving end of it so its not for us to contest it's existence simply because it's never happened to us or we've rarely ever witnessed any incidents of racism or we simply don't consider our discriminatory views as being racists as the funny thing is that most racist don't actually think that they're racist and are generally quite offended at being termed as racist even though they have and act upon racist ideals....these are usually people who make statements such as "I'm not racist,but.....!" thats like saying "BMW not a killer but I stabbed someone to death because he took my parking space" and the reasoning behind some folks racially motivated views range in absurdity....this particular post was inspired by a post by the same name yesterday which was inspired by the fact that someone was offended by the marketing change of name of an easter egg to chocolate eggs on the grounds that it offends foreigners and that basically we should send them all back on that grounds lol lets start a race war over the name change of a chocolate egg why don't we lol not simply political correctness gone mad...but just a case of bigots gone mad lol
"Yes there are racist's in England as there are in every part of these isles but to say its rife is just not evident..

the old firm football is one example of some with less than open minded views..

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"criticising!!! "
exactly my point!

who am I or any other British person to judge and discriminate against anyone coming here who is likely smarter,more educated and hard working than me and have more to offer the UK than alot of folk in the UK who think they're entitled to an easy life at the expense of other's

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"To not ever experience something is to not define that it doesn't exist,there are racists and smallminded folk literally everywhere on the planet....I'm not stating that England is the most racist place on the planet or thats the English are the most racist but it is certainly rife in England and it's evident to those on the receiving end of it so its not for us to contest it's existence simply because it's never happened to us or we've rarely ever witnessed any incidents of racism or we simply don't consider our discriminatory views as being racists as the funny thing is that most racist don't actually think that they're racist and are generally quite offended at being termed as racist even though they have and act upon racist ideals....these are usually people who make statements such as "I'm not racist,but.....!" thats like saying "BMW not a killer but I stabbed someone to death because he took my parking space" and the reasoning behind some folks racially motivated views range in absurdity....this particular post was inspired by a post by the same name yesterday which was inspired by the fact that someone was offended by the marketing change of name of an easter egg to chocolate eggs on the grounds that it offends foreigners and that basically we should send them all back on that grounds lol lets start a race war over the name change of a chocolate egg why don't we lol not simply political correctness gone mad...but just a case of bigots gone mad lolYes there are racist's in England as there are in every part of these isles but to say its rife is just not evident..

the old firm football is one example of some with less than open minded views..

Just whom is contesting its existence..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One of the very few examples of overt racism I have seen is when the local football club here played Glasgow Rangers and some 10,000 Glaswegians took over the city centre for an afternoon.

Derby is a wonderfully diverse city, but some of these Glaswegians evidently didn't approve and we saw in horror them aggressively abuse Asian families including young children in terms I hadn't heard since the schoolyard. One elderly gentleman I saw was in tears. To be perfectly frank, I came away from that experience believing that Scotland must be a backward place full of far right wankers.

(Having since been there, I am gladly disabused of that notion).

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By *elly39devonCouple
over a year ago

tavistock

football supporters arnt a good example of anything really other than passion for the game. I think may be some English people are racist mostly older people who have seen the country change so much. Other thing is I don't think we would get so mad at the Scottish if they liked us a bit better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"criticising!!! exactly my point!

"
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Op have you ever worked in Lagos?.

My brother works out there about 4 or 5 times a year on different projects.

He's always called whitey or honky by nearly all the locals on site,a few that no him quite well just call him by his name. As he says to me, they don't mean anything by it, I'm just a very white guy in a nearly all black workforce!.

There is a few people that absolutely detest foreigners working there, but they don't call you whitey, they just hang around outside with machetes!.

People are people the world over there's a few bad apples in every barrel but my brother wouldn't say the guys waiting with machetes are "rife"

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

"Do you remember how many people in England voted for ukip? The edl/sdl are one in the same...a vile hate group .....it's funny how people are offended at being stereotyped with something negative yet they have no qualms with stereotyping people negatively

just saying racism is rife in the UK (England especially)

I voted UKIP...are you calling me a racist?

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

"Can I just refer to the title of this post 'What's England coming two?'

I'm appalled that people still don't know the difference between two, too and to. "

It kind of demonstrates the OP's intelligence level.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is a point to that story op.

I don't think there's a hope in hell of getting rid of racists by banning the use of language, your not going to eradicate homophobia by banning the word puffta,I honestly think most cultural things like this shift by generational attitudes not political correctness, there's a good chance this type of human behaviour might go on for quite some generations but.

I think the true mark of a civilised society is getting all the different elements and ideologies to get along in relative peace! Something I think the UK can be actually quite proud of. Sure it's not the utopia you want but it's never going to be everybodys version is it! and by and large it does alright compared to most other countries

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can I just refer to the title of this post 'What's England coming two?'

I'm appalled that people still don't know the difference between two, too and to.

It kind of demonstrates the OP's intelligence level."

The irony.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

"Can I just refer to the title of this post 'What's England coming two?'

I'm appalled that people still don't know the difference between two, too and to.

It kind of demonstrates the OP's intelligence level.

The irony."

It was a play on words

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over a year ago

"Can I just refer to the title of this post 'What's England coming two?'

I'm appalled that people still don't know the difference between two, too and to.

It kind of demonstrates the OP's intelligence level.

The irony.

It was a play on words

Indeed, that's blatantly obvious.

I was referring to the irony of his intelligence being questioned for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be fair in most places I've been to overseas people have asked if I'm English, not British.

I'd say attitudes have improved a lot. But I'm still surprised at how racist people can be.

As for history I think we'd all benefit from learning a lot more of British (English!) history, but people will still only use the bits that suit their world view.

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

I lived all over the world and spent half my life in the Caribbean where I was referred to as white boy or white man but not so much with a sinister or aggressively hateful intent as much as I've seen white people here utter derogatory terms with wicked intent and latent hatred....I've never felt threatened,offended by being referred to as a white person by black folk in the Caribbean but I've known true fear and disgust to be referred to in a variety of non white offensive terms by white people who've spat on me,threatened to kill me and told me that I should go back to where I come from...so there's a bit of a difference in my experiences in the Caribbean as a "whitey" ans my experiences in the uk as a "non milk bottle white whitey" ...the only stereotype of having white skin in the Caribbean is that you must be rich and have money.... Not having white skin in this country puts you in the category of being a womanizing,lazy,benefit claiming,job stealing,drug dealing,pimping,illiterate terrorist and all the rest of it lol people need to get as grip and realize we're all the same despite our differences ,live and let live...love and let love...life is too short to be filling up your time with hatred and hassle...we're here fora good time,not a long time....I've seen my fair share of machetes and guns etc being pulled at me since my early teens so I'd prefer if the uk didn't end up a relativel war zone like some of the places I've lived and been lucky enough to have gotten out alive from

you live and you learn and if you don't learn then your not really living

"There is a point to that story op.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I once almost knocked over one of mother's peacocks as I raced up the drive ... so I know how torturous life can be.

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By *akedninja OP Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

"I once almost knocked over one of mother's peacocks as I raced up the drive ... so I know how torturous life can be."
lol

sounds like there's never a dull moment in your life

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By *inzi LTV/TS
over a year ago

The Garden of Eden in Beautiful North Wales

Britain. Not England.

England didn't "achieve" the British Empire by ourselves."

Well said.

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