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The great train robbery.....1963

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

These guys must have had some guts to do what they did.

lots of chat about them and a film "buster" but it must have been a lot of guts to do it ....??????.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

criminals who got the sentences they deserved nothing gutsy about coshing a defenseless train driver going about his job .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"criminals who got the sentences they deserved nothing gutsy about coshing a defenseless train driver going about his job ."

He could have said "help your self" and not be a hero ???.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

Sure, it takes loads of guts to go in mob handed and tooled up, threatening and attacking unarmed regular workers, and then stealing stuff - wow, I'm in awe.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"Sure, it takes loads of guts to go in mob handed and tooled up, threatening and attacking unarmed regular workers, and then stealing stuff - wow, I'm in awe."
this

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Sure, it takes loads of guts to go in mob handed and tooled up, threatening and attacking unarmed regular workers, and then stealing stuff - wow, I'm in awe. this "

Tough guys.....end off.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

Further, I think that anyone who has the remotest flicker of admiration for them is in need of serious re-calibration of their moral compass

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"criminals who got the sentences they deserved nothing gutsy about coshing a defenseless train driver going about his job .

He could have said "help your self" and not be a hero ????"

Oh so all his fault then?

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

They broke the law...and injured an innocent man.

Guts?.....Thant implies that the OP has respect for them.I am sure that anyone who proposed that point of view to Jack Mills' family would receive an appropriate response.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"Further, I think that anyone who has the remotest flicker of admiration for them is in need of serious re-calibration of their moral compass"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if theyd had guts they wouldnt have led lives of petty ,violent crime, constantly in and out of prisons, they would have had the guts to live better lives.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

all these people that go online putting ruthless robbers, criminals on a pedestal. makes you wonder what would they do if the police knocked their door and said sorry your loved ones been killed or seriously injured in a robbery, but dont mind the robber that did it was brave and gutsy to hit a defenceless person over the head

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"if theyd had guts they wouldnt have led lives of petty ,violent crime, constantly in and out of prisons, they would have had the guts to live better lives."

hmmmmmm....thoughts ??.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Takes real guts to be bullies and take something that doesn't belong to you.

The real guts in the story belong to the poor guard.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If this comment had come from a 20 year old I would have just laughed it off but to have come from someone who's nearly 60 well frankly you should know better than to talk such rubbish.

The train robbers where nothing more than bully boy thugs out to steel what never belonged to them by whatever means nessesary.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Sure, it takes loads of guts to go in mob handed and tooled up, threatening and attacking unarmed regular workers, and then stealing stuff - wow, I'm in awe. this

Tough guys.....end off."

no, far from it..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Takes real guts to be bullies and take something that doesn't belong to you.

The real guts in the story belong to the poor guard. "

Good point and at last some constuctive citisism from the usual drivvle from here ?????.

And thank you .

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen


"Takes real guts to be bullies and take something that doesn't belong to you.

The real guts in the story belong to the poor guard.

Good point and at last some constuctive citisism from the usual drivvle from here ?????.

And thank you ."

Hahaha - the same basic point that was made by the 2nd poster and several others, but because you want to ingratiate yourself with a hot looking woman, you go all conciliatory

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Takes real guts to be bullies and take something that doesn't belong to you.

The real guts in the story belong to the poor guard.

Good point and at last some constuctive citisism from the usual drivvle from here ?????.

And thank you .

Hahaha - the same basic point that was made by the 2nd poster and several others, but because you want to ingratiate yourself with a hot looking woman, you go all conciliatory "

here we go again.......same old same old .......boring.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"These guys must have had some guts to do what they did.

lots of chat about them and a film "buster" but it must have been a lot of guts to do it ....??????. "

what about someone who breaks into a pensioners house or flat late at night, gives them a clump and steal's their property..?

do they have 'guts' too..?

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

I might have had a grudging admiration for them if they hadn't got caught. But they were stupid and they did.

I also think that the coshing of the train driver has been blown out of all proportion. He wasn't badly injured and there is no evidence that his injuries from that night caused his death years later

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone who doesn't agree is boring zzz zzz how very mature you are op...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Time makes villains into heroes. Jesse James is, apparently, a "legend" in the US but was nothing more than a murdering thief. Also, the "vikings" are always portrayed as heroic warriors when they were little more than ship-bound murdering and raping thugs. I don't think enough time has passed to think the Great Train Robbers were any more than a bunch of low-life violent scum thieves.

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

Only thing they did wrong was hit the Train driver

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen


"Only thing they did wrong was hit the Train driver"

Ah - I see, so theft is fine then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only thing they did wrong was hit the Train driver"

Stealing money not wrong in your book then?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Only thing they did wrong was hit the Train driver"

so if someone steals your elderly parents possessions, it ok if they don't hit them..?

ditto your children/grandchildren?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"criminals who got the sentences they deserved nothing gutsy about coshing a defenseless train driver going about his job ."

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Interesting moral compass OP.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"criminals who got the sentences they deserved nothing gutsy about coshing a defenseless train driver going about his job . "
he never really recovered.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Interesting moral compass OP. "

Thank you.......

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys


"Only thing they did wrong was hit the Train driver

Stealing money not wrong in your book then?"
Paid tax from 15 45 year,s of n i stamps told 2 year,s before i got to 60 would not get my pension till 66 dead right i would rob been robbed for 45 year,s every f-----g month when i got paid

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"I might have had a grudging admiration for them if they hadn't got caught. But they were stupid and they did.

I also think that the coshing of the train driver has been blown out of all proportion. He wasn't badly injured and there is no evidence that his injuries from that night caused his death years later"
no he wasn't badly injured was he that's why he had to have months of work due to the mental scars and was never the same again but hey it was just a bunch of jolly rouges out on a caper coshing him over the head whilst going about his lawfull business earning rather than thieving for a living scum who got exactley what they deserved

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By *arkstaffsMan
over a year ago

Rugeley

A bunch of thugs. Why they have been glamorised over the years I don't understand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sure, it takes loads of guts to go in mob handed and tooled up, threatening and attacking unarmed regular workers, and then stealing stuff - wow, I'm in awe. this

Tough guys.....end off."

I sum tough guys up as the kind of men that would run out into no man's land, under heavy machine gun fire, to save a comrade. Chalk and cheese comes to mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"These guys must have had some guts to do what they did.

lots of chat about them and a film "buster" but it must have been a lot of guts to do it ....??????. "

Can you elaborate - where are the guts you talk of? Yes they would have had to be courageous in a sense, but probably not much as it was their moral compass or career choice that dictated they probably had adrenaline rather than guts.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular


"I might have had a grudging admiration for them if they hadn't got caught. But they were stupid and they did.

I also think that the coshing of the train driver has been blown out of all proportion. He wasn't badly injured and there is no evidence that his injuries from that night caused his death years laterno he wasn't badly injured was he that's why he had to have months of work due to the mental scars and was never the same again but hey it was just a bunch of jolly rouges out on a caper coshing him over the head whilst going about his lawfull business earning rather than thieving for a living scum who got exactley what they deserved "

You obviously know more about the case than I do which is doubtful considering that I have met people on both sides of this case. My grief is pointed to the alleged member of the gang who was convicted even though the prosecution knew he had no connection with the robbery. I also take more notice of the police officer that told me facts about the train driver that for legal reasons I cannot repeat.

Don't let anything else I have said stop you from attempting to twist my words more to fit your banal argument

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Takes real guts to be bullies and take something that doesn't belong to you.

The real guts in the story belong to the poor guard.

Good point and at last some constuctive citisism from the usual drivvle from here ?????.

And thank you .

Hahaha - the same basic point that was made by the 2nd poster and several others, but because you want to ingratiate yourself with a hot looking woman, you go all conciliatory "

Except I would take it that the "hot looking woman" was being sarcastic and the OP re-confirmed his staggering intellect by missing this completely!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I might have had a grudging admiration for them if they hadn't got caught. But they were stupid and they did.

I also think that the coshing of the train driver has been blown out of all proportion. He wasn't badly injured and there is no evidence that his injuries from that night caused his death years laterno he wasn't badly injured was he that's why he had to have months of work due to the mental scars and was never the same again but hey it was just a bunch of jolly rouges out on a caper coshing him over the head whilst going about his lawfull business earning rather than thieving for a living scum who got exactley what they deserved

You obviously know more about the case than I do which is doubtful considering that I have met people on both sides of this case. My grief is pointed to the alleged member of the gang who was convicted even though the prosecution knew he had no connection with the robbery. I also take more notice of the police officer that told me facts about the train driver that for legal reasons I cannot repeat.

Don't let anything else I have said stop you from attempting to twist my words more to fit your banal argument "

At laat.....

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue

years later one of the robbers. Ronnie biggs made a record with two of the sex pistols.. but apparently never got paid by the band's manager Malcolm mclaren ..ripping off a great train robber.. you couldn't make it up..

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