FabSwingers.com forum: Nucleaur war.....a frightenly thing to think about .

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

We live in a world of constant conflict and you have to think......what if ????.

So far no one has been pushed to "press the button".

A frightenly thing to think about.

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By *ylonhunterMan
over a year ago

Wouldn't even know if it happened pal

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By *arlock69Man
over a year ago

Batley... (near Leeds)

No one will ever push the button... It might destroy all the money and gold!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm pretty certain that those with nuclear weapons know the whole point of them is just to be seen as having a button to push.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"We live in a world of constant conflict and you have to think......what if ????.

So far no one has been pushed to "press the button".

A frightenly thing to think about.

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apart from the USA !

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"I'm pretty certain that those with nuclear weapons know the whole point of them is just to be seen as having a button to push."

This

And as I don't have a button I'm not going to waste time worrying about it. It's not in my sphere of influence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well... with IS on one side and Donald Trump on the other....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bet you this Fucktard Trump will push it if Elected

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

lived with it since err pretty much most of my life and tbh it doesn't frighten me in any way..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Bet you this Fucktard Trump will push it if Elected"

Launche capability is governed by certain protocol and just a one certain guy cannot determine the the effect of nucleur war,conter measures are all in place to ensure that no one or other person decides the fate of us and the future..........far to risky.

Still makes me think hmmmmmmm.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did the time in history where the US dropped two atomic bombs just disappear?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Did the time in history where the US dropped two atomic bombs just disappear?

After a lot of thought and a lot of telling the japanese what would happen.

The japanese are a very proud people and governed by the past.....hence what happened.

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By *hekaiserMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"We live in a world of constant conflict and you have to think......what if ????.

So far no one has been pushed to "press the button".

A frightenly thing to think about.

A little extreme....plus ive got other things to worry about...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wouldn't even know if it happened pal "

thats right, Leicester is shit hole, no one would notice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did the time in history where the US dropped two atomic bombs just disappear?

After a lot of thought and a lot of telling the japanese what would happen.

The japanese are a very proud people and governed by the past.....hence what happened.

But I was referring to the second line of your OP.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i like to hover over the red button and think about what profile to block/nuke

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Did the time in history where the US dropped two atomic bombs just disappear?

After a lot of thought and a lot of telling the japanese what would happen.

The japanese are a very proud people and governed by the past.....hence what happened.

But I was referring to the second line of your OP. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did the time in history where the US dropped two atomic bombs just disappear?

After a lot of thought and a lot of telling the japanese what would happen.

The japanese are a very proud people and governed by the past.....hence what happened.

But I was referring to the second line of your OP. "

Quite. But at that point in time, Openheimer had beaten everyone else to what was the ultimate weapon of dominance. There was no answer to such a show of force from the axis powers.

Now, there are several powers capable of delivering nuclear weapons. The dynamics have changed. The biggest threat are rogue groups and small dirty bombs.

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue

darlings... worrying about nuclear war... that's like so 80,s

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"darlings... worrying about nuclear war... that's like so 80,s"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's be fair...

There's probably a bit more to setting a nuke off than just pressing a button kept under a fold up case

I reckon it's a password that has to contain at least 7 letters 1 number and a symbol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did the time in history where the US dropped two atomic bombs just disappear?

After a lot of thought and a lot of telling the japanese what would happen.

The japanese are a very proud people and governed by the past.....hence what happened.

But I was referring to the second line of your OP.

Quite. But at that point in time, Openheimer had beaten everyone else to what was the ultimate weapon of dominance. There was no answer to such a show of force from the axis powers.

Now, there are several powers capable of delivering nuclear weapons. The dynamics have changed. The biggest threat are rogue groups and small dirty bombs."

Of course things have changed, but I think its disingenuous to talk like those bombings never happened...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm pretty certain that those with nuclear weapons know the whole point of them is just to be seen as having a button to push."

Kim Jong-un?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I worry about giant worms eating my house when I go to the shops. it's more likely than a nuclear missile landing on my head.

but just in case I am wrong I make a point of not worrying to much

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Let's be fair...

There's probably a bit more to setting a nuke off than just pressing a button kept under a fold up case

I reckon it's a password that has to contain at least 7 letters 1 number and a symbol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who has the time to worry about stuff like that?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Who has the time to worry about stuff like that?"

If they are wrong we are then at war.....if they are right then we are still here and at peace.

End off........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did the time in history where the US dropped two atomic bombs just disappear?

After a lot of thought and a lot of telling the japanese what would happen.

The japanese are a very proud people and governed by the past.....hence what happened.

But I was referring to the second line of your OP.

Quite. But at that point in time, Openheimer had beaten everyone else to what was the ultimate weapon of dominance. There was no answer to such a show of force from the axis powers.

Now, there are several powers capable of delivering nuclear weapons. The dynamics have changed. The biggest threat are rogue groups and small dirty bombs.

Of course things have changed, but I think its disingenuous to talk like those bombings never happened..."

I agree. I guess the context of this argument is about the knock on effect.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were awful events. But they ended an awful war. But that is another complex debate I guess.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Did the time in history where the US dropped two atomic bombs just disappear?

After a lot of thought and a lot of telling the japanese what would happen.

The japanese are a very proud people and governed by the past.....hence what happened.

But I was referring to the second line of your OP.

Quite. But at that point in time, Openheimer had beaten everyone else to what was the ultimate weapon of dominance. There was no answer to such a show of force from the axis powers.

Now, there are several powers capable of delivering nuclear weapons. The dynamics have changed. The biggest threat are rogue groups and small dirty bombs.

Of course things have changed, but I think its disingenuous to talk like those bombings never happened...

I agree. I guess the context of this argument is about the knock on effect.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were awful events. But they ended an awful war. But that is another complex debate I guess."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who has the time to worry about stuff like that?"

You are right, I won't worry about it, if there is a nuclear war, it will be over pretty quick, and they may blow up the worms

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Tbh it's surprising that no terrorist faction has not got hold of a small one, one of these suitcase jobbies you see on fillums and dramas, and let it off already. Its easy enough to make a 'dirty bomb' apparently with a bit of HE and two lumps of fissionable stuff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tbh it's surprising that no terrorist faction has not got hold of a small one, one of these suitcase jobbies you see on fillums and dramas, and let it off already. Its easy enough to make a 'dirty bomb' apparently with a bit of HE and two lumps of fissionable stuff. "

But not easy to get hold of viable material to make it dirty or appropriate grade explosive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They mostly exist in Holywood, theoretically possible, but don't actually exist. it would take a stable lab years and millions of £s to build one.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

They mostly exist in Holywood, theoretically possible, but don't actually exist. it would take a stable lab years and millions of £s to build one."

Tell that to Korea.....??????.

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

But not easy to get hold of viable material to make it dirty or appropriate grade explosive. "

Yea but that cunt bin laden was supposed to have been a multi-millionaire and it's all about money. Loads of the stuff has gone missing apparently.

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By *antonkid1955Man
over a year ago

cardiff

With that nut case Kim Jon in North Korea trigger happy for a pop at good old USA, with China on the one side and Russia on the other..Nice little pincer move to take out East coast and central America.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tell that to Korea.....??????."

Why would they bother? they have real nuclear explosives. it's the rockets to make them into missiles they are working on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But not easy to get hold of viable material to make it dirty or appropriate grade explosive.

Yea but that cunt bin laden was supposed to have been a multi-millionaire and it's all about money. Loads of the stuff has gone missing apparently."

Nuclear waste and weapons are rigidly managed . I daresay there's lots of scaremongering stories. If those weapons had genuinely got into the wrong hands would we not have seen the effect by now?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP, I have just done the math. you are statistically 17.3 times more likely to be eaten by a bear than blown up in any form of nuclear explosion.

So you really need to worry about woods with toilets in them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We live in a world of constant conflict and you have to think......what if ????.

So far no one has been pushed to "press the button".

A frightenly thing to think about.

What a croque.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"We live in a world of constant conflict and you have to think......what if ????.

So far no one has been pushed to "press the button".

A frightenly thing to think about.

What a croque."
Monsieur

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

But not easy to get hold of viable material to make it dirty or appropriate grade explosive.

Yea but that cunt bin laden was supposed to have been a multi-millionaire and it's all about money. Loads of the stuff has gone missing apparently.

Nuclear waste and weapons are rigidly managed . I daresay there's lots of scaremongering stories. If those weapons had genuinely got into the wrong hands would we not have seen the effect by now? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah lots of bears in the woods around Leicester!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah lots of bears in the woods around Leicester!!!"

I never said OP would be eaten by a Leicester bear

just that is more of a danger than nuclear missiles.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Threads is still the most terrifying thing I've seen on telly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did the time in history where the US dropped two atomic bombs just disappear?

After a lot of thought and a lot of telling the japanese what would happen.

The japanese are a very proud people and governed by the past.....hence what happened.

But I was referring to the second line of your OP.

Quite. But at that point in time, Openheimer had beaten everyone else to what was the ultimate weapon of dominance. There was no answer to such a show of force from the axis powers.

Now, there are several powers capable of delivering nuclear weapons. The dynamics have changed. The biggest threat are rogue groups and small dirty bombs.

Of course things have changed, but I think its disingenuous to talk like those bombings never happened...

I agree. I guess the context of this argument is about the knock on effect.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were awful events. But they ended an awful war. But that is another complex debate I guess."
very true, Japan would never have surrendered. If they hadn't dropped the bombs the plans to defeat Japan would have had a far larger death count

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Oh how funny it is to read the posts of the un or misinformed.

Firstly: OP in the Korean war both General MacAthur and the Chinese (Russian client at the time) wanted to use atomic weapons.

Secondly: The use of atomic weapons does not necessarily mean some sort of Armageddon with radioactive clouds raining death down on all the world. It is all down to where the weapons are detonated. If nuclear weapons are used in the air burst mode (which I think is most lightly) the end result will be no different to that achieved by conventional warfare, the only difference will be the speed of the killing and destruction. And there is a case for saying that there would be less human suffering because casualties would not have to suffer the days/weeks/months of fear and stress involved in being in a war zone.

But I guess that what I have said will not be popular. After all the arms industries have a lot invested in keeping us hooked on conventional warfare.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did the time in history where the US dropped two atomic bombs just disappear?

After a lot of thought and a lot of telling the japanese what would happen.

The japanese are a very proud people and governed by the past.....hence what happened.

But I was referring to the second line of your OP.

Quite. But at that point in time, Openheimer had beaten everyone else to what was the ultimate weapon of dominance. There was no answer to such a show of force from the axis powers.

Now, there are several powers capable of delivering nuclear weapons. The dynamics have changed. The biggest threat are rogue groups and small dirty bombs.

Of course things have changed, but I think its disingenuous to talk like those bombings never happened...

I agree. I guess the context of this argument is about the knock on effect.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were awful events. But they ended an awful war. But that is another complex debate I guess. very true, Japan would never have surrendered. If they hadn't dropped the bombs the plans to defeat Japan would have had a far larger death count "
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It's a bit more complex than just dropping some atomic bombs!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We live in a world of constant conflict and you have to think......what if ????.

So far no one has been pushed to "press the button".

A frightenly thing to think about.

There are many many more scary things than nuclear war.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We live in a world of constant conflict and you have to think......what if ????.

So far no one has been pushed to "press the button".

A frightenly thing to think about.

some are still recovering from The Chernobyl disaster 1986,

I remember it well and all the precautions we had to take when changing air intake filters on north sea oil rigs, suited & booted with B.A.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did the time in history where the US dropped two atomic bombs just disappear?

That was because no one had 2 atomic bombs to give back ????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Way I see it, if it happens it happens. Could get run over by a bus tomorrow. Death will come to us all eventually lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Way I see it, if it happens it happens. Could get run over by a bus tomorrow. Death will come to us all eventually lol"

Or the bear thing, I like the bear thing...

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By *mojeeCouple
over a year ago

Dunfermline

As a child of the 70s growing up in the 80s was far scarier. At least now with the Internet and more modern reporting the public are more informed now than they were. We just had to believe what the government put out back then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nuclear war is cool, - just imagine all of the funky psychedelic colours before you knock it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As a child of the 70s growing up in the 80s was far scarier. At least now with the Internet and more modern reporting the public are more informed now than they were. We just had to believe what the government put out back then. "

.....yes - but evidently, all of our pedophile politicians & 'normal folk' proved to be far more hazardous to society. ....... (see Jill fix it 'n" other stuff)

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By *endrix30Man
over a year ago

dudley

"Yeah lots of bears in the woods around Leicester!!!"
But do they have nukes. Lol.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

"I'm pretty certain that those with nuclear weapons know the whole point of them is just to be seen as having a button to push."

The French keep threatening to use them once in a while, while the big countries don't seem to bother mentioning them.

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By *endrix30Man
over a year ago

dudley

Starring Donald Trump in Nuclear Apocalypse Now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it happens I just hope I am right under it, wouldn't want to be around after.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

my what a happy go lucky thread

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By *.nottsbloke..Man
over a year ago

the vale

Noone will push the button. The machines might when they rise up against us

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Is this some kind of 1960s tribute thread?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bay of Pigs

Fidel Castro is back

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

Check this shit out...

World's Most Powerful Neclear Bomb - Tsar Bomba

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R7pZOAWQrk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Threads is still the most terrifying thing I've seen on telly. "

Absoloutely

I rewatched it a year or so ago and it still terrified me 30 years on!

If you haven't seen it, you really should

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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Keep looking, some of these 'conventional' bombs are pretty impressive eg MOAB and Vacuum bomb

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

But not easy to get hold of viable material to make it dirty or appropriate grade explosive. "

A "dirty bomb" is just a conventional bomb, with radioactive (not necessarily fissionable) material packed around it.

When detonated, the conventional explosive does its thing, and in the process spreads a cloud of radioactive particles all over the place, rendering that location, and anywhere downwind (depending on weather) uninhabitable until either the area is cleaned up, or the contamination "weathers off", both of which could take many years. Obviously, both the conventional bomb, and the resulting contamination, will have the effect of causing casualties.

Phones taken from dead and captured IS terrorists involved in (I believe) the Belgian atrocities show films of the terrorists tracking the movements of individuals who work in the nuclear sector!

Hundreds of items filled with radioactive materials go missing (theft, sold off illegally etc) around the world every year. Items include.... yeah, like I'm going to list them and give anyone a shopping list for terror lol... but they are used both in the medical profession and in heavy industry.

The Russians have owned up to having "misplaced" several small "suitcase" nukes!

FYI.... Donald Trump has, should he become President, not ruled out using nukes on Europe, should America feel the need in the future. "All options are on the table" is the quote.

This country is woefully unprepared for nuclear, chemical or biological war, in fact, there is a theory (arrived at separately by both a Swiss, and a German scientist), that a flu virus that caused many old people, and some very young children, to die several winters ago had been "genetically modified" at some point in its history.

Sleep well, and don't have nightmares!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Threads is still the most terrifying thing I've seen on telly.

Absoloutely

I rewatched it a year or so ago and it still terrified me 30 years on!

If you haven't seen it, you really should"

I remember watching that when it first come out, it really makes you think

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

"Oh how funny it is to read the posts of the un or misinformed.

Firstly: OP in the Korean war both General MacAthur and the Chinese (Russian client at the time) wanted to use atomic weapons.

The least damaging (if that phrase can be used for a nuclear blast!) place to detonate a weapon is "exo-atmospheric" ie outside the atmosphere, this just produces a massive electro-magnetic pulse that takes out most electronics, transport hubs, communications etc, thus disabling a nation.

the end result will be no different to that achieved by conventional warfare, the only difference will be the speed of the killing and destruction. And there is a case for saying that there would be less human suffering because casualties would not have to suffer the days/weeks/months of fear and stress involved in being in a war zone.

An "air burst" detonation, defined as detonation above the ground, whereby the fireball does not touch the ground, is used to deliver a huge fireball, and radiation which will be "rained out" of the clouds. Those in the vicinity (defined by the size of the yield of the weapon) will be vaporised, those who survive this will then be subject to radiation poisoning, either directly from the blast, or for weeks, or months, after from rainout, the effects of which will be terrible suffering, and, eventually, death.

But I guess that what I have said will not be popular. After all the arms industries have a lot invested in keeping us hooked on conventional warfare.

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By *ittie4UCouple
over a year ago

Watford

"We live in a world of constant conflict and you have to think......what if ????.

So far no one has been pushed to "press the button".

A frightenly thing to think about.

Look on the bright side. At least you don't live in Watford. We are sitting on top of NATO Naval HQ and the UK Government's nuclear bunker. So we are target No. 1.

I suppose you are now going to say 'every cloud has a silver lining' right?

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