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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Should it result with punishment of those who administer mercy..

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By *ervent_fervourMan
over a year ago

Halifax

Nope.

Although if it was regarding capital punishment then ironically delicious.

Paradox wot wot?

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By *umpleteazerWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

I don't feel it's a question where one answer fits all. Surely it depends on the situation and the people involved? My initial reaction is that there should be no punishment for mercy killings, but then you will get people abusing it and trying to use it for personal gain. Therefore I think strict rules would need to be in place

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I don't feel it's a question where one answer fits all. Surely it depends on the situation and the people involved? My initial reaction is that there should be no punishment for mercy killings, but then you will get people abusing it and trying to use it for personal gain. Therefore I think strict rules would need to be in place"

I totally agree,,

I'm just not sure if any amount of rules and safe-guards could be put in place to counter-act the temptation of some well intentioned elderly/disabled people perhaps volunteering to opt out before their time....... just to ease the burden of their families and loved ones....

It's hellishly emotive dilemma.... and I really don't know what I feel .....

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By *ervent_fervourMan
over a year ago

Halifax

Sorry. Got the wrong end of the stick. Stupidly got mixed up with 'honour' killings. Oops.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Sorry. Got the wrong end of the stick. Stupidly got mixed up with 'honour' killings. Oops."

Tut-tut,,,,,, well you can either have detention or lines...

But you are not getting spanked....I'm afraid you might enjoy it too much... ...

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By *ervent_fervourMan
over a year ago

Halifax

Ooh Soxy. You bloody tease.


"Sorry. Got the wrong end of the stick. Stupidly got mixed up with 'honour' killings. Oops.

Tut-tut,,,,,, well you can either have detention or lines...

But you are not getting spanked....I'm afraid you might enjoy it too much... ... "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't feel it's a question where one answer fits all. Surely it depends on the situation and the people involved? My initial reaction is that there should be no punishment for mercy killings, but then you will get people abusing it and trying to use it for personal gain. Therefore I think strict rules would need to be in place

I totally agree,,

I'm just not sure if any amount of rules and safe-guards could be put in place to counter-act the temptation of some well intentioned elderly/disabled people perhaps volunteering to opt out before their time....... just to ease the burden of their families and loved ones....

It's hellishly emotive dilemma.... and I really don't know what I feel ..... "

It's their choice though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't feel it's a question where one answer fits all. Surely it depends on the situation and the people involved? My initial reaction is that there should be no punishment for mercy killings, but then you will get people abusing it and trying to use it for personal gain. Therefore I think strict rules would need to be in place"

Agree.

I think they need to hurry up and get it sorted.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ooh Soxy. You bloody tease.

"

I know ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should it result with punishment of those who administer mercy.. "
euthanasia you mean ,hey we are not doctors but then if the doctors say theirs no cure!!! who polices' it that's the problem ,we have rules for a reason but some are meant to be broken

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Do you mean mercy killings as doing it on impulse ending that person's life at that moment. Or slowly removing drugs from them and doing it with a logic mind.

My answer would be the same and that is no there should be no punishment for either. However, if someone wanted to use the first example how would you be able to differentiate between someone doing it on the spur of the moment cause they can no !longer see that person in pain as apposed to someome who decides they want to bump them off and use it as an excuse

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I don't feel it's a question where one answer fits all. Surely it depends on the situation and the people involved? My initial reaction is that there should be no punishment for mercy killings, but then you will get people abusing it and trying to use it for personal gain. Therefore I think strict rules would need to be in place

I totally agree,,

I'm just not sure if any amount of rules and safe-guards could be put in place to counter-act the temptation of some well intentioned elderly/disabled people perhaps volunteering to opt out before their time....... just to ease the burden of their families and loved ones....

It's hellishly emotive dilemma.... and I really don't know what I feel .....

It's their choice though."

I suppose it might depend on the honest answer an individual might give if asked the question to whether they would consider going before their time to ease the burden of obligation their loved ones might feel to provide them with care and support during the latter years of an in determined life span...

In that scenario I think I would agree to be taken early but in all honesty I don't think I could advise someone else to do the same and I don't think I'd even want to ask the question to anyone........

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

When I had to make the decision to turn my dads life support machine off the doctor explained how it would be if we didn't and that turning the machine off was an option (can't remember his exact wording) as strange as this sounds it was the easiest decision I've ever had to make because i knew my dads exact thoughts.

So if people told loved ones or had a statement of directive at least they know the choices the person wants, whether they are able to carry them out or not.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"When I had to make the decision to turn my dads life support machine off the doctor explained how it would be if we didn't and that turning the machine off was an option (can't remember his exact wording) as strange as this sounds it was the easiest decision I've ever had to make because i knew my dads exact thoughts.

So if people told loved ones or had a statement of directive at least they know the choices the person wants, whether they are able to carry them out or not."

I can totally empathise with that and it must be a great comfort ....

I'm just not sure we can guarantee every situation will be invested with such love and compassion .....

I can see scenarios where some people might feel obligated to go before they are ready just to ease the burden on those they leave behind....

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"When I had to make the decision to turn my dads life support machine off the doctor explained how it would be if we didn't and that turning the machine off was an option (can't remember his exact wording) as strange as this sounds it was the easiest decision I've ever had to make because i knew my dads exact thoughts.

So if people told loved ones or had a statement of directive at least they know the choices the person wants, whether they are able to carry them out or not.

I can totally empathise with that and it must be a great comfort ....

I'm just not sure we can guarantee every situation will be invested with such love and compassion .....

I can see scenarios where some people might feel obligated to go before they are ready just to ease the burden on those they leave behind....

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I personally am happy to be bumped of when my quality of life gets to a point that it isn't going to get better but worse, where the bad days are many more than the good.

But I'm not planning on going anywhere just yet

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"When I had to make the decision to turn my dads life support machine off the doctor explained how it would be if we didn't and that turning the machine off was an option (can't remember his exact wording) as strange as this sounds it was the easiest decision I've ever had to make because i knew my dads exact thoughts.

So if people told loved ones or had a statement of directive at least they know the choices the person wants, whether they are able to carry them out or not.

I can totally empathise with that and it must be a great comfort ....

I'm just not sure we can guarantee every situation will be invested with such love and compassion .....

I can see scenarios where some people might feel obligated to go before they are ready just to ease the burden on those they leave behind....

I personally am happy to be bumped of when my quality of life gets to a point that it isn't going to get better but worse, where the bad days are many more than the good.

But I'm not planning on going anywhere just yet

"

lol yeah I'm not reaching for my hat and coat just yet.....

I'm working on a dramatic exit and those sort of events require elaborate planning if the perfect flounce-out is too be achieved ....

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

The question is too simplistic

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"The question is too simplistic "

There are the wishes of the individual, the family...

And the strictures of medicine and the law wrapped up in this.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The question is too simplistic "

Good job I didn't make it harder .....

You'd have had nowt to say...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should it result with punishment of those who administer mercy.. "

Should people who do not comply with a dying person's wish to end their pain and indignity face punishment?

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Should it result with punishment of those who administer mercy..

Should people who do not comply with a dying person's wish to end their pain and indignity face punishment?"

Again, it's too simplistic... and very emotive

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The question is too simplistic

There are the wishes of the individual, the family...

And the strictures of medicine and the law wrapped up in this."

To be honest Joe ....... I was more hoping to focus on the emotive response rather than the practicalities and legalities

You are right....... my original question lacks the direction I was aiming for...

I shall immediately engage in a session of self flagellation for my penance ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should it result with punishment of those who administer mercy..

Should people who do not comply with a dying person's wish to end their pain and indignity face punishment?

Again, it's too simplistic... and very emotive "

There is no simple answer. Every case is different. And not everyone has the capability to go to Switzerland.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Should it result with punishment of those who administer mercy..

Should people who do not comply with a dying person's wish to end their pain and indignity face punishment?

Again, it's too simplistic... and very emotive

There is no simple answer. Every case is different. And not everyone has the capability to go to Switzerland."

Yes

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By *xBadGirlxxTV/TS
over a year ago

truro


"I don't feel it's a question where one answer fits all. Surely it depends on the situation and the people involved? My initial reaction is that there should be no punishment for mercy killings, but then you will get people abusing it and trying to use it for personal gain. Therefore I think strict rules would need to be in place"

Maybe like a will there should be some type of legal documentation where we can sign, with witnesses, when of sound mind, that we would like to be euphemised should we reach a point medically where we cannot make basic decisions and actions for ourselves as ascertained by a medical professional, or something...

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By *xBadGirlxxTV/TS
over a year ago

truro

why leave it to others to make these decisions for us?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think they should and left to any reasonable jury I'm sure there'd be found not guilty!.

However any genuine person found in this situation will not be put off either way so it's very emotive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think they should and left to any reasonable jury I'm sure there'd be found not guilty!.

However any genuine person found in this situation will not be put off either way so it's very emotive"

I am afraid that you are wrong. Any "reasonable" jury will have to apply the law.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

I am all for it, but there must be strict guidelines on it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think they should and left to any reasonable jury I'm sure there'd be found not guilty!.

However any genuine person found in this situation will not be put off either way so it's very emotive

I am afraid that you are wrong. Any "reasonable" jury will have to apply the law."
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No not really, jury's can and have found against a judge's instructions to the contrary

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Ponting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think they should and left to any reasonable jury I'm sure there'd be found not guilty!.

However any genuine person found in this situation will not be put off either way so it's very emotive

I am afraid that you are wrong. Any "reasonable" jury will have to apply the law..

No not really, jury's can and have found against a judge's instructions to the contrary"

Coming at it from the wrong angle. The law has to be right first. You can't rely on a jury ignoring the law.

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France

I want the option to choose to end my life if my quality of life becomes untenable;

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I want the option to choose to end my life if my quality of life becomes untenable;

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Your only options at the moment are to go to Switzerland or hope that your doctor takes pity on you and ups the painkiller dose.

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By *enard ArgenteMan
over a year ago

London and France


"I want the option to choose to end my life if my quality of life becomes untenable;

Your only options at the moment are to go to Switzerland or hope that your doctor takes pity on you and ups the painkiller dose."

There are more options than Switzerland, apart from " DIY".

And I think they will legalize it here, in the foreseeable future ; the French government is doing a study at present, and the public sentiment is moving that way.

I think it will be a very long time before the UK will sanction it; the bloody religious types and hand-wringers will keep scuppering it.

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