FabSwingers.com forum: Did USA really land on the moon

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So? did the USA really land on the moon and if so why have they never returned with advanced technology to carry out further studies?

Among other things they point to the lack of stars in photographs from the Moon and the fact that the U.S. flag placed on the surface appears to flutter, despite being in a vacuum.

Nasa has painstakingly rebutted the doubters over the years, but in 2002 astronaut Buzz Aldrin resorted to physical violence to make his point, punching a documentary maker who claimed the Moon missions were faked.

India and Japan both plan to place astronauts on the lunar surface in 2020, with Japan proposing to build the first ever Moon base in 2030.

Amazing how India can do this but still receives overseas aid from UK

So has there really been a man on the moon in years gone past

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For every amateur nothing better to do conspiracy nut theory point raised, NASA provided plausible responses. Obviously that kind of destroyed any theory...so they just get rebuked.

The whole world watched the landings,including the USSR who had have loved to have had credible evidence to disprove they happened.

They landed...a few times actually.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

well i watched nick parks documentary called "a grand day out" and i'm utterly convinced they did land there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The flag was made from foil, giving the impression that it was in the wind.

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By *hrobinhoodMan
over a year ago

arnold, Nottingham

Well there will always be conspiracy theories, maybe there isn't a space station up there, Our brains only learn from what we are told or what we see. So if you haven't actually been an astronaut you will just have to go by what you have seen on tv or what you have read lol I for one think they did goto the moon but not sure why they never returned, maybe they saw a martian lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And the stars... the lunar landscape is so bright that the camera exposure settings to take a good lunar landscape photo are not sensitive enough to image the much (much Much MUCH) fainter stars that are in the lunar sky. If the camera was set to record the stars, the moonscape would be washed out white and featureless.

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By *iouxBWoman
over a year ago

Colchester

I personally don't think so.....they need so much rocket power to take of from Earth but where was the power to return them and how come no one has managed a follow up in all these decades

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I personally don't think so.....they need so much rocket power to take of from Earth but where was the power to return them and how come no one has managed a follow up in all these decades "

Lack of political will and money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they were fake then surely Russia would have exposed them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I personally don't think so.....they need so much rocket power to take of from Earth but where was the power to return them and how come no one has managed a follow up in all these decades "

The power required to exceed earth's gravity far exceeds the power needed for sustained flight while in zero G.

Simply put, think of it as waking to your local shops with heavy weights tied around your ankles, would take a lot of effort. Half way there you can let the weights go, carry on and then return back home

It's the initial part that requires the biggest effort.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I personally don't think so.....they need so much rocket power to take of from Earth but where was the power to return them and how come no one has managed a follow up in all these decades

Lack of political will and money."

ahhh, so they just go to Mars instead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not like the moon is that far away. They probably have been, don't even know why they'd fake that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"well i watched nick parks documentary called "a grand day out" and i'm utterly convinced they did land there.

His follow up documentary, on the dangers on the abuse of robotics should the fall into the wrong hands, was a masterpiece

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes they did

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

There are several mirrors up there that are used to check the distance of the moon away from us by firing lasers at them. They didn't just evolve out of moon rock.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They set a mirror up on the moon, we've been bouncing lasers off it for about 30 years!.

Plus there's the dozen guys who've actually walked on it, pictures, film...

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I love how the OP still manages to find space in his post to have a swipe at foreign aid

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I love how the OP still manages to find space in his post to have a swipe at foreign aid

You better believe it, some of the taxes that are deducted from your wage slip each week/month and heading across to India even though they have a highly developed space program and don't need our funding

I would prefer we focused on the poor in the UK before we start throwing cash around the world, knowing that the cash isn't even getting to the people in most need of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Of course they did the godamn Americans always do it first ask chipperoo

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Of course they did the godamn Americans always do it first ask chipperoo

who's chipperoo ?????

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

"Of course they did the godamn Americans always do it first ask chipperoo

who's chipperoo ?????

You know all about the space landing conspiracy but don't know chiparoo?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Havent we had a tgread about this, this week? Is it an anniversary or something?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Havent we had a tgread about this, this week? Is it an anniversary or something?"

I'm waiting for the next conspiracy theory post....probably the one about how lizards rule the planet disguised as royalty/top politicians etc.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Havent we had a tgread about this, this week? Is it an anniversary or something?

I'm waiting for the next conspiracy theory post....probably the one about how lizards rule the planet disguised as royalty/top politicians etc....."

I guess some people believe anything they watch on tv. To be fair though the docu on the moon landing was pretty convincing xx

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

It's all a smokescreen to divert your attention from Denver airport. Swastikas, secret tunnels, killer art and alien symbols.

That's the real conspiracy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the Japanese don't call it Moonbase Alpha I will be very upset.

As for Buzz Aldrin punching the documentary maker - if someone was (effectively) calling me a lair and trying to discredit one of the greatest human achievements of the twentieth century, yes I'd probably pop him one on the nose.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Buzz Aldrin was already a hero before he punched that guy

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

Does anyone seriously believe that at the height of the cold war with Russia the USA could out shine Russia by taking the lead in the space race by claiming to land on the moon without actually doing it?

The Russians would have exposed them immediately and taking great pleasure in doing so.

Yes the landings were real yes man walked on the moon and yes bits of the landers are still on the moon surface

That does not mean film was not processed, enhanced and possibly in a few cases faked.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

If they had been faked they would have been a lot more convincing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well its not like thay have been back with the technology thay have and like mars really thay cant get nobody on there so do u really think thay did ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The cameras which went had crosses etched in to the lenses for reference marks.

This means that any photographs taken should have those crosses on them - these are missing from some photos which could only mean that the astronauts were added later.

I've yet to see a convincing explanation for this...so I do question the first American landing

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

What happened to the Apollo rocket that took the men to moon? It may have been easy to fake a walk about on the moon in a studio but that was a big rocket and lots of people saw it take off. With people inside it I assume. It didn't fly itself. Did it?

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By *ohn MingoMan
over a year ago

Dublin

Man travelled to, orbited, landed and walked on the moon.

If after all the irrefutable evidence of the above you still don't believe this, then let me apologise in advance for this:

You are a fucking idiot.

Pitting aside the the achievement istself for a moment, the maths has been done to calculate how long a conspiracy like that would last before being exposed.

Based on those directly and indirectly involved in putting a man on the moon (about 400,000 people) if it were faked then it would have been exposed in three years.

It wasn't.

We went.

It happened.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

Isn't the internet great. People can have opinions and the gullible then regard them as irrefutable facts.

Of course we went to the moon, overwhelming evidence to prove it - the key word here is evidence! Jeez

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, they did. However they found the moon was made of fairly boring rocks and not cheese as expected, so there wasn't much point in going back.

As for Buz, if I has constantly had weirdos telling me the apex of my career was faked, I don't think I would have been so restrained as to wait over 30 years before punching someone!

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

I'm waiting for the first Google rocket crash

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

They did and only 66 years after the wright brothers flew the first plane

It was indeed a giant leap for mankind

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Well its not like thay have been back with the technology thay have and like mars really thay cant get nobody on there so do u really think thay did ??"

Of course they did. Had they tried to fake it the Kremlin (among others) would have had a collective orgasm at the time in exposing it. I think most of the conspiracy theory's are based on too many people watching re-runs of Capricorn One.

Mars however is a completely different ball game.

The Apollo 11 mission to the Moon was eight days in total. A mission to Mars would be well over a year (at best)

They would need to take everything with them, food, water, air, fuel for the return journey, medical equipment, basic drugs Etc Etc. For a mission of that length it would be a logistical nightmare. Then there are the effects of prolonged weightlessness on the human body, something which is still being learned.

While complicated, sending a robot on a one way trip is a walk in the park compared to sending people and, most importantly, having to get them back.

One other thing I can say for certain is that O.J.Simpson never made it to Mars.

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

It is utterly preposterous that the US could have faked the Moon landings.

Thousands of NASA workers involved in the cover up and NONE of them spoke?

The USSR would have blown it wide open - if it were true.

And get this - with a half decent refracting telescope it is possible to see the landing sites of all six missions from the Earth. You can see what they left behind...

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"It is utterly preposterous that the US could have faked the Moon landings.

Thousands of NASA workers involved in the cover up and NONE of them spoke?

The USSR would have blown it wide open - if it were true.

And get this - with a half decent refracting telescope it is possible to see the landing sites of all six missions from the Earth. You can see what they left behind... "

Now this we agree on

My Dad worked there and said the same. Too many involved for someone not to have spoken.

And the telescope thing is irrefutable

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

Gold star for who knows the third guy's name

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Gold star for who knows the third guy's name

Mike something. Do I get half a star?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Gold star for who knows the third guy's name

Mike something. Do I get half a star?"

Colin, I will share the gold star with you

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By *iamondjoeMan
over a year ago

Glastonbury

"Gold star for who knows the third guy's name

Mike something. Do I get half a star?"

Michael Collins, if I'm not very much mistaken?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

s.... thats Colins

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Gold star for who knows the third guy's name

Mike something. Do I get half a star?

Michael Collins, if I'm not very much mistaken?"

Me and Artificialname got the star between us then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sure I've seen it written somewhere it would have cost more to fake it (including the cost of buying off all the witnesses) than it actually cost to go there

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"If they were fake then surely Russia would have exposed them. "

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By *ap AdgeMan
over a year ago

Wirral

How apollo

Flew to moon is a good book to read that explains it if you have a good understanding of science they did land

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By *oachman 9CoolMan
over a year ago

derby

"Havent we had a tgread about this, this week? Is it an anniversary or something?

I'm waiting for the next conspiracy theory post....probably the one about how lizards rule the planet disguised as royalty/top politicians etc....."
There chameleons in disguise they can see out the back of their head almost..

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