FabSwingers.com forum: Boy George and Jeremy Clarkson

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So, the BBC bans Jeremy for decking his producer. Fair enough. The BBC hires Boy George as a judge on a music show? He is a convicted criminal. What the fook is going on?

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

George didn't hit another person on the payroll

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Rehabilitation of Offenders Act?

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"George didn't hit another person on the payroll "

True. But Jeremy did not sexually assault someone on his payroll.

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

People can change. Can't say I'm a fan but he did his time or what ever he got so that should be the end of it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people. "

Unless he's on the sex offenders list?

Yeah he won't come into contact with no vulnerable people at the beeb, just like Saville and Hall never

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like Boy George .

I also like Jeremy Clarkson .

Sabrina says she would have happily been locked in a dungeon with Boy George , and I would happily sit and have a cold meal with Jeremy at midnight in a remote pub at midnight after a hard days work .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people. "

He assaulted someone. I don't want the person to be bankrolled by the BBC. Yes, I like some of those 80's songs. But I really do not want someone like that on the TV.

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people.

Unless he's on the sex offenders list?

Yeah he won't come into contact with no vulnerable people at the beeb, just like Saville and Hall never

He wasn't placed on the Sex Offender Register.

And I doubt he will come into contact with vulnerable people whilst doing the Voice. And if he does I'm pretty sure with the measures in place now, compared to when Saville was enjoying his torrid lifestyle, will ensure the safety of everyone involved.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people.

He assaulted someone. I don't want the person to be bankrolled by the BBC. Yes, I like some of those 80's songs. But I really do not want someone like that on the TV."

Write to the BBC and voice your concerns then. Start a petition. Protest outside New Broadcasting House.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people.

Unless he's on the sex offenders list?

Yeah he won't come into contact with no vulnerable people at the beeb, just like Saville and Hall never

He wasn't placed on the Sex Offender Register.

So it is not OK to deck someone when you are tired and emotional? But it is OK to sexually assault someone?

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By *ub_liminalTVTV/TS
over a year ago

Belfast

"So, the BBC bans Jeremy for decking his producer. Fair enough. The BBC hires Boy George as a judge on a music show? He is a convicted criminal. What the fook is going on?"

Clarkeson is a dick that was getting far too big and bolshy for his boots.

The BBC were left with no choice..

In the end it was a dossier of things, the physical assault he inflicted upon one his crew members being the final straw..

He wasn't the victim of a BBC PC conspiracy (the line of bs he seems fond of propagating) but his own inflated ego.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would you give a shit if you liked Boy George or disliked Jeremy Clarkson?

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people.

Unless he's on the sex offenders list?

Yeah he won't come into contact with no vulnerable people at the beeb, just like Saville and Hall never

He wasn't placed on the Sex Offender Register.

So it is not OK to deck someone when you are tired and emotional? But it is OK to sexually assault someone?"

I never said I condone what either of them did. I merely offered the fact that Boy George is no longer considered a criminal.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people.

Unless he's on the sex offenders list?

Yeah he won't come into contact with no vulnerable people at the beeb, just like Saville and Hall never

He wasn't placed on the Sex Offender Register.

So it is not OK to deck someone when you are tired and emotional? But it is OK to sexually assault someone?

I never said I condone what either of them did. I merely offered the fact that Boy George is no longer considered a criminal. "

Yes he is.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people.

Unless he's on the sex offenders list?

Yeah he won't come into contact with no vulnerable people at the beeb, just like Saville and Hall never

He wasn't placed on the Sex Offender Register.

So it is not OK to deck someone when you are tired and emotional? But it is OK to sexually assault someone?"

No one has said it's ok to sexually assault someone.

We do have laws to prevent employment discrimination on the grounds of criminal convictions. We also have laws that would limit some former offenders working with children and vulnerable adults.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Clarkson is not actually banned from appearing on the BBC.

But he was sacked from Top Gear.

He did host HIGNFY after the event

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I actually agree.. False imprisonment of a male escort and assault with a metal chain.. 15 months sentence..

He should not be earning 300,000.. Mentoring people.. On prime time TV ..and being portrayed as a role model.... No matter how long ago the crime was.

Regardless of the Jeremy Clarkson.. Thing..

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Not even sure if George's conviction counts in this country

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would you give a shit if you liked Boy George or disliked Jeremy Clarkson?"

No, he wouldn't. Plenty of others out there with worse 'employability'.

Clarkson is a twat anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people.

He assaulted someone. I don't want the person to be bankrolled by the BBC. Yes, I like some of those 80's songs. But I really do not want someone like that on the TV.

Write to the BBC and voice your concerns then. Start a petition. Protest outside New Broadcasting House.

I believe there is already a petition running

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

and your thoughts on Lesley Granthams murder conviction before his Eastenders role ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I actually agree.. False imprisonment of a male escort and assault with a metal chain.. 15 months sentence..

He should not be earning 300,000.. Mentoring people.. On prime time TV ..and being portrayed as a role model.... No matter how long ago the crime was.

Regardless of the Jeremy Clarkson.. Thing.. "

Well, the Jeremy thing was a comparison. Just to make the debate interesting. But I do agree. The fooker is a convict (no matter how much people might like Karma Chameleon) and I cannot understand why we are paying for his appearances.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

And Sue Osman in eastenders convicted drug dealer.

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By *ub_liminalTVTV/TS
over a year ago

Belfast

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By *ub_liminalTVTV/TS
over a year ago

Belfast

"Boy George is no longer a criminal. His conviction is spent. He doesn't have to declare it for employment unless it's with vulnerable people.

Unless he's on the sex offenders list?

Yeah he won't come into contact with no vulnerable people at the beeb, just like Saville and Hall never

He wasn't placed on the Sex Offender Register.

So it is not OK to deck someone when you are tired and emotional? But it is OK to sexually assault someone?

I never said I condone what either of them did. I merely offered the fact that Boy George is no longer considered a criminal.

Yes he is."

He didn't rape anyone. So sexual assault is a bit disproportionate term to use.

Not sure of the specifics ..something along the lines of a bdsm game getting out of hand with a male escort combined with illict drugs..

Clarkson wanted to be fired. His poor conduct was escalating and escalating. The BBC gave him many second chances to the point were perhaps he assumed he was untouchable. The BBC made the right decision.

He's also from a wealthy background and bum chums with Murdoch...he's not the "everyman" he portrays himself to be. Who the fuck cares ? He should've been biffa binned much sooner, if anything the BBC lacked balls and didn't do it brusquely enough.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"and your thoughts on Lesley Granthams murder conviction before his Eastenders role ?"

And Stephen Fry's credit card fraud?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"and your thoughts on Lesley Granthams murder conviction before his Eastenders role ?"

It seems like in the 70's and 80's you needed to be seedy to work at the Beeb!

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

"and your thoughts on Lesley Granthams murder conviction before his Eastenders role ?

And Stephen Fry's credit card fraud? "

Anthony Worral Thompson shoplifting, did Richard Madeley get a not guilty?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"and your thoughts on Lesley Granthams murder conviction before his Eastenders role ?

And Stephen Fry's credit card fraud?

Anthony Worral Thompson shoplifting, did Richard Madeley get a not guilty?"

Yes he did.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

"and your thoughts on Lesley Granthams murder conviction before his Eastenders role ?

And Stephen Fry's credit card fraud?

Anthony Worral Thompson shoplifting, did Richard Madeley get a not guilty?

Yes he did. "

Such a nice boy, I've always liked Richard

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"and your thoughts on Lesley Granthams murder conviction before his Eastenders role ?

And Stephen Fry's credit card fraud?

Anthony Worral Thompson shoplifting, did Richard Madeley get a not guilty?

Yes he did.

Such a nice boy, I've always liked Richard

I have absolutely no evidence to back this up but I'm inclined to believe Richards story. He's no substitute for Terry Wogan on a Sunday morning though.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

So you do the crime.

You do the time.

You should never be able to work again?

What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?

There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?

I hope you never make it onto a jury!

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By *ub_liminalTVTV/TS
over a year ago

Belfast

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

"So you do the crime.

You do the time.

You should never be able to work again?

What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?

There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?

I hope you never make it onto a jury!

Sliding scale, depending on the severity of the offence. I know there are killers who have been rehabilitated doing my job. No concerns from me

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By *ub_liminalTVTV/TS
over a year ago

Belfast

"So you do the crime.

You do the time.

You should never be able to work again?

What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?

There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?

I hope you never make it onto a jury!

They're "wholesome" "upstanding" "heterosexual" "everyman" "role models".. Though... Lol. Please.

Clarkeson has droves of sycophantic followers who lack the sophistication to see him for what he is.. priviledged plonker doing a spot of " cliched everyman" Panto and racking in the $$$ doing so.

He's a prize dickhead. George came from nothing, endured many hardships and made a few mistakes, he's honest and genuinely humble about them..

Clarkeson on the other hand wouldn't know humility if it ran him over in one of his fibre glass bodied turbo penis extensions.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Now don't sit on the fence!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Now don't sit on the fence!

Is that the same fence as the one with the Polish builders?

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Now don't sit on the fence!

Is that the same fence as the one with the Polish builders?

There's a fence with Polish builders on it?

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

"So you do the crime.

You do the time.

You should never be able to work again?

What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?

There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?

I hope you never make it onto a jury!

They're "wholesome" "upstanding" "heterosexual" "everyman" "role models".. Though... Lol. Please.

Clarkeson has droves of sycophantic followers who lack the sophistication to see him for what he is.. priviledged plonker doing a spot of " cliched everyman" Panto and racking in the $$$ doing so.

He's a prize dickhead. George came from nothing, endured many hardships and made a few mistakes, he's honest and genuinely humble about them..

Clarkeson on the other hand wouldn't know humility if it ran him over in one of his fibre glass bodied turbo penis extensions.

Unleash the Politics of envy! Privileged people should be chastised at every opportunity while good working class immigrant stock are allowed free reign to take drugs and imprison rent boys at their every whim.

Both of them screwed up in different ways, both of them were punished

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Now don't sit on the fence!

Is that the same fence as the one with the Polish builders?

There's a fence with Polish builders on it?

Don't start! The repercussions are still echoing round the forum.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Now don't sit on the fence!

Is that the same fence as the one with the Polish builders?

There's a fence with Polish builders on it?

Don't start! The repercussions are still echoing round the forum."

Shit!

What did I miss?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Now don't sit on the fence!

Is that the same fence as the one with the Polish builders?

There's a fence with Polish builders on it?

Don't start! The repercussions are still echoing round the forum."

I didn't read the thread.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Now don't sit on the fence!

Is that the same fence as the one with the Polish builders?

There's a fence with Polish builders on it?

Don't start! The repercussions are still echoing round the forum.

Shit!

What did I miss? "

You missed it!!

Briefly someone posted about Rula Lenska her predilection for Polish vodka and a finished fence celebration and in the immortal words so often used in the forum it went tits up.

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Now don't sit on the fence!

Is that the same fence as the one with the Polish builders?

There's a fence with Polish builders on it?

Don't start! The repercussions are still echoing round the forum.

I didn't read the thread.

It's five minutes I won't get back!

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By *ub_liminalTVTV/TS
over a year ago

Belfast

"So you do the crime.

You do the time.

You should never be able to work again?

What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?

There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?

I hope you never make it onto a jury!

They're "wholesome" "upstanding" "heterosexual" "everyman" "role models".. Though... Lol. Please.

Clarkeson has droves of sycophantic followers who lack the sophistication to see him for what he is.. priviledged plonker doing a spot of " cliched everyman" Panto and racking in the $$$ doing so.

He's a prize dickhead. George came from nothing, endured many hardships and made a few mistakes, he's honest and genuinely humble about them..

Clarkeson on the other hand wouldn't know humility if it ran him over in one of his fibre glass bodied turbo penis extensions.

Both of them screwed up in different ways, both of them were punished "

Not envious of anyone, just pointing a few things out. Jeremy clarkeson behaves in a very contrived , superficial way that certain unquestioning , gullible demographics lap up with a spoon.

Not a fan of either tbh, but credit and criticism where it's due.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People do their job after their conviction is spent, fuck me, where do you want to draw the line OP?

Although I would like to see Boy George charged and convicted for singing shite like Karma Chameleon.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

"So you do the crime.

You do the time.

You should never be able to work again?

What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?

There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?

I hope you never make it onto a jury!

They're "wholesome" "upstanding" "heterosexual" "everyman" "role models".. Though... Lol. Please.

Clarkeson has droves of sycophantic followers who lack the sophistication to see him for what he is.. priviledged plonker doing a spot of " cliched everyman" Panto and racking in the $$$ doing so.

He's a prize dickhead. George came from nothing, endured many hardships and made a few mistakes, he's honest and genuinely humble about them..

Clarkeson on the other hand wouldn't know humility if it ran him over in one of his fibre glass bodied turbo penis extensions.

Both of them screwed up in different ways, both of them were punished

Not envious of anyone, just pointing a few things out. Jeremy clarkeson behaves in a very contrived , superficial way that certain unquestioning , gullible demographics lap up with a spoon.

Not a fan of either tbh, but credit and criticism where it's due."
i see you criticising Clarkson for behaving in the same way as millions of other males to a larger or lesser extent. I see you praising George for being working class and ignoring his very serious transgressions purely for that reason

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By *ub_liminalTVTV/TS
over a year ago

Belfast

"So you do the crime.

You do the time.

You should never be able to work again?

What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?

There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?

I hope you never make it onto a jury!

They're "wholesome" "upstanding" "heterosexual" "everyman" "role models".. Though... Lol. Please.

Clarkeson has droves of sycophantic followers who lack the sophistication to see him for what he is.. priviledged plonker doing a spot of " cliched everyman" Panto and racking in the $$$ doing so.

He's a prize dickhead. George came from nothing, endured many hardships and made a few mistakes, he's honest and genuinely humble about them..

Clarkeson on the other hand wouldn't know humility if it ran him over in one of his fibre glass bodied turbo penis extensions.

Both of them screwed up in different ways, both of them were punished

Not envious of anyone, just pointing a few things out. Jeremy clarkeson behaves in a very contrived , superficial way that certain unquestioning , gullible demographics lap up with a spoon.

Not a fan of either tbh, but credit and criticism where it's due.i see you criticising Clarkson for behaving in the same way as millions of other males to a larger or lesser extent. I see you praising George for being working class and ignoring his very serious transgressions purely for that reason "

Boy George has expressed genuine acknowledgment , remorse and served a sentence.. Clarkeson on the other hand apologised begrudgingly as a damage control exercise under advisement from his management.

Clarkeson is an egotistical louse , the fact he assumed he could launch a vicious, humiliating assault within a work place setting and it not dawn on him there'd be consequences says it all.

My opinion. You're entitled to yours.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

and op should lord Archer still be allowed to sit in the house of lords and vote on legislation affecting all of us after all hesa convicted fellon who has served time in prison ?

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

"So you do the crime.

You do the time.

You should never be able to work again?

What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?

There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?

I hope you never make it onto a jury!

They're "wholesome" "upstanding" "heterosexual" "everyman" "role models".. Though... Lol. Please.

Clarkeson has droves of sycophantic followers who lack the sophistication to see him for what he is.. priviledged plonker doing a spot of " cliched everyman" Panto and racking in the $$$ doing so.

He's a prize dickhead. George came from nothing, endured many hardships and made a few mistakes, he's honest and genuinely humble about them..

Clarkeson on the other hand wouldn't know humility if it ran him over in one of his fibre glass bodied turbo penis extensions.

Both of them screwed up in different ways, both of them were punished

Not envious of anyone, just pointing a few things out. Jeremy clarkeson behaves in a very contrived , superficial way that certain unquestioning , gullible demographics lap up with a spoon.

Clarkeson is an egotistical louse , the fact he assumed he could launch a vicious, humiliating assault within a work place setting and it not dawn on him there'd be consequences says it all.

My opinion. You're entitled to yours."
I fail to see how you keep chastising Clarkson for giving someone a slap but condone George for imprisonment and torture merely because he said sorry afterwards. How many rapists and murderers are you going to condone because they said "yeah I did it. Sorry guys but I'm working class so everything is ok"

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By *ub_liminalTVTV/TS
over a year ago

Belfast

"So you do the crime.

You do the time.

You should never be able to work again?

What about all those d*unk driving footballers? Back to work lads. Role models you say?

There are loads of celebrities who have a criminal record. There are loads of ordinary people who have criminal records. You think people can't make mistakes and move on and rebuild their lives?

I hope you never make it onto a jury!

They're "wholesome" "upstanding" "heterosexual" "everyman" "role models".. Though... Lol. Please.

Clarkeson has droves of sycophantic followers who lack the sophistication to see him for what he is.. priviledged plonker doing a spot of " cliched everyman" Panto and racking in the $$$ doing so.

He's a prize dickhead. George came from nothing, endured many hardships and made a few mistakes, he's honest and genuinely humble about them..

Clarkeson on the other hand wouldn't know humility if it ran him over in one of his fibre glass bodied turbo penis extensions.

Both of them screwed up in different ways, both of them were punished

Not envious of anyone, just pointing a few things out. Jeremy clarkeson behaves in a very contrived , superficial way that certain unquestioning , gullible demographics lap up with a spoon.

Clarkeson is an egotistical louse , the fact he assumed he could launch a vicious, humiliating assault within a work place setting and it not dawn on him there'd be consequences says it all.

My opinion. You're entitled to yours. I fail to see how you keep chastising Clarkson for giving someone a slap but condone George for imprisonment and torture merely because he said sorry afterwards. How many rapists and murderers are you going to condone because they said "yeah I did it. Sorry guys but I'm working class so everything is ok""

As far as I'm aware he didn't rape anyone, you're getting a bit hyperbolic . it was a consenting bdsm game that got out of hand , illict drugs were involved (both parties).

He served time for malicious detention, not a sex crime. Clarkeson is an ass, he assumed he could casually inflict violence upon a lower ranking crew member and continue without consequence.

I like neither. But find clarkeson a fake, boring dick that knowingly panders to the lowest common denominator.