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"I don't drink generally, as in I will have the odd one at Christmas and a virtual one on here but I have no real reasons for why I don't drink, it's just something I don't think about doing, we went to a club for the first time a couple of weeks ago and I thought I would need one then for my nerves but when I was in there it was just not something I thought about doing, so stayed stone cold sober, I must admit though when we are on a night out me cmy feels odd that he has a drink and I don't, having said that he likes the fact that I am not hungover the next day when he has hangover horn " . Mr cmy, not me cmy | |||
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"Also for the same reasons as you though op. Makes me feel d*unk..never good. I've never met anyone who was improved by alcohol. It makes me want to go to sleep after a couple of drinks. It makes me need to piss every ten mins. It impairs my judgement. I stink of booze and the smell is horrid. It makes me feel shit the next day and all that costs me money to achieve...it's definitely a stupid drug but legal so therefore "ok" in alot of people's eyes. " All very good points. I think I just reached a point where I realised there wasn't really any positives from me drinking anymore. There was no good coming from it. | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself." Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both | |||
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"I like to drink. It keeps me sane (ish). I love to settle down with a nice bottle of red to share with hubby of an evening or to compliment a meal. I love an ice cold beer on a hot summers day.....or sipping a g&t on the decking on a summer evening....yep. I drink because i like it." I'm shocked Scarlet You share wine with your hubby? Thank god, it's just me and my son who doesn't like wine because I share my wine with no-one I like the taste of alcohol, I enjoy it | |||
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"Im thinking of giving up i suffer from hangovers and cant think straight i only drink at weekends sat or sun watching footy but lately im thinking i can spend my money on mutch better things" Having said that i am a good d*unk ,my sister says im more approchable and chatty and funny with a cheeky smile on my face,her words not mine | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself." A surprising number of people are non-drinkers it would seem. Looks like you're going to be busy | |||
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"Newcastle supporter" I would have thought that would have driven you to drink more and more | |||
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"I like to drink. It keeps me sane (ish). I love to settle down with a nice bottle of red to share with hubby of an evening or to compliment a meal. I love an ice cold beer on a hot summers day.....or sipping a g&t on the decking on a summer evening....yep. I drink because i like it." This | |||
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"Newcastle supporter I would have thought that would have driven you to drink more and more " exactly Absynth all the way | |||
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"I like to drink. It keeps me sane (ish). I love to settle down with a nice bottle of red to share with hubby of an evening or to compliment a meal. I love an ice cold beer on a hot summers day.....or sipping a g&t on the decking on a summer evening....yep. I drink because i like it." Absobloodylutely, I'm the same bar the hubby part and I don't like to share | |||
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"Neither of us are big drinkers anymore. We'll both go weeks/ months without having a drink. Then, seeing the effects alcohol can have on a person and the family, tends to put you off. " This happened to me. Without going into detail, seeing someone you love suffer from the effects of alcohol is not a pretty sight. Certainly turned me off a lot. | |||
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"I drink to socialise mostly and to have a good time in general! I've never really had a problem with it myself but I've known plenty of people who do... People who take anything to the excesses should really avoid doing anything that's got a chance to be habitual. On that note I never drink to unwind from life" That's a good point. I don't think you should ever use alcohol as an escape from real life. | |||
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"I like to drink. It keeps me sane (ish). I love to settle down with a nice bottle of red to share with hubby of an evening or to compliment a meal. I love an ice cold beer on a hot summers day.....or sipping a g&t on the decking on a summer evening....yep. I drink because i like it. Absobloodylutely, I'm the same bar the hubby part and I don't like to share " Ditto | |||
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"I drink to socialise mostly and to have a good time in general! I've never really had a problem with it myself but I've known plenty of people who do... People who take anything to the excesses should really avoid doing anything that's got a chance to be habitual. On that note I never drink to unwind from life That's a good point. I don't think you should ever use alcohol as an escape from real life." . Yeah I just tend to go in the shed and hit stuff with a hammer instead | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both " Save some for me I drink regularly its a socialable thing meeting a few pals in the pub LARGE GIN AND TONIC PLEASE | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both " Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. | |||
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"I enjoy some alcoholic drinks, an ice cold glass of German white wine, a glass of champagne, a dry martini with lemonade, a bottle of lager all go down very well. I also like a glass of Bailey's or Tia Maria. I rarely drink red wine it makes me feel depressed and the wine often served in pubs makes me feel ill. Is it likely that alcohol will become unacceptable in the future in the same way that smoking is now do you think?" Drinking doesn't have a negative effect on those sat around you or in the same room so probably not I would hazard to say. It only directly affects the user during its consumption. having said that..the person who has consumed the alcohol can then go on to have negative effects on others around them. Fights/violent behaviour that it can bring on in some (go down the hospital or police station on a weekend in town and you'll see the examples) Drink driving etc... Even the d*unks being loud after chucking out time can simply piss off the neighbourhood from time to time so I don't know to be honest if it will become socially Un acceptable...There are arguments both for and against. | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. " It's not necessarily sanctimonious. Of you've seen family members and friends die/become very ill or loose everything directly because of something...you tend not to like it very much. I'll bet there are drugs out there you look down on too...that's life | |||
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"I enjoy some alcoholic drinks, an ice cold glass of German white wine, a glass of champagne, a dry martini with lemonade, a bottle of lager all go down very well. I also like a glass of Bailey's or Tia Maria. I rarely drink red wine it makes me feel depressed and the wine often served in pubs makes me feel ill. Is it likely that alcohol will become unacceptable in the future in the same way that smoking is now do you think? Drinking doesn't have a negative effect on those sat around you or in the same room so probably not I would hazard to say. It only directly affects the user during its consumption. having said that..the person who has consumed the alcohol can then go on to have negative effects on others around them. Fights/violent behaviour that it can bring on in some (go down the hospital or police station on a weekend in town and you'll see the examples) Drink driving etc... Even the d*unks being loud after chucking out time can simply piss off the neighbourhood from time to time so I don't know to be honest if it will become socially Un acceptable...There are arguments both for and against." As with almost everything moderation is key I suppose. I talk a lot and want to be taken to night clubs when I've had a small sweet sherry and it really gets on Mr Ns nerves | |||
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"ALCOHOL SHOULD BE ILLEGAL!! " Why do you say that? | |||
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"I was brought up in a public house and have witnessed people lives get ruined often..whether due to pissed brawls or long term abuse. Just doesnt make sense apart from the tax it creates" I have direct experience of how an alcoholic can affect a family but I don't object to people having a glass of wine with their dinner or a beer on a summer evening. I don't think the majority should have to stop doing something because some people take it too far. Just as I don't advocate banning pies even though we're told there's an obesity epidemic. | |||
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"I was brought up in a public house and have witnessed people lives get ruined often..whether due to pissed brawls or long term abuse. Just doesnt make sense apart from the tax it creates I have direct experience of how an alcoholic can affect a family but I don't object to people having a glass of wine with their dinner or a beer on a summer evening. I don't think the majority should have to stop doing something because some people take it too far. Just as I don't advocate banning pies even though we're told there's an obesity epidemic." Good point good point... in the long term sense though. Never seen people have a pie n get violent and abuse health workers when they try to help | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. It's not necessarily sanctimonious. Of you've seen family members and friends die/become very ill or loose everything directly because of something...you tend not to like it very much. I'll bet there are drugs out there you look down on too...that's life " I have seen that, I still choose not to sanctimonious about it though. I don't blame alcohol or drugs for it, and I certainly wouldn't want to see something banned outright because of the illnesses and deaths the substance may contribute to or cause. That's just stupid. With that logic, we might as well ban flying or getting old. I've seen a family member die due to their recreational choices. It didn't make me like alcohol any less. | |||
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"I'm not a big drinker I may have a few when I go out but that all Problem is because rarely drink when I do I get pissed really easy, two sniffs of a wine gum and I'm anybody's " Hahaha same here lol x | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. It's not necessarily sanctimonious. Of you've seen family members and friends die/become very ill or loose everything directly because of something...you tend not to like it very much. I'll bet there are drugs out there you look down on too...that's life I have seen that, I still choose not to sanctimonious about it though. I don't blame alcohol or drugs for it, and I certainly wouldn't want to see something banned outright because of the illnesses and deaths the substance may contribute to or cause. That's just stupid. With that logic, we might as well ban flying or getting old. I've seen a family member die due to their recreational choices. It didn't make me like alcohol any less. " I didn't say ban it...All drugs need regulating not outlawing..that will just put it on the black market. It should be legal and controlled because as with any drug it has the ability to destroy or take life. Many are able to drink sensibly..lots can't. | |||
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"One drink and I'm under the table... says it all " Sounds like a good table to sit at | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. It's not necessarily sanctimonious. Of you've seen family members and friends die/become very ill or loose everything directly because of something...you tend not to like it very much. I'll bet there are drugs out there you look down on too...that's life I have seen that, I still choose not to sanctimonious about it though. I don't blame alcohol or drugs for it, and I certainly wouldn't want to see something banned outright because of the illnesses and deaths the substance may contribute to or cause. That's just stupid. With that logic, we might as well ban flying or getting old. I've seen a family member die due to their recreational choices. It didn't make me like alcohol any less. I didn't say ban it...All drugs need regulating not outlawing..that will just put it on the black market. It should be legal and controlled because as with any drug it has the ability to destroy or take life. Many are able to drink sensibly..lots can't. " I agree There are more violent atacks carried out by people under the influence of alcohol than any drug, yet it's perfectly legal to drink yourself into a super to the point you can't even remember what you did last night, when I worked in A&E every weekend we would have beat up piss heads clogging the waiting room up, some still cuffed to police officers, so wasting the time of the police and hospitals I've never head of anybody smoking a joint and going home to beat their so called lived ones up I'm not defending drugs, I don't agree with them either, I just don't get how alcohol is legal and unmonitored | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. It's not necessarily sanctimonious. Of you've seen family members and friends die/become very ill or loose everything directly because of something...you tend not to like it very much. I'll bet there are drugs out there you look down on too...that's life I have seen that, I still choose not to sanctimonious about it though. I don't blame alcohol or drugs for it, and I certainly wouldn't want to see something banned outright because of the illnesses and deaths the substance may contribute to or cause. That's just stupid. With that logic, we might as well ban flying or getting old. I've seen a family member die due to their recreational choices. It didn't make me like alcohol any less. " I don't want it banned, I don't tell other people not to drink. But seeing the effects alcohol can have, its put ME off. Having a different view, isn't being sanctimonious. | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. It's not necessarily sanctimonious. Of you've seen family members and friends die/become very ill or loose everything directly because of something...you tend not to like it very much. I'll bet there are drugs out there you look down on too...that's life I have seen that, I still choose not to sanctimonious about it though. I don't blame alcohol or drugs for it, and I certainly wouldn't want to see something banned outright because of the illnesses and deaths the substance may contribute to or cause. That's just stupid. With that logic, we might as well ban flying or getting old. I've seen a family member die due to their recreational choices. It didn't make me like alcohol any less. I didn't say ban it...All drugs need regulating not outlawing..that will just put it on the black market. It should be legal and controlled because as with any drug it has the ability to destroy or take life. Many are able to drink sensibly..lots can't. I agree There are more violent atacks carried out by people under the influence of alcohol than any drug, yet it's perfectly legal to drink yourself into a super to the point you can't even remember what you did last night, when I worked in A&E every weekend we would have beat up piss heads clogging the waiting room up, some still cuffed to police officers, so wasting the time of the police and hospitals I've never head of anybody smoking a joint and going home to beat their so called lived ones up I'm not defending drugs, I don't agree with them either, I just don't get how alcohol is legal and unmonitored " This is it...why is such a damaging drug just out there freely available in any quantities that people want? I could go to the shop now and be absolutely plastered on litres of spirits by tonight laying in a puddle of my own piss and needing a trip to hospital (many will be doing just that tonight)...nice and legal too. Off the top of my head i can't think of another drug you can legally buy and get that fucked up off of. | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. " Meet my mother and then tell me alcohol isn't evil. Want a torn ligament in your shoulder? Want a slap in the face? Want to be pushed down the stairs? Want to call the police and paramedics because a family member is ripping their hair out and having a mental breakdown from all the years of heavy drinking? Think about it other ways before you call people sanctimonious twats | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. It's not necessarily sanctimonious. Of you've seen family members and friends die/become very ill or loose everything directly because of something...you tend not to like it very much. I'll bet there are drugs out there you look down on too...that's life I have seen that, I still choose not to sanctimonious about it though. I don't blame alcohol or drugs for it, and I certainly wouldn't want to see something banned outright because of the illnesses and deaths the substance may contribute to or cause. That's just stupid. With that logic, we might as well ban flying or getting old. I've seen a family member die due to their recreational choices. It didn't make me like alcohol any less. I didn't say ban it...All drugs need regulating not outlawing..that will just put it on the black market. It should be legal and controlled because as with any drug it has the ability to destroy or take life. Many are able to drink sensibly..lots can't. " It is controlled as much as it can be. The onus of responsibility is with the consumer. Just like gambling, driving, smoking, anything. You choose how you want to be. You determine your own behaviour and attitudes. The alcohol regulations in this country are sufficient. It would be a crying shame to get to the point where your choices were limited due to over-regulation. Limiting people's freedoms and rights has a vastly greater negative impact on society than the problems alcohol causes. I'd be very interested to hear your proposals on how much more regulation and control you'd like to see put on the alcohol industry? | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. Meet my mother and then tell me alcohol isn't evil. Want a torn ligament in your shoulder? Want a slap in the face? Want to be pushed down the stairs? Want to call the police and paramedics because a family member is ripping their hair out and having a mental breakdown from all the years of heavy drinking? Think about it other ways before you call people sanctimonious twats " Thats terrible but like a lot of these things its the people taking them that are the problem.Some people get addicted and cant control it.Simialr to gambling lots do it responsibly but some just cant keep control. | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. Meet my mother and then tell me alcohol isn't evil. Want a torn ligament in your shoulder? Want a slap in the face? Want to be pushed down the stairs? Want to call the police and paramedics because a family member is ripping their hair out and having a mental breakdown from all the years of heavy drinking? Think about it other ways before you call people sanctimonious twats " I've live with an alcoholic so I know what it's like... but end of day it's their choice to drink... yes it's a Illness but a illness that is easy prevented by not letting your self get that bad in the 1st place. Before I met my partner I was really bad use to drink 3/6 bottles of wine a night. But realised it was getting to much when I was waking up with shakes that didn't go until I had my next drink. I had been though a hell of a lot. But I decided enough was enough and made my self stop. Now I can take it or leave it x | |||
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"I don't drink and I don't have an issue with alcohol, but I do have an issue with some attitudes towards alcohol. It's a drug yet not many people seem to see it as that, because it's legal. I was out at 2am on a Saturday night a little while ago and I had to dodge puddles of puke and listen to people vomiting. D*unk people are generally rude, not necessarily on purpose but because they're under the influence of a drug that affects their behaviour. You probably wouldn't take any other drug in the same quantities (or whatever the rough equivalent of intoxication is for said drug) as alcohol. Alcohol isn't an issue, binge drinking is. And whilst on the topic of alcohol... National drink wine day or whatever it was last week when Facebook was full of drinkers who like having another excuse to drink... Is there a national inject heroin day? " Agreed...trying to cue at the bank machine that knob dropped his bottle and it smashed...did he care or pick it up? No... The vacant looking idiots milling round the bank machine making it a pain in the arse to get money out.. None of whom were that d*unk but just enough just to make them seem like dicks...probably lovely people when they're sober. If scenes like that were caused by any other drug their would be uproar but the law says it's ok so it's ok apparently | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both " heyyyyyy cummon you can't keep it all to yourselves and it's good to share 3sum?? | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. Meet my mother and then tell me alcohol isn't evil. Want a torn ligament in your shoulder? Want a slap in the face? Want to be pushed down the stairs? Want to call the police and paramedics because a family member is ripping their hair out and having a mental breakdown from all the years of heavy drinking? Think about it other ways before you call people sanctimonious twats Thats terrible but like a lot of these things its the people taking them that are the problem.Some people get addicted and cant control it.Simialr to gambling lots do it responsibly but some just cant keep control." Yeah it is the person taking it.. But the alcohol is fuelling the fucked-up-ness. When she's sober, which is very rarely, she's actually an alright person.. | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. Meet my mother and then tell me alcohol isn't evil. Want a torn ligament in your shoulder? Want a slap in the face? Want to be pushed down the stairs? Want to call the police and paramedics because a family member is ripping their hair out and having a mental breakdown from all the years of heavy drinking? Think about it other ways before you call people sanctimonious twats " I did think about it all ways before I made my original comment, and I stand by it. I'm sorry you have bad experiences with alcohol, but your bad experiences do not outweigh the good experiences people have with it. Maybe you're the one not thinking about it other ways. | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. Meet my mother and then tell me alcohol isn't evil. Want a torn ligament in your shoulder? Want a slap in the face? Want to be pushed down the stairs? Want to call the police and paramedics because a family member is ripping their hair out and having a mental breakdown from all the years of heavy drinking? Think about it other ways before you call people sanctimonious twats I did think about it all ways before I made my original comment, and I stand by it. I'm sorry you have bad experiences with alcohol, but your bad experiences do not outweigh the good experiences people have with it. Maybe you're the one not thinking about it other ways. " I used to drink.. And I've said in a previous post that I don't have an issue with alcohol. So yeah I'm thinking about it in other ways. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, and mine being different to yours doesn't make me a 'sanctimonious twat'.. Just as your opinion doesn't make you one either. I just think you're being insensitive to negative feelings about alcohol. Not once have I said that your positive feelings about alcohol are wrong, so how come it's alright for you to be a dick to people who have a different opinion to you? | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. It's not necessarily sanctimonious. Of you've seen family members and friends die/become very ill or loose everything directly because of something...you tend not to like it very much. I'll bet there are drugs out there you look down on too...that's life I have seen that, I still choose not to sanctimonious about it though. I don't blame alcohol or drugs for it, and I certainly wouldn't want to see something banned outright because of the illnesses and deaths the substance may contribute to or cause. That's just stupid. With that logic, we might as well ban flying or getting old. I've seen a family member die due to their recreational choices. It didn't make me like alcohol any less. I didn't say ban it...All drugs need regulating not outlawing..that will just put it on the black market. It should be legal and controlled because as with any drug it has the ability to destroy or take life. Many are able to drink sensibly..lots can't. It is controlled as much as it can be. The onus of responsibility is with the consumer. Just like gambling, driving, smoking, anything. You choose how you want to be. You determine your own behaviour and attitudes. The alcohol regulations in this country are sufficient. It would be a crying shame to get to the point where your choices were limited due to over-regulation. Limiting people's freedoms and rights has a vastly greater negative impact on society than the problems alcohol causes. I'd be very interested to hear your proposals on how much more regulation and control you'd like to see put on the alcohol industry? " I fail to see how it's regulated. I can go out and be back here with fifty bottles of vodka in no time. Enough to kill several people...it's freely available in any quantity to anyone of legal age. I believe (I may be wrong...I need to look it up) that in certain European countries or country that they have alcohol 'dispenseries' and each person has a limit..its not prescribed and you can just buy it but there is a cap on what your allowed. As for my ideas..I'd have to think and talk to people and look at actual facts etc before magically having a solution.. but my opinion remains that it is dangerous and needs regulating somehow it's interesting to see what people's takes are on it and what others think..It's a very dividing topic it seems | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. Meet my mother and then tell me alcohol isn't evil. Want a torn ligament in your shoulder? Want a slap in the face? Want to be pushed down the stairs? Want to call the police and paramedics because a family member is ripping their hair out and having a mental breakdown from all the years of heavy drinking? Think about it other ways before you call people sanctimonious twats I did think about it all ways before I made my original comment, and I stand by it. I'm sorry you have bad experiences with alcohol, but your bad experiences do not outweigh the good experiences people have with it. Maybe you're the one not thinking about it other ways. I used to drink.. And I've said in a previous post that I don't have an issue with alcohol. So yeah I'm thinking about it in other ways. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, and mine being different to yours doesn't make me a 'sanctimonious twat'.. Just as your opinion doesn't make you one either. I just think you're being insensitive to negative feelings about alcohol. Not once have I said that your positive feelings about alcohol are wrong, so how come it's alright for you to be a dick to people who have a different opinion to you? " I don't have a problem with drinkers I just think there should be tighter laws, like bar staff shouldn't be allowed to carry on serving people who are obviously already pissed No good will ever come of that | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. Meet my mother and then tell me alcohol isn't evil. Want a torn ligament in your shoulder? Want a slap in the face? Want to be pushed down the stairs? Want to call the police and paramedics because a family member is ripping their hair out and having a mental breakdown from all the years of heavy drinking? Think about it other ways before you call people sanctimonious twats My dad was an alcoholic, he was very violent toward us and me and my sister was taken into care, we spend about a year being ping ponged around care homes and foster families before my Gran finally got custody of us People who have never seen a real alcoholic don't understand what it's like I still have scares on my face from where he beat me, I have a scare on my side from where he stuck me with a screw driver, I spend days locked in my room with no food, drink or access to the toilet, I could go on but I won't We had nothing, not even a bed to sleep in because he sold everything for booze, many weeks all we had was our free school meals, we'd have one Friday and have nothing all weekend till we went back to school Monday, family members stopped buying us birthday and Xmas gifts because they knew he sold them He was OK before he started drinking, I don't remember him ever hitting us, he lost his job and spent the whole of his redundancy money down the pub, he wasn't to bad till his money ran out and he couldn't afford the beer he was now addicted to, then he changed and our life's were hell if he couldn't get a drink, he'd even send us into the stops to steal it for him " Sounds like my biological dad. I never met him but I've heard plenty from my mum and siblings. | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. Meet my mother and then tell me alcohol isn't evil. Want a torn ligament in your shoulder? Want a slap in the face? Want to be pushed down the stairs? Want to call the police and paramedics because a family member is ripping their hair out and having a mental breakdown from all the years of heavy drinking? Think about it other ways before you call people sanctimonious twats My dad was an alcoholic, he was very violent toward us and me and my sister was taken into care, we spend about a year being ping ponged around care homes and foster families before my Gran finally got custody of us People who have never seen a real alcoholic don't understand what it's like I still have scares on my face from where he beat me, I have a scare on my side from where he stuck me with a screw driver, I spend days locked in my room with no food, drink or access to the toilet, I could go on but I won't We had nothing, not even a bed to sleep in because he sold everything for booze, many weeks all we had was our free school meals, we'd have one Friday and have nothing all weekend till we went back to school Monday, family members stopped buying us birthday and Xmas gifts because they knew he sold them He was OK before he started drinking, I don't remember him ever hitting us, he lost his job and spent the whole of his redundancy money down the pub, he wasn't to bad till his money ran out and he couldn't afford the beer he was now addicted to, then he changed and our life's were hell if he couldn't get a drink, he'd even send us into the stops to steal it for him " Fuck :-/ I was lucky enough to move in with my dad when I was 12. My sister stayed with my mum and now she drinks far too much as well. All her wages go on nights out. It's probably partly to do with her age, she's only 19 so it's new and exciting but I hope she snaps out of it before it's too late. | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. Meet my mother and then tell me alcohol isn't evil. Want a torn ligament in your shoulder? Want a slap in the face? Want to be pushed down the stairs? Want to call the police and paramedics because a family member is ripping their hair out and having a mental breakdown from all the years of heavy drinking? Think about it other ways before you call people sanctimonious twats I did think about it all ways before I made my original comment, and I stand by it. I'm sorry you have bad experiences with alcohol, but your bad experiences do not outweigh the good experiences people have with it. Maybe you're the one not thinking about it other ways. I used to drink.. And I've said in a previous post that I don't have an issue with alcohol. So yeah I'm thinking about it in other ways. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, and mine being different to yours doesn't make me a 'sanctimonious twat'.. Just as your opinion doesn't make you one either. I just think you're being insensitive to negative feelings about alcohol. Not once have I said that your positive feelings about alcohol are wrong, so how come it's alright for you to be a dick to people who have a different opinion to you? I don't have a problem with drinkers I just think there should be tighter laws, like bar staff shouldn't be allowed to carry on serving people who are obviously already pissed No good will ever come of that " | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. Meet my mother and then tell me alcohol isn't evil. Want a torn ligament in your shoulder? Want a slap in the face? Want to be pushed down the stairs? Want to call the police and paramedics because a family member is ripping their hair out and having a mental breakdown from all the years of heavy drinking? Think about it other ways before you call people sanctimonious twats I did think about it all ways before I made my original comment, and I stand by it. I'm sorry you have bad experiences with alcohol, but your bad experiences do not outweigh the good experiences people have with it. Maybe you're the one not thinking about it other ways. I used to drink.. And I've said in a previous post that I don't have an issue with alcohol. So yeah I'm thinking about it in other ways. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, and mine being different to yours doesn't make me a 'sanctimonious twat'.. Just as your opinion doesn't make you one either. I just think you're being insensitive to negative feelings about alcohol. Not once have I said that your positive feelings about alcohol are wrong, so how come it's alright for you to be a dick to people who have a different opinion to you? " I can't help that you think my feelings on this subject are insensitive. I happen to think it's insensitive to wish people's freedoms away, as some on this thread have. If you think I'm being a dick about it, that's not my problem either. | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. Meet my mother and then tell me alcohol isn't evil. Want a torn ligament in your shoulder? Want a slap in the face? Want to be pushed down the stairs? Want to call the police and paramedics because a family member is ripping their hair out and having a mental breakdown from all the years of heavy drinking? Think about it other ways before you call people sanctimonious twats I did think about it all ways before I made my original comment, and I stand by it. I'm sorry you have bad experiences with alcohol, but your bad experiences do not outweigh the good experiences people have with it. Maybe you're the one not thinking about it other ways. I used to drink.. And I've said in a previous post that I don't have an issue with alcohol. So yeah I'm thinking about it in other ways. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, and mine being different to yours doesn't make me a 'sanctimonious twat'.. Just as your opinion doesn't make you one either. I just think you're being insensitive to negative feelings about alcohol. Not once have I said that your positive feelings about alcohol are wrong, so how come it's alright for you to be a dick to people who have a different opinion to you? I can't help that you think my feelings on this subject are insensitive. I happen to think it's insensitive to wish people's freedoms away, as some on this thread have. If you think I'm being a dick about it, that's not my problem either. " Because I'm a sanctimonious twat | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. Meet my mother and then tell me alcohol isn't evil. Want a torn ligament in your shoulder? Want a slap in the face? Want to be pushed down the stairs? Want to call the police and paramedics because a family member is ripping their hair out and having a mental breakdown from all the years of heavy drinking? Think about it other ways before you call people sanctimonious twats I did think about it all ways before I made my original comment, and I stand by it. I'm sorry you have bad experiences with alcohol, but your bad experiences do not outweigh the good experiences people have with it. Maybe you're the one not thinking about it other ways. I used to drink.. And I've said in a previous post that I don't have an issue with alcohol. So yeah I'm thinking about it in other ways. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, and mine being different to yours doesn't make me a 'sanctimonious twat'.. Just as your opinion doesn't make you one either. I just think you're being insensitive to negative feelings about alcohol. Not once have I said that your positive feelings about alcohol are wrong, so how come it's alright for you to be a dick to people who have a different opinion to you? I can't help that you think my feelings on this subject are insensitive. I happen to think it's insensitive to wish people's freedoms away, as some on this thread have. If you think I'm being a dick about it, that's not my problem either. " If you look up this post.. It was you who came in here...A thread about opinions on alcohol and right off the bat started calling people sanctimonious twats because of their opinion on alcohol (did you expect people to be like 'yay! Go booze!?) So that's no doubt why people have you pegged as insensitive and your opinion means jack all to them. | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. Meet my mother and then tell me alcohol isn't evil. Want a torn ligament in your shoulder? Want a slap in the face? Want to be pushed down the stairs? Want to call the police and paramedics because a family member is ripping their hair out and having a mental breakdown from all the years of heavy drinking? Think about it other ways before you call people sanctimonious twats I did think about it all ways before I made my original comment, and I stand by it. I'm sorry you have bad experiences with alcohol, but your bad experiences do not outweigh the good experiences people have with it. Maybe you're the one not thinking about it other ways. I used to drink.. And I've said in a previous post that I don't have an issue with alcohol. So yeah I'm thinking about it in other ways. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, and mine being different to yours doesn't make me a 'sanctimonious twat'.. Just as your opinion doesn't make you one either. I just think you're being insensitive to negative feelings about alcohol. Not once have I said that your positive feelings about alcohol are wrong, so how come it's alright for you to be a dick to people who have a different opinion to you? I can't help that you think my feelings on this subject are insensitive. I happen to think it's insensitive to wish people's freedoms away, as some on this thread have. If you think I'm being a dick about it, that's not my problem either. " But what about the freedom of the people who have to suffer d*unks The police that spend hours being called out to d*unken fights, the hospital staff that suffer abuse from d*unks who end up in A&E Nobody has said ban it, just moderate it better People who only drink to be social wouldnt mind as it wouldnt affect them It would only affect excessive drinks, some people need saving from themselves | |||
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"I don't drink on a regular basis, only have a couple now and then. Though I do have a friend that when in his company,as I feel totally safe l let my hair down and have a hell of a good drink Luckily I don't happen to suffer any hangovers. My soon to be Ex was a alcoholic. After 13 failed detox programs.... Vodka is still and always will be his mistress. I made the decision to walk away after he said he'd never stop drinking. It wasn't a decision I wanted to make,it was one I had to make for the sake of my own sanity." He sounds great | |||
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"...or NOT as the case may be. Just curious to know why people drink (or don't). What do you get out of it? What's the reason (if any)? If you've quit or cut down then why? I pretty much don't drink anymore. The odd pint every blue moon. I can't say I ever particularly enjoyed it. The hangovers just killed me and they seemed to get worse as I got older. I really don't think I have the constitution for alcohol. My body just doesn't take to it. Knocking it on the head was one of the best things I ever did." I am not 100% teetotal and I don't drink alcohol because it makes me violent and I attack people I love and kiss and hug people I can't stand pmsl I use it medicinally if it's a winter cold but it's not for me | |||
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"I don't drink on a regular basis, only have a couple now and then. Though I do have a friend that when in his company,as I feel totally safe l let my hair down and have a hell of a good drink Luckily I don't happen to suffer any hangovers. My soon to be Ex was a alcoholic. After 13 failed detox programs.... Vodka is still and always will be his mistress. I made the decision to walk away after he said he'd never stop drinking. It wasn't a decision I wanted to make,it was one I had to make for the sake of my own sanity." Because alcohol is a legal drug we underestimate its potential for destruction. I have seen it cause so much damage but I'm not on an anti alcohol rant. I just think if we could start again and make a new country with good citizens I don't think we would encourage alcohol use. | |||
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"I don't drink on a regular basis, only have a couple now and then. Though I do have a friend that when in his company,as I feel totally safe l let my hair down and have a hell of a good drink Luckily I don't happen to suffer any hangovers. My soon to be Ex was a alcoholic. After 13 failed detox programs.... Vodka is still and always will be his mistress. I made the decision to walk away after he said he'd never stop drinking. It wasn't a decision I wanted to make,it was one I had to make for the sake of my own sanity. Because alcohol is a legal drug we underestimate its potential for destruction. I have seen it cause so much damage but I'm not on an anti alcohol rant. I just think if we could start again and make a new country with good citizens I don't think we would encourage alcohol use. " I've always wondered...If alcohol had just been discovered..would it be classified as a drug and given a classification like the other drugs? And if so...what would that classification be? Surely class b controlled substance or above? | |||
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"...or NOT as the case may be. Just curious to know why people drink (or don't). What do you get out of it? What's the reason (if any)? If you've quit or cut down then why? I pretty much don't drink anymore. The odd pint every blue moon. I can't say I ever particularly enjoyed it. The hangovers just killed me and they seemed to get worse as I got older. I really don't think I have the constitution for alcohol. My body just doesn't take to it. Knocking it on the head was one of the best things I ever did." Thoroughly enjoy a drink - always have done - I never get angry or daft on it either which is a huge bonus. In simple terms - one of the greatest pleasures in my life personally - and I also enjoy 'the craic' that comes with it in the pub. | |||
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"Just to put things into perspective, if the properties of alcohol are compared on the drug categorization system that's currently in place in the UK, crack cocaine is category A and alcohol would be A plus if such a category existed." fully agree crack and alcohol are very similar in my opinion just one is socially acceptable | |||
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" I don't have a problem with drinkers I just think there should be tighter laws, like bar staff shouldn't be allowed to carry on serving people who are obviously already pissed No good will ever come of that Not sure if its been covered but it actually is illegal to serve anyone who is intoxicated. It is illegal to be d*unk on licensed premises " Thats rarely inforced though.. You see massive amounts of pissed people milling between pubs on a weekend...they must be getting served some place and i vant see many bar keeps asking people to take sobriety tests. | |||
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"I don't drink much, but what I do, I drink for a few reasons...... 1.I simply adore the taste of red wine 2.This may sound crazy, but when I'm cold nothing warms me up faster. 3.It makes reading some of the crap in my inbox far more tolerable! " Your point number 2 is explainable because alcohol messes with the hypothalamus - the part of the brain that controls body temperature. Many alcohol users have died from hypothermia for this very reason. | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. Meet my mother and then tell me alcohol isn't evil. Want a torn ligament in your shoulder? Want a slap in the face? Want to be pushed down the stairs? Want to call the police and paramedics because a family member is ripping their hair out and having a mental breakdown from all the years of heavy drinking? Think about it other ways before you call people sanctimonious twats I did think about it all ways before I made my original comment, and I stand by it. I'm sorry you have bad experiences with alcohol, but your bad experiences do not outweigh the good experiences people have with it. Maybe you're the one not thinking about it other ways. I used to drink.. And I've said in a previous post that I don't have an issue with alcohol. So yeah I'm thinking about it in other ways. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, and mine being different to yours doesn't make me a 'sanctimonious twat'.. Just as your opinion doesn't make you one either. I just think you're being insensitive to negative feelings about alcohol. Not once have I said that your positive feelings about alcohol are wrong, so how come it's alright for you to be a dick to people who have a different opinion to you? I can't help that you think my feelings on this subject are insensitive. I happen to think it's insensitive to wish people's freedoms away, as some on this thread have. If you think I'm being a dick about it, that's not my problem either. If you look up this post.. It was you who came in here...A thread about opinions on alcohol and right off the bat started calling people sanctimonious twats because of their opinion on alcohol (did you expect people to be like 'yay! Go booze!?) So that's no doubt why people have you pegged as insensitive and your opinion means jack all to them. " And I absolutely don't mind that, I stand by my view. You're getting a bit bent out of shape over someone's opinion that means jack all to you, are you not. Chill out mate. | |||
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"I don't drink much, but what I do, I drink for a few reasons...... 1.I simply adore the taste of red wine 2.This may sound crazy, but when I'm cold nothing warms me up faster. 3.It makes reading some of the crap in my inbox far more tolerable! Your point number 2 is explainable because alcohol messes with the hypothalamus - the part of the brain that controls body temperature. Many alcohol users have died from hypothermia for this very reason." Thank you for explaining that!! I never knew - I certainly go the other way though and end up boiling (not very attractive!) lol | |||
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"...or NOT as the case may be. Just curious to know why people drink (or don't). What do you get out of it? What's the reason (if any)? If you've quit or cut down then why? I pretty much don't drink anymore. The odd pint every blue moon. I can't say I ever particularly enjoyed it. The Ihangovers just killed me and they seemed to get worse as I got older. I really don't think I have the constitution for alcohol. My body just doesn't take to it. Knocking it on the head was one of the best things I ever did." I occasionally drink in company I have no need to though really ,if I go for a meal in company I quite often have a soft drink ,I love my sport alcohol takes my edge off | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. Meet my mother and then tell me alcohol isn't evil. Want a torn ligament in your shoulder? Want a slap in the face? Want to be pushed down the stairs? Want to call the police and paramedics because a family member is ripping their hair out and having a mental breakdown from all the years of heavy drinking? Think about it other ways before you call people sanctimonious twats I did think about it all ways before I made my original comment, and I stand by it. I'm sorry you have bad experiences with alcohol, but your bad experiences do not outweigh the good experiences people have with it. Maybe you're the one not thinking about it other ways. I used to drink.. And I've said in a previous post that I don't have an issue with alcohol. So yeah I'm thinking about it in other ways. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, and mine being different to yours doesn't make me a 'sanctimonious twat'.. Just as your opinion doesn't make you one either. I just think you're being insensitive to negative feelings about alcohol. Not once have I said that your positive feelings about alcohol are wrong, so how come it's alright for you to be a dick to people who have a different opinion to you? I can't help that you think my feelings on this subject are insensitive. I happen to think it's insensitive to wish people's freedoms away, as some on this thread have. If you think I'm being a dick about it, that's not my problem either. If you look up this post.. It was you who came in here...A thread about opinions on alcohol and right off the bat started calling people sanctimonious twats because of their opinion on alcohol (did you expect people to be like 'yay! Go booze!?) So that's no doubt why people have you pegged as insensitive and your opinion means jack all to them. And I absolutely don't mind that, I stand by my view. You're getting a bit bent out of shape over someone's opinion that means jack all to you, are you not. Chill out mate. " One. im not your mate And two, i'm very chilled. | |||
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"Somebody pass me the wine " Cotes de Roussillon?? | |||
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"Somebody pass me the wine Cotes de Roussillon?? " That'll do to start | |||
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"Somebody pass me the wine Cotes de Roussillon?? That'll do to start " Got a couple of glasses left and real vintage spag bol on the go! | |||
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"I'm on a crusade to save people from the evils of alcohol by drinking it all myself. Can i help? Judging by this lot there'll be plenty for us both Yeah, count me in to this club too, because I personally cannot stand the sanctimonious twats that curse the 'evils' of drinking. " It's realism to recognise that there are a lot of evils associated with drinking. When it's done in moderation, fine but it's very often abused, with serious consequences. | |||
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"Somebody pass me the wine Cotes de Roussillon?? That'll do to start Got a couple of glasses left and real vintage spag bol on the go! " Sounds delicious....I'm on my way | |||
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"Somebody pass me the wine " I have grapes...you'll need to do the rest yourself | |||
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"Somebody pass me the wine I have grapes...you'll need to do the rest yourself " That's why god invented thrush... | |||
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"Somebody pass me the wine I have grapes...you'll need to do the rest yourself That's why god invented thrush..." Genital fermentation... It's beautiful. I'm sure there is a high-end market for that. | |||
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"Somebody pass me the wine I have grapes...you'll need to do the rest yourself That's why god invented thrush... Genital fermentation... It's beautiful. I'm sure there is a high-end market for that." I could do the cheese to go with it | |||
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"Somebody pass me the wine I have grapes...you'll need to do the rest yourself That's why god invented thrush... Genital fermentation... It's beautiful. I'm sure there is a high-end market for that. I could do the cheese to go with it " To far Christos, to far... | |||
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"Somebody pass me the wine I have grapes...you'll need to do the rest yourself That's why god invented thrush... Genital fermentation... It's beautiful. I'm sure there is a high-end market for that. I could do the cheese to go with it To far Christos, to far... " This? From you?....... | |||
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"Somebody pass me the wine I have grapes...you'll need to do the rest yourself That's why god invented thrush... Genital fermentation... It's beautiful. I'm sure there is a high-end market for that. I could do the cheese to go with it " | |||
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"Somebody pass me the wine I have grapes...you'll need to do the rest yourself That's why god invented thrush... Genital fermentation... It's beautiful. I'm sure there is a high-end market for that. I could do the cheese to go with it To far Christos, to far... This? From you?....... " Exactly! You've completely misjudged the mood of the nation! | |||
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