FabSwingers.com forum: Do you believe in Karma?

By *he_original_polo OP Woman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

Do the things we think and feel, do and say carry the cost of payback from a higher force of nature at some point in the future?

Do you believe the seemingly unrelated shit which gets dumped into your life is nature balancing the books?

Does how we treat someone today improve or ruin our chances of winning the lottery or avoiding accidents tomorrow?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Yes. But then i did get called a crack pot friday night for my beliefs lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no but my chameleon does

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By *nvictusMan
over a year ago

Beeston

Not exactly.

I do feel some families can carry a certain amount of bad or good luck around... but it's not specific to individuals as such, although they can add or alter that with their own lives and deeds.

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By *eighleedsMan
over a year ago

leeds

nope,

i believe in treating my fellow humans in the way i would expect to be treated.as tehy shouild to me

nothing can improve your chances of winning the lottery thats random

Accidents are just that accidents, they happen, its ctrap when they do happen, but thats life, nothing can say wether they will happen or not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh totally.. I really do believe what goes around comes around..

And lets face it, even if you dont believe that.. would it really hurt the world if people believed that good actions would make for a nicer life for yourself??

Katie.x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I do what goes around comes around and comes back to bite you on the bum

I'm nice to guys and gals I can't stand it's easier to smile than scowl

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By *unky monkeyMan
over a year ago

in the night garden

Generally I'd say it was bollocks but I did something particularly naughty 2 weeks ago (Which I'm not at liberty to say) and an hour later I took my car into a car wash and the fucker ripped off half of the back of my car!

I did consider Karma at the time.

I also used to watch My Name is Earl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think some people get their come uppance if they are particulalry cruel in how they interact with others they live amongst - probably just because of the sheer number of enemies they make by their hostile nature. I think nasty people attract fellow nasties.

I don't think people who live a 'good' life with regard for everyone end up being rewarded materially. I think they don't look for it and are just high on life, minus the lottery win.

If good or bad people seek acceptance based only on their outward behaviour they will be disappointed with what life brings. We say we don't judge but we do and I think its human nature to imagine that those who want what they think they deserve will get it in whichever form it comes, good or bad. I think you reap what you sow and in the end you have to live with yourself and your decisions of how you treat others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yup i sure do believe.. what goes around comes around

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if what goes around comes around, then I MUST be due some good luck soon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not really in it being a higher force but i do believe in the reap what ye sow theory.

I firmly believe in treating others as u wish to be treated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The way I look at is is I try to do more good than I do bad (I do try not to do bad but sometimes don't realise).

Why should anyone do this? Think about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not really in it being a higher force but i do believe in the reap what ye sow theory.

I firmly believe in treating others as u wish to be treated. "

agree totally, a good point of reference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not really in it being a higher force but i do believe in the reap what ye sow theory.

I firmly believe in treating others as u wish to be treated.

agree totally, a good point of reference."

ooops unless you are into something a bit ... you know

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By *uro anchorMan
over a year ago

Coventry

Do the things we think and feel, do and say carry the cost of payback from a higher force of nature at some point in the future?

Do you believe the seemingly unrelated shit which gets dumped into your life is nature balancing the books?

Does how we treat someone today improve or ruin our chances of winning the lottery or avoiding accidents tomorrow?

not so sure about winning the lottery or avoiding accidents but find if u do nice things for people it always seems to come back... does for me anyway...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes i do xx what go s around come around x seen it time and time again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i do beleive in fate is that the same thing? the only thing is though im a really really nice person and ive never even won a £10 on the lottery

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've observed nice people who treat others as they wish to be treated, taken advantage of and used.

Sometimes you need a tough outer shell to survive in this world, never mind the next one.

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By *uro anchorMan
over a year ago

Coventry

"I've observed nice people who treat others as they wish to be treated, taken advantage of and used.

Sometimes you need a tough outer shell to survive in this world, never mind the next one. "

ive helped people moved things for them and given loads of stuff away.. even got lists of thngs that people want and cant afford to buy.. if i come accross it ill even deliver it all for free.. then when one of their friends is moving i tend to get the job... and that without anyone walking over me..

does work for me...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But euro there are some that will take the piss,I have lent a friend numerous times money and never got it back and they still ask and guess what I still give,so does that make me nice or a soft touch?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've observed nice people who treat others as they wish to be treated, taken advantage of and used.

Sometimes you need a tough outer shell to survive in this world, never mind the next one. "

Im afraid im one of these people.

But........

What goes around, comes around and its true.

Ill get my reward in heaven and they will get theirs in hell

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

No,not as you describe it.i believe things are far more complicated than that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But euro there are some that will take the piss,I have lent a friend numerous times money and never got it back and they still ask and guess what I still give,so does that make me nice or a soft touch?

.....makes you a forgiving and giving friend. xxx

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By *uro anchorMan
over a year ago

Coventry

yes know what u mean... got a bloke that has owed me over £100 over 6 months.. but i will get it back and wont ever lend him money again so in the end he will be the loser..

funny thing money...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh totally.. I really do believe what goes around comes around..

And lets face it, even if you dont believe that.. would it really hurt the world if people believed that good actions would make for a nicer life for yourself??

Katie.x"

will you be become your masters master then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do actually believe that i am not lucky, once spent an entire year doing the competitions in a magazine and religiously sending them off, only to win a big fat zilch, bought a lottery ticket for a year, again another big fat zilch, whereas my daughter only has to look at a scratch card and wins, once won £80 bought another card and won £40 then another and won £8, great

As to your first line, possibly but i will let you know as i am going to do something, i know is right, will make me feel heaps better, will hurt someone else and make smack me in the face in the future but thats life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be quite frank,,,, if there are people who live accepting theres is such a thing as divine karma at work designed and implemented by some higher being or level of consciousness which marshals the action and inaction of the human species, lending its-self to supporting a reap what you sow reward and punishment system……

What a shit proposition it then beckons when it becomes necessary to justify and rationalise that system to some poor person born into physical or mental hardship ……

For-Sure.... modifying what you do, or dont do in life, invites greater potential for reward or loss,,,….. but there aint nuff’in guaranteed

as for explaining it all as Karma.... utter,,,bollix... imho

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To be quite frank,,,, if there are people who live accepting theres is such a thing as divine karma at work designed and implemented by some higher being or level of consciousness which marshals the action and inaction of the human species, lending its-self to supporting a reap what you sow reward and punishment system……

What a shit proposition it then beckons when it becomes necessary to justify and rationalise that system to some poor person born into physical or mental hardship ……

For-Sure.... modifying what you do, or dont do in life, invites greater potential for reward or loss,,,….. but there aint nuff’in guaranteed

as for explaining it all as Karma.... utter,,,bollix... imho

Not talking about how people are born in the reap sow thing. I meant that while you are consciously and capable of sowing then you will in turn reap good or bad. Not because of your capabilities or disabilities but because of your attitude and how you interact with others. Physically disabled people are just as adept at being hurtful or nice to their fellow man as able bodied people are by their words and deeds.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not really. Nice idea though, but then so id god...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If i do something for someone , i never do it in the hope of a reward.

I do it ..whatever it maybe...because thats me. Thats the way im made and i wont apologise for some thinking im a pushover.

If people think that, well , those are the ones i have to avoid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yup,, I agreed with you........ thats why I said:-

For-Sure.... modifying what you do, or dont do in life, invites greater potential for reward or loss,,,….. but there aint nuff’in guaranteed...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If i do something for someone , i never do it in the hope of a reward.

I do it ..whatever it maybe...because thats me. Thats the way im made and i wont apologise for some thinking im a pushover.

If people think that, well , those are the ones i have to avoid

I know what you mean I give things away or do things because I want to. I have only ever been cheesed off with someones thoughtlessness to a degree I was angry. A friend moved into a new house and I was refurbing so I gave her my dining room furniture - really nice and modern almost new but that was that. I had a new set so wanted rid. She was thrilled. I didn't want anything for it. When she was in a position to buy her own new furniture she rang me up and told me she had sold the one I gave her on ebay for 200 quid. I gave it to her so that wasn't the thing that got me. Her rubbing my nose in hurt me especially when she added I'll just wait for you to get fed up of your sofas and then make a kill on that - assuming she would be given the sofa was very rude of her. People have done some rotten things to me but never took me for a sucker like she did.

I like my nature and still won't change because of that incident - neither will you because we give without agenda. Fools are easy to avoid xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If i do something for someone , i never do it in the hope of a reward.

I do it ..whatever it maybe...because thats me. Thats the way im made and i wont apologise for some thinking im a pushover.

If people think that, well , those are the ones i have to avoid

I like my nature and still won't change because of that incident - neither will you because we give without agenda. Fools are easy to avoid xxx"

I believe you said you gave her the furniture, surely then unless you are lending it to her, it then becomes her property to do with as she wishes, and thats what she has done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If i do something for someone , i never do it in the hope of a reward.

I do it ..whatever it maybe...because thats me. Thats the way im made and i wont apologise for some thinking im a pushover.

If people think that, well , those are the ones i have to avoid

I like my nature and still won't change because of that incident - neither will you because we give without agenda. Fools are easy to avoid xxx"

I agree that if we give we give unconditionally.

Once we do give that item is no longer ours but belongs to the recipient to do with as best suits them.

If we attached rules and conditions to what we give we might end up feeling hurt and jaded as we hadn't really performed a selfless act.

Come to think of it ....... I don't think there is such a thing as a selfless act..... but that's a whole different debate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I do not believe in Karma.

I do hold , to an extent, that ( in the words of Frank Gallaghers conscience ) that you are the total sum of your own behaviour.

I eat therefore im fat.

I ran with drug dealers therefore I got shot.

I fucked the internet therefore I got a dose.

etc etc etc. ......

Karma ...no.

If I could list some ills that have befallen some of the most good willed , hard working , decent people on the planet it would knock the Karma theory into a cocked hat.

An element of reap what you sow can be applied to life but not without looking at a myriad of contributory factors in life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fugg ...... see ! Not reading before I post makes me repeat repeat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh my word,,,,, I’m all a fluster……. Me and Granny harmonised together a veritable unison of agreement disparaging Karma as utter bollix…….OMG……I need a to saviour this moment and reflect……ahhhh sighhhhhhh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Come to think of it ....... I don't think there is such a thing as a selfless act..... but that's a whole different debate. "

Possibly ... because if you give just for the pleasure of it you were given pleasurable feelings because of the act.. nothing is without an end result. Your pleasure can be soured by thoughtlessness though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Come to think of it ....... I don't think there is such a thing as a selfless act..... but that's a whole different debate.

Agreed ShareShare x The selfishness of others and rudeness ( though that is more personalised ) are the things that disappoint me most.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh my word,,,,, I’m all a fluster……. Me and Granny harmonised together a veritable unison of agreement disparaging Karma as utter bollix…….OMG……I need a to saviour this moment and reflect……ahhhh sighhhhhhh

I thought your post , well written and insightful soxy .... read it twice in fact and thought .... bugger me Soxy is having a moment of contemplative seriousness. A joy.

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By *uro anchorMan
over a year ago

Coventry

dont matter if u believe it or not...

is it wrong to be nice to people ?..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"dont matter if u believe it or not...

is it wrong to be nice to people ?.."

Gosh its never wrong... only people who aren't nice to others would make a disparaging remark surely?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"dont matter if u believe it or not...

is it wrong to be nice to people ?..

Gosh its never wrong... only people who aren't nice to others would make a disparaging remark surely? "

Uh - Oh .....

It does matter if we believe it or not. It does matter if we never make a negative comment.

Fancy going around doing good deeds all the time in the belief that you will reap rewards for it.

Surely we should do good deeds for the want of the deed and nothing else.

If we do good deeds but inwardly have 'bad' thoughts are we good or bad ?

I'd be very wary of someone who can get through a single day , let alone a life time without making a negative remark or two .....

Impossible for me and im perfectly lovely n normal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im off on one now.

If someone is bloody horrible - continuously what are you going to do about it ?

Turn the other cheek ? 24/7 ? 365 ?

What happens if you retaliate?

Does Karma see you and slap your ass ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

While im at it .....

If you steal someone's stuff all the time. Anyone's , everyone's ......

Does Karma get you back ?

Isn't ownership theft ?

Take the rule of ownership and depriving an owner away - does Karma adjust itself ?

Infidelity ..... does karma punish it or allow it ? Hmmmmmmm

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By *uro anchorMan
over a year ago

Coventry

"Im off on one now.

If someone is bloody horrible - continuously what are you going to do about it ?

Turn the other cheek ? 24/7 ? 365 ?

What happens if you retaliate?

Does Karma see you and slap your ass ?"

u dont have to b negative all the time..

does it get u anywhere ?..

life cant b that bad...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No one said anyone has to be negative all the time ......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Karma is cause and effect in essence..I guess....every act or motive has its corresponding effect....

Yeah I believe in it to a point..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"dont matter if u believe it or not...

is it wrong to be nice to people ?..

Gosh its never wrong... only people who aren't nice to others would make a disparaging remark surely?

Uh - Oh .....

It does matter if we believe it or not. It does matter if we never make a negative comment.

Fancy going around doing good deeds all the time in the belief that you will reap rewards for it.

Surely we should do good deeds for the want of the deed and nothing else.

If we do good deeds but inwardly have 'bad' thoughts are we good or bad ?

I'd be very wary of someone who can get through a single day , let alone a life time without making a negative remark or two .....

Impossible for me and im perfectly lovely n normal. "

I don't believe in Karma as a concept I said, instead that I believe you reap what you sow throughout life. By that I did not mean only good things will happen if you do good things and vice versa re bad things. You should just expect to get back from the way you live what you put into it, in the long run good or bad. Hoping for more might leave you disappointed. If you are nasty sometimes you will get an end result which 9 times out of 10 isn't going to be favourable. You can be nice and still get a response that isn't favourable. You can be horrible and find your attitude treated in a nice manner, which pulls you up now and again. For some no amount of 'pulling up' works and I think those types don't care what others think anyway.

So no it isnt wrong to be nice to people, but some people see nice behaviour as having a hidden agenda so might pour scorn on that written remark by Euro.. even if they are generally a decent person. Same as some just say the opposite for effect. So it was really a rhetorical question perhaps?

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I most certainly do.......

you get back in life what you give out.. maybe not on the same day, week, month or even year.

but it will be back.

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By *uro anchorMan
over a year ago

Coventry

"No one said anyone has to be negative all the time ...... "

but the is a few that are...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No one said anyone has to be negative all the time ......

but the is a few that are..."

I'd agree there Euro x

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By *uro anchorMan
over a year ago

Coventry

"No one said anyone has to be negative all the time ......

but the is a few that are...

I'd agree there Euro x "

oy u b careful.. ill think ur comin on to me lol xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I believe what goes round comes around.

I try and treat everyone with kindness, decency and respect, and do not wish them any ills or bad lucks.

If something unpleasant does happen to them later, I would not feel guilty about it.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

no,life is sometimes good,and sometimes shit.

there does'nt have to be,a mystical reason for everything.sorry to be so negative.

ouuuuch,bastard,just stubbed my toe,on the door.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll be careful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no,life is sometimes good,and sometimes shit.

there does'nt have to be,a mystical reason for everything.sorry to be so negative.

ouuuuch,bastard,just stubbed my toe,on the door.

You're not negative. Sounds balanced to me.

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By *uro anchorMan
over a year ago

Coventry

"I'll be careful."

lol x

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I don't know if i believe in karma as such... but I do believe that in the end good things will happen to good people....

and I was always taught to be good to people on the way up, because they look after you on the way back down.....

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By *ig badMan
over a year ago

Up North :-)

Hell yes i am a big advocate of Karma. If your ok with someone it is mirrored back. But if your a twat hell rains down on you and justifiably so in most cases. The saying you reap what you sow is very apt i find.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

I like Chameleons i do

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By *ornyandnymphoCouple
over a year ago

poole

"I like Chameleons i do

Would you like to come back to my place and see my chameleons

Honest I have a chameleon.

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