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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Like modern life is designed to entrap you into the system and keep you from doing anything for yourself. I feel like fab is a small way to break away from the norm

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

I think it can do that but it is possible to not be in that 'trap'

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

No, everyone is free to start with. People set their own restraints and only they can set themselves free..... It takes courage, some do and flourish

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"No, everyone is free to start with. People set their own restraints and only they can set themselves free..... It takes courage, some do and flourish"

I like your thinking

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Good luck in your quest

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London


"Like modern life is designed to entrap you into the system and keep you from doing anything for yourself. I feel like fab is a small way to break away from the norm "

I think if you think fab is a break from the norm, it's a little sad. Its very normal, and nothing too 'out there' at all, just another way of keeping people in their place ... trapped in the system. The only way to fight the system is from within ... or as they used to say, ' the revolution begins in your own heart'. To me, some of this world is akin to watching the soaps or reading celeb magazines, a way to divert people from thinking about the real things that can make a difference. Now, what's for dinner?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Like modern life is designed to entrap you into the system and keep you from doing anything for yourself. I feel like fab is a small way to break away from the norm

I think if you think fab is a break from the norm, it's a little sad. Its very normal, and nothing too 'out there' at all, just another way of keeping people in their place ... trapped in the system. The only way to fight the system is from within ... or as they used to say, ' the revolution begins in your own heart'. To me, some of this world is akin to watching the soaps or reading celeb magazines, a way to divert people from thinking about the real things that can make a difference. Now, what's for dinner?"

For many of us fab is a break away from the norm. It isn't part of my everyday life. I'm not sure why you would see that as sad?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

It's easier to do your own thing when you're alone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel trapped. I'd love to get a decked out van/camper and travel, I just need the start up funds

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It's easier to do your own thing when you're alone. "

In deed

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I feel trapped. I'd love to get a decked out van/camper and travel, I just need the start up funds"

Like your thinking

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London


"Like modern life is designed to entrap you into the system and keep you from doing anything for yourself. I feel like fab is a small way to break away from the norm

I think if you think fab is a break from the norm, it's a little sad. Its very normal, and nothing too 'out there' at all, just another way of keeping people in their place ... trapped in the system. The only way to fight the system is from within ... or as they used to say, ' the revolution begins in your own heart'. To me, some of this world is akin to watching the soaps or reading celeb magazines, a way to divert people from thinking about the real things that can make a difference. Now, what's for dinner?

For many of us fab is a break away from the norm. It isn't part of my everyday life. I'm not sure why you would see that as sad?"

Surely there are other ways of breaking away from the norm? Plus I actually think its quite mainstream, certainly swinging has become so compared to ten years ago or so .... it's certainly not part of our daily life, even though we met on here, thankfully every other part of our relationship and lives together has become more important. I think the point I was making was also more related to the OP .... if fab is a way of escaping from the entrapment of the system, I don't think it is, I think it is one of the many ways to keep people happy with their lot ....

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Like modern life is designed to entrap you into the system and keep you from doing anything for yourself. I feel like fab is a small way to break away from the norm "

It's easy to get on the treadmill and hard to get off especially if you have people who depend on you.

Fab is certainly one way to step off briefly

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Like modern life is designed to entrap you into the system and keep you from doing anything for yourself. I feel like fab is a small way to break away from the norm

I think if you think fab is a break from the norm, it's a little sad. Its very normal, and nothing too 'out there' at all, just another way of keeping people in their place ... trapped in the system. The only way to fight the system is from within ... or as they used to say, ' the revolution begins in your own heart'. To me, some of this world is akin to watching the soaps or reading celeb magazines, a way to divert people from thinking about the real things that can make a difference. Now, what's for dinner?

For many of us fab is a break away from the norm. It isn't part of my everyday life. I'm not sure why you would see that as sad?

Surely there are other ways of breaking away from the norm? Plus I actually think its quite mainstream, certainly swinging has become so compared to ten years ago or so .... it's certainly not part of our daily life, even though we met on here, thankfully every other part of our relationship and lives together has become more important. I think the point I was making was also more related to the OP .... if fab is a way of escaping from the entrapment of the system, I don't think it is, I think it is one of the many ways to keep people happy with their lot .... "

Are you saying that swinging is a form of social control?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I'm quite new to fab, so maybe that's why it seems that way. I guess it depends on your perspective like most things

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Like modern life is designed to entrap you into the system and keep you from doing anything for yourself. I feel like fab is a small way to break away from the norm

I think if you think fab is a break from the norm, it's a little sad. Its very normal, and nothing too 'out there' at all, just another way of keeping people in their place ... trapped in the system. The only way to fight the system is from within ... or as they used to say, ' the revolution begins in your own heart'. To me, some of this world is akin to watching the soaps or reading celeb magazines, a way to divert people from thinking about the real things that can make a difference. Now, what's for dinner?

For many of us fab is a break away from the norm. It isn't part of my everyday life. I'm not sure why you would see that as sad?

Surely there are other ways of breaking away from the norm? Plus I actually think its quite mainstream, certainly swinging has become so compared to ten years ago or so .... it's certainly not part of our daily life, even though we met on here, thankfully every other part of our relationship and lives together has become more important. I think the point I was making was also more related to the OP .... if fab is a way of escaping from the entrapment of the system, I don't think it is, I think it is one of the many ways to keep people happy with their lot .... "

Of course there are other ways but i don't see what is sad about seeing fab as a bit of escapism. When i meet someone from here i don't have to think about work, or what homework needs to be done by which child, or what's for dinner etc etc.....I'm not sure who has meant to have created this to keep me happy with my lot? I don't understand the argument.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London

Deviation within societal norms is not really deviation. It's a bit like the only way some people can cope with the mundane-ness of everyday reality for some people. Anything anyone uses for those purposes is sad, I think ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Like modern life is designed to entrap you into the system and keep you from doing anything for yourself. "

Nope.

Technology and modern travel gives you access to anywhere and everything.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Deviation within societal norms is not really deviation. It's a bit like the only way some people can cope with the mundane-ness of everyday reality for some people. Anything anyone uses for those purposes is sad, I think ..."

So anyone who does anything to enhance their existence is sad?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Deviation within societal norms is not really deviation. It's a bit like the only way some people can cope with the mundane-ness of everyday reality for some people. Anything anyone uses for those purposes is sad, I think ..."

Does society consider swinging the norm? In my opinion it doesn't.

I also don't consider people finding ways to make life less mundane sad.

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By *awandOrderCouple
over a year ago

SW London


"Deviation within societal norms is not really deviation. It's a bit like the only way some people can cope with the mundane-ness of everyday reality for some people. Anything anyone uses for those purposes is sad, I think ...

So anyone who does anything to enhance their existence is sad?"

I am sure there are more positive and productive ways to enhance one's existence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Deviation within societal norms is not really deviation. It's a bit like the only way some people can cope with the mundane-ness of everyday reality for some people. Anything anyone uses for those purposes is sad, I think ...

So anyone who does anything to enhance their existence is sad?

I am sure there are more positive and productive ways to enhance one's existence"

Of course there are but why shouldn't swinging be one of them? If it isn't to enhance then why would anyone do it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is no trap so deadly as the trap you set for yourself.

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Raymond Chandler, The Long Goodbye

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not really, I've just set my life up so that's it's mostly how I want it. You don't have to rail against "the system" - if there's an aspect of the way you live that you really don't like, it's usually in your power to change it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I don't think I quite meant personally, I think some aspects have due to the influences of others. I think this seems to be the attempt of the higher powers on society in general

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not really, I've just set my life up so that's it's mostly how I want it. You don't have to rail against "the system" - if there's an aspect of the way you live that you really don't like, it's usually in your power to change it."

That's how I feel.

There's plenty of reasons to get pissed off about stuff. Seemingly that's where many people stop.

But there's so much that you can do when you are determined and take control. You can't change everything, but you can make changes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My life isn't mundane to me. I use Fab because I like sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, everyone is free to start with. People set their own restraints and only they can set themselves free..... It takes courage, some do and flourish"

Spinoza argued that there's no such thing as free will, and that we're all part of a whole that operates according to its nature. It was a strong argument. Check it out.

Anyways.. Going back to OP's point.... Yes, in a way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, everyone is free to start with. People set their own restraints and only they can set themselves free..... It takes courage, some do and flourish"

Very profound.. For fab!! :_)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My life isn't mundane to me. I use Fab because I like sex"

Just for the record i don't feel I'm entrapped by the system and i don't have a mundane life....i just don't think anyone using fab as a bit of escapism from the norm is sad. And the bit of society i live in certainly doesn't consider swinging the norm!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not 100% sure I totally get the OP but I feel that modern life actually gives you more tools to break free from the day to day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not 100% sure I totally get the OP but I feel that modern life actually gives you more tools to break free from the day to day."

I gotta agree this site does exactly that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Like modern life is designed to entrap you into the system and keep you from doing anything for yourself. I feel like fab is a small way to break away from the norm "

No.

I just go my own way- never fitted in or toed the party line x

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I think there are many aspects of life today that can sweep you along. Humans are social tribal animals and we go along with others, the social norms are somewhat too compelling.

I always remain focused on what my objectives are - the bigger ones as well as the smaller. If my lifestyle doesn't fit those, then I break away. My health and relationships are the key priorities for me. It's easy for those to suffer, if we don't care for ourselves that well.

I've had success and financial wellbeing and could earn and work more. I'd sooner give up some time and care for people who have just a short time to live. And to focus upon what's important to me.

I'm not a Paleo diet supporter but I do admire the qualities that some earlier generations had. We can have the same or something different, if we just put our minds to it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I feel trapped. I'd love to get a decked out van/camper and travel, I just need the start up funds"

this is one of my intentions . I had put curtains in my mpv . Sletp out in it once and it was boltic . Like really f'in boltic . Being a mechanic id find work no problem where ever i park it . And be able to keep my car on the road

but if only i had the funds and a nice curvy ladie to help keep me warm :-/

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Modern life tells us all how we should live . How we should judge . What a person is expected to look like .

Thats the sad fact .

I see the forums as an escape .

I like to think of you all as a friendly bunch . Sure we have all had our disagreements on certain things. But thats life .

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I'm free to do what I want any old time

www.youtube.com/watch?v=38j7p5WWNV0

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it encourages independence on authority yeah. With it's slogans that mean nothing, in real words, but they do mean do what we want.

The internet not being censored is one way that we can get away from all that though, where they've lost control a little.

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